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On Predestination and the Doctrine of Sufficient and Efficacious Grace in St. Thomas Aquinas 

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@iteadthomaminstitute8031
@iteadthomaminstitute8031 2 года назад
@48:40, "unless there was a greater *GOOD* that was coming out of it." I'm sure people know what you meant :)
@tomato1040
@tomato1040 Год назад
The predestined actions that lead Heaven🌌🎶 are: Singing, Playing, & Dancing in sufficient grace 2 merit grace in grateful gracefulness. Divine Works that lead to salvation are not anal (in sex) or banal (in vanity).
@zipppy2006
@zipppy2006 2 года назад
@46:03 - "St. Thomas maintains that God does have a real desire for the salvation of all. You couldn't state that if at the same time there were creatures that had no ability to be saved." The non-elect have no ability to be saved. The non-elect have no potency for salvation, either from God or from themselves. It's hard to understand how this obvious fact is never faced up to.
@tiagoviana5161
@tiagoviana5161 Год назад
The reprobates can be saved in potency. They are not saved because of a deficiency on their part, not because of an insufficiency of help.
@ThruTheUnknown
@ThruTheUnknown Месяц назад
​​@@tiagoviana5161But they are never given the *actual* ability to correct their defect. Hence they are not able to respond to correcting it and thus *cannot be responsible* for their own damnation. God is able to respond to give them the actual grace needed but willing does not thus he is willingly responsible for their damnation in the 'banezist' system
@ThruTheUnknown
@ThruTheUnknown Месяц назад
1) To me it sounds like God would not be all powerful if he has allow someone to damn themself to hell to complish a greater good. 2) Either that or salvation must be due to foreseen merit i.e. God foresaw that the person reject his grace completely due to their own free will. Given 1 & 2 it seems that banezism is either heretical or wrong. Objection: The objector might respond saying that God must not be all powerful enough to overcome our free will in 2) To squash the objection it is admitted that God is all powerful enough to make us glorified biological robots and nobody denies God could do this.
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