@@WilliamPetersen01 Why not? It's important to look back, even if it is sensitive to some snowflakes who probably never even experienced anything like it, but have had the shit propaganda drilled into they're heads since the womb.
My grandfather was Humphrey Hobday, the brother of the golfer (Simon Hobday) that was featured here. Had no idea he was in this video, very cool discovery!
This is how it was in the 80''s in South Africa, robbery made front line news within hours, outside of the political conflict South Africa was an extremely safe country, private gun ownership per capita also played an important part, it was very high in those days
@@DAVID1986. Because that'd require money, good education, a needed profession and Visa? Not impossible but don't go saying why people don't do what he did when not everyone has something to back them up lol
@@crimsondaoist798 You act like life in South Africa is horrible. Yeah, there's corruption and crime, but crime has decreased since Apartheid and access to electricity and basic amenities have increased significantly. The economy is heavily industrialized and quality of life and average wealth has been consistently increasing since 1994 , despite the unemployment issue. South Africa's economy is far stronger than under Apartheid and despite the shocks of the recently past decade, is still going strong and South Africa is still proverbially the giant of Southern Africa, controlling a large customs area. Jobs are a lot harder to find, but still possible to find. It's also weird seeing people complain about crime and corruption when they were completely with the worse situation under Apartheid. Corruption, Farm robberies/attacks and crime in general were far more common under Apartheid than now, yet the people who complain now supported or were quiet about those issues then. Also, it's weird seeing people who have wifi, phone data and who live in safe neighborhoods talk about crime and job loss like they're experiencing them and that no one in South Africa can find jobs anymore. I mean tons of people from surrounding countries immigrate to South Africa for work or to start a business.
Seeing those faces and hearing those voices (especially the Golf commentator) brings back childhood memories for me. I remember how our whole family used to sit and watch the news in the evenings (and Golf, Cricket & Tennis over the week-end). And now most of those family members are not with us anymore...I miss them...
@@sonofsoweto In many ways it is different. In many ways it is the same. In many, many ways it is better and in many ways it is worse. South Africa has so much potential and so many great people. If people here learn to stand together it can be a great place.
Idiot the ZAR was not a freely traded currency then amd thus was before globalization. Jirre how did you people despite all your unfair benefits end up so stupid
I believe we can make South Africa and Africa as a whole a better and more developed continent with lower levels of poverty and stronger advancements. But in order for this to happen, we really need to sort out the issue of racism, self hatred and be willing to re educate ourselves and the future generation and the values we need to instill in our communities and society as a whole. To some this may seem like an impossible or daunting task. The truth is however, as a species we have not even begun to tap into our true potential. These are the values I will be teaching my children. Regardless of whatever backlash we may receive for pushing for positive change and rehabilitating our nations, we need to push forward with compassion and honesty and have the sense of direction that great people are made of. I am very excited about the future of our continent. Love you all, Patriots. God bless Africa 🤗🙌🙏
Well there is the problem of ethnic population general IQ levels. A group of people with an average IQ of 85 should not be in charge of a group with an average of 100.
@@erhenry20011 I believe this transcends beyond IQ alone. The system or standards that determine the integrity of governance is not sustainable if pride in ones country and ALL fellow people who live in it cannot be celebrated or appreciated. We are living in a world where division is promoted and rewarded whilst unity is strongly frowned upon. It took a pandemic to make people realize how much they depend on each other everyday. Society is based on quantum principles yet we were taught to believe it is each for themselves. For as long as we allow evil to thrive, truth will never see the day of light. The question now becomes, what is the truth and do we have the courage to be honest to ourselves enough to want to make a difference based on the truths we hold or will we accept our current reality as a norm? Thank you for your input and I hope that you are all well during these times 🙏
Immediate above - No, not necessarily. Afrikaans also has some influence from other languages. It may be almost like saying shouldn't Dutch (and maybe even Danish) be a dialect of German instead of a language of its own?
I am from Somalia and I have to admit that SA was a great country, it looked so modern and well built. Definitely the best country in Africa at that time.
*OMFGLMAOROFL* Yiiiiiiiiiiiiip - except for me, I was already planning how I'm going to avoid being seen during break while miserably knowing I'm getting polony and too much butter on my sarmie 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, I remember: Durbs had clean streets too back then, the national flower wasn't trees full of plastic bags blowing in the breeze, beaches were safe for everyone, even at night. Trans and busses ran just fine. Electricity worked every day all day, water supply didn't fail. Police were trustworthy. Walking in the bush on hikes was safe, waving hello to people as you passed their huts, stopping for a chat etc. Life was quite normal. What happened?
That's because the US was still allowing them to do some essential trading with the dollar. Despite the sanctions, which were overridden by US congress after Reagan vetoed them, Reagan (of course) didn't implement the the crux of the sanctions. It wasn't until George H.W. Bush came into power and did the full comprehensive form of the sanctions, and won't you know, South Africa became compliant.
South Africa was not truly under economic sanctions. Reagan's sanctions were a folly and products did make their way into SA at a healthy rate. Dont get me wrong the economy did better than now, but the sanctions of Bush was the straw that broke Apartheid's back. go look at 1990-94 figures
Good memories, I disagree, nothing before 94 was good. The apartheid government caused lots of suffering to the black communities. Is that what you call good old days?
@@brianmuvuti2102 Apartheid is still here. Just turned around now. Just moved to other people in revenge. Exactly the same. Only difference is that in the 80's load shedding did not exist. The Rand was nearly as strong as the dollar. People had morals back then and South Africa was a developed country. Potholes didn't exist and roads and infrastructure was properly maintained. People in charge was fully trained experts and not like today anyone taken from the streets. ANC was incompetent and broke a country that was working properly into the rubbish that it is now. Plus they applied revenge Apartheid by sacking people with proper qualifications with poorly educated people for the sake of "affirmative action". They should have started democracy without trying to revenge and keep the qualified people in their posts
Depends what colour you were I've had nothing but horrible stories from my aunt and grandmother on the other hand white people say it was the best time of thier lives
@@darlyballsman5403 im glad too that we weren't born in APARTHEID but that doesn't mean that we never experienced the aftermath... for white kids they wont know the difference and probably think that it got APARTHEID really ended in 94 but for kids my age who grew up in ghettos driving past the mansion and townships on way to beach, attending impoverished schools while seeing normal schools in movies is left with questions... its even worse when these two worlds of the white kid and the previously disadvantaged kids combined. (Similar thing happened to me) i got accepted into a white private school in which i did grade 8-11 (term 1) there. I experienced many racial jokes that i was not ready for, hatred on blacks for "stuffing up this country", heard the "K" word being used and even got into heated debates about race. Although APARTHEID ended, POST-APARTHEID has then begun
Wow, memories and more memories. The strength of our current the rand against the dollar and the pound. This was my second language and I was very good & I am still good with afrikaans. Lots of love from South Africa
Why is afrikanas being banned? I am not even from there but the level of racial disparity even after the end of apatthid seems pretty high. In Canada, both English and french are official languages and french is specifically very encouraged to be learnt. I find it hard to understand why people are fussing over a language existence!
@@nimbo9492 Afrikaans is not banned. It is one of our eleven official languages. English however enjoys to be the medium of instruction in almost all our tertiary institutions. Apart from the apartheid system of governance, the afrikaner community has led this country with distinction. It is regrettable that post 1994 most afrikaners took a backseat. The biggest curse of SA by the devil is that the world has never witnessed the best of SA working together in : governance, sport, Science and technology, disaster & hunger relief management, Christian fellowship, etc. Things are changing for the good though at a snail's pace. The church as the body of Jesus Christ will lead that unity between the two races & SA shall be a blessing unto the whole world. We request for all your prayer supports because at the moment we are our own enemies. Lots of love from South Africa
@@robindehood207 Yeah i understand. Like you said, the point is that every group throws their own perspectives on the issue. You have to experience it for yourself to truely see how leveled things are. I am not really an expert, but this is what i think.
@@robindehood207 Oh, how I wish that was true, my friend! Then I would not be wondering how I will pay the rent this month, but just live on my inherited Afrikaner fortune. Opinions like yours are outdated and as untrue as the rumours that Afrikaans is banned. Wisen up.
We elderly, I am born in the aerly 70s, remember SA as white, due to the system. As it has changed considerably that country has become less exotic. Same with 70s central Europe compared with today. Diversity sucks.
El Jona it wasn’t developed mate, they were just able to hide the undeveloped part from the world. If you clean your living room and kitchen only for everyone to see, and the bedrooms and bathrooms are dirty and full of cluster, your house isn’t exactly clean.
@@Nikolizky Don't try to be clever about things you know nothing about. South Africa was one of the top countries in the world, economic and otherwise. Minimal crime and powerhouse in Africa. All destroyed by an incompetent corrupt government that took it back to third world as that is all they know and alm they are able to do.
+94PaulyD Of course somebody would have to come along and imply that I agreed with the oppression of people just because I also like good living conditions. Why can't we have good roads and working infrastructure as well as treat everybody equally?
We need a new political party filled with new generations who knows how to get SA back in good health, one that will not look back on the past and dwell on it, ANC and DA has been dwelling for 25 years, still using racial issues to attack each other, I mean how boring could they be, EFF as well, I just can't believe 25+ yrs and still no change....yet we kept digging our own grave....
Typical!! So every black person is an ANC supporter right? You're not only stupid, but ignorant! No matter the discrimination that may exists today, the ANC government are amateurs in discrimination tactic when compared with the apartheid government...Oh by the way, the word is "incompetent" not "uncompetent" as you so wrongly wrote it.
Mark Kregel I'm not really convinced by the Democratic Alliance, especially after the Dianne Barnard saga; there seems to be underlying racism within the party....I don't really think there's party worth my vote right now; that's my opinion...what do you think?
I was going to ignore your comment and pass it off as just another angry uneducated type but it was just too good to ignore. Your first point about "that" being an excuse shows how emotional you are. It is common knowledge that during apartheid, South Africa was under international economic sanctions therefore restrictions were put on their financial transactions including their currency trade. This meant that the Rand was worth absolute shit outside the South African borders, to the point that the apartheid government abolished the financial rand exchange rate system and basically set up their own rating system which they could determine themselves how much it is was worth. So when you see the rand/dollar exchange in the 80s, just know it's total bullshit. If the Rand/Dollar exchange rate was as good as you say it was, trust you me, the apartheid regime wouldn't have ended when it did. The fact that the SA economy was worth dog shit at the time, brought about pressure to the government to begin steps to end the damn thing. When you say "you and your type fucked it up" I don't know what you mean. I'm not in the financial business so I can't tell you how I'm responsible for anything. "My type" however well you have to be a bit most specific because when you look around at all developing countries particularly commodity countries you will see that their economies/currencies are not doing well at the moment (explanation for this will take forever but fill free to do your own research). "Feel free and pull the RACE card.. YOU will never be us. YOU will NEVER get to our standards and our levels." - Well I can't help you here as this is a journey of healing that you and only you must take. Best wishes
This is where I officially tap out. Felt my blood pressure rise just reading this garbage and I ALMOST typed out the most lit response before I chose inner peace and stable mental health. Can't be out here fighting and educating a racist troll all day. So as you were... butthatsnoneofmybusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/whtie-tears.png
Pirate Gunner Here's the thing about you keyboard warrior racists that you need to bare in mind before you spew your diarrhea all over the internet under made up names... First of all, your real identity is not hidden. If we really wanted to find you, we can find you. One can obtain a subpoena for your IP address. Once that has been obtained not only will we find you but we can access all your real information. So make sure that whatever you say online, you are willing to stand by it because it could have some real world consequences when it comes to your jobs or relationships. Cheers. Have a lovely day today...
Even though our country descends further into madness, there was no moral justification for the Apartheid system - and anyone who argues otherwise, needs to examine that concept. However, what has transpired under the current leadership is absolutely shameful. Unfortunately, we were all fooled into thinking the ANC was the only legitimate liberating party, when in fact - there were others, but they did not suit the West. So here we are. Either way, I've not time in my life for black South Africans who would preach war, nor for those white South Africans who would have us believe this country was something of a paradise. It was....but for whom? Surely, with all we have learnt, with all we know from history, there has to be a better way than what we're facing now?
@@bobs7418 Hope? Just look north, there's no hope. We're not special, we'll end up like the rest of africa, poor, hungry, uneducated and dying of easily cured diseases...
@@bobs7418 lol, which god would that be, quiet few of those around. Whichever one it is it has not done much for this continent but maybe smite it. “God already left Africa,” - Lt. A.K. Waters, Tears of the Sun (2003)
@christo bosman yoh... You know as South Africans we are in this together! We dont have time for racist comments like this... APARTHEID is the reason the country is stuffed up (we are getting much better tho, but could have certainly been great). If my people were allowed an equal right to education then we wouldn't have had the problem of uneducated people being in parliament today, would we? We could have truly lived in harmony and shared each others cultures... but dont worry there is still hope ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS STOP THE RACISM AND JUST TRY AND GET ALONG WITH US (TRY AND GET INVOLVED AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT YOUR PEOPLE DID AND BLAME IT ON US)
@@jesse_n good point Jesse, I like the optimism. In the end corruption and laziness need to be fought for this country to turn around. Racist laws are gone now, if we can all figured how to systematically make sa a better place then the majority of racist people will ease up too. Stability, safety and clear relax regulation breeds successful business. Maybe the low Rand value can be used to the advantage of the standard of living just like china did. Job programs like the post office need to end too, in Western countries same day door to door delivery is possible for cheap. This makes every business function better. In south Africa packages get lost, stuck in customs and you have to be in a hot long queue to pick it up. If the anc focusses on problems like this over trying to reclaim land we might be able to turn this ship around. Peace friend :)
@@jesse_n Omg. My prayer is that all South Africans can turn into you overnight... I swear, we will be living in Utopia then! Thanks for submitting one of the only sensible comments here.
It was a country with a lot of potential... but it took a while to adapt to the new times that had come since the early 1970s. Was a opportunity lost ... Only british and afrikaners voting in '1992 referendum... and choosing ''yes'', without more working for a better transition...
@@osculim Here's data with nice colourful pictures for you my friend www.resbank.co.za/Lists/News%20and%20Publications/Attachments/7869/20170630South%20Africa%E2%80%99s%20long-term%20sovereign%20credit%20ratings%20history.pdf
Easy to say when labor was practically free, and cost of production was leveraged off of the exploitative economic policies, but hey what do black know?
@christo bosman Unfortunately what you did for your country has made your spelling bad and use of the English language atrocious. Maybe it was you who is so desperate to be tough and hanging on to your apartheid wet dream. Me and my type want this country to flourish wherein you and your type sit in your caravan park all day moaning about South Africa, her people and ideas.
Remember South Africa has a huge manufacturing and export sector, most economists agree that the optimal Rand strength is about R8.00/$1.00. Anything else is either too strong for exports or too weak for imports.
I was born in 1987 😬 I had no idea what apartheid was... my parents never spoke about it. As a “coloured” person, didn’t know what racism was. Racism is something that your family instill within you and this needs to stop. Once that has been achieved the country will be able to move forward.
@@lindiwephafudi6921 I was born in the late 70s. My dad was born in the late 30s. I can assure you the exchange rate was in fact less than R2.20 to the US Dollar. In 1981 it was around R0.79 to the US dollar. Google it
The whole comment section is ancestors of oppressors who stole this country reminiscing about the so called good old days who value the dollar vs rand rates over human rights.
Humans can be divided into 2 groups,THE ANT or the LOCUSTS the ants will work tirelessly and build and provide for the family, and community. The Locust will begin damage and destruction from the very first moment. SA has both groups 😢😢😢
@@MakateRapulana South Africa is falling to pieces. Bankrupt, corrupt, crime, looting government, failing infrastructure, bankrupt SOE's, everything collapsing.
Michima why is South Africa exempted from experiencing economic downturns? Sure corruption is an issue but where is it not an issue? Not all SOE’s are collapsing.
@@Fat89789 south Africa has been run to the grown ever since about 2000. ever since the nee government took over, insane crime, our currency is horrible, poverty everywhere. it's one of the worst the world has ever seen.
Matthew Kluyts but wasn’t the economy on the up during the 2000s? Crime has always been an issue, even during apartheid. The poverty and crime are a result of our past. And until that past is dealt with, it’ll be a problem
Do you or anyone else have a copy of a Police File episode with theme music that played on Friday night in the late 1980's. Presenter was Colin Fluxman.
Is this really 1987? To the best of my research, this is the 8 o'clock news on 12 December 1986. Source from Video: The Australian Rebel team played against EP on 12,13,14 December 1986. They lost to SA on Wed. 10 December 1986. Only thing that throws me is the Long Weekend reference. However, I think it is the long weekend associated with 16 Dec and the start of Christmas holidays in SA. Sorry for being so pedantic, but I just love this historic stuff. So thanks for the video post and if you have more, please post them all. As a side note, I had about 2 weeks before I had to report to Valhalla for Nation Service in Jan 87. :) Cheers.
Hello yes it is, the rest of the news I had to edit out because of time. There is a part where PW Botha addresses the nation and wishing them happy holidays for December 1987 and also warning South Africans against the ANC and what they are planning to do. I will upload that as well. Keep well...
@@arnoldhuman2856 because ordinary citizens have any real power in a Democratic states yeah? Nah we don't and that's the flaw with western democracy a form of corrupt leadership we wouldn't be acquainted with if your inquisitive ancestor didn't have anything to do with it,IT'S FLAWED and corrupt ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fLJBzhcSWTk.html my point is we are tired of the whining from people who never suggest tangible solutions if you are not happy then moving to Europe woun't be too hard for you,you people have ancestral visas and stuff and for the most post south africa doesn't have a bad migration reputation you can acquire a visa to any country you want
@@koketsomawela1357 If you dont like democracy, then show what your succesformula looks like. Perhaps the Western world is only a universal way to get organised. At least SA at this point sucks. I do not like you to reffer to my ancestors to give me a problem as i do not reffer to yours. Fact is that you are searching someone to blame for your problems. It always was. The Europeans showed it is possible to create enormous wealth. Now it is your turn and it looks bad. The minorities in SA are warning 10yrs for the dept trap Chinese. Only now Malema and the rest of Africa is starting blaming them for their Problems. It never stops being a black victim. Do you know what I mean. Now the next 200yrs the Chinese are bad. It seems it never stops. Also your ancestors were aggressive and mean, like everybodies. What should the Europeans do with the blacks living on welfare there?
Lived and worked there for nearly 4 years, Most EVERYONE spoke English but AFRIKAANS was the mother language. Being from Brooklyn/Staten Island I found it somehow familiar ... DUTCH EAST INDIA CO. ENTERED NYC IN 1650's and SOUTH AFRICA THE SAME TIME 1652.