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Oldest Christian Dynasty | Georgian Monarchs Family Tree 

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@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 3 месяца назад
Finally the Caucasus gets a little due attention
@sergimgebrishvili6235
@sergimgebrishvili6235 3 месяца назад
150 likes and no reply? I'll fix that
@njnikusha
@njnikusha 3 месяца назад
Thanks man
@CoachJJ
@CoachJJ 3 месяца назад
I mean, it's too easy to get lost in which Bagrat, Constantine or David to we're referring to throughout its history to really stick in John Q. Public's mind.
@matthiasdvorsakhillebrand2393
@matthiasdvorsakhillebrand2393 3 месяца назад
Alright, Armenia is next probably. After that, maybe Caucasian Albania, Circassian and the monarchies of the northern Caucasus, such as those of the Chechens, Avars, Lezgians, Laks, Kumyks, Kalmyks, etc…
@Choucheeeenn
@Choucheeeenn 3 месяца назад
Yeah proper caucasians, not just fair skin/white people that for whatever reason, americans can't just label as so.
@David-dc4xt
@David-dc4xt 3 месяца назад
Actually Erekle 2 of Georgia did not break pact with russia. It was russians who abandoned him at Aspindza war during the battle and Erekle 2 with his small army still defeated the osmans. Please gather the facts correctly.
@davidiashvili1800
@davidiashvili1800 Месяц назад
ხო მეც ეგ არ მომეწონა კიდე რო რუსეთი გამოდის კარგი და მართალი რა დააშავა ამ ერეკლემ კაცო 😢
@david_post_punk
@david_post_punk Месяц назад
Aspindza war was way earlier than the pact
@David-dc4xt
@David-dc4xt Месяц назад
@@david_post_punk yes as well as open talks with russia about partnership and joint fight against common enemy Osman empire.
@TamarMebonia
@TamarMebonia Месяц назад
I think you meant Krtsanisi, not Aspindza. Krtsanisi battle happened roughly thirteen years after signing the pact. Aspindza was before that. And yeah, Russians were just chilling somewhere while the most devastating invasion since Mongolians was taking place.
@irinalezhava2577
@irinalezhava2577 Месяц назад
@@davidiashvili1800 The best explanation of Georgievsky Tractat is in DAIV !
@ferrjuan
@ferrjuan 3 месяца назад
A member of this family was a General of the Russian Imperial Army during the Napoleonic Wars he was Prince Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration he was one of Napoleon’s most dangerous opponents during the Russian campaign.
@crystalp7242
@crystalp7242 3 месяца назад
He’s also one of the real life historical figures mentioned in “War and Peace” and in his case he was also included as a secondary character. He died of wounds he sustained during the Battle of Borodino, which is covered substantially in the novel. (The battle was a Pyrrhic victory for the French, as the battle had weakened both sides so much that the Russians allowed the French to take Moscow. The Russians then set much of the city aflame to keep Napoleon’s army from plundering the city for supplies. With a lack of food and other supplies for the French deep in enemy territory, Napoleon left Moscow only a month after capturing it and it began a long French retreat that was exasperated by the harsh winter weather in the region, for which the French army was ill-prepared.)
@LashaEbral1dze
@LashaEbral1dze 3 месяца назад
He would've been a great Georgian general if georgia didn't went to shithole because of ottoman empire and persia
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 3 месяца назад
Ancient Georgia then known as Colchis to the Greeks is where Jason went to find the Golden Fleece which was protected by a huge dragon and he fell in love with the sorceress/princess Medea. The "golden fleece" thing is quite interesting as even nowadays in Georgia prospectors use a sheep skin to pan for alluvial gold in the rivers and the fleece becomes "golden" because of the small particles of gold trapped in it.
@noahcaucasus
@noahcaucasus 3 месяца назад
Golden fleece was a manual written in gold letters how to artificially produce and multiply gold and silver and precious metals, it was an Alchemical manual and whoever had this wisdom was considered to be chosen nation.
@nataliemir6720
@nataliemir6720 2 месяца назад
And the word "medicine" is from Medea's name, as I know.
@giogio772
@giogio772 Месяц назад
Golden fleece story is alchemical. And its iven more important than current understaning of this story.Philosopher's stone was made in Kolkheti.
@noahcaucasus
@noahcaucasus Месяц назад
@@giogio772 I have not met Georgian who understands this concept yet, stone of philosophers will be back to Georgia soon, it's great to see that there are people like you that exist, we need more Georgians to wake up and remember our true heritage.
@dkurt2725
@dkurt2725 Месяц назад
🤦‍♂️yeah it has nothing to do with ancient method of harvesting gold with sheep skin but fing alchemy yeah good old ancient aliens
@lukarekhviashvili1855
@lukarekhviashvili1855 3 месяца назад
Georgia did not break the giorgevsky tractat first. That is a lie and liable
@aramkitkhemoambe9801
@aramkitkhemoambe9801 Месяц назад
ნუ ბოდავ. ჩვენ დავარღვიეთ. წყაროებს გაეცანი
@0ttina
@0ttina Месяц назад
​@@aramkitkhemoambe9801No Georgia didn't, There is no credible historical evidence or widely accepted scholarly interpretation suggesting that Georgia broke the Treaty of Georgievsk first. The responsibility for the breakdown of the treaty and subsequent annexation lies primarily with the Russian Empire.
@lukarekhviashvili1855
@lukarekhviashvili1855 Месяц назад
@@aramkitkhemoambe9801 პუპსიკ რუსეთში თუ გინდა ფრენები ღიაა და ჩაეთრიე პეტროგრადში. ფაქტი ესაა: გიორგევსკის ტრაქტატი დაარღვია რუსეთმა როცა მეფობა წაგვართვა, რუსეთის ომში არ შესვლა რომც დარღვევა იყოს ბევრად უფრო მცირეა ვიდრე ჩვენ თვითმართველობის ჩამორთმევა
@aramkitkhemoambe9801
@aramkitkhemoambe9801 Месяц назад
@@0ttina There is no credible historical evidence or widely accepted scholarly interpretation suggesting that breakdown of the treaty and subsequent annexation lies primarily with the Russian Empire.
@sabaurushadze1639
@sabaurushadze1639 Месяц назад
@@aramkitkhemoambe9801რა მოხდა?
@forstokketklaphat1189
@forstokketklaphat1189 3 месяца назад
The Danish statue does not depict king Gorm the Old, but Ogier the Dane (Holger Danske).
@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 3 месяца назад
I blame Google :)
@MortarIvy
@MortarIvy 3 месяца назад
Old viking monarch guys all look the the same 😅
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076 3 месяца назад
​@@UsefulCharts Hey could you do Armenian Monarchs
@Rydonattelo
@Rydonattelo 3 месяца назад
​@@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076 I love Armenia ✝️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🤝🏽🇦🇲☦
@Fares-Hasan09
@Fares-Hasan09 3 месяца назад
​@@UsefulChartsThe Abbasids were not a continuation of the Persian Empire, and before them were the Umayyad and Rashidun caliphs
@mland2012
@mland2012 3 месяца назад
One of the things I appreciate about Georgia is how much the medieval history is still widely known and celebrated, even as the country still lives in the 21st century and builds a forward-facing future for itself.
@mr.filmteligence8415
@mr.filmteligence8415 Месяц назад
It is so wonderful that such a small country survived countless huge empires inculding mongols and byzantia😮😮❤ actually i think the georgian democracy and civil rights were as high level as ancient greeks❤❤ death penalty was prohibited in USA in 20th century but in Georgia (საქართველო) in 12th century❤❤❤❤ let this country get its respect after so many centuries❤❤❤❤
@zurajavaxishvili2320
@zurajavaxishvili2320 День назад
😇❤🙏💒
@levanikojulakidze5213
@levanikojulakidze5213 3 месяца назад
Thank you usefulcharts for reading my comment and doing video about georgian familly tree. You really deserve more than you have already by this point.☺️
@aliksanon6491
@aliksanon6491 3 месяца назад
Very happy to finally see this chart made, looks great
@StoicHistorian
@StoicHistorian 3 месяца назад
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!! I love Georgian history and especially the Bagrationi
@iliakezevadze4341
@iliakezevadze4341 Месяц назад
Wow lots of wrong information here. Russian General in Georgia who was supposed to helped us literally run away from battle and left Erekle II alone. Russians break the pact and later occupied whole Georgia by force. "Russia has no good generals. The exception is Bagration" - Napoleon about Petre (Piotr) Bagration.
@skwarubwa7083
@skwarubwa7083 3 месяца назад
Probably the best known modern-day member of the Georgian royal family was Prince Guéorgui Vassilievitch Matchabelli (1885-1935). A native of Tiflis, in 1921, he and his Italian-born wife settled in the United States. In 1926, they established the Prince Matchabelli Perfume Company. The prince, an amateur chemist, blended the company's perfumes. Among its best known brands was Wind Song (later heavily advertised on television). Other favorites were Ave Maria and Princess Norina. All the perfumes came in crown-shaped bottles.
@august8696
@august8696 3 месяца назад
that’s cool. are they still in operation?
@skwarubwa7083
@skwarubwa7083 3 месяца назад
@@august8696 Yes, they are. Bought and sold many times, Prince Matchabelli Perfume is now owned by Parfums de Coeur, Ltd. Windsong is still a top-selling perfume.
@grigolgiorgadze2670
@grigolgiorgadze2670 2 месяца назад
Lool Machabeli was no prince but represented one of the most prominent Georgian aristocratic family and he just claimed the title.of prince for fuuuun
@skwarubwa7083
@skwarubwa7083 2 месяца назад
​@@grigolgiorgadze2670 It is true that Machabeli was not a prince in the sense of someone in line to the monarchy, but until quite recently, the title of Prince generally was used by all members of aristocratic (aka princely) families, in other words, a general term for noblemen. I'm sure Machabeli was aware that calling himself a prince enhanced his status and the status of his business, giving his perfumes the added aura of glamour and sophistication.
@godnimrod
@godnimrod 3 месяца назад
Byzantines didn't really put Ashot I as the king, for around 150 years Georgia had dynastic wars going on and the Bagrationi dynasty came out victorious, the only involvement from the Byzantines was some support of different candidates and the title of "Curopalates" that they gave out, during this time there was no King of Georgia, but there were Georgian Kings, that's how we call the period between 500s to 700s To explain as shortly as possible, between 300 BC and 600s Georgia was divided into 2 kingdoms, the Kingdom of Colchis (Later Lazica) in the West and the Kingdom of Iberia in the East and South, there were a few Georgian dynasties that ruled these regions and they had very close relations, every time any outsider was attacking both Colchis and Iberia would unite, after around late 400s to early 500s Chosroid dynasty of Iberia got split and so did the Kingdom of Iberia's territory as Iberia itself in East Georgia, and Tao-Klarjeti region in the South. After that, Georgia was always divided into these 3 parts with significant nobilities ruling these regions, even during the Kingdom of Georgia. At the end of the 500s the ruler of Tao-Klarjeti and younger brother to the ruler of Iberia Guaram I was the man who is considered in Georgia as the founding father of the Bagrationi dynasty, he started the "game of thrones" and the battle between royal dynasties and just noble dynasties, both Anchabadze and Bagrationi dynasties were born from these dynastic wars. The Chosroid dynasty died in the process of these dynastic wars, but it transformed into the Bagrationi dynasty, and after that, the video explains everything correctly. I just explain this because of one particular reason, some propaganda machine from one of today's empires that wants to tear Georgia apart tries to make it seem that Anchabadze weren't Georgians, they were influenced by the Byzantines way more than the Iberians, but they were Georgians, every proof that there exists including manuscripts, including churches and writings on them all are in Georgian, and from every century, from the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, especially from the 10th to the 12th centuries as during the "Golden Age" churches were built everywhere. This is important to mention for certain reasons. Also, Hearclius didn't leave any battles, Russia abandoned their own plans, it was the Russians that broke the Treaty of Georgievsk and multiple times, I don't know where did you get that info from, I have read Catherine's letter to her general in Georgia from Russian archives, how they decide to break the agreement, where did you get info that Heraclius broke it? That's a huge false information.
@annasmith572
@annasmith572 2 месяца назад
წერილი ტოტლებენისადმი მეც მწარედ მახსოვს ბავშობიდან
@yeastandgrapes
@yeastandgrapes 2 месяца назад
probably read in Wikipedia about Giorgievsk treaty)
@levanikojulakidze5213
@levanikojulakidze5213 Месяц назад
@@godnimrod yes you are right but in case of division Georgia was devided only in 2 parts only time when it was decided even more was after 1490 A.D Romans wanted to influence and at least make vassal state in whole caucasus starting with lazica ofc it is near to influence it was held by romans even in 750 A.D only after Leon II becoming king Romans lost western Georgia,yes it was wars from inside of dynasty eventually Bagrationis become victorious ( well if you know because they were vassal domisticoses and Curopalates of Tao-Klarjeti like Romans where aiding them in case of thing if ruler wanted help to fight well it's only me saying this because it is logical being aided by strong state makes you victorious in regional wars that you need so you would unite and rule over them makes sence that Tao-Klarjeti won in dynastical and political ways. ) overall i agree with you
@akakipetriashvili19
@akakipetriashvili19 2 месяца назад
Despite King Heraclius II of Georgia's efforts to maintain his country's commitments and not break any agreements, the Russian Kingdom did not provide the expected support during his conflict with the Ottomans. Instead, Russia stood by as Heraclius II and the Georgian army faced the Ottoman forces alone. This situation underscores the complex and often fraught relationship between Georgia and Russia, which has been characterized by a series of conflicts and political maneuverings over the years.
@levanikojulakidze5213
@levanikojulakidze5213 Месяц назад
@@akakipetriashvili19 yea but kinga should be catefull for that time because nobody talks how Peter I did not hell bother from Vakhtang VI of Kartli he asked many times and even died waiting for help from russians but russians did not came ( sadly )
@martinbudolph2656
@martinbudolph2656 3 месяца назад
love how i always learn something new seeing usefulcharts videos
@thomasdixon4373
@thomasdixon4373 3 месяца назад
Been waiting for you to do Georgia, I hope Armenia is next as that region has such an amazing history!
@danfsteeple
@danfsteeple 3 месяца назад
საქართველო! Love my Kartvelians in the United States
@choonyongtan5671
@choonyongtan5671 3 месяца назад
Your channel always makes the best charts ❤
@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 3 месяца назад
This one is made by a fan :)
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076 3 месяца назад
​@@UsefulChartsHey could you do Armenian Monarchs
@pedromenchik1961
@pedromenchik1961 3 месяца назад
You mentioned this is one of the last major royal dynasties missing from the channel. I would like to see you also cover in the future: - Belgian Kings - Armenian Kings - Grand-Dukes of Luxembourg - Bulgarian Empire - Kingdom of Greece (modern) - Hunnic Empire - Kingdom of Kongo - Songhai Empire - Ghana Empire - Maurya Empire - Kingdom of Cambodia (both modern and Khmer Empire) - Majapahit Empire - Srivijaya Empire - Sultanate of Brunei - Tui tonga Empire - Xiongnu Empire - Tibetan Empire - Mamluk Sultanate - Gokturks - Sultanate of Oman
@mrileeks
@mrileeks 3 месяца назад
Agreed. What's the address upon definition of a "major dynasty"?
@notdpanda9525
@notdpanda9525 3 месяца назад
That Alexander must've wanted to imitate Charlemagne with how bad his succession plan was.
@Astatine95
@Astatine95 3 месяца назад
Many in the medieval ages have. Way too many.
@brendenwright7957
@brendenwright7957 3 месяца назад
In the end, Charlemagne's Succession plans didn't matter when all but one of his legitimate sons had died... and that was an attempt to follow Frankish custom, as when one ruler died, the realm would be divided by all surviving sons, rather than just the Eldest inheriting it all... which I think was one of the dumbest ways Succession could work, if Norway or Russia weren't example enough...
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq 3 месяца назад
He destroyed Georgia
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 месяца назад
@@brendenwright7957 he tried to rebuild he's kingdom but unfortunately failed
@alenahubbard1391
@alenahubbard1391 3 месяца назад
What about the Pope?
@romancouncil7087
@romancouncil7087 3 месяца назад
Fun fact, Pyotr Bagrationi fough against Napoleon in Austerlitz and Niko Bagrationi from the mukhrani branch fought in the second boer war.
@besogochiashvili7682
@besogochiashvili7682 2 месяца назад
Niko Bagrationi even captured Winston Churchill
@StarterAtYoutube
@StarterAtYoutube 2 месяца назад
​@@besogochiashvili7682 really? Can you give me the source? (შეგიძლია მაგ ინფორმაციის წყარო მითხრა რომ გადავიკითხო)
@nikajaliashvili1346
@nikajaliashvili1346 Месяц назад
@@besogochiashvili7682 i heard about that but i dont know it is true?
@besogochiashvili7682
@besogochiashvili7682 Месяц назад
@@nikajaliashvili1346 yes, that's true. Churchill was a young soldier back then
@tarafahomsy
@tarafahomsy 3 месяца назад
As a human being, I've never despised another human being like Timor the Lame..
@turan_kaya
@turan_kaya 3 месяца назад
He was up for no good
@njnikusha
@njnikusha 3 месяца назад
He was a curse upon Georgia But still lost
@turan_kaya
@turan_kaya 3 месяца назад
@@njnikusha He was a curse upon everybody
@greatexpectations6577
@greatexpectations6577 3 месяца назад
Timor the Lame was the Grim Reaper
@dazartim2809
@dazartim2809 3 месяца назад
skill issue
@United_Georgia
@United_Georgia 3 месяца назад
I've been watching you from Georgia for 2 years! Thank you for the video !
@giorgisimonishvili3491
@giorgisimonishvili3491 2 месяца назад
12:16 not true. From the correspondence of Totleben and Ekaterina it is clear that Heraclius repeatedly asked for the military assistance, which he would never get. Totleben betrayed Georgian king on battlefield by moving his army to capture Tbilisi while Heraclius was fighting Turks. It was then when Georgians left the battlefield to defend their own capital.
@abdullahqavi1465
@abdullahqavi1465 3 месяца назад
Personally i think the kings of kartli and the kings of iberia shoulve been the same color bcuz apparently the region called kartli was historically known as iberia.
@yeastandgrapes
@yeastandgrapes 2 месяца назад
it's actualy the same Kartli is a georgian name of kingdom and Iberia is how it was called outside of Georgia
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq 3 месяца назад
Georgian history and culture are fascinating. I have loved Tamar from the start.
@irinalezhava2577
@irinalezhava2577 Месяц назад
GustavoHenrique-kp5sq Then you will be pleased to learn that she was never a queen. Her royal status was King Tamar and we, Georgians, feel absolutely furious if anyone calls her a queen ( kings spouse). She was a king herself!
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq Месяц назад
@@irinalezhava2577 I know she was titled as a King and address her as King Tamar in my social media posts about history. And I have a crush on her unironically in spite of being a 16 year old Brazilian with no relation to Georgia; heck, Brazil did not exist for almost 300 years after King Tamar's death, and arguably over 300. I feel disheartened at the fact I live so long after her lifetime, although, given how low living standards were during the Middle Ages, I am probably better off living in the twenty first century. I should change my profile picture to something else, or a historical figure I agree with politically and that's it.
@tig79rover91
@tig79rover91 Месяц назад
@@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq Hi bro! Shota Rustaveli himself, as a rumor says, was in love with Tamar, who happened to be a woman of extraordinary beauty.
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq Месяц назад
@@tig79rover91 I am frequently compared to Rustaveli for this reason, but believe it's a legend like Hitler only having one testicle in that it could very well be true but there's no way to know.
@igormarins1227
@igormarins1227 3 месяца назад
Georgia is super cool.
@TherealSoggyCan
@TherealSoggyCan 3 месяца назад
When they have faced 3 rulers with "great" in their title, its safe to say they are old
@brendenwright7957
@brendenwright7957 3 месяца назад
YES.... I HAVE WANTED TO SEE A VIDEO ON THE GEORGIAN MONARCHS FOR SO LONG.... WOOO!
@Nika-ce3iz
@Nika-ce3iz 3 месяца назад
Glad you covered Georgia as well
@ReshonBryant
@ReshonBryant 3 месяца назад
Didn't even know that about the Georgian's. I would've thought it was the Russians or English to be the oldest. But, well, well, well🚬🧐
@Kuna9613
@Kuna9613 3 месяца назад
Love this! More caucasus content please! There's a lot of potential for videos!
@Qartlos
@Qartlos 2 месяца назад
12:10 Russian forces never helped. All the battles happened without their help during this “agreement”. Erekle II(that’s how we call him) was alone in 1795. It seems like you got this information out of Russian sources
@Bobbys11850
@Bobbys11850 3 месяца назад
Fun fact: Maria Vladimirovna was married to Franz Wilhelm, the grandson of Prince Joachim of Prussia, who was actually briefly considered as a candidate for the Georgian throne in WW1. This makes their son George Mikhailovich the descendant of a proposed King of Georgia, the Romanovs who ruled over Georgia, and the Georgian kings.
@realerthanyourdad_
@realerthanyourdad_ 3 месяца назад
Tamar is a King, no one refers to her as a “Queen”
@nikoloznanuashvili2873
@nikoloznanuashvili2873 2 месяца назад
Respect from Georgia. Great work, bro🤍
@tunapicok9914
@tunapicok9914 3 месяца назад
Inaccurate facts about Irakli 2nd please do more research on the matter. Russia never send army to Georgia to help Georgians.
@john-michaeldearstyne8027
@john-michaeldearstyne8027 3 месяца назад
The Arsacid kings of Armenia is the first Christian dynasty
@meme-potentialsearch8010
@meme-potentialsearch8010 2 месяца назад
Thye couldn't make it to the present day, sadly. But some say, their branches still exist
@pettylein
@pettylein 3 месяца назад
How perfect. I was reading upon Georgian politics, when I saw that the current president advocated for a constitutional monarchy in 2008 with reinstating the Bagrationi dynasty. I was about to check if you uploaded a video about the Georgian monarch and well, you perfectly uploaded it 4 days ago :D Let's see what you say.
@nicolae1126
@nicolae1126 3 месяца назад
Excellent job! Thank you for making a video about my home country!
@eagleeye182
@eagleeye182 2 месяца назад
The Battle of Martqopi (1625). 27,000 out of 30,000 Iranian soldiers were put to the sword. The Georgian Army attained a crushing victory against the army of Shah Abbas I.
@VeritasForYou
@VeritasForYou Месяц назад
What rubbish at the end, Georgians were absolutely loyal and very brave during the Russo-Ottoman war, Heraclius (as you called him), even won the battle of Aspindza, but Russian General Totleben betrayed him, planning the rebellion against the Georgian king. Eventually, Russia took his General back, and they never held any agreement whats so ever!
@zuradugladze3626
@zuradugladze3626 Месяц назад
Tamar was called a king!! (The "Deed of Saladin" found in the Catholic Institute of France, Saladin's entry into Jerusalem in 1187. Medieval miniature Beha ad-Din tells us that the king of Georgians (Tamar, obviously)
@ajsp3012
@ajsp3012 3 месяца назад
The first Christian King was Armenian. Tiridates the Great (298 - 330) was converted to Christianity in 301.
@meme-potentialsearch8010
@meme-potentialsearch8010 2 месяца назад
Sadly, his dynasty is no longer exists, while the cowardish Bagratuni ran to georgia and live even today, hating Armenia, hating their own roots. Pathetic.
@datoda3593
@datoda3593 Месяц назад
​@@meme-potentialsearch8010Bagrationi dynasty comes from the Tao region which was historically inhabited by Kartvelian tribes
@gegart01
@gegart01 Месяц назад
@@datoda3593 hmmm… and before that?
@datoda3593
@datoda3593 Месяц назад
@@gegart01 God knows what, the oldest people we definitely know of were Kartvelian
@edgarzatikyan3130
@edgarzatikyan3130 3 месяца назад
Do the same for Armenian monarchs too
@meme-potentialsearch8010
@meme-potentialsearch8010 2 месяца назад
Almost none left. All were killed either by russians or by turks. The remaining were russified during soviet times. bagratunis are the exception, and even they used to go under russified surnames for some time. I remember the Syuni dynasti still living in USA. But that will literally make their family the oldest in the world, so i don't know about that. Another major one are Mamikonyan, bit it is also not clear.
@Mworldgames
@Mworldgames 3 месяца назад
USEFULL CHARTS POSTED
@njnikusha
@njnikusha 3 месяца назад
Thank you for taking a time and all the effort for the content. As native Georgian I could not be more thrilled for world to get familiar with my native country and its priceless culture
@turtleking7963
@turtleking7963 3 месяца назад
I have been waiting for this since Matt mentioned it in the video of who would be the Russian emperor Glad you did it thank you Matt you did a good job with video it’s very interesting of all the Georgian kingdom went through
@sharky98
@sharky98 3 месяца назад
I don't care about religion. I don't care about monarchy. Yet, I here watching this video because I love the charts, how they are made and the story telling. 😅
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 3 месяца назад
You _should_ care about religion and monarchies, since humans are, on the whole, hierarchical and superstitious.
@wyatt8315
@wyatt8315 3 месяца назад
About time the Iberians got some attention Who else thinks the channel should cover the Siam family tree?
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq 3 месяца назад
Carlos Drummond de Andrade, a Brazilian poet, wrote a poem in 1930 titled "elegy to the King of Siam"
@Howie672
@Howie672 3 месяца назад
Use of BCE and AD in one time line is unusual
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639
@muhammadhabibieamiro3639 3 месяца назад
Another amazing video
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 3 месяца назад
Thank you as always for the information
@simondeep
@simondeep 3 месяца назад
Good ole georgia
@fydofire
@fydofire 3 месяца назад
Interesting...gonna read more about those. Maybe you could consider adding little maps in your videos ? Like Kingdoms splitting up, getting conquered, change size, create alliances etc. Would make those videos perfect in my eyes.
@treekangaroo.7691
@treekangaroo.7691 3 месяца назад
Okay but why did the devil go down there
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076
@idontneedfriendsbutmyselfd3076 3 месяца назад
Who's the devil?
@ioanealavidze4716
@ioanealavidze4716 2 месяца назад
?
@werothegreat
@werothegreat 3 месяца назад
If they get their name from the Armenian dynasty, wouldn't the Armenians be the oldest Christian dynasty?
@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 3 месяца назад
No, because the Bagratuni dynasty died out a long time ago.
@Georgian1121
@Georgian1121 2 месяца назад
Bagrationi dynasty was named after king bagrat III who was heir of all the three georgian kingdoms. He was the first king of united Georgia.
@torgomaghanyan7633
@torgomaghanyan7633 Месяц назад
​@@UsefulChartsit's literally the same dynasty, they are georgified for obvious reasons, but is still branch of Armenian Bagratuni dynasty. Same as Arshakuni were branch of parthian Arscasids
@narekmargaryan4429
@narekmargaryan4429 3 месяца назад
Oldest Christian dynasty is Arsacid dynasty of Armenia, which ruled Armenia from 52/66 to 428 AD. First king who offically adopted christianity, was Tiridates iii of Armenia (298-330) in 301, while Georgia adopted Christianity during 330-337 through Armenia.
@Herculestt5588
@Herculestt5588 3 месяца назад
да да мы это уже слышали🤣😂, Армяни до Исуса были христянами
@ReshonBryant
@ReshonBryant 3 месяца назад
​@@Herculestt5588But, only Jesus can be Christian before Jesus😆
@Herculestt5588
@Herculestt5588 3 месяца назад
@ReshonBryant it's are not mine words, it's are ar Armenian people who say they were Christians before Jesus, and I'm not joking 🤣😂
@noway6379
@noway6379 3 месяца назад
Obviously biased video... fascist tur kish dictatorships must be paid for this video
@narekmargaryan4429
@narekmargaryan4429 3 месяца назад
​@@Herculestt5588 Where did you see me saying Armenians were christians before Christ, and what make you laughing?
@eagleeye182
@eagleeye182 2 месяца назад
Simon I spent 9 years in the Alamut Castle, the Fortress of Assassins. Then again, he was captured by the Ottomans in 1599 during the Battle of Nakhiduri and spent his remaining years in the Yedikule Fortress.
@kvirogabunia8246
@kvirogabunia8246 Месяц назад
Tamar wasn't a queen, she was a king. You can believe it, she was a woman who was a king.
@ionatsintsadze4052
@ionatsintsadze4052 Месяц назад
One thing. Kingdom of Abkhazia was not just north west part of the country but entire west part of Georgia, later as indispensable part of United Georgian Kingdom. If separatist Abkhazians are going to rewrite history simply ask what language they used in service and on what language was made writings of frescoes in their churches. And why they have been removing them for 3 decades.
@ha8er463
@ha8er463 Месяц назад
It became entrie west only when it was United. Before Abkhazia there was Abasgia, vassal of biyzamtium empire and Apsils
@MrSinclairn
@MrSinclairn 3 месяца назад
Very good vid,nearest '(male-line) longveity' competitor might be the Irish O'NEILL clan descended from legendary,semi-historical Niall 'of the 9 Hostages' (c.370-411) ;I hope you get around to discussing them and their major extant branches.👌👍
@gvn1111
@gvn1111 Месяц назад
Thanks for the video. BTW important correction. Tamar wasn't queen. She was officially king. თამარ მეფე (Tamar mepe) is King Tamar.
@Unknown-yn4pk
@Unknown-yn4pk 2 месяца назад
Why would Georgia break Georgievski traktat first? To whom would it be more beneficial to? Considering Russia at that time had annexed Entirety of Northem Caucasus, and Georgia was at existential crisis, wouldnt make any sense if Georgia had to betray only "protector" of its country at that time.
@LaNiBlackLight
@LaNiBlackLight 3 месяца назад
I've just recently got married in Tbilisi, I wish I had that video before then, so I could know a bit more of Georgian History before coming there. Loved Tbilisi ❤
@anitshughuryan1920
@anitshughuryan1920 2 месяца назад
My Family was Amatuni Dynasty. Which is also was king of South Gorgia and Armenia.
@almeladze
@almeladze 2 месяца назад
@usefulcharts, so if Bagrationis trace their roots to Bagratunians, how come Bargatunians are not THE oldest dynasty?
@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 2 месяца назад
Because the Bagratunians died out.
@almeladze
@almeladze 2 месяца назад
@@UsefulCharts but the title of the video does not say the oldest LIVING Christian dynasty!
@C43S4R3
@C43S4R3 2 месяца назад
No Georgian wants to admit that the Bagrationi dynasty started as a branch of the Armenian Bagratuni dynasty. I don't know why, but it seems that about 90% of Georgians hate everything about Armenians.
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 Месяц назад
Bagrationis were Georgian there origin does not matter
@C43S4R3
@C43S4R3 Месяц назад
@@giorgijioshvili9713 I didn't said they weren't Georgians. Yes they were/become Georgians. But why "origin does not matter"? It is a history. thats all. we shouldn't hide it. Simple as getting peasent bride.
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 Месяц назад
@@C43S4R3 because there origin is not relevant its unknown some say they were Georgian some say they were armenian while Bagrationi family claimed they are related to David King of Israel Bagrationis were Cultrurly and natioanaly Georgian its all that matters almost all armenian/Georgian royal dynasties are from Iran but that doesnt make them Iranian
@avtandilachuashvili8437
@avtandilachuashvili8437 Месяц назад
Thank you for the video. There's a mistake regarding Heraclius II, initially he didn't break the agreement
@Xaiff
@Xaiff 3 месяца назад
Great idea to start my new CK playthrough😂
@taherbertolinirodrigues9104
@taherbertolinirodrigues9104 3 месяца назад
I spoke to a member of the georgian Bagrationi dinasty, head of the kakheti branch, he makes instagram posts on heraldry
@animatorguy8688
@animatorguy8688 Месяц назад
well explained. thought the Georgians did not break the 1783 treaty first.
@TubeBeru
@TubeBeru Месяц назад
We did not. There is not a fact in history, showing that king Irakli did it. On the another hand, Russian empire, turned back on Georgia, in battle of Krtsanisi. When we needed them, duo to our agreement. Russian army simply did not show up. After Georgia was destroyed, they showed up and draged Georgia in Russian empire. That was stab in the back of Georgia. But Russian propaganda is teaching kids in schools, that they saved us.
@animatorguy8688
@animatorguy8688 Месяц назад
@@TubeBeru Yes! Exactly 💯
@joeybakker1283
@joeybakker1283 3 месяца назад
If we go by Wikipedia, the Georgian royals after Rev II and Aspacures II can trace their lineages back to at least the 2nd century BCE, where they decend from the Gens Julii through Marcus Antonius!
@wierdo-jc7xv
@wierdo-jc7xv 3 месяца назад
Its not Queen Tamari tho. Her title was Mefe(King).
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq 3 месяца назад
Her title was "King of Kings and Queen of Queens"
@ekajaparidze3315
@ekajaparidze3315 3 месяца назад
King tamar
@wierdo-jc7xv
@wierdo-jc7xv 3 месяца назад
@@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq Yeah but her first title was Mefe so everyone calls her thatm ive never heard of anyone calling her dedofali.
@annasmith572
@annasmith572 2 месяца назад
@@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq The title Mepe in Georgia was used for Kings and Queen Regnants, we did not separate it by gender. and we also have a term for Queen Consorts Dedophali which literary is translated as mother of King. After Marriage to avoid confusion in statuses King Tamar became King Of Kings etc. whereas her husband had title of the King, (fun fact we still did not apply the title to her husbands, just calling the by names in masses, I mean).
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq
@GustavoHenrique-kp5sq 2 месяца назад
@@annasmith572 She used the title "queen of queens" in Arabic language coins, but both titles are correct to refer to her in a historical context.
@levanlomia9046
@levanlomia9046 Месяц назад
Everything is correct other than relationships with Russia. Russia actually destabilized peaceful relations of Kakheti kingdom with Persia, they proposed to Unite Georgia and provoked war. Eventually for the battle of Aspindza they left without even engaging to the battle. They waited until king Erekle II was exhausted in the battle with Persians, There are even rumors that they poisoned king Erekles son Levan. (who would be the next king) And after years of wars, they dismissed Georgia as a Kingdom and occupied powerless state.
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 3 месяца назад
That area in the World throughout History was a Fulcrum between all corners of the World. Which if you’ve ever played a 4X Game, does not fair well for it. All kinds of fascinating things get mixed together there. But it’s always someone’s next Conquest. If you think about it, virtually every large Nation or Empire, either popped up like wild fire then collapsed, or slow burned in some sort of Geographical and Economic Stronghold. You hold the Choke Point.
@meme-potentialsearch8010
@meme-potentialsearch8010 2 месяца назад
All early Bagratuni kings had Armenian names, but it's still only "possibly" Aremenian dynasty?
@gegart01
@gegart01 Месяц назад
true. Ofc Georgians don't want to be a branch of Bagratuni dinasty
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 3 месяца назад
Lady Ashley's a famed socialite and showgirl's fifth and last husband was Prince Dimitri a Georgian royal.
@barrankobama4840
@barrankobama4840 3 месяца назад
I guess it should be stated the definition of Dynasty at the beginning of the video. If we mean an unbroken line of succession in which each new element is linked to the previous by being their relative, 814 is not old enough to make it "the oldest Christian Dynasty". Robertians->Capetingians->Bourbons have an unbroken and documented line of father-son links which started before 800.
@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 3 месяца назад
A royal dynasty starts with the first person in a noble house to become a king and continues so long as there is at least one male-only line descendant that is still living. Even if we go with the first Robertian instead of the first Capetian, we'd have to start with Odo, who became King of France in 888.
@LucasLegalBatata
@LucasLegalBatata 3 месяца назад
wait did the channel profile picture changed when?
@jamalo4177
@jamalo4177 3 месяца назад
The new red background for the logo is very royal, fitting for the channel. Could it have a deeper meaning?
@anastasiakirbey1034
@anastasiakirbey1034 3 месяца назад
As a georgian thank u❤
@LazyWeebKagami
@LazyWeebKagami Месяц назад
4:51 Tamar was NOT a Queen. She was The KIng Tamar. never in history was she refeered as queen. George III didn't had a son so he rised Tamar as his heir for the throne, 6 yeares before his death he recognised Tamar as the rightful king of Kingdom of Qartli (aka Georgia) and she was allways revered as such.
@ruyfernandez
@ruyfernandez 3 месяца назад
Mmmm... I can smell the European Royal Family Tree - North/East chart remake coming.
@giorgixanishvili6060
@giorgixanishvili6060 Месяц назад
Good job, but we didn’t betray our promise to Russia, the army they sent was headed by a French general that turned the army around and instead of helping us started conquest against Georgia. Which weakened the king we fell to Persians and then they expelled the Persians and conquered us.
@memerabi5311
@memerabi5311 Месяц назад
russia betrayed heraclius, georgians were fighting persians while waiting for russian army but russians betrayed us and left
@george_davituri
@george_davituri 26 дней назад
thanks for covering about my country
@augustulus1277
@augustulus1277 3 месяца назад
4:49 bro why does Demetrius i portrait looks like that one Ralph bakshi ren & stimpy waking up meme
@ramirosotto
@ramirosotto 3 месяца назад
Lmao!
@avantelvsitania3359
@avantelvsitania3359 3 месяца назад
I kid you not, this is *the* video I was expecting the most to see on this channel. The House of Bagrationi has as much potential as any other European royal dynasty. I think it could have been covered in more detail. Also the union of the two main branches despite their (ongoing) rivalry, and the fact that the Georgian monarchy is one of the closest to being restored. If prince Giorgi is raised right and his parents are wise enough in dealing with the succession issue, we may see a towering figure of Georgian history later this century.
@annasmith572
@annasmith572 2 месяца назад
We must not forget that prince Giorgi has older half siblings. He actually is the 3rd child of Princess Anna.
@TillEulenspiegel.
@TillEulenspiegel. 2 месяца назад
The idea of a constitutional monarchy in Georgia is absolutely not popular and causes nothing but ridicule and irritation. This is mainly due to the fact that the Bagrationi, having failed to save the independence of the country, then became officials of the Russian Empire. So this project is nothing more than a backward whim of the Orthodox Church. As for David and Anna, they were practically forced to get married and have a child. And the reason was only the whim of the Orthodox Church. Then they divorced. The child is brought up in the church in an extremely backward and pro-Russian environment in all respects. Parents don't decide anything. You can guess how inadequate he will grow up. This is just crazy in the 21st century.
@WebFanNY
@WebFanNY 3 месяца назад
The House Bagration is now also part of the Imperial House of Russia since Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna's mother, a Bagration princess, married Grand Ducke Vladimir of Russia. This makes the current House Romanov the most senior of all royal houses in Europe and Middle East dynasties via the maternal line.
@user-by3li1xl1s
@user-by3li1xl1s 3 месяца назад
Most of the Romanov family members do not accept the claims of Kirillovichi (Vladimir and Maria) to be the rightful heirs to the dynasty.
@ruthanneseven
@ruthanneseven 3 месяца назад
That's crazy, considering that MY DNA is present in all generations from the same woman.😂 The Y chromosome is sometimes debatable. Therefore, it seems more sensible to do matrilineally than patriliniear, imo.
@jadziadax6617
@jadziadax6617 3 месяца назад
Great video!
@mrrageboy9107
@mrrageboy9107 Месяц назад
Heraclius II didn't break the giorgevsky tractat first. Russians were supposed to help in that war but they never came.
@filipexavier8771
@filipexavier8771 3 месяца назад
Funnily enough, I was exploring the visigothic dynasties and kings in CK3 and the very first king (of the Iberian Visigoths, Alaric I)'s father was Georgian. He died in Constantinople, and Alaric I, his son, migrated to Iberia. That fact took me on a wild spiral on Wikipedia.
@talinhajinian7459
@talinhajinian7459 3 месяца назад
Can you do Armenia please? Great work thank u
@Schmusbek21898
@Schmusbek21898 Месяц назад
Little Corection: Tamar was Not considered as Queen. She was considered as a legitimate King which is an absolutely loud novelty in the entire middle age. Another part is the fact that the Bagratuni dynasty has nothing to do with the Bagrationi dynasty. Yes, both sound the same, but the origin is completely different
@krisv001
@krisv001 3 месяца назад
Good video!
@hollymolly394
@hollymolly394 Месяц назад
Our Georgian brothers 🇦🇲❤️🇬🇪
@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 3 месяца назад
Hi UsefulCharts, can you please make a video on the Cambodian royal family tree. Thank you very much and please accept my request.
@heroyan10
@heroyan10 3 месяца назад
Ashot I wasn't somehow related to Bagratunis of Armenia, he was armenian himself, and Bagratuni dynasty is more than 2200 year old, because Smbat Bagratuni was the general who took northern regions of Armenia back from Iberia for Artaxias I of Armenia.
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 месяца назад
He was not Armenian
@heroyan10
@heroyan10 3 месяца назад
@@giorgijioshvili9713 Ashot I's grandfather Duke Vasak of Tao-Klarjeti and Prince Smbat III of Armenia were brothers, sons of Prince Ashot II The Blind of Armenia
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 месяца назад
@@heroyan10 Ashot I was born in Tao-klarjeti, he was Georgian orthodox Christian and spoke Georgian and he's decendents united Georgia Also i would add that he fought to unite Georgian lands, build many Orthodox Churches and during he's reign Tao-klarjeti became political and religious center of Georgia
@heroyan10
@heroyan10 3 месяца назад
So you want to say that if your grandson is born in italy, becomes catholic and speaks italian that will make him italian, while you were born in georgia and speak georgian. For me grandchildren of an armenian are armenian, grandchildren of a georgian are georgian, no matter where they were born and in which language they speak. And one more fact: Tao or Tayk in armenian before the Arab invasion were part of the Kindom of Armenia for more than 800 years. Before Bagratunis it belonged to Mamikonyans, and strategically it was a very important region for armenians as they were always fighting against Sassanid Persia.
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 месяца назад
@@heroyan10 its not just about conversion or language they speak. they became Georgians for example stalin he was Georgian but had nothing to do with Georgia more with russia many Georgian generals who served in russian empire were ethnically Georgian but there nationally was russian. the culture one belongs to is a more relevant indicator than one's original ethnic belonging. in antiquity many dynasty's ruling Georgia or Armenia were of persian origin are we going to call them Persian too? Tao-klarjeti was a Georgian kingdom official language was Georgian it was orthodox and capital was Artanuji. Tao was ruled by Armenians and Georgians but mostly Georgians :)
@paisan8766
@paisan8766 3 месяца назад
I’m leavinggggg On that midnight train to Georgia!
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