Its not cry. Its just his brain dissolves images. When brain listens without experience or memory, words penetrate to brain. Not only that. Knowledge stays without any memory. Can't able to think as thinking causes head ache. So no image making and he doesn't creaty memory, he is not here. Its voice what we listening Nd enquiry of ourself
@@vaibhavkulkarni2496 & even so what you said is true, are you saying it because you see the truth of it or because you heard Krishnamurti saying it. As for me, honestly I feel great relief when i hear him, It stays for sometime but then goes away and I come back to him. I am still in the dark but would keep hearing him with love and affection and even if I died in darkness, I won’t regret it as I will have lived a life of honest trying.
The only way to stop listening to him is practicing what he Says because in that time you will try to find something Higher than what you got.. I do respect and Appreciate this man truly I learned a lot from him and I’m still learning.. and And believe me when I say that this man for me until now is the most important human I have ever Listen to🙏🙏 I hope you get what I mean because I know that my English is not really good . I use Dictionary when I listen to Krishnamurti😁
I first met J. Krishnamurti when I was 25... At that time, I was not ready to understand him. and I waited, I studied other philosophers in the mean time. Now that I'm 29, he has finally awakened something in me. It has taken a few years but I'm here now. I have just begun to see it. I know my path, there's a long road ahead and an exciting journey of awakening. Just as J. Krishnamurti has pass his candle to me, I too, will do the same and honor his legacy. He truly is an enlightened being.
Beautiful expressions..... Love is absence of me.... Mind is wonderful tool when we use it for in right way. Life is great and beautiful when we stop applying our conclusions and thoughts about
To find myself, at the age of 38, so limited with my wrongfully educated / conditioned mind is sad. But sadness, time, comparing are the tricks of the ego.
His philosophy is very much align with Buddhist concept of emptiness. If there is no "I" there is no suffering. That doesen't mean we don't exist or empty...
SUFFERING has a centre in ME.When we attend to it with total energy , it transforms into love, compassion. Our actions do not act but intelligence acts. Energy wasted by thoughts transforms into intelligence...GREAT..AMAZING..SIR K NO ONE LIKE U .THANKS
Can somebody explain what actually he said with a metaphor, I am just dying to know what he has said for seeing such an pure and sheer intensity on his face, please somebody help ?
LOVE HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH PAIN OR SUFFERING. Suffering is intrinsically linked to the ego or the "self," which is a construct of thought.The "self" is the source of suffering because it is self-centered, reacting with suffering when it encounters painful situations, feels threatened or hurt. However, when one gains a deep understanding into suffering, the ego dissolves, allowing actions to come from love rather than suffering. A true revolution in human consciousness leads to actions based on intelligence and compassion, which are not driven by thought or the ego.
This is very difficult to understand. There are several kinds of suffering... He insists that all suffering is put together by thought. Thought is the product of the "me", the ego. But how not suffering when you see injustice, or killing of animals, or other humans suffering from any disgrace ? Compassion, solidarity ? He insists on "when there's love, there's no suffering"... How can I look all human suffering and not be touched by it ? How can I look at all human misery and not feeling sad ? 😯
Go deep into why it is you suffer when an animal is tortured. For me the questioning goes like this: -Why do you hurt when the animal is hurt? "Because when I see/hear about it, that makes ME sad because I can't help but THINK about how bad I would feel if that happened to ME. Imagining the pain and relating it to MYSELF produces the pain." The capitalization isn't yelling, just notice the significance of those words. That whole thought process is entirely self-serving and does nothing useful for the animal being hurt. This is not love, but a desire to remain unharmed yourself. Pain is not necessary for loving action (like saving the animal) to take place.
Buddhist point of view is that The basic nature of Human Being is compassion.. Mother love for child is a very basis reason for our survival. That why we develop empathy when we see some others being be tortured.
I don't understand what he is trying to say. How thought is bad though pretty everything comes from it ? And he didn't give the answer to his question, if it's not thought then what is the action of intelligence and therefore love ?
It's not a direct answer as I'm still learning from my own observations. I see that most of my actions come from thought and generally serve 'me'. Even what I consider 'love' is also is secretly my ego working to fulfil its agenda. From what I get, all he says is if you could observe your thoughts in action you can detach from it in a way that there is an end to suffering (since you're merely observing it happen) and from that detachment there is a possibility of your actions arising out of true love.
Firstly K never preaches, he invites everyone to investigate, discuss and find for oneself all the answers. K says that if we can have the ability to intensely observe our pain,suffering without any evaluation by thought then that's the highest form of intelligence. We dissolve our being to become one with the observed.
Its not that thought is bad its that it is somewhat untamed or out of control. And he is saying it is untamed because it itself is kind of let go rampant unconsciously. But the job isn't to try to tame or control it, merely understand it. Perceive the "self" or thought with all its wants and desires, conflicts, fears etc. Understand how it works and that through all that real love cannot be. Thought itself then becomes more of a servant than a master or even a prison in which you are controlled. Which is essentially the intelligence in which he speaks of. He often will say "take a walk with me." Because he inviting you to look for yourself and to go through this process of understanding and intelligence with him or even on your own and gain insight.
You are intense because you have experienced it. The trigger is there. I am the same when an insight comes, and it also comes as an answer to a deep pain. To be able to experience no pain, one needs to heal and give it a chance to have a different perspective. That perspective heals and re-educates the mind as well. I am on this journey. Many will say, "It is now or never!". So is bypassing. It needs undressing of all the conditioning that has constructed the whole sense of self.
When i see him speack i see a man that is a light for himself, but he can't be a light for me. I can't follow him in his path when he's speacking. I know im drowned in thought and i cant understand deeply what he's saying. How can i find this place? This place where i can act not from thought?
Interesting the way K ended this talk.... same as the preacher in his story ended the sermon!! By leaving the audience like preacher in the story, was K trying to convey anything symbolically??
If someone tries to follow him.. Or try what he says.. Suffering will exist but it will be as a rainy day.. Will arise and will go .. Like a flame.. The me won't keep it forever because there will be no me.. No identification with suffering...
There is an identification of “I” there. That is why. What is the essence of suffering? It is the essence of self centeredness that causes suffering. As he says at 12:52 “love is not put together by thought, but the “me” is put together by thought.
When observing the behaviour of human beings they looks very happy, perfect as though they have abundance of Love in their heart, their relationship with other human is perfectly normal, I don't see any problem personally with them and everything looks like a drama.
The (me) can't never disappear..this is the biggest lie of krishnamurti...there is always thinking and where thinking is,there is a center..you can never escape from it..
The essence of this story is how important it is for us to do deep listening. Listening with mind, heart and with every cell. So he listened to the bird in that way and demonstrated to his disciples how to do deep listening. His sermon was over because he showed by example what they should do. Many gurus like Ramana Maharshi and Meher Baba also didn’t speak much.
