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The Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch: a brilliant watch that offers unrivaled heritage at an affordable price. But there's a HUGE question... should you get one with a Hesalite crystal-or a sapphire one?
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@watchfinder
@watchfinder Год назад
We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder
@mrluvit8232
@mrluvit8232 11 месяцев назад
thanks for this lesson...do u have a video on ceramic?
@numberstation
@numberstation 6 лет назад
Before deciding on a watch, I always hit it with a hammer. If it doesn’t break, it’s a keeper.
@user-ec2kd8sz3t
@user-ec2kd8sz3t 5 лет назад
Does the dealer provide a hammer to test the watch in their shop or do you have to bring your own? It would seem more convenient if they kept a test hammer on hand...
@alinpadurariu4987
@alinpadurariu4987 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@chu1103
@chu1103 4 года назад
i guess you have many g shock
@xmaverickhunterkx
@xmaverickhunterkx 4 года назад
You'll have to buy each broken watch too, tho
@blacksquirrel4008
@blacksquirrel4008 4 года назад
In the early days of the diamond boom in Brazil a buyer saw a guy hitting rocks on an anvil. Asked what he was doing he said he was “testing” the diamonds, since they were the hardest materials. The buyer then explained that he had just destroyed a fortune in diamonds since that’s not what hardest means.
@mubblemann
@mubblemann 6 лет назад
The fact the sapphire version comes with a clear exhibition rear is starting to tempt me.
@euanlake2569
@euanlake2569 5 лет назад
Mubble Mann absolutely - this is a big (compelling factor) that’s not discussed in the video.
@nsebast
@nsebast 5 лет назад
Yep it's much prettier to look at.
@EdwardChen0
@EdwardChen0 5 лет назад
Or the out of production Hesalite crystal and sapphire case back model, best of both worlds.
@wpi6705
@wpi6705 5 лет назад
But it costs 800€ more
@bushpig6837
@bushpig6837 4 года назад
If only you could try before you buy. The sapphire display back sticks to the wrist like a limpet. It really sucks.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
Sapphire is the best for a regular person and every day wear. Because it is scratches that are the number one problem for watches today, and this is where sapphire shines. Yes it can shatter, but I have yet to shatter a sapphire, and I have knocked them quite hard on metal beams. My acrylic watch has not only been scratched but also cracked by a blow
@KRBY555
@KRBY555 6 лет назад
wrong
@imrichbitch.1937
@imrichbitch.1937 6 лет назад
Watch Geek Well said.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
James Ash earning for a living 😉
@scottfulps2065
@scottfulps2065 6 лет назад
And what is 'wrong'? Everything Watch Geek said is spot on correct.
@RSVillains
@RSVillains 6 лет назад
Absolutely correct! Thanks!
@Drjfever
@Drjfever 4 года назад
I chose hesalite 7 years ago. No regrets. It has a unique, liquid-like look. Beautiful.
@dhannylil2191
@dhannylil2191 2 года назад
how's the scratch?
@karlwagner8905
@karlwagner8905 Год назад
I wish they had one with hesalite on the front and saphire on the back :(
@ALIOS51
@ALIOS51 Год назад
@@karlwagner8905 there is actually one, I can't remember the reference, but they made a hesalite-sapphire sandwich
@krystian2678
@krystian2678 Год назад
@@ALIOS51 Ref. 3572.50 called hesalite sandwich.
@krystian2678
@krystian2678 Год назад
@@rlgh2867 Pollywatch can remove all scratches. I've been using it for last 4 years and i'm able to make hesalite look like new every time i use it.
@Wussag
@Wussag 6 лет назад
No right answer, no wrong answer. I went with the Sapphire on my Speedmaster, you may prefer the Hesalite. Whichever you choose, you get a top quality, very cool watch.
@a.h.badran8589
@a.h.badran8589 5 лет назад
Well said
@car2004
@car2004 4 года назад
Nope. Hesalite is shit. Even the stores I have gone to have watches (seemingly new) with hesalite that are ALREADY with smudges, scratches, and wear and tear. It’s a watch, not a painting. You wear the watch. It would be like wearing Silk T-shirts for your workouts. Good luck with it lasting one use.
@car2004
@car2004 4 года назад
Wicker _ I don’t know where you are from, but NO store buys several watches for display only. They sell you what you see.
4 года назад
@@car2004 The more logical answer being that Omega fondle their watches before leaving the factory.. ?
@JimzAuto
@JimzAuto 4 года назад
Fry Guy I have a silk turtleneck that’s lasted 20+ years. Hand-wash only of course, but WOW it feels great and keeps in the body heat.
@PhinallyWC08
@PhinallyWC08 5 лет назад
I thought I wanted the sapphire speedy because of the exhibition case back, but as soon as I saw held the two of them side by side, in person, the decision was obvious. The only choice is Hesalite. The sapphire changes the entire look of the dial. It's harder to tell from video, but in person the difference is night and day
@Taurian_
@Taurian_ 3 года назад
This x100. Just bought a hesalite pro after holding it, the sandwich, and an FOIS in my hands. The “milky ring” doesn’t seem as if it’d mean much in these vids, but when you see it in person, it is SO stark. There are times I wish my pro had a harder glass, but the look of it with the hesalite is so perfect. Yes, it’s an aesthetic concern, but to those saying they’re not going to the moon so they’ll choose sapphire, PLEASE go visit an dealer first.
@AcmeRocket
@AcmeRocket 2 года назад
100%
@nameisunavailable82
@nameisunavailable82 6 лет назад
Mine is the sapphire version and I love it. The hesalite model also has its advantages, no doubt, but as a daily watch it is important for me that it is scratch resistant.
@gmoneyb5559
@gmoneyb5559 2 года назад
Same. Sapphire sandwich is way to go. Who cares what purists say
@SavedbybGrace
@SavedbybGrace Год назад
Agree. My 3861 Speedy Pro and ‘57 are both SS.
@dustycups
@dustycups 5 лет назад
I just like polishing the hesalite occasionally and making it all shiny and new again. An experience that you don't get with sapphire. Kind of matches nicely with the whole idea of enjoying hand wound watches in the modern era - we like that they need regular attention.
@shadowgolem9158
@shadowgolem9158 2 года назад
Something to consider is that, in this video, they used a very cheap and soft acrylic. The acrylic used in most expensive watches is much more scratch resistant. The various names indicate different formulations with different properties. Some of them could actually take a hammer hit without breaking (thicker polycarbonate for example).
@thesceptic1018
@thesceptic1018 7 лет назад
The sapphire back on the non-hesalite Moonwatch allows the very pretty chrono movement to be viewed.
@watchfinder
@watchfinder 7 лет назад
It's possible to do, but the movement in the display back version is aesthetically different. The standard movement has a 'delrin' plastic brake that's replaced for metal in the display back version.
@lettuce1305
@lettuce1305 6 лет назад
Best of both worlds is the 3572 or 3592 which are no longer in production, hesalite front but sapphire back with cal.1863 (cal.863 for the 3592).
@Richard.Andersson
@Richard.Andersson 6 лет назад
I own the 3592 with Hesalite front and Sapphire back. You can watch it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OpL6oMeAclc.html
@abajaj1510
@abajaj1510 3 года назад
@@watchfinder even in the 3861 , are they still using the plastic brake?
@barnpicks8884
@barnpicks8884 3 года назад
I bought the Hesalite a month ago no regrets! Dial so clear with a touch of a vintage look and i feel like im in the 60’s buzzin with armstrong. You’ve got to be ballsy to wear one
@avarmauk
@avarmauk 2 года назад
The hesalite has this milky tone when it reflects light. I absolutely love that vs the glare a sapphire gives off.
@mannycalavera2335
@mannycalavera2335 5 лет назад
Partly due to this video, I was certain I wanted to pick up the sapphire sandwich version. I got the opportunity to compare the two versions (005 and 006 references) and in the end opted for the hesalite. I just found the gradual dome and the way the dial looks more pleasing on the hesalite version. Even after I made the purchase I was still in doubt because I had heard so much about scratches on hesalite. Though now, after 6 months of wearing I realize it was made out to be a bigger issue than it actually is. The Speedy is my daily wearer and I have only felt the need to polish once so far. Too much is made out of something that takes 10 minutes out of your year to resolve with normal (daily) use.
@RaymondLo84
@RaymondLo84 3 года назад
Yup, and if you somehow clipped the sapphire it's game over... I will just polish and move on! :)
@freegibran
@freegibran 2 года назад
I purchased a sapphire sandwich today, the A.D has sold out of the hesalite version. But I’m not complaining, I can’t wait to put it in my wrist.
@atifch84
@atifch84 7 лет назад
Bravo Watchfinder, this video will be an asset to anyone entering the watch community.
@watchfinder
@watchfinder 7 лет назад
Thanks very much!
@dbadgones
@dbadgones 4 года назад
There's something about your videos, everything's clean, clear, perfect, the details, background music, I just love to watch them, keep on like that!
@joa2944
@joa2944 7 лет назад
Thank you very much for an educational comparison between the Sapphire Vs Hesalite. Great Review
@daveg7878
@daveg7878 5 лет назад
If I were going into space, Hesalite is the way. If it were just a historical piece for me, again Hesalite. For me, going into space isn't likely. I love that I can wear Sapphire crystal watches and they stay looking new for a very long time. Call it a compromise but I'll take Sapphire any day. Also, this was a great video, well done!
@hidayatjoe
@hidayatjoe 4 года назад
This was really a really good opinion! Agreed!
@SavedbybGrace
@SavedbybGrace Год назад
Same.
@Beck-Stein
@Beck-Stein Год назад
I’ve been on the moon twice and both times i used a hesalite crystal watch. It came in handy from shattering being chased my aliens on the moon.
@Andrestander124
@Andrestander124 5 лет назад
I have a 2003 omega Seamaster. It has s sapphire crystal face. I have worn it pretty much everyday for 15 years. Never managed to scratch it. I have had the rest of the watch polished for scratches 3 times in the same period. I would always choose the sapphire.
@scbond
@scbond 3 месяца назад
Depends on the quality of the artificial sapphire. I’ve had sapphire crystals pick up minor scratches from my sleeves.
@DiscoR53
@DiscoR53 5 лет назад
I’m not going to the moon so it’s going to be sapphire.
@FV4030
@FV4030 6 лет назад
Would be interesting to see the sales figures for Hesalite Speedys vs Sapphire ones.
@JimzAuto
@JimzAuto 4 года назад
FV4030 Can’t the crystal be switched between types?
@jarrodgillen5098
@jarrodgillen5098 4 года назад
JimzAuto Any piece of a watch can be replaced.
@joeschlicht
@joeschlicht 3 года назад
@@JimzAuto no, they cannot.
@Kilimanjahro
@Kilimanjahro Год назад
@@joeschlicht Why would you think so? Do you think that omega used different moles for each version, up to the case as well?
@joeschlicht
@joeschlicht Год назад
@@Kilimanjahro I read somewhere that they cannot be interchanged. That was for the previous generation. I believe it's the same for the current as well.
@duckmcf
@duckmcf 4 года назад
I’ve had a few plexiglass watches as well as a few sapphires and other than what was detailed in this review here’s what I’ve discovered. Sapphire is a smudge magnet, and Hesalite isn’t. Scratches in Hesitate clean up beautifully with Polywatch. My Speedy Pro crystal dates back to 2006 and still looks great. If Sapphire breaks, it a mandatory full service as those sapphire shards get everywhere. Here in Oz that runs to ~A$1000 (~US$700).
@grimmer2005
@grimmer2005 5 лет назад
Hesalite was for short use, and for not shattering in space. For us normal mortals, living in gravity and using the watch everyday as a regular watch. Sapphire is the absolute best alternative. It both looks better, and gives more security, and dont get scratches, and dont get yellowed by age.
@bohun28
@bohun28 5 лет назад
"Looks better" is entirely subjective. For me, the hesalite version looks better. I acknowledge the superiority of sapphire for everyday use by regular people...but then it also depends on how often the watch will be worn and in what circumstances. If it's an everyday wear then sapphire for sure. If you're wearing it out only occasionally and to events where it's less likely to be treated roughly then it's whichever one you prefer the look of that should be the winner.
@mannycalavera2335
@mannycalavera2335 4 года назад
Personally I prefer the look of plexiglass/hesalite/acrylic over sapphire. Not just on the Speedmaster but on many retro-design and vintage watches. It is entirely subjective, but too many people feel that way to state sapphire flat out looks better.
@traviskoh999
@traviskoh999 3 года назад
Knock a sapphire on a door knob or wall and it'll look better.
@omniryx1
@omniryx1 7 лет назад
There are a couple of misleading elements in this video. First, the information regarding the manufacturing processes for sapphire crystals is out of date. It is entirely possible to fabricate sapphire crystals that do not suffer the shortcomings pointed out in the video. Second, and more important, is the relative significance of the weaknesses of the two materials. It is far, far more likely that an acrylic crystal will suffer abrasions and scratches as well as ultraviolet discoloration (which was not mentioned in the video), than that a sapphire crystal will shatter.
@Memovox
@Memovox 6 лет назад
Ok, you Crazy conspiracy theorist. Just remember one thing; Always get your MOTFM in the automatic triple-date version. Preferably a Michael Schumacher edition.
@Memovox
@Memovox 6 лет назад
Aaron mughal . Nice strawman argument there. Anyway: Get the Triple-date Schummi version. It will make you a happier person in general and your horological journey more enjoyable. And we have lift-off! Please enjoy.
@Memovox
@Memovox 6 лет назад
Aaron mughal . No worries, Mate. You are young, there's still time. Tik Tok.. And when you finally get your MOTFM Schummi you too will be enlightened.
@Memovox
@Memovox 6 лет назад
Aaron mughal . When MOTF gets to boring/mainstream (which it is) I always recommend a Sinn 103 st. If you are looking for a classic chronograph, this watch will not disappoint you. The quality and finishing is very high.
@MrVaeron
@MrVaeron 6 лет назад
We werent to the moon, cause the earth is flat like a pizza! And that they would have realized while in space, so everything is hoax about rockets!
@UXXV
@UXXV 7 лет назад
Such a well put together and voiced video!
@polarroller
@polarroller 7 лет назад
Great comparison review. I go for Sapphire as the choice for all watches except for the Man on the Moon. It's totally got to be Hesalite. A nod of respect to the real Moon watch. I also love the distortion Hesalite brings to the table when looking at a dial from an angle. Once again......Hesalite for the Moon Watch, Sapphire for all other watches IMO.
@markxxxwinter
@markxxxwinter 7 лет назад
I've got the hesalite on my moon watch. Brilliant watch.
@polarroller4848
@polarroller4848 7 лет назад
Hi Mark. I only have a vintage Omega dress watch in yellow gold, really cool purple dial from early 1950's. I really like the Speedy MOTM but I've not purchased one. I really need a date window on my watches. I use this feature constantly during my office work. Also what's a watch collection without such an iconic watch as Omega's Moon watch? Right now Omega has the best prices ever for a Moon watch from grey market dealers such as Watchmaxx or Jomashop. I would buy one but just spent my watch money I work for and save up funds for over a few years. The opportunity came up for a new Rolex 43mm Sea Dweller, red line, no wait list, not a penny over Rolex MSRP plus free shipping from a Rolex AD. I jumped on that immediately and have this awesome watch on my wrist today. That said, my watch pool savings is back to $0.00, so no Omega Moon watch for me for a couple years. But Hesalite is the way to go. You have a steel stunner, and I wish I had one! Kudos!
@jonr5886
@jonr5886 5 лет назад
Seems the decision can be made by answering two questions: 1) Are you planning on venturing into outer space and worried for potential shards in your spacesuit? 2) Do you plan on spending most of your time staring at you watch from the edge? An answer in the affirmative to either suggests you may prefer Hesalite. You might feel the "milky band" around the circumference of the sapphire would be a detractor but wait until you get that first scratch from a gentle breeze across the face of the Hesalite.
@scbond
@scbond 3 месяца назад
Here’s someone who doesn’t own either watch 😂
@seanhuynh5184
@seanhuynh5184 3 года назад
Can’t unsee the milky ring now
@rbarrington8911
@rbarrington8911 7 лет назад
Hesalite hands down for me. The dome looks so much better, also feels more true to the original.
@mauriciolacruz
@mauriciolacruz 6 лет назад
Well, if you want the original, get the acrilic. But there will always be improvements in the industry and, you like it or not, the zapphire is an improvement over the acrilic. I always tend to prefer the improvements over the "originals". Regards.
@lamaludwig1470
@lamaludwig1470 6 лет назад
You're thinking black or white. Not a sign of intelligence if you ask me.
@mauriciolacruz
@mauriciolacruz 6 лет назад
I'm not thinking black or white, it's just a matter of tastes. And by the way, my IQ is over 200. Regards.
@DS..69
@DS..69 6 лет назад
mauricio lacruz Then you will never be true to the original. Mines acrylic. Take that. Lol
@omarsaletovicprins9632
@omarsaletovicprins9632 6 лет назад
Dapdoi Ardon hehehehe
@ChiTownTx
@ChiTownTx 6 лет назад
I have actually owned both (at the same time) oddly enough. Ended up sticking with the Hesalite. I love how sapphire doesn't scratch but the Hesalite is easily repaired with Polywatch. In the end it came down to looking at the face of the watch. On my sapphire model it had a large milky white ring around the outside of the dial. This is due to the thickness of the sapphire crystal itself. Probably wouldn't bother most but it bugged me. Also the dial just wasn't as interesting/clear to look at vs the Hesalite. At different angles the dial kind of dances around a bit. The Hesalite model is also much lighter since it doesn't have 2 sapphire crystals weighing it down (sapphire model has a display back). I never cared about watch weight until I realized how much it can affect where the watch sits on your wrist. I hate a watch that slides around all over the place (prefer a tight fit) and with the Hesalite model being lighter it stayed on my wrist where I wanted it much easier than the latter.
@BSMOWaterfowl
@BSMOWaterfowl 2 года назад
Thanks for a great comment. This made me feel better about my most recent purchase
@sparqqling
@sparqqling 2 года назад
The dome shape is a key design feature, hesalite it is!
@receptayyip1410
@receptayyip1410 2 года назад
So you also don't mind scratched eye glasses because you have Polywatch? Honestly?
@matts6551
@matts6551 Год назад
@@receptayyip1410 if you’re so afraid of scratching things, don’t wear them, same goes for eyeglasses. These are items made for using, not safe queens
@allmyinterests5139
@allmyinterests5139 Год назад
I used to like sapphire more, but now its def acrylic. At first it looks way smoother and more oldschool to me (which I like in mech/auto watches), secondly it is less reflective without AR coating. It also got its own "shimmering" going on. And I usually take care of my watches, so I never had the issue with scratches. But even if so, you can simply polish them out a few times and if it is too bad of a scratch, acrylic is really cheap to change, so not a big deal.. I think they both have their pros and cons but over all you have decide on your own what you like more. I really like the aesthetics of the acrylic. Only watches where I clearly prefer sapphire are Rolexes/Pateks because of their overall super-clean look, which sapphire fits better to.
@robertfitzgerald1116
@robertfitzgerald1116 4 года назад
I have worn my Speedmaster Hesalite watch for ten years.On occasion I will use Polywatch to remove scratches.About five years ago I did manage to put a deep scratch in the crystal I showed it to my trusted watch repair guy and he polished the face with a polishing wheel all good as new.He did tell me if needed the Hesalite crystal could replaced not a big deal.
@mortuzak
@mortuzak 11 месяцев назад
That glass break in the end gave me goosebumps, such an informative and awesome video with that banger of an ending
@cardiaccoder9622
@cardiaccoder9622 2 года назад
Hesalite does scratch and scuff easily but keep in mind that it’s also pretty easy to polish out most scratches on your own
@mortuzak
@mortuzak 11 месяцев назад
I'm seeing all you saying about polishing out the hesalite...how do you polish the hesalite back to it's former glory?
@daffidavit
@daffidavit 5 лет назад
I got my Speedmaster in 1969 as a gift for my 17th BD about 10 days after Apollo 11 landed on the moon with Buzz Aldrin wearing his Speedmaster as the first watch on the moon. Neil Armstrong left his Speedy hanging on the LEM's instrument panel. Rumor had it that the built-in Bulova clock in the LEM needed some help so Neil took his Speedmaster off his wrist and hanged it (not hung it) on the instrument panel. My Speedmaster was built around October 1968 as far as I can determine so it was built before Buzz was the first person to wear a watch on the Moon. It is one of the early .861 models. The first moon watches had the .321 Lamania movements, the same design as the Patek Philippe watches. I've heard the .321 movement was more expensive to make but was not quite as accurate as the newer, but less costly .861 models that began selling after the fall of 1968. Omega Museum can you please confirm this "fact". The beat frequency was upgraded from 18 kHz to 22 KHz and an extra jewel was added to the newer .861 model. Also, a plastic piece was added to the movement. Although more efficient, and thus cheaper to make the .861 movement was deemed more accurate. However, the original "moon watch" was a .321 Omega Speedmaster Professional. The word "Professional" was added to the watch's faceplate after it was discovered that Ed White wore an Omega Speedmaster during the first moon walk before the watch was certified for outer space by NASA. Years later, the .861 was upgraded to the .1861 version which is essentially a .861 except the parts are "Rhodium Plated". The parts were dipped into a protective coating for longevity purposes. I don't know if any .861 Speedys ever made it to the moon's surface. I've asked the Omega Museum this question and they are still investigating as of a few years ago. I'm still waiting for an answer. I'm sure the .861 was used by NASA astronauts at some time after Apollo 11, but nobody I've asked can supply the answer. The question has been referred to the Omega Museum. I've posted the question to the Omega Museum as follows: " When was the first time a .861 Omega Master Professional went into outer space". So far, I have not gotten a response. If anybody knows the answer, please advise. Finally, everything I've stated above was from my recollection. I have not double checked my facts so I can not guarantee the accuracy of what I've stated above. I believe I'm correct, but I can't confirm it. So please don't copy and paste the above as if it were Gospel. I do certify that I've stated the above with all due respect to the Omega Museum. In fact, I would like the fine people at the Omega Museum to double check my facts and correct them where necessary and answer my question about when was the first time a .861 Speedmaster went into outer space. I compliment the above video producers for their fine work. I will say that the original Hesalite cover on my original Speedmaster was very soft and was easily gouged and scratched. When I sent my Speedy back for a "tune-up" to Omega in N.Y.C. sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, they gave me a newer, tougher and more scratch resistant Hesalite cover. It is still Acrillic, but much tougher than the original from 1968. This is another fact that only somebody who has owned a Speedy for 50 years can attest to.
@robvilla622
@robvilla622 5 лет назад
You have a glaring error in your write up. Ed White did not wear a Speedmaster during the first moon walk! He died along with Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee on the launch pad during a test in 1967 on board Apollo 1 that was supposed to be the first manned Apollo mission. He did wear a Speedmaster during the first US SPACEWALK aboard Gemini 4 though!
@andysmith1996
@andysmith1996 4 года назад
"Neil took his Speedmaster off his wrist and hanged it (not hung it) on the instrument panel." No, he hung it on the instrument panel. "Hanged" is reserved for death by hanging.
@jolness1
@jolness1 2 года назад
I love the look of the hesalite, the warm tinge looks the part on a retro watch but I don't know if I could deal with the compromises for my personal usage. Been mulling this over for a bit and still can't decide.
@daiwatkins1984
@daiwatkins1984 7 лет назад
for true space fans there's only one option. hesalite. then get some polywatch.
@kermez9
@kermez9 6 лет назад
Dai Watkins to be more precise, only one option is 105.012 with 321 movement, everything else is not a moonwatch.
@Sourcedeep1
@Sourcedeep1 6 лет назад
True space fans would choice the best possibility that technology offers. If sapphire evolved in a way that it would be less breakable just like glass did, then that's it. The choice would be sapphire.
@riccardobot4286
@riccardobot4286 6 лет назад
Tech Iff if you want a Speedmaster in step with the times, then buy the automatic one with Co-Axial movement. Do you say this doesn't work in space? I'm not a physicist, but I can tell you that you'll never go there...
@u.u.u9969
@u.u.u9969 5 лет назад
Hesalite = 4cylider cloth seats base model Saphire = v6 leather seats, moon roof full package
@stefangrubesic2708
@stefangrubesic2708 4 года назад
I'm admiring watches less than 24 hours now. So I'm a noob. But my take is that on any other watch than the Moonwatch I'd take the sapphire, it's more resistant on a daily basis and it has the clear back so you can see the movement work which is beautiful. But, on a Moonwatch I'd have the Hesalite, simly because that's how it was up there on the Moon and it has that inscription "Flight-qualified by NASA for all manned space missions", I'm a space nerd so that's really important to me 🤷🏻‍♂️😁 Edit: I guess you'd say that if it's really important to me to have a watch like the ones that were on the Moon I should buy 105.012 with the caliber 312 but my take is that vintage watches are like classic cars. Yeah they're beautiful to look at and they hold a special place in the hearts of gearheads but they don't handle that good in the corners and they would benefit with 100 more PS. What I like about watches is that manufacturers sell you "the restomods", if you want an Alfa Romeo restomod you go to Alfaholics not to Alfa Romeo but if you want "an Omega Speedmaster restomod" you go to Omega, they still sell it but modernized
@ryanagahee5045
@ryanagahee5045 4 года назад
Lol you have no clue what your talking about. Not to be harsh, but classic watches can tell time much better than classic cars can turn corners... vintage watches will always be useful and never go out of style.
@peterlewis3540
@peterlewis3540 6 лет назад
Originality, as the watches worn by the Apollo astronauts, were Hesalite plastic, as they were deemed far safer in a zero gravity environment. A Hesalite plastic, will not shatter or splinter like a more expensive Sapphire crystal. The fact that none of us are going into outer space any day soon, means a Sapphire crystal model will be far more robust, and will not scratch or get damaged in every day use. If originality bothers you, get the plastic Hesalite, if you just want the best Speedmaster, go for the Sapphire.
@Stigstigster
@Stigstigster 5 лет назад
@@aaronmughal1493 Said the moon landing denier... It's like saying the pyramids of Egypt are fake. The level of evidence is about the same.
@Stigstigster
@Stigstigster 5 лет назад
@@aaronmughal1493 Firstly, I would like to stop calling each other nutters and I apologise for starting that. Can you give me your top reason (I know moon landing deniers have many) for disbelieving? Not a massive list, but one piece of evidence we can discuss, if you are interested in talking about it of course.
@rickj8859
@rickj8859 6 лет назад
If you wear your Speedy Pro daily to work, even in the office based environment, the hardened plexi-glass does wear easily and you will end up with minor scratches in no time at all. As well, it is only the sapphire glass Speedy, that is supplied with an exhibition back and cal.1863 movement.
@ErikS-
@ErikS- 4 года назад
7:05 great way of scientifically testing the difference in hardness of the material😉
@rjy8960
@rjy8960 6 лет назад
Hesalite on my Speedy MAAAANONAFAAACKINMOOON! and sapphire on my Planet Ocean 8900 :) Polywatch is your friend! I've had my Speedy for over three years, worn it quite a lot and it's absolutely perfect - Not a single mark on it. Polywatch is also BRILLIANT for cleaning up scratched acrylic windows on electronic kit as well. It's seriously good stuff!
@PLAIDventures
@PLAIDventures 4 года назад
You won't regret the hesalite... the distortion is beautiful!
@helisoma
@helisoma 4 года назад
I was torn between these options and even though I prefer the idea of scratch-resistant crystal and the crystal window to view the beautiful movement, I still prefer the look of the original, and don't like the distracting "ring" inside the bezel that the outer perimeter of the crystal creates. If it is relatively easy to replace the hesalite with an OEM one then I don't mind doing that every couple of years or so. So I purchased the hesalite.
@nsebast
@nsebast 6 лет назад
I chose the sapphire. It's just prettier, more scratch resistant and you have the clear case back to watch the awesome movement. Cant beat those.
@FictualKyle
@FictualKyle 6 лет назад
Note to self: Never block a hammer strike with watch, block with forearm instead.
@ThomasLobker
@ThomasLobker 5 лет назад
I wish you would have done some more scratch testing before you smashed them. I'm always wondering if the sapphire crystal on my Speedmaster '57 will survive a good sweep against a brick wall. In my opinion, the chances of fracturing the crystal are a lot smaller than the chances of scratching them. So for me, the sapphire was the right choice. It will stay clean and shiny for the rest of your life.
@lane2063
@lane2063 2 года назад
My daily work watch for decades was a relatively inexpensive Tag Carrera with a sapphire crystal. That Watch took a beating. When I finally retired and took it in for a much needed service they told me that the crystal was chipped. I was surprised to see it but you needed a loop. I let them replace the crystal since the watch was going to be in a much safer environment. I don’t recall that it was horribly expensive. My advice is wear and enjoy your watch without hyper concern. The only watch I treat carefully is my Monaco Gulf. My Moonwatch has the hesalite crystal because of authenticity and I’m not overly cautious with it and haven’t had any issues.
@dfgvegas
@dfgvegas 6 лет назад
Watchfinder & Company you have a new sub... I extremely enjoy these presentations very, very informative as well as educational. Thanks for the knowledge
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc 7 лет назад
7:08 onwards.. so satisfying....mmm.....
@SahasV
@SahasV 5 лет назад
Song 🎶 name??!
@pikaso6586
@pikaso6586 5 лет назад
Hesalite -> You are boarding on the Shuttle, next stop: the Moon Sapphire -> You are waiting for the next train to go to your 9-5 work Your choice.
@im_bentongaming4193
@im_bentongaming4193 5 лет назад
I'd rather take the train to work then almost die in space
@woodpush4element
@woodpush4element 4 года назад
Im_Benton Gaming Than* (unless of course you want to go to work and THEN almost die afterwards) 🤷🏻‍♂️
@im_bentongaming4193
@im_bentongaming4193 4 года назад
@@woodpush4element No one likes a smartass, I am only 13. Common mistake.
@ronch550
@ronch550 6 лет назад
Well, since I'm not going to the moon any time soon, sapphire for me.
@kirkguerrero8958
@kirkguerrero8958 5 лет назад
Purchased mine two weeks and got the original moonwatch.
@masonkim7
@masonkim7 5 лет назад
4:18 that's all you have to see in this video. and he wasn't even scraping it too hard.
@scbond
@scbond 3 месяца назад
Was also just a cheap acrylic crystal and not the hesalite crystal from an Omega, which is a lot harder and more scratch resistant.
@keesketsers5866
@keesketsers5866 Год назад
I wore a plexi Rolex for years, never occured to me that it scratched. In years of wear I've never seen a real scratch on it and never polished it either. And I'm very hard on watches. It's less of a big deal than you would think. Way more important is if you like the look of plexi/hesalite.
@is1dre
@is1dre 6 лет назад
Sapphire hands down. Scratches on hesalite will drive you nuts. Jus t look at it and it gets scratched.
@Stigstigster
@Stigstigster 5 лет назад
I am a plumber by trade and have worn a Moonwatch to work for 15 years with a Hesalite crystal. I am only on my second crystal, my current one being 6 years old. They hold up surprisingly well and I never did any damage that I could not polish out with good results. If you are a grit blaster by trade then maybe the Hesalite will fail for you and be wrecked but a plumber's hands get pretty worn whilst my watch crystals have survived. They are relatively inexpensive to replace when compared to sapphire as well. Hesalite may very well surprise you. Now, if the tiniest of scratches on a watch drive you mad, the sapphire is an absolute must but my acrylic crystals have surprised me again and again over the years with their toughness and ability to have scratches polished out.
@TankEsq
@TankEsq 5 лет назад
That Sapphire shattered like my heart when you broke those
@londonoverground
@londonoverground 6 лет назад
Acrylic can be polished back to look almost new and is also a lot cheaper to replace if you shatter it. If you shatter the sapphire the shards can scratch your dial.
@burnttoast2615
@burnttoast2615 Месяц назад
Benefits are the acrylic has a look that can’t be replicated by sapphire. But you have this very nice expensive watch that will look good either way but the question is would you sacrifice it for durability to match the insane price tag or make it look a bit better for a piece of plastic that will definitely scratch and could get very deep scratches. When a sapphire will rarely ever get a scratch and is very strong. I absolutely love the acrylic look and I wish they could make a stronger crystal with the exact same look. But it’s so risky. If someone put scissors directly on my sapphire watch I’d be so much less worried that if it were acrylic because the sapphire could maybe get a scratch but it probably won’t. But the acrylic will definitely get a scratch it and could even break the crystal. Expensive watches should be made with the best quality parts in mind to make them look better. Acrylic still has a better look but I’d rather have a watch that looks like new until I die than one that has an expiration date and it’s when that crystal gets broken.
@OverlandTT
@OverlandTT 5 лет назад
This is my exact dilemma, I am looking to add this to give my 300M company (2007 model year). Which keeps its credibility to Omega lovers, i'm leaning to Hesalite for being traditional - however I'm thinking the Sapphire for real world practicality. 300M has been worn daily for 11 years its still 9.9 out of 10 of original finish.
@carzakone333
@carzakone333 3 года назад
I prefer this style, the way he speaks, the speed, the words he uses, to me is better than his newer videos
@cooperwardell8558
@cooperwardell8558 6 лет назад
I have read that the whole nasa debate of whether sapphire or hesalite for the moon watch is actually misinformation. At the time they were procured sapphire was not used in these watches. Also, the sent an RFP to a bunch of watch manufacturers and tested what they got back and chose from those watches. There wasn’t a big back and forth about how to engineer the watch for space, they just picked the speedmaster because it did the best for what they needed. And it came with a hesalite crystal at that time, so that’s what it went to space with. Feel free to tell me I’m wrong, but I believe it is more likely that they simply used what was available.
@robertfatoulatchi9482
@robertfatoulatchi9482 5 лет назад
A simple gshock casio is enough to go to the moon
@jimmyf1312
@jimmyf1312 7 лет назад
MAN ON THE FUCKING MOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
@levisaxen614
@levisaxen614 7 лет назад
Man on the fucking moooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
@markxxxwinter
@markxxxwinter 7 лет назад
Fuck me dead!
@aristospapaiacovou7213
@aristospapaiacovou7213 5 лет назад
Going with the heslite isn't a bad move, most scratches can be polished out by most owners quite easily with a little time effort .on the other hand Sapphire will be almost impossible to polish by hand for the owner
@ctimonen
@ctimonen 2 года назад
There are two additional factors, the first being AR. The anti-reflective coating on the underside of the sapphire crystal acts as a filter, giving the dial a slightly cooler hue. Acrylic, naturally anti-reflective and requiring no AR coating, presents the dial slightly more warmly. While this effect is more noticeable on white-dial watches, on the Speedy, it's evident on the hands, indices, and markers. Together with the beloved distortion at the edge of the acrylic crystal, Hesalite offers a more traditional and vintage vibe!
@JamesBaker41
@JamesBaker41 5 лет назад
I fault no one for their choice here, but I went with the Sapphire. Some days I just stare at the back of it while I'm waiting on something. I completely understand going either direction, but I really don't think you can make a bad choice. Every time I think I might have buyer's remorse, I just kinda stare at it and smile.
@krystianstepien5835
@krystianstepien5835 2 года назад
Sapphire over the others...always. In that specific watch the sapphire version also has the visual case back which is showing the beautiful movement in full glory. It`s marvelous.
@MightyRostam
@MightyRostam 6 лет назад
I got rid of small scratches on my TAG Heuer Targa Florio (plexiglass) by rubbing gently a soft cloth and a tiny bit of toothpaste. Make sure the toothpaste does NOT have any particles otherwise it will scratch the plexiglass even more.
@markfallon7694
@markfallon7694 5 лет назад
For daily wear, sapphire. Bulova now has a watch called the Curve. The crystal is curved sapphire. Just may lead to some interesting watches in the near future.
@lemmontree1
@lemmontree1 4 года назад
Did you see the beveling and the black polishing on that hammer? Stunning!!
@dmora2386
@dmora2386 5 лет назад
I'd love the Hes version, however, I'm so brutal on my watches that I'd deep gouch the thing just getting out of the car. I've had an SMP300m now for 3 months, and I'd had the seatbelt come and smash into the crystal, banged it against walls, stairwell railings, catch it on tables/benches, went cave diving with it...yeah no way. I wear my watches, and wear them a lot. They need to survive me. So I'll go sapphire...though my heart wants hesalite.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 5 лет назад
Vostok Amphibia have very thick lucite crystals..My Omega 266 has had the same lucite crystal since it was new in 1954. However my daily beater is a 1985 Vostok Komandurskie akak with the low beat 18000bph hacking movement. The Omega is 18000bph too. The Lucite has been on it since new. However, my dress diver is a Seagull Ocean Star 28800bph and a Sapphire chrystal. I like this watch because I live by canals and its waterproofing is more reliable than the other two. Its too new to tell how it will be, but hey only cost me £280 here in the uk. I also have a Vostok Amphibia 710 ministry case scuba dude when I am working on the boat £54. I love them all.
@scottfulps2065
@scottfulps2065 6 лет назад
Without a doubt, the finest watch vlog on the internet. Great information, as always.
@redsox7897
@redsox7897 6 лет назад
Hesalite for the speedmaster and sapphire for anything else. Hesalite what makes speedmaster unique watch package and it feels wrong to not have it.
@robertfitzgerald1116
@robertfitzgerald1116 4 года назад
I agree
@MrMarty77
@MrMarty77 4 года назад
Would have been more interesting to see a scratch test with mohs picks on both types
@a2thecreviews4u2c8
@a2thecreviews4u2c8 3 года назад
I went with the sapphire sandwich and I dont regret it at all. Also you can see the movement through the back, but also not the movement has metal pushers inside instead of plastic on the hesalite version
@Richie_P
@Richie_P 7 лет назад
A couple of my sapphire watches have perfectly domed crystals, as smooth as the acrylic in the video, with no discernible "step," or "milky band," or distortion when you view at an angle. What they do have is a sharp edge that is hidden by the bezel. Sapphire crystals shaped like the one in the video only seem to be on watches where the design did not allow the crystal to be set flush with the bezel. It happens that only one of my watches is like that and I actually like the effect.
@1ohtaf1
@1ohtaf1 6 лет назад
Many watches from the late 50s (like the Speedmaster) have proud crystals, so hiding the tight radius under the bezel wouldn't work, as you pointed out.
@thelonious-dx9vi
@thelonious-dx9vi 4 года назад
It's kind of tipped by the fact that the sapphire sandwich is a nicer watch overall, with the higher-finish 1863 calibre and exhibition case back. Mmm, manual wind. I'm thinking about one soon, the sapphire. I do want a Submariner very badly though. We'll see.
@CHMichael
@CHMichael 2 года назад
3:20 its transparent aluminum. That ad campaign would have shattered all sales records.
@WorldView22
@WorldView22 6 лет назад
This a very high quality watch channel, well done. However, I think that this particular video is a bit confusing and lacks perspective. Both materials obviously shatter as the video demonstrates. Hesalite shutters into large chunks and mineral into random large and very small pieces (messier); maybe hesalite can withstand stronger impacts without shattering but, practically, they both shatter. The question is what are the chances you'll knock/drop your watch bad enough to shatter its dial window? Practically, very small unless you're into sports or vigorous physical activities in which case you'll probably not wear a $6K Moon watch (unless there is a fat wallet in one of your pockets). Scratches, on the other hand, are extremely common and, personally, I'm not getting any kicks in polishing my 6K watch with toothpaste, gumption or corn flakes. Replacing the dial window on a moon watch is expensive unless you want to risk sending it to a cheap-n-cheerful local watchmaker or - even worse - do it yourself... on a $6K watch, again. Sapphire is a no-brainer unless you're a collector and look for authenticity (in which case you should look for a vintage piece to do it properly) or don't mind scratches (some people like their watches with a bit of character). Regards,
@superneverover
@superneverover 5 лет назад
But I think what really differs between them is how they reflect light. Hesalite/ acrylic has a very distinctive soft haze of light compared to mirror like sapphire. This, I think is a very important aesthetic decision to the watch details, although I do agree this is very much compromise the durability of the watch.
@benevolentautore4463
@benevolentautore4463 5 лет назад
Great video, and much needed. Having owned an acrylic Datejust for a decade in the 80s/90s I know which way I'm going............. If I ever get the chance to travel to the moon I'll "upgrade" to Hesalite.
@MiniMotoAlliance
@MiniMotoAlliance 3 года назад
Plastic Vs. Near diamond hard material. Such a tough choice
5 лет назад
Outstanding video, once again. Now I understand the difference between saphire and acrylic (that shattering demo was awesome too!)
@CarlosChaconCostaRica
@CarlosChaconCostaRica 6 лет назад
I will select sapphire every day over hesalite. It is super subjective, but to me the feel of hesalite on a watch is quite cheap and plasticky. I will take my chances with sapphire or even the so-called lower quality mineral glass.
@rhannay39
@rhannay39 6 лет назад
Carlos Chacon+ Agree 100%.
@lamaludwig1470
@lamaludwig1470 6 лет назад
Very good video! My 2 cents: If you want a Moonwatch, buy it with Hesalit. If you want a Chrono with all the modern specs, buy nearly any other Speedmaster.
@lamaludwig1470
@lamaludwig1470 6 лет назад
Then you can buy the *real* Moonwatch.
@lamaludwig1470
@lamaludwig1470 6 лет назад
Agree, but that's an issue with the whole watch industry. They make up a story to preferably each watch in order to sell it. I like my Speedy because of its aesthetics and I don't care of all the moon claptrap.
@lamaludwig1470
@lamaludwig1470 6 лет назад
It's not plastic, it is *synthetic material* ;-)
@iamblackjebus
@iamblackjebus 7 лет назад
You would sound great reading one of the unfortunate events series
@paulholbach3716
@paulholbach3716 3 года назад
I would prefer Haselite over Sapphire because scratches can be polished away with Mobile Display Polisher easily. I tried it many times on a CWC W10 British Army watch and it delivers very good results. A Rolex Oyster DJ of mine has a flat Sapphire crystal. The plane of it protrudes a bit and the sharp edge all around can chip off a bit when struck hardly. Happened near the sixth hour index. Years later iduring maintenance Rolex polished the steel case that looked like new again, even scratches on the bracelet & crown disappeared. But although difficult to decide if it was mine because it looked so brand-new again, I recognised my DJ because of that tiny gap in the crystal at 6h.
@Riggzilla
@Riggzilla 5 лет назад
Sapphire is better imo. I don't have to worry about broken shards of glass in zero gravity often so I think the increased scratch resistance is far preferred for me
@andre-dx4yw
@andre-dx4yw 7 лет назад
i got hesalite and love it, yes i have scratched it but polywatch got them right out and 2 years later it still looks like new, scratch saphire and replacement is the only option
@DutchClawz
@DutchClawz 6 лет назад
pfcdre1 scratch saphire?
@Chris-wj4ze
@Chris-wj4ze 6 лет назад
David Topchiev, it's a non-issue. Just get the hesalite replaced when you get the watch serviced. No big deal.
@johnpaavo
@johnpaavo 6 лет назад
My Speedmaster chronograph automatic is 20 years old. I've banged the crystal hard numerous times. Against a brick wall, some ones side view mirror, etc. There's not even a small scratch on the crystal. And it's perfectly curved with no "milky" edge or thick edging.
@onlineidentity6826
@onlineidentity6826 6 лет назад
This is one of the most interesting videos I have ever seen about watches. Well done that man !
@nonenone3898
@nonenone3898 6 лет назад
also worth noting, Hesalite can be polished out at home to looking like new, if you do scratch sapphire it stays scratched, o yea you can scratch it alright. I other point a new Hesalite crystal id about £60 where as the sapphire is £300+ major consideration.
@urieelSEptim
@urieelSEptim 6 лет назад
Mike 2330 sapphire probably wont scratch in a lifetime, so its the better option since shattering it is very unlikely. no maintenance...
@phiestrada5156
@phiestrada5156 6 лет назад
Straight and concise review. Feels like watching nat geo.
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 6 лет назад
I think they also make the flyscreens on submarines out of acrylic.
@scottd9448
@scottd9448 4 года назад
It would be a better idea to laminate Gorilla glass to the acrylic to add scratch resistance and keep the original shape.
@CYC_JP
@CYC_JP 6 лет назад
Sapphire is the way to go. It arguably has the single best decorated chronograph movement under $15k, and this video failed to mention that.
@jonultime
@jonultime 5 лет назад
It's also the wrong choice lol
@MJFallout
@MJFallout 4 года назад
Would you consider an overview to Seiko's Hardlex vs Sapphlex, too?
@homunculus777
@homunculus777 7 лет назад
Nicely done. I learned exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks.
@TheCameltotem
@TheCameltotem 5 лет назад
*Laughs in double Anti reflection sapphire Breitling glas*
@GrizzlyCompany
@GrizzlyCompany Год назад
I love the domed sapphire crystal but I wish that version had the closed case back. I will be purchasing my first Speedmaster very soon and cannot wait.
@scbond
@scbond 3 месяца назад
I’m the same. Would rather have a nicely decorated solid stainless steel case back than sapphire that allows me to see the movement…except when I wear it 😂
@histeriamassal2290
@histeriamassal2290 3 года назад
If I was my dad, I’d choose sapphire bcus he’s perfectionist. He always pays attention to every little detail such as minor scratches 😅. But I’m more a wabi-sabi guy. I think hesalite would age beautifully as you wear it every time.
@jimp9351
@jimp9351 Год назад
Just purchased my first Omega Moonwatch. I bought it because it IS a Moonwatch and I chose Hesalite for the same reason.
@turvyjj9232
@turvyjj9232 3 года назад
Most of times a worn out object has more character than a pristine looking one. Watches are that way. The thing is that some are expensive and we tend to keep them barely used, looking like brand new, because we fear they'd loose value. But that's not the healthy way, nor the aesthetical one. Hesalite, no doubt.
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