When sunny and omori "hug" each other and you get the good ending omori will drop the knife after a few seconds. But if you get the bad ending sunny will drop the violin immediately. It shows that it is easier for sunny to give up and harder to forgive himself.
"You're useless... less than useless. You're sick." This line hit hard. Sunny acknowledging that his headspace is just his wild useless imagination and a way to ignore his friends.
@@notmitsukiyolol I think OP means useless in the way that Headspace does nothing but hide the truth from Sunny. There are healthy ways to use your imagination but pretending that a problem doesn't exist isn't one of them.
True, but the line that hit the hardest was by far, “You’re nothing but a liar. And when they find out the truth… they’ll hate you as much as you hate yourself.”
@@kingenderdragona4791 Probably because you yourself have fears of failing your friends (if you have any) and them leaving you in the dark like Omori says they will
You forgot to mention that OMORI is the name etched onto MARI's piano. Furthermore, OMORI's black singlet, striped white shorts and long black socks/boots further add to his connection with the piano. In terms of game design, however, the piano is most likely named after OMORI, so it's likely SUNNY had based OMORI's name and appearance on his sister's piano story-wise. Also, SUNNY's name makes a hell of a lot of sense when MARI's epitapth reads "The sun shined brighter when she was here". The epitapth refers to SUNNY, who was doing so much better while MARI was still alive, even if he still wasn't expressive or talkative.
Omori is one of those games, that can convey a ridiculously big amount of story telling and emotions in a very short experience. It's just amazing how Omocat fit this much feeling, foreshadowing, emotion, and story in a game like Omori.
@@thefffc194 And then there's the final fantasies, dragon quests, tales series, lots of independent ones, SMT games (including p5), and those are just off the top of my head.
It may sound weird, but when exploring the hospital hallway, I noticed that Sunny and Basil’s hospital rooms have the same spots as their neighborhood homes in Faraway Town.
Cool, Nice But why did they (Sunny and Basil) choosed that though? It was weirdly specific that they remember (and used) their... "origin" and their "path". ....oooooooohhhhhhhhh.......
Another interesting thing about Sunny/Omori is that while he doesn't ever really talk in headspace or the real world, the game makes up for it by making him express through internal dialogues in real world interactions. I find it charming how snarky the descriptions are and how Sunny canonically internally rates every bed he comes across like some sort of bed connoisseur. The item descriptions in hs also reveal a lot about Sunny in little ways, similar the world building. A good example of this is the toy item PRESENT, that makes a friend or foe ANGRY, which has the description "It's not what you wanted…"
4:53 A fun little parallel to this I notice every playthrough is how, when jumping into the Lost Library after beating Sweetheart, Kel is physically the closest to Omori when the friends drift off. Hero goes first, already keeping at a distance; Aubrey starts closer but Kel doesn't start to drift away until after Aubrey's passed him. It's a cute little nod to the real world relationships.
I love that Basil went missing in headspace instead of Mari. I think it shows that Sunny was pushing back the memories of her because he was scared of thinking about her. The game is so complex and I feel like omocat really put a lot of effort into the story besides just the gameplay.
@@4DD3R noot saying he wasn't, cause he definitely was, but Mari also dissappears as well. She isn't able to stay for too long or else Sunny will remember. Basil ends up becoming similar to Mari when saved in the hikikomori route where he isn't missing per say, but he disappears and reappears randomly on the pinic basket
Omori removes basil. As stated by the strangers in black space "the flower boy always ends up finding the truth". Which causes omori to whisk him away to blackspace in order to protect sunny from the past.
@@shipperina2213 mari is kept back on purpose. Its hinted at by some deeper characters that she used to be part of the adventures but partly due to her bad knee and partly due to headspaces rpg like structure mari kept getting into trouble. Therefore omori just keeps her safe on her picnic blanket. Never going into any real danger.
I think My least favorite ending is the modified Hikkiomori one (not sure what its actual name is) where you hang out with kel day one and not for the rest of the game. It's like giving your friends a hope you'll be coming out, but taking eventually just choosing to forget.
Yeah, I did this route on my second playthrough of the game and I gotta say that it’s pretty interesting, because some of the Hikikomori route content is still accessible but some is inaccessible unlike in the normal Hikikomori route. For example I don’t know if this is just me or not, but when you go to the lost library again to battle the fears, after placing the sheet music down there’s only 1 beam of light to step into which leads to the Acrophobia fight but the other fears aren’t there, which also means you can’t access black space 2, but everything else from the normal Hikikomori route is as usual.
@@gdbatle9967 It's probably just you. Nothing on the wiki states that that's the case at all. But there are other noticeable differences, like what I'm mentioning in another comment.
@@mafiabosslvl1007 Yeah, it's called the Mixed Route, some other changes include *A:* Being able to access the "Mari is home" event in Black Space 2 without having to use the secret entrance from Black Space 1, and *B and more importantly:* Using Basil's Photo Album after being completely taken over by Omori shows all of the photos scribbled out. This implies that Sunny was under Omori's control when he scribbled out Basil's photos and accidentally got Aubrey angry.
2:33 Also, when inspecting Mari's grave in faraway town, it says "The _sun_ shined brighter when she was here.". I feel like that might be intentional. It makes sense, as it's both a general believable gravestone quote, but it could also imply that Sunny, the 'sun', "shined brigther"(aka was happier and healthier) when she was alive. Which is true. He did.
Interesting idea about Basil thinking of himself as a sunflower following the sun. Just wanted to add, his sprite often turns towards Sunny if you walk around a room with him in it, which is notable, because nobody else has this behavior in the game as far as I could find.
I actually had the opposite thought process when I first played through Omori. Instead of saying "I" when playing as Sunny or Omori I saw them as the character and me as a spectator, disconnecting myself from the two. I saw this as Sunny's story not mine, since the very beginning. I remember thinking that it was okay and that Sunny just needed to breathe during the fight with the stair fear monster. Also, I always found the Omori boss music to be a perfect representation of anxiety in a song, which is fitting since the track's name is Omori.
I had largely the same process until I reached Lost Library. It's a really sneaky touch they did where you have to fill in the blanks in the memories, and Sunny is referred to as "I". Even if you have a healthy disconnect from the character, this is a really interesting trick they used to try to encourage the player to think of their actions in-game with "I" rather than "them".
That point about how people tend to detach themselves from Sunny is interesting. I think I had something similar during the scene where Omori stabs Basil, but the scene after did the complete opposite. Seeing Sunny awake right after that, still on the ground, just staring upward, as though the pain that jolted him awake was nothing compared to the scene in his mind... it made me connect to Sunny so much more than before, and I think the closest I got to disasosiating from Sunny after that was during the Toy Box sequence, when he actively describes not just what you interact with, but but also topics surrounding them, like where the cactus came from, or how he feels about baths and such, and even then...
6:24 holy shit i'm so stupid for the longest time i thought that basil's decapitated body was a chicken, i remember laughing at how omori was suddenly having a boat ride with a chicken while the music got really quiet for no reason lmaoooo
At the last segment of the omori battle (17:26) when i was playing, I thought that omoris eyebrows are tilted to the side a bit (to make a sad expression). Im not sure if its just the blotchiness of the colouring but i thought it was interesting
To be fair omori is just doing what Sunny truely wants deep down, since omori doesn't have any free will. He himself may not want Sunny to truely die, he just wants to protect him. Sunny deep down wants to die, so omori tells him his negative thoughts. In the end Omori is still Sunny, Sunny hopes is his hopes, Sunny's dreams is his dreams, Sunny's wishes is his wishes. Sunny is in a conflict of wanting to die vs. Wanting to live, so he does what Sunny wants, but Sunny is fighting against his wants with his need of telling the truth and learning to accept.
Hikikomori seems to literally be "Drawn to the large Grove" when split and put through google translate. Someone who prefers to spend their time lost in the woods all alone...
I agree with saying "I" and "You" part(and I feel called out :D) . Well it was easier for me to say "me" rather than "Sunny" but my goal in game was making "Sunny" feel better again. Saying"I"was just a lot convenient. After playing Undertale and Deltarune I always detach myself from characters.
OMOCAT did a sneaky trick to disarm that detachment in the Lost Library. When you have to fill in the gaps in Sunny's memories to understand the books, despite being written in 3rd person, Sunny is only referred to as "I" (or rather, one square.) The fact it's also a simple puzzle disarms the player into blurring that line between them and Sunny. I didn't notice until later that this is when I started thinking of the avatar with "I" rather than "it"/"he".
@EL AUTENTICO but the thing is he's friends forgiving him doesnt matter him forgiving himself is the thing that matters he fully aknoledged the consiquences and overcame he's fears , he hid the truth from all of his friends in fear of him judging them buuuuut after the true ending or good ending he overcomes this fears and tells them anyways because no matter the outcome he has overcome his grief (but not fully) he also learned to aknoledge he's good moments with mari and im sure he knows that mari woudnt want him to feel all this grief also after the good ending and true ending you see in omori's point of view driving to his own house meaning he didnt kill himself
7:40 You really hit the nail on the coffin in concerns to our connection as a player with Sunny. It's actually a really profound topic in terms of character relatability, this sudden change between the self-identifying "Me" and "I" when playing a character, to the accusatory "You" when they do something horrible. I remember being very emotional and elated when I started watching good ending playthroughs of OMORI. Not only because these let's players made the decision to forgive the protagonist despite their actions, but because these let's players ended up identifying with many of the mental health issues that this game represents. So much to the point where some started crying during either the Final Duet, or during OMORI's self-harming thoughts during Sunny's Final Battle with him ("They'll hate you as much as you hate yourself." "You let them believe in a lie to protect yourself."). They ended up not only identifying with, but in turn supporting Sunny to the very end, as if they stood beside him while he said the first confessionary words, or more specifically, as he took the first steps towards healing after three years. It gave me hope to see people support Sunny, because Sunny and Omori and the whole friend group together is, in essence, an overwhelmingly poignant representation of mental trauma, and seeing people wanting to "reach out and hug these mentally unstable kids," to me, is like a call to action to save people who are on the brink of suicide. Perhaps this is why people are so defensive towards this game. And admittedly, I've realized that I too, am defensive about the game. Since, not so soon after watching the overwhelming positive support towards Sunny's incident around launch, I became stricken with horror, when one streamer I soon watched immediately say: "How do I kill myself?!," after seeing Sunny's Truth scene. It's not a one-to-one version of the accusatory "you..." but considering their choice of words to the overall game's message at hand... is just, wow... Suffice to say that I was deeply stricken by this statement, because they not only inherently validated suicide, but also inherently validated others TO TELL OTHERS to commit suicide. Say what you want about observer's bias and getting too attached to fictional characters - this is really raw stuff, man - because this brings to mind one way people reach or push other people to that tipping point -all the self-harming thoughts bottled up inside, EXPLODING because some outside party popped, or slowly scraped it with a long, sharp needle. This game... Is nothing short of a masterpiece of storytelling.
9:05 your analysis did make sense, but it was flawed. most players said “you” because it was out of their control. if there was an option to eat the Nome or not, and the PLAYER chose to eat them, then they would most likely say “why did I eat the Nome”. but since the PLAYER was planning to eat the sausage, and the CHARACTER didn’t, that was the character’s fault, hence “why did YOU eat the Nome”.
23:46 I have to disagree with you, Basil's something doesn't disappear, it just goes back into his head. It is not truely gone, because unlike Sunny, Basil wasn't able to confront the truth properly. He is still stuck onto his delusional belief that Something killed Mari and is holding onto his guilt of framing it into a suicide. At that moment however all of this dissappears because everything in that moment felt nice and calm.
i interpret it as his something disappearing because it's usually seen as surrounding him and "eating him alive" but in the ending basil was the one to take it in him
Sunny looks surprised in 30:37 but Omori is completely emotionless even though everyone else is happy, probably because this is just his imagination and everyuthing is expected after all,
So,watched all video,so here i am back,again. As a some type of dreamer, omori kindaf chenged my life. Even my life is somehow (not totally,of course) similar to sunny's. I had a group,becouse of i didn't wanted to do what they said, i was kicked out of group,that was as a kid. Next we have school,maybe a new point in my life? No. Beocuse oof my actions in 1-3 grade i have no friends,even today at 8 grade of elementary school. hopefully i am going to end this section of my life by leaving this school to another one. But,around a year ago,something chenged. [March 2020] Nothing to think about...No films,no friends,no new games to play... sudenlly one night,i made a dream,i was interasted in it,wanted to recreate it again,after few days finally i made it. My own dream,with my own choises, as a writer of this world,i could've do everthing,and some time after, some youtuber made a video about the 5 year old game,called Undertale. there,i meet AU's, and unlimited choices,history and timeline to chenge. after some time,beocuse of Pandemic,i was heaving more free time,beocouse of new type of learning,from home. NO need to met with people that hate me NO need to learn for tests,as you can check on-line everthing And best of all,as we were't taking any Video meeting,i had enough time to do, what i wanted. A half year later, a had to go back,again to school,that destroyed my life, to meet with the same people against my will, i had not enough time to do anything,becouse "We have to make up the material from last year", so test,after test more grades, more people tat dont like me... But still i had My world, *Mine beloved world*. "My, perfect world" "The place where i am a God [Writer]" "This world is better that the real one" yep,it sound familiar. Merg made another video, about another small, not so popular indie game, and here it is, OMORI. This game geved me more inspiration, and also, some more healhier look at the world that surrounds me, that you can't escape, but its ok. Just be Yourself,and try, to improve your life (this real one),and maybe it will chenge. So,Omori gave me more covidence,and i am waiting for High-school,maybe there i will find friends. more inspiration=More dreams that stand out=More happines in life Today,still dreamer,still guy that is strange but more (i think) likeable,and happier. Thank you for reading. waiting for more videos about OMORI,Deltarune and other things for inspirations
Ok this is slightly unrelated but I realized when you played the library music how much I love it. It gives off waterfall, (Undertale) sunken sea, (Terraria calamity mod) and city of tears (Hollow Knight) vibes. Which are some of my favorite music tracks in games.
Also Imagine how weak you have to be to get into a fight with a short anorexic hermit, stab their eye out and still be worse off to the point where you can't even get up.
Thank you for your continued love and dedication to this game and its community, your OMORI videos are so great. As someone who really loves OMORI, this is so awesome to see, and I'm really amazed by how comprehensive your analysis is. I hope that you get the positive recognition you deserve for making such high quality and thoughtful content.
for me personally, i never ended up disconnecting myself from sunny,, idk, i guess i do kinda identify with him. a lot of the scenes that people around me found terrifying and depressing just kinda went... meh, to me, cos its kinda what ive grown used to seeing in myself it was the hopeful moments that got to me. the violin solo at the end of the true route. the flashbacks to their childhood and how they all grew together. and- goddamn memory lane dude, that one hit way too close to home. i cant remember a lot of my memories with childhood friends, or i remember them only vaguely, and after finishing the game i spent hours crying because i wished i could have a memory lane where i could relive being happy and carefree and... yeah while playing i always referred to sunny/omori as "we". before and after the truth. because while i wasnt in his exact situation, i got it, yanno? i could understand his thought process, so i never rly felt alienated, if that makes sense
tl;dr: omori is an amazing game and i will never emotionally recover from this. my therapist has heard of this and its actually been a huge motivation in pushing me to socialize again and work towards recovery
I am exactly the same. I always referred to sunny as "me" even giving him my own real life name at most points I'm a PTSD patient ,diagnosed and all, the experience of guilt of what had happened..that date, has caused me to spiral into a fit of isolation ,it was close to covid so I didn't have to really worry anyone and still isolate myself, I started sleeping way to much and had dreams where I could have normal sweet relationships, preferably with men and women, but once of a gender non conforming individual, as if to replenish my now destroyed image of romantic attraction, and sometimes intimate attraction. I also cried a lot more in the flashbacks, a childhood I actually didn't even get to have, memories wiped by the amnesia PTSD causes at times, this game was so wild to me, I especially loved the memory route having to take a break every time. I got the true ending on my first run, it was close to when I wanted to do something bad to myself...it mainly kept me back from it, even saved my life you could say. Adding onto my experience I disassociated once, during the crush on Aubrey sequence, laughing and saying "aw you guys are so cute!" I don't know, I guess Aubrey just isn't my type lol
I think that the way omori or sunny says nothing in the face of horror he is presented like the bodys of his friends his different horrific vision of his sister and all the blood and darkness which are downright insane and how during every interaction he doesnt flinch he doesnt get scared (except those few instances ) tells how this is isnt the first time he was here and how for the past 4 years this has been happening many many times so much so that he isnt that suprised or scared by it ,maybe thinking he deserves it.
I always thought Omori was at first a protector and that the actual guilt is symbolized by the color red, this red then slowly corrupts Omori as time goes on making more of a split personality which two different views. Remember, Omori is the “piano” fully black and white, but that had to chance over time, four years had passed and many play outs of Basil trying to find the truth.
Short theory So uhm when in the omori fight the screams and “no no stop it” And sirens, may actually be Sunny going to the hospital while his friends are screaming for him to live
You forgot that Omori is named after the piano that Mari used to play and spend all her time on. I think I'll present a counterpoint to the player's association with Sunny. It actually gets stronger, despite the player disassociating themselves with Sunny, since Sunny even does that following Mari's death. It would actually convey what Sunny's going through to the player There's also a third neutral ending similar to picking the steak knife up before going to sleep. Except you stab yourself in the real world instead of sleeping
I noticed something! In 25:27, there are shoes hanging from the power lines. In some neighbourhoods, shoes tied together and hanging from power lines/tree branches signify someone has died. Those are probably BASIL’s shoes.
This video taught me even more, and forced to emotionally have to accept even more the fact that I can't just run away from thoughts, feelings and problems with coping mechanisms, no matter how healthy they are, or repress. Thanks
4:40 I'm gonna have to disagree with the wording but the point is fair. I'd say that Sunny is also an extrovert due to him being willing to go to random people's houses to help with math and goes around the whole town without being really tired, but he IS less... emotional than Kel though and Kelis more confrontational. Then again, this is probably a new development.
Extrovert means someone who gets their energy from being around people, so Sunny being an extrovert makes sense since he is shown to be more alive when around people. Though that may be from just having the only person he have been around physically for 4 years being his mom.
Funnily enough, Kel comes off as an introvert to me since in headspace he mentions in the picnic that he finds talking with people tiring "That sounds exhausting...I can't small talk at all! That sounds exhausting...I can't small talk at all!", however it may be possible that Kel is an extrovert and Sunny being an introvert is projecting his issues onto Kel
@@shipperina2213 I don't think Sunny is projecting his issues at lest not in a way that affects Kel very much... at least not in the true ending. Also don't forget that Kel shows the same attitude in Real world where he tries to end confrontations as quickly as possible and he DOES have a high amount of natural energy so that might be the reason why he can handle thing like that. And the 150 mg of caffeine in orange joe.
@@getthedunkon9347 that or it is practice from trying to find distractions from his issues by basketball, in these types of sports you would need to have a good relationship with others, even if you hate them, you must be able to trust them to help the team. Kel probably just learnt it as a way to make sure he keeps a good relationship with the team which then leaked into his relationship with others
@@shipperina2213 And then there is Kel's sync with Sunny where either of them can tend to the other without that person losing a turn. Pretty impressive.
22:33 The great thing about this is if you you interact with the hospital roof door, Sunny will shake his head. He refuses to lose himself. He is going to LIVE despite hardship and confess the truth. I just think it's amazing how such a small gesture can something so beautiful.
9:32 I would say that this isn't because the action take us away from the character, but because the character suddenly makes an action without letting us decide. I am the one who come closer to eat the sausage, but is the character who decided to eat the gnome instead.
I see sunny hugging Omori as forgiving himself. Beating down your trauma and intrusive thoughts will only make them stronger, as this happens in the Omori fight. Accepting that they exist is the only way to move past them.
My sister was so close to the good ending... But she chose to die, even for fictional characters this feels almost too real. Sometimes I get angry at her in my dreams but I don't ever want to though...
1:41 I'm pretty sure that's more of a coincidence than anything. I mean, why would a Japanese developer specifically use the Romanian word for "kill" to name a character who's main theme is self isolation and dealing with grief. (I'm Romanian btw, so thanks for mentioning that tho)
omori's name could also be a reference to memento mori, a latin phrase that means "remember you will die." edit: 30:24 well, i mean... he did his chores.
close your eyes, you'll be here soon いちにさんしごふん ときどきほんとうにねたい でもこのワードできない おやすみ おやすみ、おやすみ close your eyes and you'll leave this dream おやすみ、おやすみ I know that it's hard to do days go by, しょうがない, moments pass, shattered glass, hands of time, where's that chime? In my head, I'll just hands of time will wring my neck, every little moment spells regret but i don't have to feel this way as a voice inside my head おやすみ bagel
Happy birthday Sunny! Great analysis, though I think the good endings should have been discussed last, as I find it better to start with the bad and then end with the good.
@EL AUTENTICO why are so pressed it was just another theory. I think it kinda fits especially since omori is suicidal which means his death is going to happen because he refuses to face the truth
The hemp hemp before the tumbling and scream it could've been maris yelling to sunny with first the stop no no! And then she continued screaming and yelling before stopping and trying to get it (the violin) and then mari trying to get it sunny also trying to get it and then he accidently killed her.
19:00 I saw a video and it cut out the violin solo and sped up the noises. It’s a woman saying “Stop it” repeatedly and “Oh no” and some distraught yelling
tbh, this is just my opinion but im not much of a fan of ppl who change sunnys name to a name of their choice not because its bad, but because i just prefer having sunny (his actual name) as his name because i feel like it adds to the truth kind of ig?
Actually you can find out why Sunny call himself that it actually Mari piano when the final duet play Sunny use his violin but who playing the piano it Omori that why he color and black and white all the time the black is color of the negative of Sunny. The white could meant the beginning of something new due to daddy long leg tell us how the dreamer started this time. Just want put that out as no matter Sunny had something to remember her by calling himself OMORI.
I'm so lonely that I made some imaginary friends and no this is no cap I'm serious like I have 9 or 10 and every single one of them are my best friend they care about me they are empathetic and every time I'm feeling down I just hear knocking Sounds
......its kinda funny how kris the silent character that is controlled by the player is getting tired and fed up by the player breaks free and players still make them relate to the character even though kris has their own life without the player
@@jerma985_enjoyer4 you sound like your on drugs rn you should 1st check your facts. I thought that it was a new ending so don’t be rude. 2nd don’t be rude a kind reminder would have been more appreciated and appropriate. 3rd don’t be rude when you don’t know who your talking to. Edit: Also, that still means there is 5 endings, he said there was 4 so even if I’m wrong, which I see now that i am, that my points still stands. There’s 5 endings, not 4. So keep your comments to yourself.
