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Old Town PDL Steering is Sluggish? 

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We receive a ton of questions about sluggish steering in heavy current so we made a video to explain why it happens.
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Комментарии : 52   
@jeremysoutooradventures4141
@jeremysoutooradventures4141 2 года назад
Last week I ordered the spare prop, floating prop nuts, pdl insert, pld track mount, pdl alignment spacers, 2 inch seat risers and the rudder bolt. Very fast shipping, except for the seat risers got forgotten. I called Nick and left a message, he called me back within 10 minutes, was immediately taking care of the issue and apologized. Great people and great products/business. Highly recommend thier products to everyone I know.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Risers went out in the mail a few minutes ago, sir.
@lmychajluk
@lmychajluk 2 года назад
I've had my 120 PDL out about a dozen times and never really thought the turning was an issue until the other day when I was out on a local river after some heavy rains. It wasn't 'white water', but the current was flowing, and the river was narrow in a few spots. I would get drifting, and sometimes end up sideways and it was more difficult to straighten out and get myself pointed into the current again. This was a bit hairy as I was worried about getting the poles in my crate hung up on some overhanging tree branches. I'm definitely going to order the metal rudder, though I may have to wait for the end of season / Black Friday deals... Keep up the good work!
@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator
@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator Год назад
I'll be buying 2 very soon! Haven't picked up my Salty's yet but we have a list of stuff to order from you. Thanks for making these improvement products. Mike, TX.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing Год назад
Let me know if you have any questions, Mike.
@greggjohnson547
@greggjohnson547 2 года назад
I ordered one this weekend with a few other of your products. I have a sportsman pdl 120 and have been fishing docks in the ICW lately, when the current is strong the plastic rudder just can't keep me in position. I can't wait to switch it out for the aluminum one. Thanks for everything you do!
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Thanks for ordering, Gregg.
@GunDolfOutdoors
@GunDolfOutdoors Год назад
This is EXACTLY what I need! I’ve been wondering why my pdl120 is such a pig in wind/current
@AMCFishing
@AMCFishing 2 года назад
Great content keep up the work
@A2discgolfdude
@A2discgolfdude 2 года назад
Just ordered the drive bar spacer and caps.. everything else I have ordered so far has been awesome! thank you for fixing the stuff Old Town should have thought of lol
@davidjones9259
@davidjones9259 2 года назад
Great video nick
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Thanks for watching, David.
@TampaBayDino
@TampaBayDino 2 года назад
Even after I sold my kayak and bought a boat, I STILL watch your channel Nick! That said, you are give me the "itch" to buy another yak to putt around in! 😄😄😄
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
You already know it’s addicting!
@brandondulle
@brandondulle 2 года назад
I have your rudder and bolt and I had a different problem where it lifted in the water. Idk if it was momentum or what. What happens is it naturally raised up a few inches. Instead of being a 90 degree angle its 220 degree. How I fixed it was I drilled a tiny hole into the end of my handle, and then removed one of the rudder mount controls bolts and placed an I bolt in it. Then I ran a small ball bungie from the handle to the bolt that i replaced holding down the rudder mount controls. I loop the lil bungie around after I set the rudder down and its a night and day difference! I use my kayak to lobster off the coast of Maine and have to pass thru a pretty hellish jetty to and from. No issues since I started holding it with the bungie.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
You should be able to stop the lifting issue by properly adjusting the deployment ropes.
@brandondulle
@brandondulle 2 года назад
@@NavarreKayakFishing I tried. i tied them tight, loose. no matter what i did it lifted
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
We’ve had problems with some of them lifting in the pass. Let me look into what we did to stop it.
@reelingwithryan9075
@reelingwithryan9075 2 года назад
Does the metal rudder have a greater surface area than the stock plastic one? Wondering if it'll help turning at slow speeds and turning right after being completely motionless (no current either)
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
The surface area is just about identical. Larger surface area caused issues steering while going in reverse.
@Paul-VanHorn
@Paul-VanHorn 11 месяцев назад
I'm just curious as I have a Oldtown Autopilot. The OEM rudder is great but I was wondering if that rudder is longer than the OEM? Mine is just under 21" front to back.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 11 месяцев назад
This is really only for the PDL kayaks. The AP rudder is much stronger then the PDL version.
@renelopez3810
@renelopez3810 Год назад
Hey Nick , I have a big water 132 if I get this aluminum rudder from you can I install a bixpy motor and cut it to template or do you have one that is compatible? Thanks Nick
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing Год назад
That’s a negative. The pulley on the inside of the kayak isn’t designed to lift the Bixpy.
@mrb401
@mrb401 6 дней назад
Hey Nick, any chance you will have this in stock anytime soon? I’ve got the bolt and steering knob from you. But I desperately need this rudder for my BW132 pdl bro. I’d order rn if I could. It’s a major pia as I do mostly sw with heavy currents. Oem rudder flexes, goes up, have to constantly push the rudder lever down too.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 6 дней назад
We just put them back in stock yesterday.
@mrb401
@mrb401 6 дней назад
Ohh yeahhh. Will be placing that order. TY man!
@miamiwax5504
@miamiwax5504 2 года назад
There is a dead zone when you are in the current where u just can't turn out of it sometimes. A bigger or stiffer rudder would be good but it can be dangerous too because you might overcorrect and flip especially when the current is ripping.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
The wider rudder adds more pressure to the steering assembly and causes issues in reverse. We tested it.
@benruthlessburger8905
@benruthlessburger8905 2 года назад
@@NavarreKayakFishing but works great from a stop not great in current though
@brandondulle
@brandondulle 2 года назад
I disagree I hit some major currents and while I do have to be super responsive with my steering. I can control my kayak better with it. I haul lobster pots with it off the coast of Maine and I have a pretty wild jetty I have to get past each way.
@miamiwax5504
@miamiwax5504 2 года назад
@@brandondulle When u are behind a bridge piling there is little to no current in the eddy. When u come out of the eddy the current hits u full force. If you aren't careful your rudder can overcorrect you too fast and you can flip. I was saying it can be even worse with a stiff metal rudder that has no give to it.
@brandondulle
@brandondulle 2 года назад
@@miamiwax5504 I go thru current trust me. Massive waves smashing me from behind while I try to travel home. I prefer a metal rudder. Makes me feel in control better.
@pabloalonso8061
@pabloalonso8061 2 года назад
I have the same problem with my MK106. Only in the ocean,I feel that is very hard to turn.Is that normal? My model is a 2020.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
I thought the 106MK turned pretty good for me but I need to spend more time in it before I make any decisions. I’ve only had it offshore once.
@brandondulle
@brandondulle 2 года назад
You are having the issue I had, read my comment above.
@johnbruner9684
@johnbruner9684 2 года назад
Yep the rudder on the PDL 120 Sportsman is one of my biggest complaints, overall good yak but sucky rudder.
@willr322gt
@willr322gt 2 года назад
Do you have more of them? I'm fixing to order one!
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
There are some on the website and another batch is on the way to powder coating.
@Fishin-mission1
@Fishin-mission1 2 года назад
Is the store down?
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
The store is up and running.
@Fishin-mission1
@Fishin-mission1 2 года назад
@@NavarreKayakFishing I keep getting a error content decoding failed error. May be on my side
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
We just received another order.
@Fishin-mission1
@Fishin-mission1 2 года назад
@@NavarreKayakFishing must be the browser im using. I've ordered before. Don't know what the deal is.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Email if the issues continues.
@tombosanko3085
@tombosanko3085 2 года назад
I have a pdl 106 and when I turn, I lean into the turn and I turn sharper.
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Leaning into the turn will always help. Doesn’t matter which kayak it is
@ThisTall
@ThisTall 2 года назад
I never use my 106 PDL in current, but I find it’s actually really sluggish in reverse.
@jeffpetri8177
@jeffpetri8177 2 года назад
You quit guiding?
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Let’s use the word retired. Sounds better. We did close the charter business.
@jeffpetri8177
@jeffpetri8177 2 года назад
@@NavarreKayakFishing could a guy get a private trip?
@NavarreKayakFishing
@NavarreKayakFishing 2 года назад
Unfortunately, there isn’t enough time in the day. Running the business keeps me off the water most days now.
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