Oh No! Everything Is Wrogn AGAIN!!!

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** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
Simon faces his nemesis again tonight with another Wrogn sudoku - this time from Lerroyy. A Wrogn puzzle is one in which all the rules are the opposite to normal - which is, frankly, terrifying. This is (yet) another example of setters demonstrating the total genius when it comes to these sudoku variants. Give it a try at the link below:
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Normal sudoku rules apply. Digits separated by a white dot cannot be consecutive. Digits separated by black dot cannot have a 1:2 ratio. Digits separated by X may not sum to 10. Digits separated by V may not sum to 5. Digits in a cage may not sum to the small clue in the top left corner of the cage. Digits along a red line may not form a palindrome. Digits in a yellow “max” cell must be smaller than ALL the orthogonally adjacent cells. Digits in an orange “min” cell must be bigger than ALL the orthogonally adjacent cells. Digits in a circle cannot ALL appear in the surrounding cells and no digit in the 4 surrounding cells can repeat. Along each grey thermometer is a bulb (it is NOT the current one and has to be found); digits must increase from that bulb to the extremities and may not repeat. Digits along a purple line may not repeat and must not form a set of consecutive digits. Clues outside the grid must not give the sum of the digits along the indicated diagonal. A cell with a blue square must not contain an even digit.
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@armada648 2 года назад

Hey, it's Lerroyy. Thank you so much for having me featured a second time on the channel! Really happy to see that you enjoyed the puzzle, and hope that everybody who does it will too!

@CrackingTheCryptic 2 года назад

Amazing, amazing puzzle Lerroyy. I hope everyone who enjoyed it drops a comment below because you deserve all sorts of plaudits for this one :) Just to reply to a couple of the Q&A questions that got cut off when the chat ended: Francesco: Will you ever solve a puzzle together, like that video when Mark was solving a puzzle and Simon popped up outta nowhere? Simon: Maybe. If we ever did a public meet-and-greet we might. JohnPaul: Have you ever been approached in public by a subscriber? Simon: I haven't but Mark has been (3 times I think!) Willem: Which ruleset do you most fear? Simon: This one!! Wrogn puzzles are very daunting. Woss: I think you mentioned on a really old video someone (i think mr snyder?) once told you a quick way to check you've got the right solution... any chance of sharing it one day? Simon: Wow this is going back a bit. Thomas Snyder used to be able to do a sort of global scan where he would ring the digits in each box with his eyes and would say that repeats would flash. But his is a very special brain. (I certainly believe that this sort of thing is possible for mortals with Spot The Difference puzzles. ie you stare at one image for about 20 seconds without blinking and then quickly close your eyes and look at the second image - the differences are supposed to flash red for an instance!

@Sursda 2 года назад

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@Sursda 2 года назад

@@CrackingTheCryptic же Ююнцюдюцкцюжжюжцюехцюхецжюкюхююжнеюою

@miran248 2 года назад

@@Sursda Looks like someone had a small stroke :)

@groovinhooves 2 года назад

Take it as a compliment, friend, when I say you are most definitely wrogn in the head - thanks for a great puzzle.

@SnowTheJamMan 2 года назад

I wouldn't be surprised if soon one of these puzzles will go "Normal Sudoku rules may or may not apply and it's up to the solver to figure out"

@piarittersporn 2 года назад

👍😂🤣

@tanitabaumgartner2089 2 года назад

I'd love to see Simon solve a puzzle with this kind of ruleset and see him suffer (:

@EntirelyPointlessContent 2 года назад

There's been one featured which has three instances of each constraint and two are a lie and one is the truth. That one was truly horrifying!

@davidlefevre7 2 года назад

I've been chatting with a setter and they said they were preparing a puzzle that goes somewhat " some rules apply, find them"

@leojs5673 2 года назад

ever since that puzzle with actual schrodinger cells, I’ve doubted nothing to be possible

@SweDennis 2 года назад

"Aaaah, you rottten things, I've just seen the title of this ... nononono ..." My heart went out to Simon as I brought out the popcorn ...

@anjaschneider5904 2 года назад

Well, at least normal Sudoku rules apply!

@2beinteresting 2 года назад

How many popcorn did you make? ;)

@r3ckl3ss66 2 года назад

Normal sudoku is Simon’s downfall. He will blow through the other rules

@gingermlg 2 года назад

"This 9 clue becomes correct; and that's not right!" I love these Wrogn puzzles!

@milla_5028 2 года назад

Simon's reaction when he first read the title of the puzzle. 😂

@reubenmckay 2 года назад

Simon's dispair at seeing the title was brilliant. 🤣Great solve as always, Simon.

@rayclayton4786 2 года назад

Having just had a cataclysmic and unfortunately adversarial family meal with the in laws, this was just the catharsis my wife and I needed! Thank you CtC

@RADZIO895 2 года назад

Cool idea for some talented setter: A wrogn puzzle that can also be solved with correct rules (so basically 2 puzzles with the same grid, but "opposite" rules)

@reubenmckay 2 года назад

I would LOVE a puzzle like that!

@Alex_Meadows Год назад

If you haven't already, check out yesterday's "Simon & Mark combined" puzzle!

@RADZIO895 Год назад

@@Alex_Meadows ohh I skipped that one because it's long but if it's like what I described I'll definitely check it out

@EnderW33 2 года назад

Simon I guarantee that there isn’t a single person watching these thinking “well he’s solved 90% of this puzzle better than 99% of the viewers. But because he’s tripped up for 30 seconds near the end…well clearly this man is a nincompoop!” That’s just wrogn thinking.

@R.a.t.t.y 2 года назад

You could have started with the 11 clue that’s outside of the box. This immediately tells you that the three cells it points to are not 0, -1 and 12. Simples.

@ofirnadel 2 года назад

"no something sherlock" good job keeping the channel family friendly lol

@stevesebzda570 2 года назад

Lol 😂😎☕

@milla_5028 2 года назад

I first thought Simon meant "Know something, Sherlock" and asked myself "Know what?" 🤔. I then thought of my daughters Godmother who loves using the frase "No (Insert the non-family friendly word here), Sherlock" and was like 💡 "Ohhhhhh....". 😄

@stevesebzda570 2 года назад

Oh, Simon, just say, "NO BOBBINS, SHERLOCK.!?" [Or spell it like I do and just say, "No shyt, Sherlock.." in a friendly way - - you're saying it vocally though -- but the kids are prob used to it ] Say BOBBINS though lol 😂😎☕

@inspiringsand123 2 года назад

Rules: 04:32 Let's Get Cracking: 09:00 Simon's time: 1h13m09s Puzzle Solved: 1:22:09 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Three In the Corner: 2x (1:03:33, 1:03:37) You Rotten Thing: 2x (03:07, 08:57) Bobbins: 1x (22:42) Chocolate Teapot: 1x (06:16) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 27x (10:37, 16:43, 16:47, 19:42, 21:28, 22:38, 25:27, 25:59, 25:59, 28:02, 28:44, 28:49, 33:45, 33:45, 41:22, 41:22, 42:28, 48:11, 48:11, 53:36, 1:01:33, 1:07:33, 1:07:33, 1:08:33, 1:12:04, 1:16:35, 1:21:45) Beautiful: 11x (16:50, 16:52, 18:16, 43:17, 43:52, 52:59, 57:09, 1:06:33, 1:09:47, 1:12:25, 1:15:16) Pencil Mark/mark: 11x (09:32, 10:37, 17:44, 21:57, 34:07, 40:15, 45:47, 1:13:05, 1:14:05, 1:17:39, 1:18:22) By Sudoku: 9x (25:49, 34:43, 41:01, 1:00:59, 1:03:11, 1:08:04, 1:08:44, 1:15:09, 1:21:31) Wow: 9x (08:13, 30:37, 35:49, 43:17, 43:17, 1:00:10, 1:00:10, 1:00:10, 1:04:36) Useless: 8x (08:29, 11:48, 23:53, 24:39, 27:29, 27:45, 36:20, 1:07:21) Hang On: 8x (05:03, 07:14, 09:50, 14:03, 19:20, 22:57, 30:18, 36:55) The Answer is: 7x (17:18, 20:48, 37:40, 40:57, 1:11:19, 1:12:08, 1:15:04) Wrogn: 7x (03:19, 04:00, 04:06, 04:19, 06:59, 18:09, 1:22:09) Bother: 6x (1:01:24, 1:02:00, 1:02:00, 1:02:00, 1:02:00, 1:02:00) Obviously: 6x (01:29, 16:07, 17:35, 23:49, 29:17, 37:47) What on Earth: 5x (09:10, 10:58, 47:13, 58:43, 1:09:39) Goodness: 5x (36:20, 53:07, 1:04:43, 1:20:42, 1:20:49) In Fact: 5x (02:53, 11:55, 17:41, 24:31, 35:15) Sorry: 4x (46:59, 57:45, 1:16:36, 1:16:37) Clever: 4x (03:30, 03:33, 53:07, 1:07:51) Lovely: 4x (29:29, 29:31, 1:00:44, 1:11:26) Surely: 4x (20:48, 24:37, 38:08, 54:56) Ridiculous: 3x (1:22:14, 1:22:17, 1:22:17) What Does This Mean?: 3x (26:22, 51:05, 54:52) Good Grief: 2x (38:56, 43:14) I Have no Clue: 2x (16:26, 39:48) Stuck: 2x (1:17:14, 1:17:19) Deadly Pattern: 2x (1:21:45, 1:21:51) That's Huge: 2x (16:49, 56:39) Naked Single: 1x (1:00:31) Brilliant: 1x (01:19) Extraordinary: 1x (03:51) Take a Bow: 1x (1:22:14) Our old Friend Sudoku: 1x (1:15:28) Epiphany: 1x (39:08) Magnificent: 1x (00:23) Puzzling: 1x (00:31) Disappointing: 1x (49:22) Losing my Army: 1x (1:01:06) Baffling: 1x (04:27) That is Sick: 1x (43:49) Cake!: 1x (01:22) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Ten, Seventeen (6 mentions) Six (130 mentions) Black (15 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (3) - Low (3) Even (10) - Odd (4) Lower (13) - Higher (9) Highest (3) - Lowest (0) Outside (2) - Inside (0) Black (15) - White (13) Row (11) - Column (11) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!

@cleanse 2 года назад

List of all possible simarkisms? (or github)

@th.nd.r 2 года назад

“And that means” or “and that means that”?

@th.nd.r 2 года назад

“Argue that”?

@pieup2170 2 года назад

missed ah in 1:17:10 and 1:19:48

@leickrobinson5186 2 года назад

I love these live streams where we *don’t* know how long it’s going to take! :-D

@EntirelyPointlessContent 2 года назад

I'd really love to see a wrogn puzzle that somehow incorporated chess rules where knights also move wrogn and only through certain boxes / shaded regions where wrogn becomes right

@G1ngey 2 года назад

just wanted to leave a comment. You've earned another subscription from me. I started watching you a few months ago and started trying sudoku after never really being able to complete them. I learnt how to solve them, moved on to killer sudoku's and am getting pretty good at solving them, mostly thanks to watching you and learning from you. Now I couldn't fathom solving the sorts of puzzles you do, maybe one day. Thank you very much. Keep up the puzzling.

@markbennet9058 2 года назад

"There is ... " at 1.09 with the pause made me want to say " ... a house in New Orleans" ... which probably shows my age.

@CrackingTheCryptic 2 года назад

Oh, that is magnificent :)

@markp7262 2 года назад

"... they call the Rising Sun..." (Guess I'm joining you in the "show my age" club 🤪)

@PauxloE 2 года назад

The anti-kropkis with the thermos are surprisingly powerful.

@artiomboyko 2 года назад

I tuned in an hour into the stream and I'm swear this is the scariest thing I have seen on my screen

@penningmeestercgkdelft9159 2 года назад

Yeah, a wrogn puzzle again! Great :-) In fact, I believe that immediately after the first 89 pair is found in box 8, it is possible already to pencilmark a 9 in r6c5-r6c6, and hence an 8 in r4c5-r4c6. This is because there must necessarily be a 9 on the 8-cell renban, otherwise it would be consecutive, but the 89 pair rules the 8 and 9 on the renban out of many places...

@planningkitten 2 года назад

Yeah I thought so too and actually I think you can juyt place 9 in r6c6 because r6c5 is ruled out by the orange cell since it must be bigger than all orthogonally connected cells (so it can't be next to a 9 or it had to be a 10). But as always the wrogn puzzles are always so much fun

@geoff544 2 года назад

The long renban was my first deduction - it must have a 1 and a 9.

@megacalorie 2 года назад

I've been yelling "8-9 pair" for the good 30 minutes! :D Nice anti-sudoku puzzle.

@user-vz2fj4wq7d 2 года назад

This is definitely one of the most impressive puzzles featured on the channel! Wouldn't be able to solve it myself but enjoying every moment of Simon doing it

@harmonicaveronica 2 года назад

I didn't get very far into the puzzle, but the first thing I spotted was that the renban in the middle HAS to have both a 1 and a 9 on it, otherwise you get 8 consecutive digits. I struggled to notice the white dots that force the 89 pair though

@MyriamTT 2 года назад

Wrogn puzzles are great ! Thank you !!!

@soulbound11 2 года назад

Its so interesting seeing how i get stuck in completely different areas. Understanding the point of the clues certainly helped. I was able to basicly read ahead to what the clues were supposed to do at one point, infering the eventual numbers, but i was stuck trying to find where the first tipping point was that deduced those numbers. Excellent puzzle!

@goncalofernandes6776 2 года назад

That was probably one of my favorite solves ever. Amazing job Simon :)

@leojs5673 2 года назад

Everything is wrogn and it feels so riiiight

@deerel 2 года назад

Love the Wrogn puzzles!

@SheilaMertens 2 года назад

And yet again, a beautiful logical journey, such a joy to watch, and my utmost admiration for both Simon and Lerroyy. CTC just never ceases to amaze me. My heartfelt thanks, for these so joyfull moments. Love, Sheila.

@emilywilliams3237 2 года назад

I dropped in to the chat this afternoon during the Premiere just to say hello, but did not have time to stay to watch the finish. I had also missed the beginning, and did not feel that it would be very easy to understand what was going on without starting from the beginning ... so I just came back this evening to watch the whole thing. I had the chat running along the side, too, just for fun. Simon, your brain is amazing. Astonishing solve. Stupendous. *** looking for thesaurus ...*** Fascinating. Impressive. Truly, I love watching you solve these complex puzzles. I truly do learn something every time, or have things that I have been learning on this channel get more cemented into my own lesser brain. I also love your personality that shines through, and your enthusiasm and your delight. But back to the puzzle - a puzzle full of clues that largely mean the opposite of what they usually mean is very mind-blowing as a concept, and I agree, how can anyone actually think of how to set such a puzzle. But you, after chuckling about it all and remarking about how absurd everything was, got up your working gait and made a pretty steady path through the puzzle. Have I used the word "tremendous" yes? No? OK, then, it was tremendous. I found myself chuckling (or shaking my head, more likely) at people commenting in the chat about you not using sudoku - and this was before the 30 minute mark when there were not even any digits to do sudoku on. I really do think that a puzzle as complex as this one (and as complex as Mark's this evening was as well) is just not really suited to sudoku very early on - many more digits have to be discovered, or placements, at least, of pairs or triples, to actually make use of sudoku. And the clues that the constructor has provided surely mean more than basic sudoku early in a solve of a complex puzzle, right? Anyway, this was a fantastic video and a fantastic puzzle, and I do hope that it gets tons of attention for the channel and the constructor. Brilliant all around. Thank you so much, Simon, and to you and Mark for both being in the chat during the Premiere. That makes it quite special to watch a video in that format, and I am sorry that I could not have hung around longer to enjoy your actual real time presence.

@DiMono 2 года назад

I was fortunate enough to get to test this puzzle before it went live on LMD. What struck me the most about it (and the reason for the title) is how few clues are present in the grid. All the other wrogn puzzles I've seen have a tremendous amount of clues, but this one has a relatively clean grid. I'm glad it got a feature on the channel, I think it definitely deserves it.

@stevieinselby 2 года назад

Yes, although that's partly because one of the other puzzles had a load of spurious distraction clues in it, like X-sandscraper clues of 4000 or something daft, and 6-cell cages with a marked total of 3 😆

@goronhead 2 года назад

Fastest click of my life. I love following along with wrogn puzzles.

@TomHickey 2 года назад

The reaction to the puzzle title alone is worth a thumbs-up on the video, lol

@tremkl 2 года назад

Bonus Cryptic!? Wasn’t ready for that! I noticed Simon gloss over the lack of repeats on circles at the very start, and worried about when it would catch up to him. Fortunately, once you needed it, you discovered it pretty quickly. Great puzzle, great solve, great video!

@ruokothyan7658 2 года назад

what a lovely birthday gift! You made me smile on this rainy monday

@enki345 2 года назад

I usually enjoy the shorter, half-hour or so long videos on the channel more, but this puzzle was such a fun one to watch that I think this is the first over-an-hour Cracking the Cryptic video that's become one of my favourites! What brilliant work by Lerroyy and what a thrilling solve by Simon!

@warren_r 2 года назад

I finished this one in 88 minutes. I thought it would take me at least half an hour longer given how ridiculous the rules are, but there is a certain "neatness" to the solve where the rules are constantly helping you eliminate a digit here and there, thus cracking open the window to the next step. Very, very cool.

@damadclown 2 года назад

It took me 2 whole hours but I somehow managed to solve it without checking Simon's solution, I feel smart for once. These wrogn puzzles are great

@laurasmith2173 4 месяца назад

I must have missed when this came out but I love these longer solves and adore wrogn puzzles.

@domcactus 2 года назад

One of the most beautiful sudokus I've played this year. I remember enjoying the first "wrogn" puzzle quite a lot too!

@markbennet9058 2 года назад

At 43 mins - just thinking that Lerroyy has done something quite new with the "wrogn ruleset" and demonstrated an elegance which I hope will inspire others.

@oldmomj5088 2 года назад

Absolutely love this solve and the puzzle. So much fun!

@feldegast 2 года назад

Watching Simon solve a wrogn puzzle is a pure joy...seeing how his mind works is great... I love it when Simon gets each deduction...they are hard won

@TehFilmFanatic 2 года назад

Finished in 41 minutes! I had no clue where to start, but once Simon pointed out that thermos couldn't have repeats I had a eureka moment and jumped into the puzzle. I've also done the two truths and a lie puzzle, and the normal sudoku rules do NOT apply puzzle, and this is my favourite in terms of how everything just falls into place at various points

@dollarsing 2 года назад

Amazing. Loved watching you solve that !! Thank you.

@piarittersporn 2 года назад

That was absolutely crazy.... and as usual no problem for Simon. Wow! 👍

@tanitabaumgartner2089 2 года назад

I don't know if this would even be possible but how cool would it be if a Variant Sudoku Puzzle had two unique solutions - one with the normal ruleset an one with a wrogn ruleset!

@understoodish 2 года назад

I thought for sure you were going to accidentally get hung up trying to use the normal meaning of one of the rules, but I was glad you didn't. Well done. That was a really challenging puzzle!

@th.nd.r 2 года назад

Brilliantly set and brilliantly solved. This is a hall of famer for sure. Every use of every rule was so beautiful, just mind blowing. Lerroyy + Simon = magic

@IlliniRocket 2 года назад

I also got stuck because I forgot the obscure rule about not repeating the digit around the quadruple clue. I suspect Lerroyy added that rule at the very end. Glad I eventually figured it out. I'm happy that there were no throwaway clues here. Every clue had a specific purpose. Well done!

@christophstahl8169 2 года назад

This was such great fun. I love that with those wrogn clues you have no idea how they could help you until suddenly they do. Great flow to this. When i watched Simon i found myself shouting "where do 8 and 9 go in box 5!" but I stumbled at the end at the same time having to also re-read the rules. Ending the puzzle with a not so deadly pattern is always a great thing too. Loved it imensliy and I agree with Simon: It is not an easy puzzle. You never get stuck but every step has to be earned.

@HalfBakedLunatic 2 года назад

Very very cool ... congrats on a wonderful piece of artistic beauty! (both the puzzle, and the solve 🙂)

@Ashimo 2 года назад

Well done Simon! Thank you

@davidhughes7174 2 года назад

Sensational, stunning, amazing, magnificent, Super B. Words cannot express the astonishment of the simplicity and complexity of this solve and puzzle. Simple when the path is revealed. Well done Simon, you are incredible, resilient, persistent, logical. A maestro.

@TabAtkinsJr 2 года назад

As soon as Simon colors the yellow cells (at about 26:30), he could have picked up the 89 conclusion he draws at 30:00, but stronger - the yellows in box 8 are not 8 or 9 (as there's already an 89 pair in the box), so the yellows in box 5 aren't 8 or 9 either. That, plus the "wrogn min" constraint, actually gives box 5 an 89 pair, in r4c6 and r6c6!

@Adrian_Grey 2 года назад

I made a note of the quadruple clues not repeating at the start cause that stood out to me as the one rule you can't deduce just by reversing the normal rule, and sure enough, when that became useful I saw it right away.... and then chuckled as Simon went slightly mad trying to figure out how to finish.

@joelstevens5670 2 года назад

Another amazing ‘wrogn’ sudoku. The reason that puzzles like this work is because of the idea of logical information transfer: knowing for example that squares do not contain even digits tells you that they must contain odd digits. The key is to then be able to identify what is useful at each point of the solve, as with any sudoku solve. So as ridiculous as it sounds, this sudoku variant isn’t always as hard as it seems, provided you can filter the information. Really enjoyed this one, thanks Lerroyy and congratulations to Simon for conquering your nemesis (in terms of sudoku variants). ;)

@daveperry7050 2 года назад

Wonderful puzzle. Really impressed myself that I managed to solve it without recourse to the video.

@julieannmyers8714 2 года назад

Amazing! Great puzzle. Fantastic solve. 👏👏👏

@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад

What a wonderful surprise. Getting to watch the video AND chat with Simon & Mark is a treat!!!

@francescopetracca374 2 года назад

This is the video I was talking about: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qGG8cw-1Ea0.html

@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад

@@francescopetracca374 Thanks Francesco! That was before I found CTC!!! There's so much to go back and watch!

@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад

Francesco - I just watched it - that was very cool!!!

@francescopetracca374 2 года назад

Yeah, It was pretty funny 🤣

@markbennet9058 2 года назад

Loved the way the clues carried weight right till the end

@deathknight2146 2 года назад

first live stream but big fan of the videos and GAS puzzles. Keep up the great work

@ukdavepianoman 2 года назад

An incredible puzzle. How anyone can devise a puzzle with wrogn clues that follow a linear path to a solution is quite remarkable.

@darleneofthetallpines5742 2 года назад

Brilliant puzzle and brilliant solve!

@slowbiex 2 года назад

right around 8:50 that was the most loaded "right. do have a go..." I ever heard on this channel. it actually caused so much joy!

@Jukka70 2 года назад

That was such an amazing puzzle, right up to the end, a clue needed to finish off the last set of pairs. Simon is right, every time he got a number, you really did need one of the other rules to continue. I just loved watching it, what a puzzle. That's one of my favorite puzzles and solves that I've seen since starting to watch this channel

@RichSmith77 2 года назад

Did you mean it was an amazing puzzle "right to the end" or only "right up to the end", meaning the ending was a disappointment?

@Jukka70 2 года назад

@@RichSmith77 no, the ending was part of the amazement. Meaning, you had to use every clue, including the very end one to be able to finish it

@crystalgehrt8861 2 года назад

Stuck in bed sick today, this was the perfect puzzle. The most I could ask for was a puzzle that I could do, but that I could get lost in for a long time. Thanks to ctc and to Lerroyy.

@jonbrowne8334 2 года назад

This puzzle is astonishing!

@penningmeestercgkdelft9159 2 года назад

I am actually imagining that every time a wrogn clue has done its job by disambiguating something, it could actually be removed from the grid, so that eventually you end up with a normal sudoku grid, probably with a few thermos or renbans in it. In such a way, any chaotic wrogn puzzle would become visually easier over time!

@Censeo 2 года назад

To any and everyone who solved this puzzle. Hats off to you. You are all geniouses for real!

@ericpraline1302 2 года назад

Wow wee, what a beautiful path to venture down. I solved this in less than the video length which surprised me greatly. I thought I might still be looking at this the following day. Great puzzle.

@theunwelcome 2 года назад

well puzzled, Lerroyy

@bobowieland578 2 года назад

Loved the fact of the unwritten rule of no 3s in the corners, which was avoided twice.

@UnderscoreYourWorld 2 года назад

I got down to the very end and got stumped at the same point where Simon did -- the part where digits surrounding the quadruple clues can't repeat. >.< Other than that, very solid puzzle with a fun solve path.

@kevinharris9054 2 года назад

Just under 53 mins for me... Very smooth puzzle - every clue was needed, so when I found I hadn't used one the alarm bells went off and I had to back track a bit. As it turned out my logically mistake was correct (choosing which square to place the non 1:2 number in box 3 row 1), but it was satisfying to solve it 'properly'.

@jimmyh2137 2 года назад

This "wrogn" puzzles are my absolute favourite kind of puzzles, so much fun to solve them every time!

@MrFullajoy 2 года назад

Really pleased to solve this one - over two hours for me but I’ll take it. Got really stumped near the end until realising numbers couldn’t repeat around the circles…

@TheClawNinja 2 года назад

Just getting through the rules hurts my brain. This is a direct watch video for me.

@volkerysilvia 2 года назад

Funny how Simon was lumbering initially through thermos as if he'd never done one before. And then the big question "where does 8 go in box 5?" that just never occurred to him when it was well clear that 8 and 9 were what we had the most info about... Exciting puzzle, good for choking at almost any point!

@craftycurate 2 года назад

Love your videos Simon … love them more in light of your kinds words after Liverpool’s disappointment in the Champion’s League but a great season nonetheless 🤙

@crispywhiskers9365 2 года назад

i have not watched the solve yet but that liverpool segment was a pleasant surprise and as a fellow liverpool fan, i totally agree with what simon said and that virgil van dijk statement cracked me up xD

@JCassidy3383 2 года назад

Brilliant solve.

@Kradlum 2 года назад

Not often you hear Simon pleading "oh please work" 1 hour 21 minutes into a video. Well done on solving this, I think I would have ben tearing my hair out!

@triplea657aaa 2 года назад

48:56 wow that was a great puzzle. I had to take a few short breaks to reassemble my brain, but that was a fabulous time.

@jasminedavis6686 2 года назад

Absolutely stunning construction and beautiful interpretation for us lesser beings by Simon. Far more entertaining than a blockbuster movie any day, a true example of the heroes journey and a conflict with the self and the god (the constructor)

@ronjohnson6916 2 года назад

The emotional highs and lows make these tough solves worth the price of admission. "Yes, yes, yes!!!" or "Oh no!" Great solve.

@tremkl Год назад

The gods of the Algorithm seem to be of the opinion I need to take a tour de wrogn. Yesterday it suggested I rewatch the first one and today it has me enjoying this prime example again. Wonder which one it’ll have for me tomorrow!

@SabbiaVerde 2 года назад

Yesss, I love this concept 🤩

@NoobixCube 2 года назад

I've often thought Sven should add a red pencil mark feature, for negative information. Sometimes all you know is what a cell CAN'T be, and it would be easier than marking all the things it may be. Negative pencil marks would be very useful for a wrogn puzzle.

@iabervon 2 года назад

I usually solve skyscrapers and futoshiki with negative pencil marks, and too few apps expect this as an option. Of course, it's usually fine (so long as you're not trying to use more different kinds of pencil marks than the app has), but some of them try to clean up your pencil marks assuming them to be positive.

@RichSmith77 2 года назад

I sometimes use the zero to indicate the other pencilmarked digits in the cell are not standard pencilmarks. More often it's to denote a range of digits, so instead of putting 123456 I might mark it 016. But it could be a way to mark negatives, I guess. (0=nought=not 🙂)

@LookingForFrogs 2 года назад

It this was my channel and I saw those rule set I would just be like "no video today, goodbye everyone". 😃

@aere481 2 года назад

I love Wrogn puzzles! It does seem to have a very narrow solve path.

@torstenaan 2 года назад

Normally I find wrogn puzzles impossible, but this is somewhat approachable. Really well made.

@tessabrisac7423 2 года назад

Approachable? You’re kidding!

@oldmomj5088 2 года назад

This becomes an 89 pair... Hooray! Love watching you solve puzzle!

@andrewnelson2525 2 года назад

I finished this one seemingly grinding to a halt repeatedly and not seeing things as quickly as it seemed I should. It took me an hour 24 minutes. Then I went to the video and checked the length -- 1:23:16 and felt so pleased with myself.

@topilinkala1594 3 месяца назад

I would have liked this having nonesense clues like the ones before. Simon clearly noticed that every clue had to mean something and that led to him speculate and not do sudoku, which would have worked. The best moment was when he realised the 11 clue which he had not speculated at all.

@stevieinselby 2 года назад

This was definitely the easiest of the wrogn series so far ... almost doable without the video but there were just one or two points where I needed a smidgeon of inspiration. Pleased that there were some things I figured out a lot quicker than Simon! Interesting that the fortress/target and even cells were as exactly useful in this puzzle as they would be with normal rules ... I was expecting the fortress rule to be "The fortress cell cannot be higher than _all_ of its orthogonal neighbours", which is a much less useful rule!

@HunterJE 2 года назад

It does slightly bug me that this version of wrogn rules the min/max cells are simply switched, not really "wrogn" - to me true wrogn for those would only require at least one neighbors on the wrogn side of the cell. As it is it doesn't even require wrognness to work, you could just switch positions and they're just normal min/max clues.

@pascal6871 2 года назад

The name is just wrogn enough so its fair for it to be only partially wrogn

@WheatGrinding 2 года назад

1:07:07 - "And then this clue becomes correct, and that's not right!" I love that phrasing

@LithmusEarth 2 года назад

Simon is this amazing breaker-iner and he's phenomenal when I just stare at the puzzle stuck, but that doesn't mean there are not times where I find a piece before him, sometimes LONG before him, or a bit of logic he never uses, and I shout at the screen. I love watching him break through these impossible puzzles. I enjoy spotting stuff before or just as he would find it it's such a joy. Makes me feel smart for a moment. 19:30 minutes in, I'm like well those 89s have to go into box 7 so they should go into the two non thermometer spots. Also 7 on that thermometer has to go next to the 9 because 78 is consecutive. [22 minutes in he's got this.] 23:00 minutes in that means you know that the cell at R8C1 has to be (1234) because you can't reach a 5 to it, hey man in this puzzle you take 4 pencil mark cells. [He finds this out 1 Hour and 3 minutes in and 3 and 4 have already been eliminated] 26:45 The purple line must include both a 1 and a 9 on it, because if it's missing one it will have 1-8 or 2-9 which is a no-no. So... Where do you put the 9 on it? there is an 89 pair looking at column 4, same pair is looking at the box 8 so... the 9 is in one of two places row 6 column 5 or 6, and now that you have the 9 on that 89 DOT you have NOT include an 8 near it removing both the 8 and 9 out of the center box of box 5, WHICH if it has to be higher than everything else you can't place the 9 in column 5..... YOU HAVE A DIGIT I think, at least I think I just talked myself into say there is a 9 in R6C6. [31 minutes in he walks through the same logic, YES!] 34:28 that means there is an 8 in R4C6. [41:14 he finds it!] 38:49 You can also Disambiguate that because of my finding of the 8! That cell you just wrote in is a 9, the cell beneath it in box 7 is an 8 which makes the cell to it's right (C3R8) a 9. I hope he gets here soon. 46:20 The green cell cannot be 8 because it would see 89 in it's column, so the green cell in box 5 is below the 8, so you should be able to use that the to help you. Green cannot be 1, the X clue. so green is (2356) 46:58 maybe 1 is in the yellow boxes and not inside the cage at all, hmm. 48:59 He spots it, and i forgot about how 1 has to be on the line, so that puts added restriction of where it can be. 53:30 waiting for him to say, and this can't be a 7 because of the X in box 5, come on Simon! 54:18 Come on place the 6 in box 1! 59:47 so the cage is 457, in some order, man look at how much of the puzzle still has to be worked out! We still have another 20 minutes of solving! 1:01:38 and R3C1 can't be a 5 because of the 11 clue! 1:04:21 okay now we can do even more since he knocked out the 1. We can say it's an 8, with a 5 above it, and a 9 in box 2 making the cell above that an 8. [1:05:00 He's got it!] About an hour and 8 minutes in i check the live chat finally, because he talks about premiering it, and well... "spoilers" oh so funny, the chat was like, he must finish it, oh so silly. 1:16:41 no, you can't have 5s there place a 5 in the row in column 4 in the 17 cage. It's only 367 options in box 6.