Oldest Creation Myths from East of Europe: When the Devil created the Earth 

Jon, am I seeing things or isn’t the Muskrat story in the Americas also related?

Why is it a Duck that creates the world and sky, that spins like a spiral into night and day, Zeus knew why, he choose the Swan, because of it's magic wand, Long Long is it's Ding-Dong, that curls into a spiral. Male muscovy ducks, for example, have corkscrew-shaped penises that spring out from their body in less than half a second and are 20cm long when erect. Other species' length varies from 1.5 to 40cm., a world record, compared to body size, even bigger then the Sperm Whale. Some ducks also have barbs on their penises to scrub away competing sperm. Female ducks have corkscrew vaginas, they twist in the opposite direction to the male duck's penis. But, crucially, they have dead ends they can try to send the males down if they don't want to have their ducklings. Male ducks are notorious for attempting "forced copulation" with females. Like Zeus shapeshifting into a swan to do his "forced copulation" with Leda, Queen of Sparta.

@9:00 The Dualistic Creation of the World, seems like the Dualistic Cross, Gemini, Sagittarius, Virgo and Pisces, the two fish, the Twins, the half man half beast, and Virgo, the mother who is also a Virgin too, and Dualistic it is. I just left a comment about it at "Anu the OLDEST Father God" video from Gnostic Informant TV, to save time, I'll just copy it over here. Passages in the Pyramid Texts connect Isis closely with Sopdet, the goddess representing the star Sirius, whose relationship with her husband Sah-the constellation Orion-and their son Sopdu parallels Isis's relations with Osiris and Horus, their son Sopdu, sometimes called Septu is Venus. When you see a Goddess with her Lion, it could be Virgo and Leo, Venus being Male and Female in mythology, and the words "Boy-Girl" played in reverse will echo "Virgo", Latin for Virgin, where 'vir' means Man in Latin, 'gyne' is Woman in Greek, Virgin a Man-Woman, a Virgo is born is September, a connection to Venus ancient name Septu, whose wife was Chensit (Khensit), the daughter of Ra, her name means Placenta, whereas in Astrology, Virgo is the Belly Button, your first scare, cut from the Placenta. Hiding in the center of 7 is Eve, between the S'N, play "Sin Eve" in reverse to hear it echo Venus In the heavens we see Orion battling the Bull Taurus, play "Her Mithras" in reverse, it echoes "September", play "They All Rule" in reverse, you hear it echo "Orion", Sah or Sahu was known as The Hidden One. September, the Seventh Member, 1+6=7, place the Sun at the tip of Orion's Club, that will be on the day of the Summer Solstice, now go backwards in reverse, 16 days, now you have the Sun sitting on the Forehead of the Sun, the symbol of the Apis Bull. Doing this with the Winter Solstice, starting from the little blood red macula, we call Spiculum, meaning Spear, or is Speculum, a tool used by doctors, inserted into the woman, to look where babies come from, going back 16 days, places the Sun in Ophiuchus, the Left leg of Ophiuchus, seen as the War God Zababa, the husband of Goddess Baba, the Dog Headed Goddess Bau, the First Doctor, mother of "The Child" Damu, the Dying & Rising god of Healing. Ophiuchus is the 13th, a number associated with Hidden, like in the Belly of the Goddess, her womb, Scorpio, the 11th, is the Sexual Organ, Sagittarius the 12th, is the Hips & Thighs, and this being the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, who they called Gods, calling it The Golden Gate of the Gods, whereas Orion's Club marks The Silver Gate of Man, between Gemini & Taurus. Since the XIV Century, the two crossed keys have been the official insignia of the Holy See. The gold one, on the right, alludes to the power in the kingdom of the heavens, the silver one, on the left, indicates the spiritual authority of the papacy on earth. Play in reverse "Yam, Say Oath, Newest, Beyond The Mist, They All Role" they echo "Orion, Gemini, June, Taurus, May" The Silver Gate of Man Yam means Twin, from Yama, Yama (Sanskrit: यम), is the Hindu god of Death and Justice, and is responsible for the dispensation of law and punishment of sinners in his abode, Yama (Sanskrit: यम), also known as Kala, the Mahakala is Shiva, meaning Seven in Hebrew. Yama is the Twin of of Yami, the goddess of life, sometimes their roles are flipped. At the tip of Orion's Sword is Hatysa, the location where his Club(Penis) was cut from, the "Bright One of the sword" is the meaning, and the meaning to Sopdu's symbol of the Triangle, is "The Shape One" or "The Smart One", or the Tooth or Claw of the Lion. In Hebrew, haat means "to sin", yasa means "Savior", backwards "Savior of Sinners", Haya means Grain, and the name of a God, the Sword is not a sword, but a Waterfall of Orion's Blood, and the Star at the tip is his Seed. Play in reverse "Her Message, Say There Is A Guest, Her Bid One, Wise Quotes" they echo "Scorpio, November, Sagittarius, December" The Golden Gate of the Gods Now play "I Cupps, Scare Earth My Arm Of Nuit, Her Mithras, Boy-Girl" their echo "Virgo, September, Vindemiatrix, Spica" The hand stars of Virgo, the Gatekeeper. Now play in reverse "Way, I'll Open It, So They Go, See God" they echo "August, Regulus, Denebola, Leo" The tip of the lion's tail, and the heart. The Lioness uses her tail to communicate with the others during the hunt, and her young. Below is The Great One we call Aquarius, where we find the Mouth of the Southern Fish, the star Fomalhaut and Fomalhaut b, we call Dagon, known as the Fish headed god of Grain, associated with consuming the penis of Osiris/Orion, Dagon is where we get the word Dragon from, together they create the Eye of the Dragon. Now play in reverse these words "She Saw, Thou Am Wolf, Say You're Well Taught, You Will Be Fed" their echo "February, Aquarius, Fomalhaut, Pisces" All four creating a cross, in the center, spinning around the pole star is the Dragon Draco, and the Head of Draco was the Standing Wolf riding the Plough Handle, where you hang the Seed Cup, inside the cup is the Swine Star, known as Damu, Dumuzid and Tammuz. The Serpent hanging on the Cross, that Moses used to heal the Jews of all of their sins. The planets speak too, play these words in reverse, they echo the planets "Ra Stood-New Spin-Cinerary-New Dust-Her The Priest-Wife of Seth-Serum-Through-New Womb-Sin Eve-Here Ra Come, Make Luv" in reverse "Vulcan-Mercury-Venus-Moon-Earth-Mars-Asteroid Belt-Jupiter-Saturn-Uranus-Neptune-Pluto" Some folks think that there is a planet between Mercury and the Sun, they call it Volcan, who is associated with Hephaestus. Hephaestus once attempted to rape Athena, but she pushed him away, causing him to ejaculate on her thigh, lets just call it Sagittarius, the Hips & Thighs.

Astrology of Lascaux cave paintings

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Very good that he starts with the origin of these Eastern European myths, in New Zealand. That is a Waitaha creation story. It is uncorrupted because we pass the knowledge of specialist areas from grandmother's and grandfather's to selected grandchildren, in songs. If the child cannot repeat the song in exact perfect detail, then at the first mistake, everyone goes to bed, and the session of sharing learning is reconvened a few days later. It has been this way here for 500 thousand years.

​​@@Maungateiteicurious, but not entirely correct. The story is 4.5 bln years old and goes from the first RNA uncorrupted 😂, from uracile to adenine and vice versa through all generations

@@alekseibuinyi Yes, it may well be older than the record we keep in here in Zealandia, or Alfheim if you prefer a more ancient term. There have been humans in this hemisphere with brains at least as large as today for at least 2 million years, and with the genes associated with language capability also. Perhaps before that they enjoyed inhabiting Asgard, Antarctica, The land of fire and ice, encircled by Jörmungandr, the southern ocean circumpolar current, now broken by the cosmic storms, with thunder and lightning and subglacial volcanism induced basal outburst floods, pushing left by coriolis as they head north. Yes Ragnorok comes, Again, as so many times before. Every 12900 years in the last million. We call it the time of Tumatauenga, when Mother Earth renews herself. We feel sadness for the denizens of the Frigid Hell of the Laurasian lands of the Underworld, as once again they insist that they are immortal gods, refuse to heed the signs, the storys carved in stone temples by our giants of Stone and of Ice, the Ruariki and KahuiTipua. I am Arawyn, and I remember many of these past cycles. Perhaps many souls will graduate from the Underworld and return here soon. Or perhaps we shall return to Elfa Centauri, from whence life on this Earth was seeded. 😉 🐶🐍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🐉

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Thats good to hear. In my family they are tight lipped and will hit you for asking any questions, and Im not too far from your area oddly enough....

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Stay and rebuild Brazil, don't go to white ppls countries and ruin it. Even if your good, your kids have Brazilian genes and will revert to the avrg Brazilian in a couple generations.

Purely evil beings are fairly modern in the context of human history. Trickster gods are more common. And in a lot of myths, the "evil" we see is more of a anthropomorphic force of nature, a

Maybe is borrowed from these Eastern European neighbors , considering that Hungarian ancestors invaded Europe and their origins are in the Urals. Or, they had something similar back then also, when they were nomads.

Oh wow, yes, I immediately understood your metaphor, the sky does feel bigger and more distant when a tree is removed. In NZ we have a legend of how Papatuanuku and Ranginui!!(earth mother and sky father) were separated by their children the atua. One covered their mother's nakedness with trees.

I'm intrigued! What's this song?

@@DefinitelyNotBandee the Polish lyrics go like these: Było to ongiś na początku świata - Wtedy nie było nieba ani ziemi, Nieba ni ziemi tylko sine morze, A pośród morza na dębie Siedziały dwa gołębie. Dwa gołębie na dębie Toczyły taką naradę, Rade radziły i gruchały: Jakże my mamy stworzyć świat? Spuścimy się na dno do morza, Wyniesiemy drobnego piasku Drobnego piasku, niebieskiego kamienia. Drobny piaseczek posiejemy, Niebieski kamyczek podniesiemy. Z drobnego piasku - czarna ziemica, - lodowata wodzica, zielona trawica. Z niebieskiego kamienia - błękitne niebo, niebieskie niebo, świetliste słoneczko, Świetliste słoneczko, jasny miesiączek, jasny miesiączek i wszystkie gwiazdeczki My translation: It was back then at the beginning of the world There was no sky nor land No sky nor land only the grey sea And on the sea on the oak Two pigeons sat Two pigeons on an oak They had a council They had a council and cooed: How should we create the world We will dive into the sea We will pick fine sand Fine sand and blue stone We will sow the fine sand We will rise the blue stone From the fine sand - black soil, icy water and green grass From the blue stone - blue sky Blue sky, shiny Sun Shiny sun, bright moon Bright moon and all the stars

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The joys of auto-transcribe... I shall pay more attention in the future.

It was, I wonder if anyone will recognize me in your video?

@@Crecganford Ah, you gave it away!

I was curious, how many Hungarians I'd find commenting under this video. :D I am not disappointed!

Thank you for your kind words and support.

wrong Tiberian NOT Siberian... funny I to be such a know-it-all about something no man known anything (wow love these stories) 🤪🤪🤪

@@jesperandersson889 no, I meant Siberian which is most likely where the earth diver myth was created and spread over the land bridge to Norrh America where it became (several versions of) the Turtle Island myth.

Interesting, Zachariah Stitchin identified the holy cow with the mother goddess, Ninharsag… Mami

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i also think that underlying there is a shamanistic way of thinking, before Christianity the lines between good and evil were not as hard and Vedci , Veduni or Knowers in English, use all sort of "malevolent" helpers to get something done. But in fact is that this kind of work can quickly get you tricked and can set you on downword spiral... Btw in Synthian art ( and we found it also in Hallsstat culture) there is a lot of water birds depictions , was wondering why and maybe is becouse of this story ?

​@@markmandy9954Medieval legends regularly portray catholic so called Saints using so called devils as their helpers and sometimes outright slaves. The story of St. Nicolas and Krampus is a remnant of something that was FAR more Common. So the devilish helpers were right at home right in the very heart of Christianity. The idea that pre- or non christians didn't properly divide good and evil seems a tad dubious and self congratulatory to me. Especially when we consider Things Like the biblical God bragging about being creator and master of hellish, grotesque monsters as His pets, regularly sending explicitely evil spirits and counting Satan as his courtier and intimus, making bets with him and later openly admitting to having done so for no real reason. And even though Christianity later tried rationalizing all those things away, the Devil Always very much a servant of God who couldn't do a single thing without explicitely being allowed every evil act. And even then his purpose is to scare and terrorize people to conveniently come crawling to God. It is Christianity that ascribes to God a very intimate and cozy relationship to Evil. So there is no reason to doubt that if evil spirits (that again, in the bible repeatedly are directly called evil spirits FROM God) in some way ensnare or trick people, they are doing it at their true Lord's order, who is as responsible as if he was doing the tricking himself.

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I am often commended for my lectures in the class room, I love the interaction, but I do my best here considering the restrictions.

Thank you so much for your support and kind words.

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Thank you, although I think many people would find a discussion on the nuances of phylogentics quite dull. But I do think such a video would be useful to some, so let me think about it.

That is much appreciated.

I’m not aware of many versions of the myth with the diver carrying a torch, as the diver is usually a bird.

Is the staff not both torch and meteorite?

@@Crecganford look up the mayan version of the earth diver. It may have been one of the other central or south american cultures but I know im not mistaken about the myth of the diver i know ive seen it. I believe randall carlson who studies ancient myths has a few videos covering the mayan earth diver myth. Ill look ot up and edit my comment with new info. EDIT: the descending or diving god in mayan myth is always depicted upsidedown holding 1 or 2 things. Not alot is known about him so far hes only been found at 4 different sites being tulum,chichen itza,coba,sayil.

@@Crecganford there is multiple different representations as you said like a dog but you can find him depicted as a human in multiple different codexes. If interested or get a response ill name them. Hes often associated with the planet venus and is said that when he dissapears for or isnt visible for a certain time each year that he is in the underworld sharpening his spears to strike the peoples he doesnt like. Im not arguing that these myths are connected in any way to a transfer of culture. Just that different cultures have developed the same stories independantly.

Thank you, and I will probably make a video about Gobekli Tepe next year.

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the egg.

@@darrylviljoen6227 Exactly! But then who made that egg? And where did the sand come from? An earlier God?

An egg! Bahag

@@zipperpillow and where did that god come from?

Well, let's be honest, the "ny" in Kálmány usually taunts most Europeans :D Except maybe the Polish, who are familiar with almost every consonant far and wide. I do think he made an effort though. 'Szeged' was quite good.

@@metaltsigga I don't expect perfect pronunciation, but I wouldn't have understood some of the names if he didn't also put them up in text on screen. Just a little bit of coaching would make a big difference. But, yes, some Hungarian digraphs are hard. I've never heard a native English speaker get "gy" right.

The stories we have are more folkloric due to the age, but within them must be myth, and one day when I feel confident I have extracted these, I will tell these stories.

Due to turbulent clashes between Germanic and Slavic tribes, all concrete evidence of such mythology is currently completely lost, with some names and vague meaning behind them being somewhat reconstructed from Roman written re-tellings of what they understood. If we disregard them as biased and inaccurate, with no concrete physical evidence recorded, only way to somewhat extract myths would be cross-referencing adjacent folklore. In other words, there is a chance there won't ever be fully or even partially accurate deconstruction of pre-Christan mythology based around "Perun", "Svarog" or "Chernobog" in Slavic mythology There are counterparts of "Perun" deity in many other Indo-European cultures, namely Baltic and Norse, i recommend checking those out as they most certainly influenced each other.

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I shall add them to my To Do list.

Gnosticism?

Thank you for watching and clarifying that point.

I haven't touched on many of these, although some are in my To Do list, and so maybe later this year.

Thank you.

I am less familiar with the myths in the Americas, but will add that to my list of myths to read :)

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I was curious, how many Hungarians I'd find commenting under this video. :D I am not disappointed

There is no old hungarian faith dude :))) you don't really belong to europe area .. there is no old Hungary existing because huns and mongols come from Asia

Its Asia shamanisn..that is maya shamanisn that is from south America ROOTS that came from Africa

@@iiiDaExista yes we do belong to it, we pretty much lived right on the border between asia and europe for nearly all of history

@@iiiDaExista are you dumb? the south american shamanism is completely different from the one practiced in north eurasia

There is something in that, and I may get a chance to talk about it one day, and so well observed.