Old Composer Reacts to MESHUGGAH Clockworks Drum Cam | Tomas Haake Playthrough 

No worries! Totally enjoyed your video anyway! You still had the right mendSET 😊

All good, thanks so much for reacting to it! Hope you get to more meshuggah in the future

Still loved it Geebz, you're allowed to be fallible every once in awhile. Meshuggah is in my top 3 favorite metal bands, and your reactions and breakdowns are the most fun to watch. The pain face you make when you're first digesting Tomas's drum work is always priceless! Thanks for another great video. Hope to see your reaction to Ihsahn - On the Shores (saxophone metal) one of these days. Yep, still waiting, and I'm still here!

Personally, one of my favorite ones Geebz.

Tomas twisted your ear and mind? Mission accomplished! Keep up the great work!

But the band? Do they bob their head together?

You could not be anymore right on 🤟🤟🤟

Is it law for this comment to be on every Meshuggah video

Plus it looks like youre in a live action stage play of Doom bc of the light show lol

@@deo44x yes

So true!

Indeed. No one sounds like them.

Yeah, they truly are. Destroy Erase Improve came 95. They really are on a diffirent level.

This

Best comment i got : swizerland has their clockworks. Swedens answer is Meshuggah

Funny you should say that 'cause that's how this guy in a doc I saw a few years ago described their sound. Like free form jazz. Phenomenal.

@wakenbaker-uk They are such a f'n awesome band. Jazzy they are. Indeed.

That's an accurate description.

They are very Alan Holdsworthy and he did take a lot of his inspiration from woodwind.

It's mechanical and really quite chilling -- it reminds me in parts of Alan Holdsworth with the legato passages, but to my ears is trying to convey the idea of 'evil machinery' which is very different from the kinda thing Alan Holdsworth went for.

"Where's one?"

As its written in 4/4, there is an one - its just not what you think it is

@@intergalacticspacecanoe4659 ur fun at parties

It's just four on the floor. But the floor is made of bees and lava.

@@intergalacticspacecanoe4659 yep. Don't they use Cubase to write their stuff...programming the drum part and laying guitars and vocals over it? And when it's written Haake works out the live drum part from it. And then they utilise the Cubase arrangement as a click to play along with and send MIDI programme change messages to set the guitar amp sounds for each song at live shows?

I remember every show I've been to while high on weed or tripping balls on LSD or mushrooms. extremely memorable.

@@whatsappscambot1802 Everytime I’ve done acid I’ve watched the dragon ball super broly movie. I don’t care what anyone says, watching that while tripping is the most stimulating experience you can provide yourself. Lmao.

Bar-none...THE BEST light guy on the planet. I saw Mesh play outdoors in the evening on that tour, so I was completely robbed of what those lights were meant to show. Damn shame. Plus the low-end was properly missing. You don’t appreciate those elements until they’re taken from you!

@@dalynbratcher9888 I just added that to my watch later list.

Trust me, psychedelic drugs do not incur memory loss lol; it's like the opposite of that

dude is straight tweekin'.

I'm laughing but I wouldn't be surprised if a cup of that is equal to a couple lines of white.

lol wuttt

Buggah Meshuggah

No wonder it's $22/lb!

lmao

🤙🤟🤘👍👏🤜🤛🥳

I love it cause we can see he really dives in & is a true music connoisseur. Gotta respect it🤙

Hahahahahahhaha

Including the collective ghosts of all the drummers who attempted this song.

@@Juel92 lol boom

Amen brother

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YwrSvpjdK-w.html

Yogev's channel is absolutely awesome!

I'm simple man. See yogev gabay in comments press like.

his videos are great

I think the fact it's on 4, like most of their other tracks, is what keeps them from sounding like a prog rock band. There is always that simple hidden element that is so easy to latch onto and enjoy even when on the surface it seems like absolute chaos.

tigran hamasyan

I was gonna say isn't this just 4/4? lol

@@OldSolar373 i think all of their songs are actually they just break it as much as they can

Animals as Leaders

@@OldSolar373 it absolutely is 4/4, but the divisions are just a big bunch of 2´s and 3´s . Gabays breakdown is authoritative on this, have a look ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YwrSvpjdK-w.html . imo, i think this guy knows what hes talking about, heres him playing venetian snares; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9DhCitL4-V4.html

@derp derpin It’s cool considering they apparently don’t try writing in odd meters as much as it seems. The drums tend to be in 4/4 and the odd meter feel comes from the guitar and bass messing around with a lot of syncopation and polyrhythm that makes everything feel off. Really creative way of composing and still blows my mind how they’ve been able to create so much for so long with this method while consistently keeping things fresh and interesting.

Ist that the caffeine molecule in your pfp?

@@jbasti227 Usually the kick drum, locked in with the guitars and bass are all playing an odd pattern while the hi hats or crash cymbal and snare play a 4/4. Or sometimes it's the ride/bell or china or even a floor tom for like "jungle" beats keeping a constant 1/4 or 1/8th note pulse with the snare hitting on the 2 and 4 but with an odd meter, maybe a 7/8 being played by the guitars, bass, and kick drum underneath. They play it a certain number of measures so that the odd pattern cycles through and the "1s" land back in sync to complete the section of the song. You can do math to figure out how many cycles of the odd pattern happen over the 4/4 cymbal/snare pattern before resolving and the "1s" lining back up, what's cool is that the effect these polyrhythms have when played together correctly makes something that sounds awesome too, it's not just like a bunch of random numbers of notes or like they just picked a time signature to play to like, say they did it such and such time sig or something. They do not sacrifice the natural feel and groove and awesome sound, like it has to sound good or they wouldn't do it. Like I said in another comment, the guitar solo section of this song(Clockworks) always makes me want to dance or move, or mosh and beat the shit out of someone, it's such a hard assed groove.

@@skippityblippity8656 Nope, guess again.

Thats funny, the vocalist was my big stumbling block to 'get into' meshuggah. His purpose is more of a rhythmic machine than anything else, much like the whole band really. I kept trying to make it something it wasn't for a long time.

Im binging meshuggah videos at 2am hahaha ugh i need to go to bed

Right there with you buddy

RIP Holdsworth. Influenced Cynic, Obscura, Meshuggah, and many others.

@@lashedandscorned Yeah you can really hear it in Paul Masvidal's playing.

@@o-REDBEARD-o Yes, even more evident on his solo Sol Niger Within. Are you familiar with Morgan Ågren who's the drummer and producer of that album? Hake is doing the voice parts 😊 A bit odd if Thordendahl grew up frequently meeting Holdsworth since he grew up far north in Sweden.

Check out Rob Guz. He has really carried the Holdsworth torch. Morgan even played drums on his most recent release.

@@o-REDBEARD-o as a huge meshuggah fan since 93 I've never heard of this. any source?

Fun fact, the original lights guy is Tomas brother

@@TheCrazyCanuck420 didn’t know that, that’s rad!

Yes....this. The video where they perform the album title track (in Sweden, I think) is epic beyond words. The light guy ‘is’ a band member. I saw Mesh in Va Beach on this tour, and sadly they played in an amphitheater at sunset. Couldn’t see any of the lights. Even the low-end (~30-60hz) was gone. They still destroyed nuns though.

Edvard Hansson is his name

@@TheCrazyCanuck420 thr usual staff. You must know someone inside.

Futile Bread Machine??

Dancers to a Discordant System! obZen is brilliant, but that song, Bleed, Pravus, and Combustion stand out. D2aDS is just ridiculous, and so underrated IMO (most people focus on Bleed)

Future Breed Machine is fucking historic, incredible song

Future Breed Machine is one of the strangest songs I have ever heard but I love it so much

Nothing from Chasophere? How about Corridor of Chameleons?

That part of the song is the official “it’s time to put up some big numbers” song at my gym

@@ObeseChess same!

Dude yes! I had no idea what I was watching at that time.

What a show that would have been to be at

I saw them headline on the Nothing tour right around that time, Strapping Young Lad opened for them. Yeah they were fucking sick even before they had the insane light show.

I saw that same tour !!!! 👍👍👍👍

​@@grizzlywhiskeromg what a gig that would have been!

S A M E but not live. the sound is not that good imo

I came here to say this. Amazing song and I'd love to see a video on this

One of the most wicked song... Ever made

Boost

One of their best songs!! Keep hitting the like bottom on the top Comment!

Miss Machine has some of my favorite drumming ever. Tomas Haake and Chris Pennie are probably two of my biggest influences playing drums.

Billy Rymer too

Lmao!

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

Have you tried Ulcerate? Mindfuckingblowing

Gojira 🤘

Pretty much lol. I think I’ve heard Bill Burr say that and it’s funny how accurate it is.

@@jbasti227 100% they're on my list of bands to see when this Covid-19 shit is done and over. Never got the chance. Luckily I managed to see Devin Townsend before all this shit hit. But that was literally a year ago tomorrow. God I miss shows.

That sums it perfectly!

You can tell a lot about a person by which Meshuggah rhythm they headbang to. lol

Messuggah *IS* my coffee

1 lumps or 2?

April 1st!

If Haake was a ghost, he would appear in a more badass way than the prime Mike Tyson!

They straight up say they have nothing to do with djent.

@@slackerZ1 they are being humble but all the 2010s djent bands were totally inspired by meshuggah

@@adamsylvan5466 I honestly feel that the topic does them a disservice. They’ve influenced any band that’s listened to them. Misha ruined it for the rest of us. 🍤

That was his first meshuggah reaction, look it up

And by the way, it is evening time in Shanghai!

What no one talks about is the outro - he is playing the ghost notes from the snare on the intro, but out loud, two handed, on the upper and side toms. But he's managing that two-handed rhythm with one hand, and switching between the ghost and hits on that one hand in the intro...

If you have ghosts you have everything

Dude you’re everywhere !

@@skippityblippity8656 ...and I'm still here!

Fathomless catacombs is another good one too!

Thank you!!! For pointing this out! Meshuggah has always been mathematical ❤️

And yet, despite Yogev's excellent explanation, I still struggle to hear the 4/4 in this one. Like I know it is and how the riffs cycle and loop etc, but this is definitely one of the more difficult Meshuggah songs to feel it in. The accents and note lengths really throw it off-kilter to the point that I remember the riffs and whole sections and can hum them back to you like muscle memory, but if you asked me to write it down and count it out around 4, i'd be lost. This song is bananas even though it's just mostly 3s and 2s around 4/4.

@@MattMcloughlin oh definitely, can’t nail the splits for the life of me during the going of a section lmao.

@@crispinmcsticks It is quite weird to nail it down but that’s why I call them mathematical

Travolta

Yeah, they basically find every way to break 4/4 and still maintain a steady pulse. 👌🏼😁

Thank you - I appreciate that Sergio!

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