The real Scandal wasn't the situations Liv got clients out of, it was the fact that this smart, accomplished woman was a walking car crash when it came to her personal life.
I think ppl are missing the real point. It’s not that Olivia wanted to be a mistress, but since that’s how it started and she never fully had him to herself, the thought of having him to herself or taking him from Mellie was scary. People get used to what’s comfortable and fear uncertainty. Olivia was comfortable knowing she could have Fitz only during certain times, she knew what it was as a mistress..she feared the unknown of what their relationship would be if she actually had him to herself. Would he still love her the same way, would he do the same thing to her, does she truly want him for him or does she like the idea of being able to sleep with him bc of who he is and be sneaky. So no, I don’t think Olivia wanted to be a mistress. But afraid like she said. Any woman that has been in a similar situation can understand what she meant. An off limits man doesn’t mean he’s married, it could be a boss, or a friends interest, siblings friend etc. it’s easier to sneak with them and have them part time than it is to be their everything full time lol,I hope I make sense to someone.
@ÄKTA-MÄNNISKOR 06 Exactly...I don't understand how a successful fixer like her couldn't fix her own relationship... First 3 season writer said again and again that olivia is more than just a mistress.. but after 4th season she continued to prove it otherwise...
@ÄKTA-MÄNNISKOR 06 the writers truly failed olivia as a character and I in part blame shonda. It was like they didn't want to go full breaking bad but didn't want her to be the olivia pope we knew from the beginning. This made things extremely annoying by season 7, because after she's committed all these atrocities we're supposed to believe that now she has.... moral and qualms about killing people. I mean she killed Rashad and then hesitated about killing her Father, when she had already pulled the trigger on him seasons earlier....
There's something about Mellie and Olivia's relationship that I just love so much. Like even though Mellie was pissed at her for sleeping with Fitz she genuinely cared for Olivia. They understood one another and really loved and fought for each other.
Mellie and Olivia are a lot alike and she actually did like Olivia until she found out she was sleeping with her husband and without Fitz in their lives they became friends
A lot of folks are missing the point of this show. Fitz and Olivia's relationship wasn't supposed to be easy or simple. Her personal or love life was the highlight of the show. She could save anything or anyone from any situation but she can't save/fix herself. All of this relationship saga is rooted in the fact that she has issues with emotions and trust due to how she was raised
For the most decisive woman on tv, olivia sure is very indecisive about relationships. i think its because all her decisions never truly affect her.. until fitz anyway
Tina Loye I quite watching it after she moved in and the Christmas ep.I've seen better writing w my sci-fi shows.the character was such a narc and bipolar.
Remember Olivia told her dad that she don't attach herself to people because at the time she thought her mom died and her dad was hell he was command. She dont know what a traditional strong marriage looks like. She is in love with Fitz but as soon as Fitz made it to where he was available fully she gets scared. Also Mellie stayed because after everything she went through and sacrificed to get Fitz in the white house she wasn't gonna just walk away. She also needed him his platform to get to her political future.
It let her never full commit and jump. She's always had commitment problems. So Fitz was perfect that way. She didn't use him, but it was convenient for her when Mellie was still around. She had an excuse to not give all of her to him, to them, to their future.
Also Olivia never wanted to be the First Lady like Mellie did, Olivia never wanted to live in the White House or be a house wife. She wasn’t raised like they and she didn’t build herself in that way.
@@arielmariemoffitt1982 Then she should have told him that instead of wasting his time, telling him to keep the house & all that other ish. That's been one of the things that bothered me about her since Day 1--just the man what it is that you do /don't want.
Everyone is getting on her for having commitment issues but do you people not remember her parents.. She didn't exactly have the best people to look up too when it came to relationships. And whatever she thought was true was completely trashed in this whole show.. So yea of course she doesn't want to commit.
Olivia is the product of her fathers’ doing. Despite her upbringing and growing up with a family who was lacking in anything that resembled love, she fell in love with a man who in turn was madly in love with her. Olivia tried her best to destroy that love after her father convinced her that having such feelings for anyone let alone a man of Fitz’s stature was not only wrong but also showed a weakness in herself-hence as hard as she tried to reject Fitz’s love she kept coming up short. She tried everything she could to destroy her love for Fitz including sleeping around with different man and being mean to him to get him to leave-and yet she kept coming back to him. To say that she used anyone to get to where she is is a massive misunderstanding of the premise of the show and of the Fixer called Olivia Pope. Here was a woman who embarked on a journey to try to fix those who come to her for help and yet no one needed fixing more than Olivia herself. Towards the finale of the show Olivia did come to understand that point. She said to Fitz that she knows she was the problem all along. Her father also went through the same journey. He went to Vermont to ask Fitz-the only person Olivia ever loved to help bring her back out of darkness. Again, he said you need to make her fall in love with you again-the love papa Pope singlehandedly destroyed. It is a beautiful story that I think the world fell in love with. The show could’ve been called the making of or the Journey of Olivia Pope.
That’s the case for a lot of mistresses. They love it when they find the guy established and cleaned up. But when They have To be everything, they crap out.
Yup. People hate on Mellie because she said bitchy things and browbeat Fiz. Fiz was a manchild who deserved to be browbeat and worse. Mellie was the least trashy of the three and the only one trying to manage life like a grown up.
You can fight for fitz ,liv when this couple been already separated nd you know that you're not the reason why they got separated .thats an option for you to be with fitz avoiding yoursekf to ruin the rekationship ..yhats how i did before bcoz i have my family too nd i dont wanna hear calling me a home wrecker bcoz doux has his family too ..thats true love sacrificing your own happiness bcoz you dont want to destroy a family.but since they got separated i was too there is a an open opportunity for us to be with nd we are not the cause to ruin those previous relationship that we are supposedly preserving .i really love doux honestly ..hoping he will change for the better ..i am.wishing for to be with him for a lifetime serving nd worshipping God together happily 😎😍
Wow, good job Olivia, you took Fitz away from Millie who sacrificed everything to see him in the office (even her dignity), made her look like the villain, and then you basically just tell her that you just wanted to be the mistresses, I don't get Olivia anymore
Unbeliebubble X But that has ALWAYS been her motive. As with many of Shonda Rhimes female leads. Shonda even stated that the characters hold some part of her true self. The part where Shonda never wants to get married. And I get it and I agree. You give up parts of yourself when binding into the legal contracts we call marriage or fully committing yourself to someone. Olivia subconsciously or consciously never wanted that. Call it selfish, call it having your cake and eating it to. But it is the truth. She enjoyed her time with Fitz, on her time and when his time was convenient. She had the luxury of not being obligated like Mellie. And, lastly, throw as much hate on the 'selfish' Philosophy as you can, but the truth is many people want to be unscrutinizingly self-loving.
@@PlayaP69 It's because you get to only have fun and highly concentrated moments with the side piece. You're their Fun, their Freedom, their chance to unwind. Being the side piece means no real drama from real life, no harsh truths or stakes. With all the heavy she allows into her life, Olivia wants something easy and free for her relationship, but she has to have it on her terms and for it to be just the right piece to fit in her wild life (not to mention the mangled mess that was her life growing up).
@@SpankSandwitch99 Egggggactly! If life was "like a box of chocolates" (The new kind. Where you can see the one you want, the name of it, on the paper inside the top part! 😂), many of us would pick and choose what types of people we wanted, and choose how we wanted them irrespectively.
@Cherry Blossom Happiness nah this all started when Fitz's dad raped Mellie...she wouldnt tell Fitz..kept pushing him away..wouldnt let him touch her...then Olivia comes and fills the physical void that was missing in their marriage...Mellie shoulda told him or went to a therapist...
How do people not see how much Oliva deteriorates the more she got closer to getting a chance to be with the president?? That sht blows me. I mean her face, her demeanor. It is like someone whose wounds are open,infected, and sore.
I dont know why liv is insisting her part as a side chick to fitz despite he truth that fitz nd mellie are still living together as a couple..nd upon hearing the story mellie's reaction was funny ..of course she needs to protect fitz nd do to mke him unavailable to any side chick to avoid the destroying their relationship ...but somehow its fitz decision whom he wanted to be ..was this your story related doux ?😎
