Olympic gold medalist Caster Semenya discusses criticism about her body, discrimination 

More men stealing medals this time too ☹️

@@Michelle-vv9lk the Algerian situation is still unclear, I don’t think we have enough proof to believe she’s a he.

@@Michelle-vv9lkI don’t think you understand what’s going on.

@@IAMHERE486 I understand completely what’s going on dear 🙄

As Ben Shapiro said you can't magically change your gender. Gender Identity is not the same as your Biological Gender any scientist knows that. If you identify as female as a biological Male assigned at birth ,no surgery will magically change your XY chromosomes to suddenly become XX chromosomes. Note..If this person is female at birth and proven so than I say she is.

The women she ran against never looked like they "couldn't keep up" it's not protection of other women to be bullying her

"to falsely make this about gender identity and inclusion rather than physical advantage in an arena that is 100% about physical performance is gaslighting, frankly" Thank you for writing this. So true.

@@MSK-n Semenya has multiple gold medals and world records. So no, other women couldn't keep up. I don't approve of bullying. But your belief doesn't change that this is a fact that XY athletes have an advantage over XY women that XY women cannot make up for, regardless of how hard they train. The indisputable proof of this is that having this condition is EXTREMELY rare, like below .01% of people have it, yet there are multiple women with XY chromosomes winning at the top level of sports. In boxing right now, there are two, both winning gold (one about to win gold.) If it were a fair playing field then it would be EXTREMELY rare for intersex people with XY chromosomes to be competing at the elite level of sports, and only .01% of the women in elite sports would have this condition. But that is not the case. I don't pretend that there is a simple solution to this, as I recognize trans and intersex people's humanity and gender identities. As I said, it's not about gender identity, but biological sex advantages. I think it's disingenuous and gaslighting biological (XX) women who have sacrificed A LOT to compete at the top levels of sports, to tell them they're just biased and to shut up and deal with it as they go up against people who have an inherent advantage against them. This is favoring a tiny percentage of women and throwing 99.99% of women under the bus. It's misogynistic, even if the intention is not that and it comes from a good place to want to be inclusive. Social inclusion should not come at the cost of another marginalized group (women.) There is a reason they separated men and women in sports. XY bodies are more powerful than XX bodies, even at the same height and weight and when testosterone is suppressed. That is a scientific fact, no matter how inconvenient that is for those of us who support trans and intersex rights. But now that people are more free socially to identity with the gender they believe themselves to be, we have the issue of increasing incongruity between the sex of female elite athletes and the gender of these athletes. There has to be a more equitable solution to this problem than just telling biological women to shut their mouths, stop complaining, and take the L, or else they are bigots. That's bullying women with legitimate concerns.

@@MSK-n Oh, and after just looking up her races and seeing her narrowly win a race, it appears that the reason the second place finisher doesn't look like they "couldn't keep up" because SHE IS ALSO XY intersex. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pImKTAmfXuM.htmlfeature=shared The rest of the women, XX women, are left in the dust by those two. And again, XY intersex condition is VERY, VERY rare in the general population, but not at all rare in elite sports. Do you not think there is something wrong with intersex women with male biology dominating all other women in sports? This isn't about politics. It is about fairness. This is the #2 finisher in the clip above. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Wambui

She had an unfair advantage bro. Nothing to do w race.

He. He. He. Sucks.

Yeah but somehow she doesn't share the part of the story where she reveals who the father of her children is... Btw it's him and he cheated his way to success

@@user-ve7hn2dh8h I don’t think he intentionally cheated at first, he was raised as a girl and he didn’t know what was what until later. But now that he knows, he’s absolutely cheating.

Clown world

...but note it's biological/trans WM who usually want to participate against woman in sports. They won't give them any pushback, questioning, or undercover testing.

@@staywell7217 Exactly!

Exactly! This world is so crazy

She’s not a trans athlete

@@sck7503notice she said biological trans. Pay attention to the word biological, she was born that way, unlike the others who are wannabes

Why are you lying 😂😂

@@luzukombuqu4976 Not lies, it's science, but to the uneducated, one could see how it's difficult to understand.

​@@stevenbrozynski5555true science is also a strange word to the Woke media and the leftist ideologues in general.

Rubish

She lays out her position in her memoir, from which an edited extract has been published in the New York Times. “Even though I understand that those in the medical community call me an intersex person because of the way my internal organs are structured, I do not call myself intersex,” writes Semenya. Oct 26, 2023

Very interesting stuff, and I do agree it was unfortunate for this person to find out publicly, but with that said... why are we celebrating her "victories" when, technically, all the other female athletes have been robbed? This is akin to these so-called transformed wanting to compete against natural born females. The only measure fairness here would be if these type of athletes would be grouped and made to compete amongst themselves. The same goes for the trans athletes. I bet they won't do it.

THIS!! This is the most accurate and kindest explanation I've seen regarding Semenya. Why can't the news anchors have said as much. They've treated Semenya's case as very ambiguous by leaving out science and that was an editorial choice that has left the public confused and upset. Journalistic ethics and integrity require reporting the facts (one would hope and expect the SCIENTIFIC facts) rather than sentiment. We should have conpassion for Semenya, but also be clear that Semenya is male, not a "woman who appears masculine" or other confusing nonsense. We can be polite without lying or obfuscating reality.

Perfect explanation! The IOC has banned athletes who have the intersex condition called 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency competing in women's sports.

@@CharlesPetrizzi It is a very unfortunate situation for the athletes. However, I agree with the decision because persons with 5a-Reductase 2 deficiency are genetically male. 😔

​@@CharlesPetrizziThey should not be banned. They should have their own category or compete with men

Him

What you mean born a man?

1. she did not go through male puberty, with hypergonadism puberty is disrupted. 2. if she chose to take female hormones (she did in the past and she had adverse side affects) and she did go through male puberty, she would not have ‘the benefit of male puberty’ because the female hormones outweigh the male ones. this would mean reduced muscle mass, among other things.

@@kathermov caster has 5-ard and produces normal male levels of testosterone his only problem was a lack of dht that’s required to finish off development of genitalia. 5-ard is a male development issue when born but caster still has xy chromosomes and testicles and has always been male….anything else is just a lie! Some very severe questions need to be asked to the asa ….athletics South Africa in regards to the legitimacy of their test in and sanctions should be applied

@educational1651 well, i’m a genetics major

She actually is an XY DSD. She doesn't "have masculine features" as some sort of superficial anomaly. She had male puberty. She has 5 alpha reductase deficiency disorder. If you think she doesn't, please go change her wikipedia page and explain why the IAAF ruling which barred her competing applies to her when it explicitly only applies to XY athletes. Please....go ahead.

@@mastpgbut she was born a woman. She was not born with a penis. It was not her choice. It’s different if she took drugs but she did not cheat. She did not Choose to be born that way. She was born with a vagina which is female. She is different yes but it’s wrong the way she has been treated and insulting her and embarrassing her and her family. Sad world honestly.

@@mastpg so if a woman has that condition, but isn't a "trans woman", and has the athletic ability, what do they do? It must be a small category, and it doesn't mean they can compete as a man, so what is the solution? It seems like a waste of ability not to be allowed to compete at a high level.

@@craftsandstuff3349I honestly don’t know what the solution is. We need to be honest: she has the physical abilities of a man. I don’t know if you remember maybe 10 years ago, there was that trans female fighter who was beating the ever living crap out of every other female fighter. Forgot her name. One fight was so bad, the fans were begging the ref to stop it. It was actually hard to watch. It wasn’t a fight, it was an assault. Yes, I get it, Caster isn’t trans. But clearly she has a lot of male genetic traits and has an advantage no woman will be able to overcome. When you see her in her running outfit, physically, she’s a man. Now, did she break any rules? No. Is she a woman? Yes. I honestly don’t know what the answer is. But having her compete against other women would be no different than having a man compete against women. It upends the sport when she comes in and sets records no woman would ever touch in 100 years. It’s a situation that requires a lot of thought.

People actually recommended that you become a man because of your features? That’s crazy, I’m sorry you went through that.

FOH! Thats a guy. Listen to the interview without watching the video and all youre going to hear is a young man talking

​@@inblackamericaradio5409Giannis with braids😂

@@inblackamericaradio5409 grow up!

😂, please stop it.

WTF? 😂😂😂

Caster needs to compete against men. If he's not the best in the world it is ok. Most of us are not that fast. But at least he could live with honor, knowing that he has morals, ethics, and honesty, and is not trying to domination biological females.

​​@@monkeyb1820 but she is not a man. Isn't fair for her either. Is like if people just want to discriminate androgynous people. She is skilled in what she does, you suggest she must just stop doing sports then?? Itbis very selfish. Only because xx and xy are a mayority, doesn't give us the right to discriminate xxy, xyx, etc

@@fairuzmaileen5691would you be okay if she was competing against women in boxing? Or wrestling?

It's not unfair to other women that they can't defeat her. It just means those women need to train harder

@lindsa6911 1. Do you think male and female sports categories should exist? 2. If so, how should they be delineated? What do you think makes someone male (whether they have a difference of sexual development/DSD or not) and what do you think makes someone female? In other words, what do the words male and female mean to you at a technical, biological level? 3. In your mind does there exist any DSD that could be disqualifying, or do you think no DSD is significant where athletic performance is concerned?

​@lindsa6911 Yeah you wouldn't be saying this if your daughter was racing her.

​@@lindsa6911LMAO!! can't believe you just said that BS.

Every athlete who is competing against me is not fair as I am not athletic at all. What does this even mean “not fair “? Life is not fair, certain people have certain advantages. She was born with more testosterone, some are born with bigger muscle mass, some are born smarter than others. She’s a biological woman, she isn’t cheating in any way, she should be able to compete as she is. Should we also reduce high IQ of certain geniuses because it’s unfair advantage and they are competing against average people? I lived in communist regime where only average was accepted. Trust me, it’s an awful system.

really? lol

To power? Power of organising running races?

That's a dude

Agreed. Clearly, there was something distinctly different about Caster, and that difference (extra testosterone) gave her an advantage over bio women without that advantage. I'm sorry for what she went through, but I do understand that the officials were trying to make it fair for all.

DSD means that you are not either 100% male or 100% female. So therefore you are intersex. If you are intersex, you are not male or female but a different category. Therefore, it's hard to justify that you should compete in an entire male or female category of a sport. Unfortunately, there should just be another category for those with DSD.

Caster sounds like a male. If he was misidentified as a female at birth, it isn't his fault.

This situation is still developing. Give it time.

boy ....his book ....him. Grammar is important. It's important for accurate communication of facts.

This is a black man. He literally fathered 2 children…

This is a male🙄

​@@MrJm323she's not transgender, she's female with very high testosterone levels

​@@VenusManTrap-777that's crazy he fathered children

*brother

That is a man.

He is man...

Brother 😑

Like who? Give me an example of ten women that got questioned for being great...

That is not a woman.

@@all4right702 Here are your ten examples: Brittany Griner, Dutee Chand, Ewa Kłobukowska, Serena Williams, Venus Williams, Caster Semanya, Christine Mboma, Beatrice Masilingi, Margaret Wambui, and Mianne Bagger

@@missamy1001 and Christine mboma isn't a woman either

@@all4right702 Yes she is. And more examples would be Ciara and Grace Jones

And lack of integrity

That's a He right there

@@elizabethreina3753just like your mother

Not that simple.

Genetic male (XY Chromosomes) assigned female at birth, with intersex disorder. Ambiguous genitalia allows him to compete as a female.

...but unfortunately, her truth is fiction, as is always the case with people who use the capital G version. She was misassigned at birth and he we are. It's unfortunate, but she cannot fairly compete in her desired division of sport as she was born.

This is a man. I'm sorry

Nevertheless he didn't deserve the medals since competed against women.

I know an intersex man and was in the army with an intersex woman. This was back in the day before the trans phenomenon. The intersex male, he is externally male and found out of his condition when he and his wife couldn’t conceive and they did fertility testing on both of them. He is sterile. The woman, she was born with both sets of parts and the army was going to help her have the male parts removed. She was not trans! You would never in a million years had guessed. People were aware of the situation because she was granted more privacy prior to her operation. As far as everyone was concerned it was no one’s business and was handled very well. I’m writing this during the Olympics debacle around Iman Khelif and really feel for her because like caster she is getting lumped into the trans phenomenon, which is very unfair and cruel.

Through a sperm donor. Do some research and stop spreading false information.

God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

I- sir… 😂 the fact that she has female genitalia makes it IMPOSSIBLE that she ‘fathered’ her kids? How do u think the sperm gets out of testicles if someone doesn’t have a penis?

@michaelfimbres5691 @francisr.6791 Obviously there's such a thing as in vitro fertilization, so yes, Semenya could have fathered children that way. But I believe I once read that Semenya and wife adopted their children.

@@francisr.6791 caster has testicles and xy chromosomes so it’s a him just like South Africa knew all along but didn’t want to tell anyone

Wait what…she had kids lmao what

​@@MrAckers75his testicles are internal though, they never "fell"

She also has nowhere to compete because she expects special treatment and refuses to perform under the same conditions as all other XY athletes wishing to compete in the women's division.

Indeed she is so! That old devil try to win every time..NOT TODAY SATAN!!!🙏🏼❤️

@audreywilliams2228 ✋️stop. Until your female child runs into someone who has a whole different range of male hormones and has she now chance of competing fairly. What's the difference with males competing in female sports at this point? Whatever happened genitalia not determining gender? We have to be consistent. Then again we live in a world now where a Supreme Court candidate doesn't feel qualified enough to determine what a woman is? We're doomed.

​@@mastpgthat's a man

@@creek3205 5 alpha reductase deficiency disorder

The issue is he ddnt not choose to be a woman...his parents made a decision along with the doctors of the time...Caster did not choose to be seen as a woman..

@@ShaqleeToine10.02 : We don't care what he sees in himself. He is still a dude. It's either male or female. The society is so F up & people just pretend it's nothing.

Did you sleep together?????

@@LICIOUS0777 : Why ask?

In my mind, it violates HIPPA to test a patient without their consent. And release their blood test information to the media. These Olympic doctors are scary.

I think it's interesting that this woman has naturally more testosterone than the average woman which in turn gives her all of the advantages that you've mentioned thereby putting all other women at a disadvantage (supposedly) but no one blinks an eye when a man might produce more testosterone than another man thereby giving him the same advantages because a biological advantage in men''s sport is something to be celebrated.

😢condition? Is she sick

​@@thobekanala5059no she's not sick just different

You can tell just by looking she has higher levels of testosterone. I knew that before Gayle mentioned it. It's more common than one would think

Indeed! She was winning a lot though. I think the American will break the record in the 800m category

Caster has a wife and has FATHERED biological children the 'natural' way..

@@JW-ko6gq exactly, THANK YOU. The ignorance around this subject is astounding to me, and cheaters like him are benefiting from that ignorance.

@@Everblesstasha9798 not a woman

I was thinking the same thing!

Funny how the Tone change now. By the 2024- olympiagame in the boxing cathegorie. They are letting a biologic man with XY Chromosom fight against a biologic woman because the "man" said that he feels like a woman 😂😂😂😂 very insane !

Biological sex and sexual development are far more complicated than you learned in high school. There are many people with chromosomal abnormalities who grow up as one sex with no idea of their condition. There are many people with physiological or hormonal intersex conditions who have ordinary XX or XY chromosomes. The oversimplified version of this that we teach to children should not inform policies or destroy careers. Educate yourself.

Because she presents with female gentilia. She comes from a rural area in South Africa..Intersex isn't a thing and not looked out for ..so yes

Theres women out there with deep voice and muscular physiques out there so 🤷‍♀️Martina Natrinova looked 'manly' too so it happens. But in Caster case she wasn't malicious about it like some of these Trans women are..she really didn't know

⁠@@ashlouw5350you forgot to mention the testicles. Pretty hard for a person to “not know” they have those.

Caster is a woman with reproductive organs. It's cake Hyperadrogeny

4 real

If that research is out there, as you've claimed, and not simply conjecture from others, then I'm sure there will be people making the rounds on the media refuting 'her' book and invalidating 'her' in totality.

Well said!

His* he fathered 2 kids

@@VenusManTrap-777 What? She has female parts.

​@@CB-hn6eiboth parts.

@flourish_today hawu!!! How do u know that?

That's a MAN

Has NEVER seen… I remember watching the race where another runner, I can’t remember who, said in her interview that Caster Symenia wasn’t a woman. Caster’s carrier has been clouded by this controversy and she doesn’t deserve it for sure. I love that she’s made it out the other side on this. I often look her up to see how her career had been going.

Cause that’s a man

Could be possible

This isn't about a deep voice. This is about XX vs XY and unfair advantages.

Caster Semenya has internal testicles, no uterus and no ovaries

Just like you

She still prettier than you tho 😂😂😂

She was born with XY chromosomes but she is more gifted in strength than other females. There are loads of people who look manly but because they are not in some kind of sports but they are not questioned. Just leave Caster alone. Xx

@@nikkysings5844 "Just leave Caster alone." As soon as he returns the medals denied to the actual women victors.

⁠@@nikkysings5844This is an oxymoron “XY” and “She” don’t go together.

​@@nikkysings5844Was she born with XY chromosome? Source for this please?

Okay but this person has both so what we do? 💀

His voice.

Yes, many men tend to have strong, resonant voices.

​@@Verity_Truth666 cry

voice developed thru male-like levels of testosterone

🤮🤮🤮

Exactly! This is a man!!

Exactly some much other stuff 2 worry about

💯

*he *himself

Male xy chromosomes don’t lie

He, himself.