The best drag races between classic muscle cars and modern muscle.Dodge Demon,Hellcat,new ZL1,69' Dodge Charger,Chevy Nova,Chevrolet Chevelle,Shely gt500,classic mustang,Camaro SS
Even though I own a 2016 Challenger scat pack , old school hot rods all the way . If it weren’t for the oldies the new cars wouldn’t be where they are today . The classic styling cues are timeless . Thanks for sharing .
Except the wiring issues that start after a few years. Plastic interiors with imitation leather.Low reliability. I can drive my 88 model across the continent and carry in a plastic shopping bag all replacement parts that would stop my car from running, be able to diagnose and fix on the side of the road. No scanner needed, No special tools. Just repair it and go. The longest repair would take an hour and a half or so only because you must drop the fuel tank to replace fuel pump. Go a few years older and the pump is just two bolts on the side of the engine. So yeah someone who has never had the pleasure of being a mechanic through the 70's 80's era would think that. 90 percent of older car repair was Alt. water pump, a/c compressor, ign. module or points, valve cover gasket leak, and a carb. rebuild now and then. There were no instrument cluster ecm, engine ecm, trans. ecm, body ecm, antilock brake ecm, climate control ecm. All of which i have had to replace at one time or another on cars less than 10 years old. So maybe not in every way.
fast nasty, that reminds me of a couple weeks back. i stop in my local convenience store and pull up beside this new camaro with the hood open and some young guy looking perplexed. he tells me he has to wait there an hour and a half for a tow as his oil pressure has bottomed out. he called the dealer and they sending out a tow which he has to wait over an hour for even though the car dealer is about 30 minutes away. car looked nice but too bulky imo to compare the the 60's era camaros. also those small blocks and big blocks were pretty bullet proof and did not need a computer to tell you what was wrong with them. so easy to work on that old iron and when you roll into a gas station in one today you will have a crowd gather around to have a closer look but not with these modern versions. i always said if i ever won the powerball i would not buy a new car but would have a stable of old rides.
Interesting to see a 50 year age difference between the new and old muscle. It's pretty amazing that half century-old machines are able to run with the brand new stuff. There really isn't that much of a difference for being 50 years apart. Imagine a 1970 model car racing something from 1920, or fifty years from now an old 2019 car racing a 2069 model, assuming such a thing will even exist a half-century from now. I was a kid 50 years ago and we would have been very disappointed how little cars in 2019 have changed compared to 1969 models. Not only do they not fly, in the case of the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro they even still have the same names and resemble their 50 year old ancestors.
No lie, I was at a stop light in my 71' Chevelle with my daughter next to a Ferrari and people were coming from a concert taking pictures and saying I have a nice ride. I was amazed just how people appreciate and respect an old school vehicle
Bro es un muscle Car Bro sea antiguo o moderno también valen Bro eso fue aquí pero si tú estuvieras en Europa los europeos te Iban era a subestimar y hacer que compitieras con el Ferrari aunque podías ganarle fácil a Ferrari Bro te apoyo
The facts are real cars guys dont knock another persons car, what ever you drive, whatever your dream cars is... Enjoy !! But if you're going to build it, dont go cheap, really build it. You dont buy horsepower and torque, you buy quality and strength and if done correctly it creates massive amounts of power.
Derick Smith .... I don't disagree. Liberals are behind pretty much everything that sucks about America. Doesn't change the fact that most of those cars were weak af for the displacement they had. Damn shame too because some of them were really good looking cars.
The modern more technologically advanced cars have an unfair advantage. They put out three or four times more horsepower stock than the older cars did stock. Even the older cars modified to the hilt have very little chance defeating the modern cars that are lighter, have better aerodynamics, and performance enhancements. What is your next video ? Teenagers running foot races against old people using walkers ?
Lol. You could say the same thing comparing 30's and 40's cars the the 60's and 70's. Isn't the whole point of muscle cars to modify and tweak the car to make it faster? Why would modern more advanced models be unfair??? Aren't they just the natural evolution of the cars???
modern muscle is NOT lighter, the new charger? 4300lbs. the old one? 3600-3800. hell the 1990s dodge neon compact car weighs the same as my big block 1970 dart.
Robert Steel I don’t like new muscle, they’re just not the same as the old, you don’t get that “feeling” standing beside a new muscle car like you do the old ones, don’t sound the same, don’t look the same, just ain’t for me
You have to be a rich kid to buy old school or new school muscle. Poor working people build high performance vehicles out of vehicles that aren't designed for it to start with. Nowadays it's usually an import or a domestic subcompact of some kind, with a manual transmission. Sometimes it's an old pickup truck. That's pretty much my assessment. Of course an early 2000s Mustang GT with the 4.6 liter V8 can be had for a reasonable price, but that's pretty much it.
Only in the 1960s. What cost $3500 in 1969 would cost $23787.04 in 2017. Plus even if you did save say $10,000 you would have had to store it for 40+ years, that isn't free either.
Bullshit old school Chevelle and monte Carlos and novas are going for 30k where we live and that's with just a stock 350 in em. Wherever you live you get em for 3k you better buy them bitches up either that or your full of shit.
The PA announcement was for ALL racers, not just those in late model cars. (But ALL the late models will have it, and probably very few of the early models, so it was probably directed at the late model drivers.) And just because there was a reminder, doesn't mean the racers NEEDED to be reminded.
I don't see any of these as being "fair competitions" as the late-models are all super-charged and probably have 10's of thousands of dollars under the hoods. I noticed a high incidence of "stalling" by the lates, a fairly dirty trick used to try & get the competitor to overheat and lose power. Not impressed by the fluff. Give me a '70 'cuda with a hemi and a bottle of nitrous, pleeze.
Impressed that late models get the horsepower to the ground without wheelstanding. Otherwise, heavy metal Malibu, Chevy 11's, Chargers, and Mustangs are so cool.
My brother had a 69 RTSE Dodge Charger and I believe it had a 440 magnum in it. It was the sweetest car I've ever drove. What I found amazing besides the awesome power was it came stock with a 160 mile per hour speedometer! As just a 16 year old in 76 I was in love! It ended up with a seized engine and he sold it to a idiot that for some ignorant reason cut it up. Now there hard to find and worth some bucks! Next time I buy a car I won't buy new, I'd rather buy a old muscle car and restore it.
There's several things to consider here. The newer ones have way more efficient engines. They are lighter but let's be real. As are as over all style and sound. The classics take the cake.
Comment King not always as you can plainly see. I like classics just as much as the next guy but cmon they're dinosaurs compared to these newer machines coming off the line. Classics are mostly just cruisers now.
Old school, these cars not only look better they sound better! I take the care with a soul any day speed is secondary! back in the day I own a nova the car would not die good car good times!!
Those old classic muscle cars are legend I was raised around trans ams and corvettes from my dad and grandpa but these new muscle cars are over 75k and are really light weight so it’s kinda easy win and with the supercharger
There were no 9, 10, 11 or 12 second "old muscle cars" back in the day. indeed, the very fastest production examples were stuck in the mid to upper 13s, despite being lightly modified per the governing rule book: www.chevelle454ls6.com/1970_chevelle_454_ls6.htm Some of the drag racing oriented magazines occasionally achieved better results, nearly always through the use of specially prepared factory "ringers" that were then further modified on site and occasionally fitted with 8" wide drag slicks. I know what happened back then because I have hundreds of magazines from that era, had a dad who was active in the performance car culture during that era and have accessed the related NHRA's records ("Stock" and "Super Stock", both of which permitted a host of mods).
love the way the old cars beat the new ones in the first few meters until the computers kick in on the new models & do their thing. Still think the old cars look the best with loads more character!
Turn off your air conditioners ? Damn I don't remember any muscle cars back in the 60's and 70's that had A/C on the track. Must be nice and quick too.
They may be telling the new car guys to turn their air conditioners off because a lot of the old muscle cars didn't even have an air conditioner but you know the new cars all come with air conditioning and these new guys don't know about that
I bought a Camaro 1969 SS after working with my dad or with his friends and the car is good looking it can pick up decent speed,good horse power and it's sold for a nice price of 600-1200$ (without fix) and about 1700-2500 (new or with a good fix) so that's just a little information if you want to buy a decent car for a good price so yeah I would 100% recommend it
looked like at this angle, he got a good holeshot on the air conditioned car...whats next?...put down your martini and put out the benson & hedges before you race?......turn off your x-box before racing?........shew!!!
An old school buddy of mine back in 1978 owned a 1962 Chevy 2 Nova with a hopped up 350 with open headers. The night he totaled it out the cop’s radared him going 162 mph
I wanna see new vs old muscle but COMPLETELY stock, with no aftermarket modifications. No modifications, except for maybe tires. There's a good video on YT with a completely stock Dodge Dart drag racing a brand new Dodge Dart, and the new Dart just killed it! I'm a fan of classic muscle cars, but they just don't compare with modern muscle as far as performance, handling, safety, reliability etc.
I enjoyed this video a lot! As you know, us men, we like our cars! Though I would expect the Newer cars to win all the time. And after watching this video, I see that is not the case. "Thanks for sharing"
Love the sound of old lumpy cams body shaking My old novas got comments at gas stations or thumbs up by another motorist felt solid when closed the door
Hellcats, Demons, ZL1s and GT500s are today's apex predator cars. If this was ever intended to be a comparison between old and new to see what is faster, where are the Chevelle LS6s, Hemi Cudas and Shelby GT500 KRs?
in2food Yes but they were stock with the enormous hood scoop and drag tires that Malibu has. Looking and having all that and running just under 14 secs is what makes it a crime IMO.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 They all ran 13.6 -14.0 back in the day. Running in the 9’s is common now. In 1970 a modified pro stock would run mid 9’s. So how is my statement bs?
50 years newer, but pound for pound, the new cars are still slower than the old ones. For what the old cars were running, the new cars should be averaging 180mph, but they don't.
Being as though the newer cars have the advantage of being lighter with more stock horsepower they should have given the older cars the advantage of having a head start!
The big thing I miss is my generation of older cars, and even getting parts for them is though to impossible. The cars from the late 1970's till 1990. I have three cars from the 1990's and getting aftermarket parts that is not a engine part is not so good. However something from the 70's is one the aftermarket market, weird. But on to the point of this competition, the cars I have from the 1991 to 1997 have the power and the tech, and one is supercharged factory 3.8 Riviera. My 1993 Pontiac Sunbird with the v-6 3.1 and 5 speed stick I bet could out do many of these if driven wisely and fast. As for the AC system concern. It is true and unwise to run it, if you are in a competition. They will drip condensation and add load to your engine. In my 1992 that had a 2.0 multi-port fuel injection and a 5 speed stick, if I wanted more power to get on the highway faster I turned off the AC. One problem with some modern cars on a hot day the heat sensor might not come on early enough and your auxiliary fan will not run and your engine or electronics on the engine will over heat and cause all kind of weird problems. I moved the electronic off my 3.1 V-6 engines after replacing to many ignition modules. That was a GM error mounting them to the engine block. on the 3.8 they had corrected that problem.
I'll take my 67 Chevelle or 72 Pantera any day. I would hope a new car (45 or 50 years newer) would be faster stock, but as far an having style options, it must be a bummer seeing 20 of your exact car out on the road every time you go for a drive. I don't find any of the new styles appealing except for the Camaro. Thats a good looking car to me, I just wouldn't want to drive something I see 20 times a day.
10:50-11:00 of video . This is what REALLY happens when today's "Hemis" are put under stress......they fail. That wasn't only burnt rubber emanating from the fender wells.My bet is he damaged the rear -end or something in the tranny when he was warming up the tires Then the rear-end lurched mid race when the part failed and the car slooooooowed waaaaaaay doooown...... RIP Hellcat. Not worth the repair cost ......
Old school has style, but races aren't won with looks. Old school muscle cars are faster than horse drawn wagons, and new cars are faster than the old. It's called technological advancement folks.
Looks are in the eye of the beholder , the 69 camaro was beautiful , the 71 - 73 mustang and 69 Chevelle not so much , those particular examples anyways
That's really not bad for a 69 Charger, but it was modified or stock? or on equal modification as Demon? That Nova was pretty good as well for an old car.
Both winners in my book the old muscle cars set the standard even now. The news ones just like the old ones but just faster now. What's not to like here.old muscle evolved to faster better Newer Muscle. No need to compare here it's a win, win.
The new should be able to beat the old now days we have far more advanced technology but that being said never underestimate the old school they paved the way
This might get me thrown off of RU-vid/Google...but I like both the classics and newer stuff. If I had big bucks...both would be sitting in my garage/driveway. My drool factor...well..it would take a couple of buckets.
At very least, there's no legit comparison between a plastic(carbon fiber) body, and a steal/lead style. The fact that the carbon is lighter makes the competition invalid
I see no comparision or race, exept this is for pure fun, here... they seemingly race disregarding how low or high is their et's.... anyway old cars rock !
lol 99% of the comments are people triggered about the demon beating everything, it was created for drag, and maybe they don’t have the skill to build their own, or just want a monster
45 yesr old Nova SS still givin' these whipper snappers damn good reason to freak out! Nova SS does NOT fit well in any car's rear view mirror! Nuff said.
classic cars had heart and soul which gave them style. You could tell what make of car was coming down the road from a distance. Some could even guess the make by the sound it made. Todays cars basically look all the same. Your average person today cant tell you makes and models of cars today without seeing the badge. That being said just about any newer car is going to out pace a classic simply because engines and transmissions today are much more efficient. Modern engines produce more power from a smaller engine block and are therefore also lighter.
An interesting lesson: carbueration vs fuel injection, torque vs horsepower, and gearing differences. In most of the matches, the old timers get the jump off the line (torque, low gearing, high fuel portage), but the youngsters make up and take it in the top end (horsepower, injection). Also, the old timers are typically heavier bodies, with the young bucks not only lighter, but better suspension and traction device systems. Good post. I do agree with an earlier post: a lot of oldies out there running in the 9's that we didn't see here.
