On 1948 | Ilan Pappe | Part II | 2018 

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How about oral collaboration from the Zionists themselves you can find in this documentary titled “Route 181” available for free for a limited time at www.palestinefilminstitute.org/en/pfp?fbclid=IwAR3IlPgPgsnFrV_4pwHr08iOEpK_jk7RvbWLvKtCrwXiFHh2gZTtN_6znN4

d'accordo ... earlier i went off the deep end, not waiting for him to finish speaking ... unity! solidarity! these things are essential now (i keep reminding myself)

@@mohammadsalman57 cannot see, it was taken down

What caused the NAKBA ? Who refused the 700,000 Palestinian-Arab refugees ?

@@samuuluinavucu1246 Firstly Britain and secondly comes the zionist settler colonialism project which could not be succeed without the full support of the British. Both caused Nakba

@@abokareem7586 How did this happen ?

@@samuuluinavucu1246 ethnic cleansing, orders given by zionist command carried out by the nascent israeli army (haganah, irgun, lehi, etc.) in 1948 until 1949 when the war ended in the north formally. 80% of the arab palestinian population was expulsed, around 800,000, especially from the south. Around 13,000 palestinians were killed.

@@hkilgore9462 I don’t doubt that ethnic cleansing took place, but where are all these orders? Pappé talks about the existence of a “consultancy”. Where did he get that from?

I’m kind of surprised though to find the other videos on this channel are mostly Jordan Peterson lol

The reason for the Balfour Declaration was because the British didn't want jews in Europe. Same with Americans.

And then all the british are expelled cornwall with a wall at the border. The funny thing is that they already have organisations comparable to hamas without ever experiencing something like this.

GABOR Mate

Truly my pleasure

Yup real history, did you watch part 1?

​@@icarium6031I'm on it now Thank You

why not about corbyn?

Exactly what I was thinking! There’s so much here that I haven’t heard elsewhere, despite being obsessed with the whole thing lately, lol.

I just watched a new video of him a few days ago

​@@eliasshalhoub582; Where can I find it please

Read his book, and please share it with others. The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians.

They hate each others' guts, so not sure i have the budget to bribe them into being in the same room room with each other. One can dream though : )

@@Transliminal Maybe an MMA match 🤣 you could ppv it!

@@Transliminal lol

@@Transliminal Do they seriously hate each other, or is it more of a professional dispute?

@@brethart522 They despise one another

Do you visit people in Gaza when you go to isreal?

Israel is a very strange place. I went for the first time this past September. I wasn't aware of the Palestinian oppression then. Now I learned. I will NEVER go again.

There's the audio transcript from youtube you can copy to get something readable after some formating and cleaning. The option to display the transcript is the last one (below the vid).

I'm a Canadian professional with a background in anthropology. My ethnic heritage is Ashkenazi Jewish, but it's not my primary chosen identity.

@@Transliminal Thanks a mill for taking the time to respond. I do think it is important to know "who" the interviewer is; not necessarily, name and surname and their face, but some of their background, as it will play a part ( big or small depending on their character, professional integrity and self-awareness) on how they conduct the interview. Even more so when approching such a subject matter. My questions did not mean to be accusatory, though they may seem a tad blunt now that I go back to them. I guess following some of your questions to and your interactions/counter-arguments with Ilan Pappé, I sensed that you may indeed be Jewish yourself, as I could perceive a certain "defensiveness"? in them? And it did not feel like you were "playing devil's advocate" either. Thank you again for your response. Keep doing good work..

The call has not been for anything other than a 2 seperate state has been the only option on the table for years. I do not understand where you get this idea from. Links, quotes, please!!!

You mean like the SA victim who recalls the rappist wearing black underwear when perhaps it might've been dark blue but is able to tell you what that rappist did to her/him? You find that concept mind blowing? Are you human?

I had listened to part 1 and began listening to part 2 without yet realizing this was recorded 5 yrs ago. When I heard him mention the reaction of Israelis if the govt expelled 1 million Palestinians from Gaza, I practically gasped!

It’s 1948 again

interviewer should not overtalk

This is simple false. Dna has show the Palestinians have been there for thousands of years. Ashkenazi J3ws are European. Are you Israeli?

Are current day Swiss, Germans, Italians, English etc. descendants of the aboriginal inhabitants of these same lands? No. The history of the world is that of conquest, murder and expulsion. How about all the Americans of Non Indian descent? Are they also bearers of a crime ?

Yes. The latter didn't plan on expelling the indigenous population.

Yes, there is no Jewish nationalism. It is a religion, not an ethnicity.

@@Windband1 The Zionist founders didn't define Jewishness based on religion. It was purely based on race. In fact, they used the same definition Hitler did.

@@Windband1 Wrong. David Ricardo, Karl Marx, Trotsky and Noam Chomsky are all Jews and athiests.

@@deficrypto1234 Then that makes Z-ism even more racist because they're all white people, which is one of the reasons they hate the Pals.

Of course this is two years after your post, and we know Corbyn was assassinated by the Z-ists. But do you think he's not as popular with the electorate because they are much more brainwashed than the students? That would be the case here in the US. Middle aged and older here have been both deeply indoctrinated into the values of corporate capitalism and anti-socialism. thanks.

@@Windband1 No, Corbyn - and his more centrist successor, Keir Starmer - were taken down by an electorate that has never and probably will never embrace socialism, and certainly not as promoted by a politician who has spent 40 years of political life positioning himself on the side of the UK's enemies at every opportunity. That electorate is made up largely of people who go out to work every day and keep the country running and I don't think a few middle-class students without much experience of the real world, and generally can't even be bothered to vote in great numbers, have anything to teach them. Unfortunately for Illan Pappe's little theory, the Labour Party has lost virtually all its traditional support in the last few elections. The Conservatives have actually appropriated some of the economically left-leaning policies but seem to be a lot more patriotic and not obsessed with identity politics as the Labour Party has become over the last 20 years. The left still controls most of the institutions in the UK but politically, it's toast. Cheers

@@jimmylemessurier332 Interesting. Thanks.

@@Windband1 Thank you, you're welcome. Best Regards.

@@jimmylemessurier332 Yes, it is fascinating to see the left in Britain, compared to other parts of the world. Seems to be a very unique situation with their “working class “, if you can call it that. Lot going on there

I actually do speak elementary Arabic (Shaami), for what it's worth, although by no means fluent, and i can read

@@Transliminal Why are you not making content anymore?

@@FreeDomSy-nk9ueIn short, more gainful employment, which cuts down on time and mobility … i still have a number of interviews in the Zion series sitting unedited on my hard drive … am thinking of restarting an interview/podcast series, but it’s hard to justify at the moment, time-wise

@@Transliminal Glad you're doing fine though. Good look moving forward. People need more content of anti-war voices.