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Old vs New School: Can a 1971 VW Baja Bug Keep Up With a New Honda Pioneer SXS in an Off-Road Race? 

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Комментарии : 135   
@Psalm1188
@Psalm1188 Год назад
Knowing how to drive the bug is important. You can’t baby them…which he does…because he’s scared. It’s in his voice 😂
@PaddyBoy644
@PaddyBoy644 Год назад
Don’t matter how much better that side by side is it’ll never be as cool as that Baja Bug! Great video guys! Cheers Pat
@Malc664
@Malc664 Год назад
Which one would you prefer to own?
@jessesumrall2449
@jessesumrall2449 2 месяца назад
@@Malc664the baha
@chriscon8463
@chriscon8463 Год назад
Love the sound that Baja Bug makes when you gun it!
@yeahman1975
@yeahman1975 Год назад
I know right!
@troyallen5806
@troyallen5806 Год назад
Yeah sounds good!
@brendanao
@brendanao Год назад
Me too! She is a keeper
@danielhomant2832
@danielhomant2832 Год назад
The most notable thing is that a 50+ year old, lightly modified, 2wd road car is being compared to a brand new, 4wd, purpose built off road machine. And yet the VW is able to reliably compete. Love my old 72 Wide Eye Baja. It has been through some serious pits and trails, never failed me. And, unlike a side by side, can legally take it down any road and highway to drive it home. Except for a heavily modified, purpose built Baja, a multi-purpose vehicle will always lose out to a dedicated, purpose built one. A Baja is just a modified car, and that one isn't modified much. A side by side is designed from the beginning to off road. And they all lose to the Sherp anyway, heh.
@mhviper1987
@mhviper1987 Год назад
That bug is sweet , but man that oil filter is Vulnerable!!!!
@mehGyver
@mehGyver Год назад
The most consistent part of this show is that their comparisons are always Apples to Oranges. LOL. Put the pioneer in 2wd at least.
@Wheelman1966
@Wheelman1966 Год назад
Exactly..
@tomthumb2815
@tomthumb2815 Год назад
And a vw rail would also be a better comparison
@wompa70
@wompa70 Год назад
Thing is, you can drive the baja to and from the field. You'll have to haul the Pioneer. I grew up with rail buggies. God, I miss those things. 2-seaters and 4-seaters. Mostly VW engines but we did have one with a 1970s Porche motor. When I say "we" I mean the group of 4 or 5 families who hung out together.
@47Rolling
@47Rolling Год назад
Brings back memories of my 1965 Baja bug that also used to be my daily driver.
@desertsavagery
@desertsavagery Год назад
Between the two I'll take the Baja Bug 7 days a week. Honestly the Honda was on mud tires and the Bug was on what looked like a well worn set of K02s...swap those out for some KM3s or some MT Baja Boss MTs and I think it would've been even on the logs as well...minus the impending spinal compaction from the suspension in the VW 😂
@nicktelesco4950
@nicktelesco4950 Год назад
He is afraid to drive it aggressive. Why build the engine? Trailer queen. You make us look bad. New mud tires. Air down all 4 and push it hard.
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 Год назад
What a great video, the Baja Bug is the coolest car I can remember seeing on TFL. And if Tommy had left the side by side in 2 wheel drive the Bug would've taken it.
@oddrocket2743
@oddrocket2743 Год назад
Baja Bug and Manx Buggies just ooze classic cool. Very cool video. I want both!
@jasonhobson-b4y
@jasonhobson-b4y 3 месяца назад
Looks like they’re having fun! As others have mentioned, the newer vehicle has a huge advantage with 4 wheel drive, but the big holds its own nicely!
@Shooter11B
@Shooter11B Год назад
This was a 100% unfair comparison. Since one is 4x4, and one is only 2wd, ALL tests should have been done in 2wd.
@MrIamafarmboy
@MrIamafarmboy 10 месяцев назад
yes, and one of them had a tire on the roof.
@s.centralkeystone558
@s.centralkeystone558 Год назад
That Baja Bug is awesome!
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 Год назад
The Baja did a lot better than I expected! Cool!
@bookooc5605
@bookooc5605 Год назад
love the bug. I had a bone stock '70 bug (in 1973) in high school, and I used it like a dune buggy in Jax, Fl dunes and trails. Never got stuck. I really miss that bug.
@bluceree7312
@bluceree7312 Год назад
David as the Stig. Some say....
@dalejones4322
@dalejones4322 Год назад
That is a really cool bug. Great video. Thanks guys
@stevest1300
@stevest1300 10 месяцев назад
1. Who drove down the highway to the course? 2. Who didn't get wet because of the rain? 3. Who didn't air down his tires to get some grip? 4. Who didn't giver the way you need to to drive a bug? The bug and a heavy foot.
@yeahman1975
@yeahman1975 Год назад
I know the K02s are great but some BFG KM3 or Nitto trail grappler MT would make the bug shine in that mud Plus the poor man's posi mod could be good too Always excellent content One of the only youtube channels I never have to fast forward.
@JarmelSingsKaraoke
@JarmelSingsKaraoke Год назад
Thanks Tommy and Brendan and all the TFL CAMERA NINJA'S....Have a good day everybody ✌️
@8oliverraymond
@8oliverraymond Год назад
You might want relocate that oil filter on the bug.
@gregferris9378
@gregferris9378 Год назад
I'd be happy with either of them especially if I had a playground like you guys do to drive him around.
@markcoopers1930
@markcoopers1930 Год назад
Loving the rally course addition. Should get a TG style leaderboard going. Or 2 for snow times.
@Capricorn2500
@Capricorn2500 Год назад
Tommy needs to quit cheating and leave the SxS in 2 wheel drive for a fair comparison!
@FunkMasterJunk
@FunkMasterJunk Год назад
Thats Baja bug also wins for coolness and authenticity!
@Z-S-H
@Z-S-H Год назад
❤ That baja bug!!! Awesome Vid today tell him to bring that bug back on camera to do more!!!❤❤❤
@gadgetmantwincities
@gadgetmantwincities Год назад
Somebody should make a beetle body kit for side by sides! That thing looks really cool😎
@amazingjason455
@amazingjason455 Год назад
And keep the Beetle VIN and keep it street legal.
@chrishuyler3580
@chrishuyler3580 Год назад
I'm guessing someone sells conversion kits and suspension kits to outfit a beetle with just about any drivetrain you want. That's certainly the way to go.
@nightbasser73
@nightbasser73 9 месяцев назад
Baja is for true old school off roaders! SXS brought all the city slickers to the trails
@legostud
@legostud Год назад
I loved my 72 Baja bug. Awesome fun off-road.
@patar4568
@patar4568 Год назад
More Baja bugs!!! The original side by side.
@rosswallace2969
@rosswallace2969 Год назад
😂 Brendan was having a blast
@rsbrehm
@rsbrehm Год назад
Need to get an AWD drive train for that Beetle.
@Offshore1977
@Offshore1977 Год назад
Baja bugs need to come back. They are the coolest. Especially on sand.
@DeanGelsinger-wq9lr
@DeanGelsinger-wq9lr 8 месяцев назад
Love the Baja but I don’t get hondas probably because I am not a school teacher
@chriskonrad3713
@chriskonrad3713 Год назад
You had me at Baja Bug.
@patricko1563
@patricko1563 11 месяцев назад
put air shocks on the back end of the bug, cheap, fill them from compressor, boom 6 more inches travel. and gets the oil drain off the ground. also skid plate of at the very least change the back cage to be under the engine... :) owned a 61 and a 66 back in the 80s :)
@justinstrother9506
@justinstrother9506 Год назад
Love this video! Well done.
@gadgetmantwincities
@gadgetmantwincities Год назад
Tommy’s zip up hoodie is sweet!😎
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 Год назад
Oh Tommy. A helmet and gloves for this!!!😂😂😂. Just kidding: nice vid.
@amazingjason455
@amazingjason455 Год назад
Let’s see how a Model T does on the course.
@Wheelman1966
@Wheelman1966 Год назад
I'll bet it does the whole course.
@donaldliverance2597
@donaldliverance2597 Год назад
Those vws were and are awesome I had a Meyers Manx back in the early 2000's and I'll tell you I'd never take a sxs over it
@engir63
@engir63 Год назад
This is not a relevant test the area that you are testing the bug in is not what it was made for it is a BAJA vehicle not a 4X4 there is a difference.
@whirving
@whirving Год назад
Wow, that bug sounds NICE!
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 Год назад
This was awesome guys love you
@shumann1605
@shumann1605 Год назад
Fun video! Love the Baja Bug!
@amazingjason455
@amazingjason455 Год назад
Can you put a locker in the Beetle?
@forresttm
@forresttm Год назад
The centre lights on that baha are so fing cute.
@einfeldt777
@einfeldt777 Год назад
😂😂😂 Awesome job, super fun video, 100% beetle wins 🤗
@therichie9916
@therichie9916 Год назад
Being from SW AZ that was the lowest riding baha bug I've ever seen.
@kethelowazah2393
@kethelowazah2393 Год назад
Personality of the bug owner is 100....could be a regular at TFL and we'd have no complains
@jimmcclay5117
@jimmcclay5117 Год назад
The bug wins the coolness award
@robertlotstein9670
@robertlotstein9670 Год назад
So a rwd car on all terrains vs a 4x4 golf cart on mud tires... in mud. Seems kinda biased to me.
@dubworldvwadventures
@dubworldvwadventures 6 месяцев назад
Baja bugs rule! More smiles per gallon!
@ChatNoir443
@ChatNoir443 Год назад
The Honda is for work and reliability. The VW is for fun, nostalgia.
@richardnottelmann58
@richardnottelmann58 Год назад
Brendin is very nice about Tommy's picking on him.
@chrishuyler3580
@chrishuyler3580 Год назад
I love all the old vs new adventures you guys have on this new property. Keep up the great content in all seasons!
@yorkchris10
@yorkchris10 Год назад
That's IRS , I'm wondering if swing axles would stay planted more?? Portal axles from the van would help with clearance.
@ephjay6t87
@ephjay6t87 Год назад
My bug looked a lot like that but had bus tranny and raised spindles. I seen these guys testing what looked like a gas powered golf cart and laughed at them. Turns out they were early SxS 's.
@mikemartinez1557
@mikemartinez1557 11 месяцев назад
I would drive the Baja Bug anyday.
@onixbonilla4420
@onixbonilla4420 Месяц назад
Very entertaining!
@johninama585
@johninama585 Год назад
Baja Bugs are fantastic.
@heathdelzell9547
@heathdelzell9547 Год назад
Love the Baja!
@Aldeeezzy
@Aldeeezzy Год назад
That bug looks like fun 😁
@fish25guy
@fish25guy 24 дня назад
Baja Bug is street legal, so you can go get your groceries and then take the scenic way home haha
@michaelconner204
@michaelconner204 Год назад
Wait a minute testing in the mud a 2 wheel drive bug against a 4 wheel drive off road vehicle. Really this is beyond any kind of a rational test. VW bug is Cool!
@drmarkintexas-400
@drmarkintexas-400 Год назад
Thank you for sharing 🏆🤗🇺🇲🙏
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Год назад
Tommy: I'm going to go 1st and then see if Brendon can get his junk up it. Properly stated Tommy. 🤣
@whos-your-mate
@whos-your-mate Год назад
Always fancied a Baja Bug 🤘👍
@Chapps1941
@Chapps1941 7 месяцев назад
The Bug would've done way better with a bloke prepared to give it a go. In my _Born to Run_ days (1975--80) l gave the cops the slip and and they were driving Valiants withe 360s in the GM-Holdens 308s in them 3x. My Krauts went anywhere: sports fields, fire trails, creeks, gravel tracks, etc.
@jlsgarage872
@jlsgarage872 Год назад
Really need to weld the diff or something in that bug
@CatBurglar84
@CatBurglar84 Год назад
A better option is turning brakes. Either mechanical via individual e-brake levers or hydraulic. You can corner hard and in sticky situations it allows you to lock up the tire with no traction and divert power to the other wheel.
@bubot17
@bubot17 7 месяцев назад
Not bad for the bug❤❤❤
@joshc606
@joshc606 Год назад
Yay some SXS content!
@otroflores91
@otroflores91 Год назад
Why not compare them in the sand dunes and hard pack desert. Pretty sure baja bugs were not intended for the mud.
@mtnduck3674
@mtnduck3674 Год назад
One would think, right? However do a search for "fusca gaiola trilha" sometime and it might surprise you how well bajas do in mud...
@davidemathis
@davidemathis 18 дней назад
In the hands of a more experienced Baja Bug driver, that Beetle would have been much more successful. For a fraction of the cost of the side by side and tons more fun to drive... Baja Bug all the way.
@gyulatakacs1824
@gyulatakacs1824 Год назад
Go Monsterbeetle!
@bernardhossmoto
@bernardhossmoto Год назад
Diff lock on the Beetle?
@ohctascooby2
@ohctascooby2 4 месяца назад
Big diff is vw is 2wd, whereas honda powered is 4wd. Give bug 4wd, which is available, and its playing in another world.
@Team.WorldTour
@Team.WorldTour Год назад
3:14 😳😳😳😳 DUDE! SERIOUSLY?
@laroark5036
@laroark5036 9 месяцев назад
Not to be an ass but 4x4 vs 2 wheel drive not really fair . I have always loved VWs .
@michaelalfonso1070
@michaelalfonso1070 7 месяцев назад
Apples and oranges, The Honda had 4 wheel drive, mud tires and a lighter driver. Price comparisons? Baja is way cooler! Anyone can build a Baja, more fun and probably cheaper.
@jayhiggins5239
@jayhiggins5239 Год назад
For a true comparison, leave the Honda in 2WD.
@jonas852
@jonas852 Год назад
i will take the bug every day of the week
@trevorjurges3430
@trevorjurges3430 Год назад
Tommy should have kept it in 2x4 the whole time, more fair!
@jws1503
@jws1503 8 месяцев назад
No feeling for the clutch, a beetle...Käfer..climbs on every Hill with a little bit feeling for it
@holden8239
@holden8239 Год назад
The bug would do much better with some aggressive mud tires.
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 Год назад
Tough day at the office! Pioneer wins for capability, but baja bug wins for cheap thrills and character
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Год назад
Notice the crew spectators that came out for it? Bet it was to watch the beetle disintegrate.
@mattgorman6643
@mattgorman6643 Год назад
To cool
@JamesBoyer-zd7hw
@JamesBoyer-zd7hw 5 месяцев назад
Ya. A two wheel drive vs 4x4. That's about as fair as racing that Honda side by side agents my yz 250.
@wannabeangler
@wannabeangler Год назад
....and the Bug costs $30,000 less!
@joshc606
@joshc606 Год назад
Leave the Pioneer in Auto, it will do better. Really like the course!
@tomthumb2815
@tomthumb2815 Год назад
Rather see a vw rail vs
@armadillo6900
@armadillo6900 10 дней назад
Why does side by side guy have to be stuck up prig
@Jims-bushcraft
@Jims-bushcraft Год назад
Baja more fun to drive.
@HGFHY
@HGFHY 8 месяцев назад
4x4 vs 4x2? Injust comparison
@davidrivero7943
@davidrivero7943 4 месяца назад
Baja Bug NOT a Mud Bug & other than a stinger , it rebs up more like a carburated stock 36 hp . Honda = fuel injected , 4x4 with all of todays turn key tech.
@nickdwyer5340
@nickdwyer5340 3 месяца назад
Yeah I’m not here for the side by side
@Styrkur13
@Styrkur13 Год назад
Pardon me? @10:32
@MediKombi
@MediKombi Год назад
I’ll take the old Baja Big anyway. The new one is just a glorified golf cart.
@benjaminphillips1086
@benjaminphillips1086 Год назад
And no heater
@gdrael66
@gdrael66 7 месяцев назад
Seriously? 5k bug vs. 20k sxs
@matthewm3912
@matthewm3912 Год назад
No one with a brain is shocked. These SxS machines and quads are SO OVERPRICED for what they are.
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