actually thats not true, u just got the speed you lost from win10 to win11 back mostly. And I would prefer products that deliver their full potential from day one and not 4 years later. fine wine is just a stupid name for bad software development.
In one of their reviews, GamersNexus called the 5950X the "most efficient CPUs we have ever tested" (this was before Zen 5 shipped so it may have changed today). I still haven't seen the need to replace mine.
@@ScottGrammer I find it strange when people with a top-of-the-line flagship are like "yeah it STILL runs great" when it's only three years old. Seriously, is a flagship only expected to last two years and three years is a remarkable achievement? I don't get it. I have a 5950X too BTW lol
Yep. I switched to AMD on my most recent builds because Intel's P-core/E-core scheduler were exclusively Windows 11 and I thought I'd get everything I could out of AMD with Win10.
No. Windows 11 has far too much security stuff to ever reach parity with Windows 10. This operating system is absolutely paranoid, yet exposes all your data to the entire inflamatory multiverse.
I am still proudly running the 5800X3D on a B550 Motherboard! (I mainly play Starcraft II at 4K) But I can't bring myself to upgrade! It has been an insane value!
We haven't seen anything to think that the 3000 series is positively affected but we only test with 14-16 games...it could very well be there are some cases but if that was the case I'm guessing AMD would have disclosed that in their blog posts.
Titan RTX isn't too bad either. Sure it was waay overpriced for 20% more performance and 13GB more VRAM than the 2080TI but it still matches the 3080/4070 in raster performance when overclocked and probably the upcoming RTX 5060 as well while still having twice the VRAM.
@@handlemoniumit was waay much overpriced like everytime. For ptp and durability 1080ti remains their Best ever product. 5800x3d along with am4 îs AMD Best product so far. Good analogy that i also used. I will buy an used and funcțional 1080ti soon. The founders edition. Keep it working for 20 30 years. It will be a retro gpu. Do the same i think IT will gain value.
there is bad and good installs of the new update, i know users who got an avg of 9-11% performance gain on their 5600x/5800 non 3D. i got it my self with my 5800H on a laptop. in lords of the fallen my fps jumped from 93 to around 115 in the exact same spot.
Its really random. No idea why there's such a huge variance from one user to another but it could also be some folks were already behind on updates since in order to get access to the Optional Update, you needed the latest Required Updates be installed as well.
I don't really understand why people say this, Personally, I think Starfield is BGS best game yet, it's not perfect, but it's far better than reviews would lead me to believe. I've put almost 800 hours into it and I still feel like it has a lot to offer me.
I thought this would be relevant to me. Still on Win 10, Ryzen 7 3700X carried hard by my Radeon 7900XT which replaced my RX580 8GB 😂 and honestly the upgrades are due but I'm not playing anything new enough to justify it, not even VR. Side note, I have 48GB of RAM... don't ask, it just happened.
Before everyone comments, please remember at 1440+ you won't notice anywhere near the same performance uplift, I know, I tested it before updating. 24h2 hopefully will have a better boost.
@@HardwareCanucks pretty sure I saw 3-4 fps improvement in 1% lows in your graphs when you claimed there are no improvements when games are GPU limited such as in Alan Wake 2. That is a win regardless!
@@HardwareCanucksIs there really a point of testing these parts at 1080p, obviously that's the only way to tell the difference. But nobody, nobody with these components are gaming at 1080p.
@@karma.2781 In the future, when games become more demanding people upgrade their graphics cards or lower their graphical settings these CPU differences will become more apparent
What about those old guys that are grumpy and don't like Windows 11 to the point to remain in Windows 10? Even worse, with a high end but not 3D processor like the R9 5900X? Asking for a friend...
If your friend is happy with their current setup leave it alone. I really don't like windows 11 either, I'm honestly considering Linux before I go to Windows 11. With time the X3D chips and Windows or Intels split core architecture will mature and probably be even better.
Because windows 11 UI and features sucks. They remove settings, heck now one cant even create a local account, need MS account. Its just all bad and worse.
How can we call it "older" if the weakest of them gives 120fps in an actual AAA title? How much do we need? 400fps because this number is on your monitor, guys?
I am kind off stuck with 5800x3d. Upgrading to am4 is expensive move bcs only 7800x3d makes sense. Its close to its 2cnd birthday so i bought it 64gb 3600 kit so its even harder to upgrade now.. Now i am waiting for good deal on 7900xtx so i can build Stable diffusion machine..
Get that GPU upgrade man and you will be golden. Unless you are using it for professional use and are maxing out capacity. No need to upgrade anything else. Enjoy what you've got!
U don't need 7800x3d bro. From 5800x3d to 7800x3d it's like why. 10% for a whole ass build investment ? U don't have enough fps ? 5800x3d holds 2 more series of gpus my friend. Next it will still be a great choice for mid high budget gpu. Like xx70s nvidia . Maybe even ți for 4k. And last series when nvidia 6xxx comes out should be enough for a xx60 series type of gpu. For gaming . If works don't reincest in pcs. Devaluating assets. U just lose money . My take. Cpus are pretty much op and 2k and 4k monitors getting cheapee and cheaper. If You play at 4k u will be able to run on a 6070s 6070s ti
Rainbow 6 might have been the outlier as they have recently removed vulkan. I've seen much worse performance on directx12 so I recommend directx11 for now. Using a 7800x3d and 7900xtx
Thanks. Its a new format for us and trying to get as much information into a short amount of time as possible. TBH, pontification isn't my thing so, hopefully this works - Mike
I just built a Ryzen 5 3600 system with parts i have lying around and id love to see the performance improvements with this new update. Gonna pair it with a 5700xt
BTW I Tried that technique when I upgraded to windows 11 a couple weeks ago. It would never load the new update. I had to download the ISO which fixed the issue and then after that I was able to get increment updates.
C’mon. A lot of HW media dropped the ball by not setting notifications for when Microsoft cuts a new branch for Windows. You could’ve noticed 24H2 May 2024, branch prefix "ge"; and could’ve reported on the insider variant before it actually got pushed to some notebooks. How’s reporting done these days, do y’all rely on press releases and copying from channels who actually do discovery?
We continually keep up to date on Windows branches. However, nowhere was anything said or has anything been said about these scheduler updates. Not in a press release, not in the MS developer blog and not in the Insider Preview's release notes. As a matter of fact, the MS Developer Forums were flooded with posts wondering why NO ONE was aware of these changes until AMD mentioned them.
Yeah im really curious as I have one of those as well as a 7800X3d this is nice news - ill check tommorrow if my laptop has updated, if not ill run cinebench f23 before and after!
Things used to move so much faster than they do now. I went from a Phenom II processor to a Skylake processor in about 5 years. Before that whatever Core 2 Duo was in the family computer was borderline unusable after 5 years. It's really just a matter of perspective. I think you're right that 4-5 years is no longer very "old" in the sense that it's still relevant to use.
Still on AM4, I 'upgraded' my 3900x to 5700x3d. I bought another mobo and dropped my old 3900x in my home server, overpowered? Yes. Did it just because I already had it? Also yes.
can I ask what you use for your Camera? the picture quality in your videos is absolutely amazing on my 4k OLED screen. Also... I can't see those optional updates when I look in the same spot... maybe not available in my location yet?
5600x is now 60fps in the witcher 3 in novigrad? Edit: This is NOT a GPU bottleneck. This is with RT on on a 4070 TiSuper . These settings are more limited by the CPU than the GPU at the resolution I play at. Thanks.
@@Maherbaset it's not a GPU bottleneck. Ray tracing on a 40 series GPU relies more on the CPU than you'd think. It drops below 60 only inside the town square.
@christophermullins7163 oh i thought games like spider man has something new in their engine that made ray tracing so heavy on the cpu i didn't know that it's a thing with the 40's series GPUs
Is there a different Windows Update version number for Mobile chips? I've checked mine and there's no KN5041587 optional updates. I have a Ryzen 5 5600H, which is listed in the impacted skus
I think the 5800 and 5700x3d will go down as CPUs on the same level as the i5 2500k, probably even more legendary. I don't see myself upgrading again until there is another paradigm shift in computing. It's crazy to think that a $100 B450 motherboard from 2018 might last through 3 major GPU upgrades and over a decade.
i don't know, i have seen latelly videos about ryzen getting less performance on W11 than W10 so maybe this update is not a performance gain but a recover of it.
Remember that’s only 1080p using a RTX 4090 “$2,000+ GPU to “highlight” the “performance” of a CPU. If anything you should be running at 1080p low settings to boost the FPS. Only way you going to see this is if you have a $400+ CPU and $2,000 GPU.
I know you can't test every Ryzen CPU but since I'm rockin the Ryzen 9 5900x, I would be interested to see the patch improvements for the 5900X CPU. I bet You guys are sick of installing windows 11 by now :P
Been a windows guy forever, tired of their crap, installed Linux mint a couple weeks ago and haven’t touched the windows boot since. Going to see how long I can go before I “need” something 😅 My 5900x seems snappy enough in mint
I wish you had included Space Marine 2 here (very heavy CPU usage title). But Kudos for testing Zen3 Series. My 5800x3d keeps delivering the goods it seems
