OMPHOBBY M4 or M4 Max? Difficult choice - I try to help!! 

@Rcheliguy Thank you very much! I am happy when I am flying smooth and round, so your words are making me even more happy! I am glad you finde the info useful! Best greetings and happy flights!!

@rudolphfranken1446 Thank you very much Ruud! I am glad you liked my comparison!

@shtumpa1 Thank you very much for your kind words regading my flying! You probably will have experienced that for the pilot himself it's very difficult to see the improvement. It's like if are with a child every day you don't see how it is growing. But If you haven't see it a while you see the difference. The best thing is: I really. really, really love flying more and more! It's a never ending love story!! best greetings, Matthias!!

@HeliShed Thank you very much, dear Tyger!! I wish you all the very best!!

@tomkoller749 Vielen herzlichen Dank! Solche Worte ermutigen sehr und tun gut! Im Moment treiniere ich Rollen und halbe Rollen von inverted zurueck zu uptight. Mein naechstes Ziel sind halbe Rollen zu inverted und dann halbe Rollen zuruck zu upright. Ganz ehrlich haben mich akrobatik Flugzeuge dazu inspiriert. Am Simulator klappt es toll. Aber auf dem Feld, mit meist reichlich Wind aus allen moeglich Richtungen zittern dann doch die Knie! Aber irgendwann klapps bestimmt! Sehr herzliche Gruesse aus Polen zurueck in die Schweiz und viele tolle Fluege!

@glenncain Very good point with the one piece tail case! It really makes the tail assembly much easier. And when I took it out of the carton I was amazed how beautiful it is machined! I was thinking if I would buy a tail case just to put it in my glass-showcase. I watched it several times before I built the heli and it's almost a shame that the most beautiful part is hidden in the Tailboom. And I agree: If I would have to decide for just one heli it would be the M4 Max! But I am happy that this is just speculation and I have both!! Best greetings and happy flights!!

@RubenRC94 Wow 3000 RPM on the Max... woops, I cant even imagine how punchy this machine would be!! I am definitely more the low RPM guy, even with my small M2 Evos I am flying low RPM because I love the "relaxed" motor sound. And most important: I love smooth big air flying and really do not need a lot of punch for this! I wish you that you find more time for flying again and that your family is fine!! All the best and thanks for watching and your comment!

​@@RCCopterLove thanks! Next 3 weeks I will be off from work and the weather is going to be great. So probably lots of flying. I love the low rpm on the m4 max. My lowest is around 1750rpm that's 300 rpm lower than my raw 580 and it still flies amazing. Usually I fly the max around 2300 rpm nice and quiet but still has punch and with my 2400mah packs I get around 8 to 8.5 minutes of flight time. The m2 I like to send with a higer headspeed. But I fly that one like I stole it to practice new things because it's so crash resistant.

@@RubenRC94 Great news, Ruben! So I cross my fingers that you have fantastic weather in the next three weeks and that you can fly as much as possible!! Yes, the M4 Max is unbelievable with low RPM. I never experienced an unxpected high loss of RPM, although my collective pitch management is far away from being good. This machine gives me tons of trust and confidence! I just love to fly it!!

@karsteinlerang2660 Hi! In your case I would definitely recommend you the M4. It is cheaper when you buy it and repairs/parts are cheaper. Take offs and landings in wind are a bit easier, because the width of the skids is identical with them of the M4 Max but the rotor disc is smaller because of the shorter main blades. The heli stands a bit more stable. I went this way, first M4 and then M4 Max and for me it was the best way! All the best and happy flying!

@t.s.thomas Thank you very much for your kind words! Your idea for the progression is the best! The M4 is a bit less intimidating and a great model for the first bigger heli. I am happy that I went this route. Regarding the M7: It's really s bit too big for me, also for practical reasons: Transport, Batteries and I would need a much bigger field than my new and already much better and bigger field. I hope that OMPHOBBY will bring out something inbetween the M4 Max and the M7. This would be at once my next heli! Best greetings and happy flights!!

@@RCCopterLove I hope OMPHobby will listen your (and my) desire for an M-greater-4-smaller-7 🙃.

@@jupi-aladin I will constantly go on Jonas Wackershausers Nerves with this topic! There is hope!! I believe we will all be surprised one day. More I cannot say at this moment! 🤫

@jupi-aladin Thank you and I am glad you like this video! Your question is not easy to answer: In flight on very windy days I like the M4 Max more, because it feels more stable in the air. BUT: before we can fly we have to take off and after flying we have to land again. And for me take offs and landings in gusty winds are easier with the M4. The width of the skids, the height and the center of gravity are identical on both helis but the M4 Max rotordisc is noticable bigger and the wind has more surface to in the worst case pick the heli up on one side. Thats why on such very windy days I take both helis to the field and fly the M4 Max first. My concentration and reaction works better in the first couple of flights. As soon I loose a bit the "sharpness" I switch to the M4. Take offs and landings in crosswinds are really easier (for me) with it. Thanks for the tipp with the Matek Buzzer. Will it work with Radiomaster / Edge TX radios? Greetings back from PL to CH!! Matthias

@@RCCopterLove Thank you for your response. I use the Matek-Buzzer on a Radiomaster ER4 Receiver (with ELRS-Protocol) and have a TX16S MarkII as Transmitter, of course with EdgeTx. So yes, it works very well with Radiomaster / Edge TX Radios. Greetings Reto

@@jupi-aladin Thank you very much!! Great, so I will look for it!! Greetings Matthias!

It clearly states all that on any of the advertising.

@@elitecol69 I made my choice to get the M4 Max a long time ago, due to the lower RPM's. I didn't pay attention to anything else. They are both technically classified as 400 class Heli's. The kit is still sitting in a box unbuilt.

@AnythingEverythingRC Thank you! I am very happy that I could help out! The difference is really big! Both are great on their own way, but the M4 Max is now my daily work horse and out on the field almost every singe day! I know no grace: If it's soaring hot I am out at 7.00 AM before the sun burns down! I love this helicopter! It's by far my personal favorite! And I love the new look in green!! Many greetings and happy flight!!

@@elitecol69 To be honest, I am often as well not reading everything. 🙂And my main goal was to show in flight how both machines sound and perform in flight with very different RPM. I hope this shows it more practical and visual than just comparing the figures. Best greetings and many happy flights!! 🙂

@@AnythingEverythingRC-rc1yc Congrats to your decision for the M4 Max long ago!! I really recommend you to build this beautiful machine as soon you have any free moment! As soon you get this heli in the air you will regret every single day you waited too long! 😀 But serious: I recommend to build it! The M4 Max is now by far my favorite helicopter!! I am pretty sure you will love it a lot!!

@t.s.thomas02 Thank you for your good question! I have my timer set on 7:30 minutes and directly after landing I have still 3,8 Volt per cell in my 2200 mAh SLS Lipos!! So about 30 %. This with my Idle up 2 throttlecurve in Radiomaster / Edge TX of Plus 19. (50% throttle curve in Spektrum and other systems is 0 in Edge TX / Radiomaster. Plus 50 would be 100 % throttle in Spektrum) I am a bit too stupid to count how much my plus 19 would be in Spektrum. But with my M4 Max headspeed in the video I have much more "juce" left in my Lipo than you expected! I hope this helps you! If you know a formula to count Spektrum Throttle curves (0 to 100 %) VS Edge TX (-50 at 0 Spektrum throttle, 0 at 50 % Spektrum throttle and +50 at 100 Spektrum throttle) please let me know. I was and will be always a catrastrophe at mathematics!! 😀

​@@RCCopterLovehi Matthias just to chime in. Isn't the edge tx throttle curve - 100 to +100 like the ethos one (I really tought it was) - 100 being 0% in spektrum 0 being 50% and +100 being 100% in spektrum. If that is the case the formula is as follows S=Spektrum curve value R=Radiomaster curve value. S x 2 -100= R so for instance 50%x2=100 -100= 0 that's your value on the radiomaster curve. The other way around it is R +100 /2 =S So +40(radiomaster value)+100=140/2=70% on spectrum. In this case you need to be mindful of where in the curve the radiomaster value is. +40 as in this example will give you 70%. -40 would give you 30%.

@@RubenRC94 Thank you very much Ruben! You write it very clear and I try to really understand it with time. I am having a complete lack of the mathematical part in my brain and it's very hard to even imagine. I have this since I was in the first classes of school (I hated mathematics). Thanks a lot, I try to analize it deeply! On the other hand I am good in music an foreign languages. Seems to be a total other part of brain. Best greetings and many great and safe flights!!

@@RCCopterLove my math is terrible too. But switching from spektrum to frsky I had to learn this part. I can remember it now but that's about it. I did the calculations and 19 on radiomaster is 59.5% on spektrum

@@RubenRC94 Thanks for being honest and not letting me feel so alone with this being terrible i mathematics!! Thats good to know! For my soft and round flyingstyle ths is enough and it does not sound like a lot!! Have a great time, Ruben, and enjoy your helis!! 🙂🚁

@nfavor Thank you very much for your kind words! I have bought a small microphone to be connected with the smartfone, our camera. But unfortunately my wife unses a quite old smartfone and the android sortware is too old for this new microphone. I know it sounds bad, especially on windy days. But for the time being i am kind of "healed' from forther micro shopping. I can only apologize and ask for understanding. Best greetings!!

@@RCCopterLove I enjoy your videos. You offered the best explanation of the two models I've seen

@@nfavor Thank you so much! This means a lot for me!! I am happy that my info helped you! One thing I forgot to mention in the video but I wrote in the descripton: The M4 has a OMPHOBBY 65 A ESC, the M4 Max comes with a 85 A ESC due to the more powerful motor! The bigger ESC in the M4 Max stays more cold on hot days! But I never had problems with the M4 ESC altough it's getting noticable warmer.

@FPVJoschi Hallo Joschi! Vielen Dank fuer deinen Kommentar! Es freut mich, dass du mein Video interessant findest! Du hast dich sehr gut fuer den M4 Max entschieden. Ich liebe auch niedrige RPM. Fuer mich war der M4 das erste Kit in meinem Leben (als er herausgekommen ist!), da ich vorher nur Ready to Bind helis wie den M2 und den M1 fertig aus der Foambox geflogen bin! Das war eine riesige Herausforderung fuer mich, weil ich als vermutlich einziger Heli Freak auf der Welt das Zusammenbasteln nicht besonders mag. Mir fehlen die Nerven dazu. Ich baue Helis nur, weil ich weiss, dass ich sie spaeter fliegen kann. Das Fliegen liebe ich und es ist meine riesige Leidenschaft. Das Bauen und basteln an Helis... ehem. Ganz ehrlich mache ich es nur, weil ich es muss. Und ich lerne viel dabei, ganz klar. Aber moegen... da wuerde ich luegen!! Mit den Ersatzteilpreisen hast du Recht! Da ist OMPHOBBY ungeschlagen. Ich crashe zwar so gut wie nie. Aber wenn, dann richtig!! :D Beste Gruess und tolle Fluege!!