On the Silk Road, between Erzurum and Agri in eastern Turkey, the Tahir pass was the most difficult part of the journey. During winter time the road was a nightmarefor the truck drivers on the way to Iran
Hello Helmut, hope you keep well. This is Ivan trucker from Italy. We are an Bulgarian enterprise,we drive from Holland England to south Iran,Pakistan/China border. Have met many Germans truckers over the last 20 years. Driving today in those areas has become really dangerous.
@@istimaro7442 hi ivan, I proudly can say that I am Austrian citizen and retired now. I drove to Teheran about 24 times in early eighties. Greetings from Austria!
@@istimaro7442 greetings from Brazil. I haul a reefer trailer through south america with a Scania R450: Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay. What kind of loads do you do?
Bir Ağrılı olarak itiraf etmeliyim ki, böyle bir geçidin olduğundan haberim yoktu. Tahirin bu kadar efsane ve zor bir yer olduğu ancak bu videolarla anladım. Bazıları belki de Tahir ve Kızıldağ geçidinden geçmemek için İstanbul-Ankara-Kayseri-Malatya-Van rotasını kullanmış. Avrupa'dan İran Afganistan ve Pakistan a kadar gitmişler. O yollarda o kadar yol gidip dönmek muthiş bir olay. İşlerini keyifle yapan insanlar zorlukları da kolayca aşar. thanks toprun for this video!!
This brings back memories of nightmares past, Would do it all again, even in the old Magirus 310, the Ford transcon 350. or my old F89. Magic days (after the event ), never could stand driving in the UK.
Planning to do this route on my Jamaha 660 Tenere motor 😏. Nice video. I use to be A truckdriver but in the nineties Istanbul was the maximum it goes for european drivers. Respect for the men doing this jurneys to get some money for the familie.
Hy Ferdy, i my remember the "Silk Road" are in better condition as yet. you see it on the old pictures. Today looks like the Road as a dead oneway road. Today she is not a pretty sight. I Love this road in the summer, but in the winter she was a Beast and real Nightmare for everyone. Thanks for your video. This time was the best on my trucker-life. best regards from Germany
que de beaux et bons souvenirs (des moins bons aussi) mais aussi quelle solidarité et quelle passion que nous avions nous les LIGNARDS je vois ces images avec une larme comment ce fait il que nous ne pouvons faire ces voyages extraordinaire (un ancien stouff puis la flèche fôrezienne de la talau.)
I remember it from 1969.Although Tahir seems to attract the publicity there were lots of other places which were much steeper and with very cambered bends and certainly no joke in the snow! Tahir was not the worst place ,in fact when we arrived there on the way out we would say "Thats the bad bits done now there is only Tahir to do !!!" petcann
I agree with you. Tahir wasn't the worst. What you remember is probably the "Kızıldağ Pass" (between Sivas and Erzincan). It was the most dangerous in winter conditions. And I guarantee it still is...
Message to Tom keir: We are a Bulgarian enterprise lately we have been driving and still to Pakistan /China border. Two of our guys have recently died. However l am Italian. Good luck my friend . Greetings from Karachi,have Now one Week rest to gather strengh.
I drove to Karachi from Liverpool England, driving a Mercedes truck in the early 1970s with a load,of machinery on board, one and only long distance job, I left the truck in Karachi and flew back home.
Those were the real heros, today conditions are much better, which i apreciate. So there is still one question from my side, i have seen so many trucks from iran in the 80s (I.R.I.T), on the road to europe trough ex-yugoslavia. Did they also use this road, is it the only one to get to iran?
Les premières images c'est pas celle d'un ancien chauffeur de chez Fiddericci son surnom Le Baroudeur Qui avait refait le Voyage avant de mourir d'une longue maladie ?
As far as i was lead to believe there was a military road around the pass but the russians would not allow it to be used as it was right next to border. Would love to do the trip again and see how it has changed to 2019 from 1975
ciao Giuseppe , la strada militare di cui parli era in territorio turco ma i russi non volevano fosse usata ? Quando sei stato nel novembre 1975 era così lenta da percorrere anche per la presenza di neve ? C' era il rischio di essere attaccati da qualche banda di predoni ? Ti ringrazio anticipatamente per eventuali tue risposte , ciao.
In November 1977 I had a ride from the Iranian border in a Turkish Volvo G89 that had taken a trailer of Danish cheese to Tehran and was returning empty to Istanbul. We went very close to the Soviet Armenian border, and the driver had me get down on the floor so the Soviet border guards in the watchtowers couldn't see me; foreigners like me were not allowed there. I wonder if that was the road you mention? He took it because it was safer in the winter, but later in the trip I helped him several times to chain his truck's tyres because the roads were so muddy. He said he preferred the older Volvos because if you hit a camel the cab would survive better than the newer trucks' cabs. Fun times!
Mi chiedo e spero che qualcuno me lo sappia dire ma come facevano a sopravvivere in cabina alla notte con le temperature che c’erano da quelle parti alla fine degli anni sessanta? Perché mi sembra che il Webasto sia venuto dopo, o no?
Hello roads are much better Now but it is more dangerus today. This is Ivan trucker from Italy line Holland England south Iran to Pakistan/China border.
+Bakos Gabor Drivers working for Hungarocamion were trained in UK road usage and correct roundabout procedure before coming over here. A very good idea, a shame more companies dont do it, UK vice versa..