On the 8th Day - Nuclear Winter Documentary (1984) 

It should - Threads hits harder though…

Dude, TV used to be awesome. And FWIW, BBC still puts out some pretty fantastic stuff because they aren't just trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. PBS used to be excellent too, back when it had some decent federal funding. Those days are gone now. The Internet made TV less pofitable. There's less incentive to make things that involve development and talent. Now, TV just plays it safe. More of the same. Unwatchable if you ask me.

Believing in the devil in the first place is not a good start.

The dumbing down is real.

Now Trump/Brexit supporters would just shout 'Fake News' - The world has become full of morons.

@@TheDaverobinson no NOT believing in the devil is the dangerous part. The old saying is "The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people he didn't exist". I guess you are too young to understand. I get it. I use to hate the church. But then I realized, the Bible isn't a story to be taken literally, it's a guide on how you are suppose to treat people. The problem with Islam? One dude wrote it. One man. You ever met a perfect person? No, you haven't. If you forget you are capable of doing great evil, then you will indubitably cause those you love tremendous pain. Because you think you can be righteous, on your own. You can't. Trust me.

Not much just fiction. Been fake news for about 5 years now. 1/2 anchors are fired or facing charges for a range of crimes. Has some of the lowest ratings of all networks,back and forth with msnbc also fake news. Fox has more viewers watching one show than cnn does the whole day. But they will tell u diff. Just take the CNN+ online nonsense. They had to discontinue it cause pretty much no one would pay for fake news. They hardly want it for free. It’s the new Comedy Central. FYI

Yes agreed 100%. Not like the crap they pump out today…

TV in general is different to 40 years ago.

And then Rotschild bought it, and shut down all the stories about Gaza. Until then the BBC was the premier source for Palestinian news, it was a daily thing. Not anymore. I predicted this for years, got banned from numerous left wing channels for the effort. This was all set in motion when America decided Muslims weren't people on behalf of israel. The rest is academic. 33% of the Senate is Roman Catholic, vs 22% of the population. The founders of the CIA, FBI, DC and the designers of the Pentagon were all Catholic, so too Tucker Carlson, Beck, Hannity, Spicer, O'Reilly, Ingram, Pence, Hawley, Blasio, Manafort, Prince, Devos, Kavanuagh, Barrett, Gates, Fauci, Abbott, Manchin, Comey, Rogan, Jones, Dore, Kulinksi, Rubin, Pool, Peterson, Dice, Cernovich, Crowder, Molyneux, Fuentes, Yilanopouse, Pompeo, Spencer, Bolton, Abrams, Stone, Desantis, Bezos, Cuomo, Pelosi, Biden, Maddow, Colbert, Hayes, Cooper, Toocy, McEnany, Collins, Rubio, Cruz, Gutfeld, Mattis, Richardson, Ryan, Huckabee, Gingrich, Sessions, Guiliani, Flynn, Bannon, Barr, Christie, Richardson, Melania, Kelly, Conway, Gionet, Johnson, May, Blair, Thatcher, Trudeau, Merkle, Tusk, Farage, Morgan, Cowell, Ventura, Bolsanaro, Putin, Posobiec, Corbett, Robinson, Woods, Icke, Camp, Duke, Kirk, Watson, Iverson, Ball, House. 7/9 Supreme Court Justices are Roman Pro life is a foundational Roman tenet. Mayer Rotschild sent sons to establish banking operations in London, Paris, Vienna, Frankfurt, and Naples. Baron is a title given by the Holy Roman Empire, it is also known as Fiehrer, or Fuehrer. Baron (Baron and Fuehrer are the same title) Mayer Amschel Rotschild (1744-1812), was a court factor to the German Landgraves of Hesse-Kassel in the Free City of Frankfurt, Holy Roman Empire, who established his banking business in the 1760s. Wikipedia "The NWO will begin Sept 17th 2001 during Rosh Hashanah Feast of Trumpets, Resurrection of the Dead, the year 6000 of the Great Pyramid Calendar, in order to cleanse the Earth and Humanity in preparation for his Kingdom on Earth" British Israel Foundation memo 1922. Same year Boris Johnson's Great Grandad and Architect of the Armenian genocide Mustafa Ali Kemal sent Trump's Grandad Baron Don Von Drumph to America from Vienna Bavaria, Capital of the Holy Roman Empire. Same place Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Orwell, Freud, and Boris Johnson's Great Grandad have lived and come from, as well as Einstein. Oil giants Shell and BP are planning for global temperatures to rise as much as 5°C by the middle of the century. The level is more than double the upper limit committed to by most countries in the world under the Paris Climate Agreement, which both companies publicly support. Oct 27, 2017 (BP and Shell expecting catastrophic 5°C global warming by 2050) Methane from Beef farming makes up 52% of all greenhouse gases, and is 90% subsidized subsidised. Banning Beef subsidies could stall climate change overnight, but guess who runs the Beef Racket... "If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ. 'Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...' Let Him Be Anathama." -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II On Baptism 1545AD Matthew 3:11: “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.” The fire in this passage refers to the fire or inspiration of the Holy Spirit. "Furthermore we declare we proclaim we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation, that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff" Pope Boniface VIII, "Unam Sanctam" (Rome 1302) "There is no graver offense than heresy... and therefore it must be rooted out with fire and sword" Catholic Encyclopedia volume 14 (1911): 767-768 "A heretic merits the pains of fire... by the Gospel, the canons, civil law and custom, heretics must be burned" American Textbook of Popery p164 (quoting from the directory for the Inquisitors) "The true baptism is not by water but fire." Prophyry of Tyre 300AD "I propose an Aryan Semitic Alliance to create a superior Caucasian race" UK PM Benjamin Disraeli 1890 "Today I declare the Crusades won" General Edmunde Allenby upon capturing Jerusalem 1917 "But they want nothing but Palestine, because Palestine constitutes the geostrategic center of world control" Dr Nehum Goldmann, 1957, founder of the World Jewish Congress and President of the World Zionist Organization _"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or my grandchildren's time when the US is a service and information economy, when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries, when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgably question those in authority, when clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without noticing back into superstition and darkness."_ _"The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content and the enormously influential media. The thirty second soundbite, now down to ten seconds or less, lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudo science and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."_ Carl Sagan 1995 Representative Democracy hasn't worked in over 50 years because politicians will always come from the monied classes and be beholden to their Corporate Donors, only way we avoid this apocalypse is to stage a Velvet Revolution to install a Scaled Direct Democracy. Citizen Initiated Referendums with thresholds and a Social Contract using Blockchain technology means communities can vote their own policies without parties or politicians. Banning Beef, Oil, and Fishing Subsidies would stall climate change and habitat degradation overnight. Thorium Energy renders their global oil monopoly obsolete. Police can be actively policed by an independent public authority with the power to prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Or we can bend over and accept our Orwellian future

Yep the BBC is a bloody awful organisation now, obsessed with race and gender politics. Woke rubbish endlessly pumped out and their coverage of the COVID problem was nothing short of disgraceful.

1957user It's OK, but IMO the producers were too enamored of their special effects ... look, everybody has a skeleton inside them! And again! And again! And again!! We didn't know *any* of the people in those 'skeleton' scenes and after the attack, of course, we never would. Threads and a small American film called Testament were much better; they focused on people and not glitz.

Mona Irwin I sort of felt that the extremely graphic and accurate depiction of the consequences of a thermonuclear airburst were necessary for the film to get the point across. Like, "hey, everyone in your town will be vaporized before they can even scream if we go to war with Russia," sent the right message.

Mona Irwin Totally agree. Threads eschews flashy effects for real, human consequences (pissing yourself in fear, deciding whether to eat a rotting, possibly radioactive sheep carcass.) It's the most terrifying film ever made. God, the ending!

Threads was better done than the more widely-known "The Day After". I'm glad I downloaded and saved it when it was available.

vimeo.com/18781528 Paul Freeman cannot be more right! _Threads_ is an overwhelming piece of work that hasn't dated anywhere near as badly as "The Day After". It's very realistic, and looks a lot more modern than it actually is. It uses the artistry of filmmaking instead of cheesy effects. But I warn you, it's brutal and horrifying -- I'm 43, and after watching it I had nightmares. There are no warm 'n' fuzzy moments whatsoever.

Which side do you want?

@@MarkSmith-tp6zc ussr

How about a nice game of chess?

Naah , I want Global Thermonuclear War. How bad could it be?

Greetings Doctor Falken, shall we play a game?

It's a big lie. That's all it ever was.

I dunno man, the platypus is pretty whack.

We are all made of stars brother, we all go back to atoms

The dead will be the luckiest ones.

The book of Revelation in the Bible, predicted that yours would be a common sentiment in the end times. Revelation 9:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

One of ONE.

"A millisecond of brilliant light, and we're vaporized. Much more fortunate than the millions who wander sightless through the smoldering aftermath. We'll be spared the horror of survival." - Dr. Stephen Falken in the movie War Games.

Actually, as demonstrated in 2020 and 2021 - this is FAR more relevant today, as far less damage from not only nuclear weapons can have devastating, long lasting effects on too specialized and interconnected economy.

hasn'tnuclear winter been debunked as an idea?

@@Warsie what are you on about? Debunked by who? CNN? Snopes? Lmfao gtfo here.

imagine if they had Chernobyl data to coincide.

@@Warsie Not by any reputable body of science. But, much like the ultimate "judgement day," it's never happened before so people tend to not believe it can happen. That's dangerous thinking.

He would have been cancelled for not being woke

All that "White Privilege" would have made him very unpopular.

@@lilblackduc7312 Huh? what are you on about?

In the 2000s Carl Sagan and Bertrand Russell were quoted and used a lot in the Atheist Community online because religion was seen as such a big topic because of the war on terror, Islam, 9-11, it seemed like the number 1 issue at the time. A lot of people forget though they were both very passionately concerned about nuclear weapons as any rational person should be.

LOL...man after my own heart....imma get a cigar too

There we go, make it a party. We can laugh at the fools running for shelter.

Brian Paul I wanna survive at least long enough to wear my T-shirt with the words, "I fucking told you so!" printed on it.

Brian Paul Oh, are you saying the iodine tablets were a waste of money?

Although everybody says they want to sit under the bomb when one goes off there's a good chance it won't happen that way, there will statistically be more survivors than those killed from the blast. Suicide will come as unnatural to you afterwards as it does now because you have an inbuilt survival instinct. Put it this way: why is it that all people who have terminal cancer don't take their own lives? I mean the last couple of months are not going to be a walk in the park and they know they are going to die, but they don't all off themselves with overdoses or shotguns, slit wrists etc. Although in the terminal illness case the world around you hasn't gone to complete shit, but there's going to be that small bit of hope you have while you are alive that will make you fight through it even if you feel sick. I'm not saying suicide isn't the best option, if a global strike happens you probably are better off dead, I'm just saying its in your nature to survive unless you was suicidal already.

Every person in the government. That's where the delusion lies.

@@katdaddy469 no..I'm sorry.. but everyone has the delusion.. EVERYONE. 😕

@@pericbowen4958 sadly you are right

@@pericbowen4958 Not no damn everyone, speak for yourself. Some of us grew up during the Cold War & knew all to well about this stuff. Terrifying.

I dont want to know any of this depressing shit 💩

Not so historic now sadly

@@notgadot whoosh

Yes I know. I was being ironic as the topic is sadly now modern @@notgadot

@@HuplesCat It is still historic mate!

"There cannot be any Victor in a nuclear war" and we do know that, but we've lapsed into a false sense of security relying on common sense because if a nuclear exchange did take place it would all be because both sides couldn't find a compromise and neither side would back down until eventually one or the another would try and get in that premtive strike and then it would all go to hell.

What the world learned from it 38 years later:

I read comments that if Russia moves even one inch on NATO territory then we should flatten Russia completely. Most of the younger people are not even aware of what nuclear war would entail. They think it's just like shock and awe on Baghdad in 2003.

Well, Kamala said this could be fun and a new experience. It feels like a good thing.

Ozymandias: Nuclear ☢️ war is so old school. I was born 2003 and my generation is past this stuff. We say let these Nukes fly. With our belief in Climate change and LGBTQ+ rights and moral superiority will protect us. And any way everyone knows we get our food from Convience stores, not some far off field or something like that.

Thank you for adding my anxiety.

And don’t forget - raining down the smoke is usually called „Fallout“. This isn’t only dust in the wind.

This was covered in the BBC post apocalyptic movie Threads in 1984. Once the nuclear winter cleared the destructive UV rays gave cataracts to most people that were left.

@@atommi1 Don't worry, you'll probably be dead. This horrible scenario only applies to those that didn't die of heat, blast, radiation, toxins in food and water, starvation, thirst, criminal acts to get your food/water, and furniture or buildings crashing on your head or trapping you by pinning you down. All this in the first week. So, only those who were inside deep underground caverns with a underground freshwater supply, or were in their well-stocked bunker, or perhaps in the metro/subway system, or by chance in some valley far away from all blasts, or working in a mineshaft will be around long enough to suffer all the stuff @Professor6871 wrote. So chill. You'll be A-OK.

@@ZobethC Threads was amazing

43nostromo you’ll defiantly get laid.

Defo !

Lolz 😂

@JB GTO 👈 grammar police

If I could even get a first date :/

Do you think that if the Soviets and the Americans had engaged in a nuclear exchange and the exchange was limited to one target the Soviets would have chosen Kansas City? Lol, cities are known as countervalue targets and when the nukes are detonating over them it’s because the nuclear exchange has gone full scale, is past the point of no return with MAD having completely failed. Theoretically, both sides could agree to a nuclear exchange limited to one target and certainly would destroy counterforce targets under this scenario, counterforce targets being high priority military installations which would also keep the doctrine of MAD very much alive, allowing both sides to negotiate a ceasefire with countervalue targets held hostage. Reaching insensate war or full scale general nuclear attack where both sides suffer complete destruction was so low on the probability scale during the Cold War, game theorists found it nearly impossible to even game a scenario where it happened.

@@GeoffCK the movie gave a reason why kansas city was bombed ... brb ...

@@marifromky I think you’re missing the point of my comment. Perhaps strategic nuclear doctrine is a bit to complex for you.

I beg to differ - first EMP and later post war scenes in shortage of everything.

To geoff ck., et al: You make some valid points, but you are still way off target; there are more than enough bombs to do the job, and Kansas City would be a target. To put things into perspective,, I would suggest reading "Alas Babylon', and imagine yourself as a national leader, bent on destroying your enemy. What would you do? First, you would make more than enough nuclear weapons to do the job, and "harden" potential "nerve centers" and strategic weapons sites, or make them "mobile". In the case of The United States, and NATO; that is why we had (and still probably have) a third of our bomber fleet, in the air, at all times, plus the rest of the fleet, on 15 Minute Alert, at all times. The Minuteman Missile Command and troops, would be in hardened "silos" scattered across the Country, and ready to go, at all times. While The United States probably doesn't use the railroads, to keep their missiles, mobile, The Soviet Union did, and Russia, does. The United States also had nuclear-powered submarines, at sea, and moving constantly, armed with Polaris, and Poseidon Missile Batteries; These have been updated, to Ohio-Class Submarines, armed with larger batteries of Trident Missiles. The Headquarters of the joint Strategic Defense Command, or NORth american Air Defense system (NORAD), is deep within Cheyenne Mountain, in a hardened facility; capable of withstanding all but the very largest nuclear explosions. Likewise, they also have power supplies and systems, protected from EMP. The same is true, of the Strategic Air Command, near Offutt Air Force Base, near Omaha, Nebraska. There was also "Looking Glass", a mobile Command Center, at Andrews Air Force Base, near Washington, D.C.; ready for use, by The President, and the Congressional Staff, and Military Leaders, on stand-by; at all times, and there are persistent rumors; about a large bomb shelter, ready to accommodate The President, Congress, and the Military Command, somewhere in the Appalachian Mountains, and a short flight from Washington. No doubt Russia, and perhaps China; have similar facilities. So, regardless of who attacks, first; retaliation is assured. Next, there is the matter of targets. The priority targets would be the facilities that I have already mentioned. That is the reason for the mushroom clouds, over the Kansan Farmlands; these were Strategic Facilities being bombed, and in most cases, the missiles and bombers were already on their way to Russia. The retaliatory infrastructure would be targeted, first. Next, would be the Army and Navy Bases, and related facilities, including depots, and urban supply, and transportation Centers, including Government and Communications Centers. So, there goes Washington, D.C.; New York City, Norfolk, and Hampton Roads, Atlanta, Columbus, Austin, Richmond, Chicago, St. Louis, The Twin Cities, New Orleans, Albuquerque, Denver, Great Falls, Salr Lake Ciry, Bosfon, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco... well, you get the picture. Next would be manufacturing facilities, atomic weapons facilities, like Portsmouth Nuclear Energy Facility, in Ohio; Fernald, near Cincinnati, Oak Ridge, and Hanford; along with other, "Targets of Opportunity". The same would apply, to Europe, Russia, China, Korea, and Japan; until strategic, and tactical, nuclear weapons arsenals were exhausted, or nearly so. If anyone wanted to, or was capable of fighting; past this point, there are always explosives, Chemical, and Biological Weapons. So, say "Good Night", to Humanity. Just in case you think I don't know what I'm talking about; the reason that I listed Columbus as a secondary target, is as follows: Columbus is a State Capital, Defense Center, and had been a SAC fueler Base, as well as an Ohio National Guard Air Base. North American Aviation, which manufactured the A-5-A Navy Attack Fighter, was located just south of John Glenn International Airport. The Defense Construction Supply Center, was located just south of North American; with Bell Telephone subsidiary Western Electric, located about 2 miles to the east. About 8 miles south of this area, was Lockbourne Air Force Base, where a Strategic Air Command refueling "wing" of KC-135s was based. The Ohio Air National Guard was probably also stationed, here; and still is. Add to this, The Seat of Government, in Ohio; is located about 6 miles, West-southwest of North American, and D.C S.C., with other State Buildings close by, and County, and Federal Government Offices in the Area. Add to this, Rand McNally has rated Columbus a #2 regional trade center, and Railroad Yards, major roads, Warehouses, manufacturing facilities, oil tank farms, etc. are scattered throughout the area. While some of these factors have changed, I don't believe the rating would. My "scenario" would call for a 500 KT, or 1 MT bomb, dropped at the center of a triangle with these facilities at the points, say, near the intersection of I-70, U.S. Route 33, and James Road; with Alum Creek Drive, and Ohio 104; both important local highways; nearby. This might destroy all three targets. A second scenario would have three 50 to 100 KT weapons dropped at each point , destroying each target, with the simultaneous merging of the explosions destroying the entire area, plus additional damage, beyond. I will leave that, to people more familiar with those effects.

John Doe .... evolve.

Eh South America, and Africa look pretty safe. Maybe parts of Northern of Canada or the big chunk of Russia where there isn't anything. Guess that's where they should build all the vaults. Could probably repopulate the earth if you preserved enough life. Though the big problem with that is you'd definitely need nuclear power to be able to sustain society underground for extended periods of time. Which would probably then make those places targets for nuclear strikes.

And they wouldn’t need to use the whole arsenal of weapons to hit every single target on that map, so tell me, who would survive a nuclear holocaust? Answer, the same idiots, that metaphorically, pushed the button and those with money and power, not you or I, just those who have everything now, and would then expect the average person to put everything back together again, haha, jokes on them, there won’t be enough off the average population left to do their bidding, guess they would have to get their hands dirty and pull there weight for once. The government know that the United Kingdom would cease to exist in a nuclear war, that’s why the Civil Defence organisation was disbanded, not for the cost savings, but purely because they would not make a difference, nothing would. 👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

leathery420, you could well be right, but one small problem, nobody knows what would happen to the world 🌍 orbit or the geological events that it could, or should I say would, be caused by a MAD scenario, on top of the nuclear effects there would be earthquakes, volcanic events, Tsunamis, and probably weather events that make a F5 Hurricane look like a spring breeze. And for anyone who thinks I am scaremongering then I have to reply that I am just being a realist, but DILLIGAF about that, I wouldn’t be around to find out, I would be sitting in my favourite chair, gin and tonic in hand hopeful that it’s a quick ending, even if I could survive I wouldn’t last very long or be of any practical help with anything due to my ill health, and I wouldn’t want to be a burden or use precious resources that others would need more than me.

Good game.

Why is it named On the eighth day?

Thats the time period they use in the video. Eight days after a nuclear war. Could also be a tie in to the Bible and the Creation story. I'm guessing though.

@@KillingDeadThings that's what I was thinking :prophecy. On April 15 it's 8 years from the first blood moon of the blood moon tetrad. In the bible a year it's like a day. The blood moon tetrads have a very significant prophetic meaning. So I'm thinking this could be predictive programming, if you're familiar with the term.

Benny Hill 🙂🙂🙂

As a fellow Antipodean I was feeling fairly safe watching this until they started talking about the smoke streamers and one in their diagram went straight across Central Vic, where I live. Yeesh!

@@mstakenidentity iron maiden cart and horses pub

U mean politicians survive

@Mario Legend Filthy nasty disease

Or mole rats lol

Hahahaha

They will outlive us all

2022 you can say that again. Although our numbers are much lower now.

Hear, here! Take Care🦋

Esp now in 2022

One of my favourite quotes!

In reality, there would be no World War IV. There would be nobody there to fight it.

Einstein: I have my doubts about that guy.

what rubbish the 4th world war well be when Russia who has planned to win a nuclear by surviving it, due to a mass civil defence system. then once they rebuffed they will invade the west and the USA if there is anything left to invade in the west nuclear war is very winnable if you prepare beforehand !!! as the Soviets worked out in the 60s

@@Mr71paul71 No, the Soviets did not work it out in the 60s. Or else the Cuban Missile Crisis would not have ended the way it did. Also, neither the US or Russia want a nuclear war. Even before "The Day After," both sides knew what would happen. The movie was just a fresh reminder.

I was 9 in 1984, It was a scary time.

@@w.t.fpipedreamwithhopefull5538 18 in 84'.

@@elconquistador932 Did you feel there was tension and a "strange" vibe at the time. (I'm Australian and from a small town)

@@w.t.fpipedreamwithhopefull5538 There were times when things seemed a bit scary. But being a teen in the 80's was pretty awesome. My mind was focused on girls and muscle cars most of the time lol. I lived in a small town as well, in Wyoming.

@@elconquistador932 Ground Zero in "The Day After".

Davy K - spot on. The planet supported the dinosaurs 65 Million years ago absolutely fine - if we completely wreck the planet, we may well die out but the planet will live on and be up and running again in a relatively short time. I sometimes find that comforting; for example when the news is telling me how much damage we are doing, despite the fact it wont do us as a species any good. Nigel McQuinlan - if your family is of a similar level of intelligence as you, then survival is about all they can hope for - nuclear war seems to be the least of your problems.

The planet will go on, but the biosphere is something we are capable of destroying by our actions. It may be that life in some manner will continue, but there is the possibility of leaving Earth uninhabited by anything grander than bacteria, if that. We have a responsibility.

Very true.

last i heard it was 2-3k years

like George Carlin once said: "the planet is fine, the people are fucked".

@Pool Bal sadly your right , it's just happening in different way, people just don't understand

What is even more sad is the fact that these types of conversations and programs seem impossible nowdays.

Human beings learn by making mistakes.

@@777jones A good percentage never learn from their mistakes. That's why history constantly repeats.

Yeah I finally watched that a couple months ago. I've been exposed to a LOT of disturbing, violent, and horrific shit in my life. Seen more death, suffering, madness, and human depravity by the time I was 20 than most people experience in a full lifetime. So not much shocks, surprises, disturbs, or scares me in any real way anymore. Despite all that Jesus, God, and Lucifer wept did the "The Road" ever disturb, terrify, and cause the most soul-crushing, existential nilihistic hopelessness that I honestly thought wasn't even possible to feel anymore. Apparently the original novel is even more disturbingly dark and nihilistic than the movie was.... Ugh. Yeah I literally dreamed of nothing but ash covered dark dead forests for a week after watching that damned movie. I think what disturbs me most about it all is that I'm one of those people that would still fight to hold on and keep going. To try and create some kind of future, no matter what I'd have to do. But yeah thought I'd add my thoughts after seeing The Road mentioned, cheers.

Its better to read The Road it makes you listen better.

The movie from 2009? I might watch it tomorrow, is that the one?

Why is it named On the eighth day?

Agreed. My human optimism says things wouldn't be so bad as "Threads" portrays, but my experiences of humanity bely this optimism. Americans don't like the film purely because it is so negative and has a bad ending. They are "Day after" people. And I think they would be severely disappointed if the SHTF. If Germany had developed a working nuclear bomb of any description, Hitler wouldn't have hesitated to use it. And, since America was the first, and also didn't hesitate, I think we should all be very worried. I'm damned sure that if the USSR hadn't been gifted the information by a few insightful, worried people, Russia would by now be largely uninhabitable. We are a long way from being out of the woods.

I've watched the three you list above too. I agree that Threads succeeds in showing how things could pan out in Britain, I think it's a lot more 'raw' than the American films.. Any Government that was in charge should a nuclear war kick off, would not be able to do anything except to try to ensure its own safety along with the Monarchy. The general population would have to take care of its-self. I thought that B.D.E.L. was better than The Day After, telling it's story from a more military point of view. I think though that anarchy would reign a lot quicker than the drama's presume it would. The aftermath of a nuclear attack would be horrific no matter where you lived. Britain could probably be destroyed beyond reason with as little as a dozen modern day nuclear weapons. If, in the 80's the Russians had decided to come west, we(in the RAF) were informed that without either nukes or Neutron bombs being used they could roll into London within 48 hours from their first move.

I just watched Threads, here, on youtube.

Debra Sparks Pretty bleak, isn't it?

Out of all of the post nuclear war films, Threads is pretty much the best, closely followed by The Day After.

so instead of death....it would be even worse death

@Serious Face A fate worse than a fate worse than death?

Good comment, thanks

@Snickersbite I was talking about the informative original post!

@@stevetattersall5933 A worse fate more worse than a fate worse than death,only worse.

Hey 1984, shit will get real in a little place called Chernobyl in 1986. The Soviets will lie about it. And then it goes quiet for a bit and everybody pretends to be friends. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, after terrorists fly some planes into things. Massive fucking tsunami in the Indian Ocean in 2004. Shit gets real again in Japan in 2011 after an earthquake causes a meltdown. Russia and China manage to piss the rest of the world off by 2020. North Korea keeps up the anti American rhetoric, pandemic.... and Donald Trump is still president of the United States, heading for a second term. Bet those nukes look pretty good now!

Yup

@@sianedwards7493 yeah but the 🛸 can shoot them down so it won't happen.fact

I'm seriously worried about what India and China are going to do about a border disagreement.

Like this video c1984, or the book/film, ”1984?” (Yes.)

I've got the Threads DVD n I've watched it a couple of times. The last time I watched it was with my mum n her bf, so they have a round idea of what it'd be like if Putin does decide to launch a nuke. Before she watched the film she wanted to survive a nuclear war but after watching it. She like myself now wants to be a grind zero or close enough to be killed by the initial blast but if it didn't. Then you'd want a gun to be sure. I sold mine quite a while ago to pay my rent.

@@TheManLab7How the War Started This Russo-Ukrainian War has its direct origins in the events between 18-23 February 2014. A coup (given 2 sanitised names, "The Revolution of Dignity" and the "Maidan Uprising") was engineered in this time via Western intelligence services, (which will remain unproven for some time yet, in the same way the WMD lies green lighting the invasion and conquest of Iraq in 2003, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of 1964 (more lies and engineered confrontation), the USS Maine blown up in 1898 (it was a boiler malfunction but presented as an act of Spanish evil), (don't get me started on how the USA entered WW1 & 2 but extreme provocation by the US is a mild observation) and official and active encouragement from Western politicians, NGO's (including those of George Soros), as well as by pro-Western Ukrainians. Testament to this was the physical presence of Secretary of State John Carey; Chancellor Angela Merkel; Victoria Newland (a Jewess whose father was a Ukrainian Jew, is currently serving as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs and, in 2014, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State); the US Ambassador to Ukraine (which breaks fundamental diplomatic protocol to the most extreme degree), among many others, in Kiev, actively encouraging the ousting of the recently elected pro-Russian Ukrainian President Yanukovych, touting the age old shallow cliche of "freedom and democracy!" That's means pro-Western in this context. Point of note: Victoria Newland said to the US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, in Febraury 2014, that the EU would not commit to getting involved with igniting a coup in Ukraine, with Nuland adding "Fuck the EU." This is caught on tape and when you consider Horrible Hillary arrogantly shouting out that if Russia was seen as involved in manipulating in American elections that it would be seen as an act of war and clearly indicated that America's response would be WW3. Biden and several others have openly called for a coup in Russia as well as Putin's assasination. A lot of your politicians need assassinating as too many are arrogant, evil and mad. I'm being dead serious and write as I find. The Crimea The coup d'etat that took place caused the Russians to rapidly act regarding the obvious danger of entirely losing the Crimean Peninsula. That month, on 26 February 2014, Russia deployed its military to Crimea and by 26 March 2014 secured Crimea. On 18 March 2014 Russia annexed Crimea. Crimea previously had an agreement when the USSR ended on 26 December 1991. Ukraine realised (then) that it was pushing things too far to have Crimea and cut Russia off from the only principal naval base and port, Sevastapol, they had - it's the only appreciable warm water port Russia has. They agreed to share it. With the coup of February 2014, that comfortable understanding was clearly in jeapordy. Crimea had never been a true part of Ukraine (ethnically, religiously, culturally, politically). Since Russia became an appreciable country in 1613 with the eastablishment of the Romanov dynasty ot Tzars and Tzarinas, (it has a very eventful history stretching back a lot further than that of course), it justifiably regarded Crimea as it's essential access to the outside world, via a prized warm water port. Ukraine, of course always has the Black Sea port and naval base of Odessa. The U.N., needless to say, doesn't recognise Crimea being part of Russia. This alone has led to tension. It has far less justification for recognising Israel but does. This, in spite of the Jewish nation state that existed before 1948 ceased to exist in 136 AD! The Donbass The eastern provinces of Ukraine, Luhansk and Donestk, in the region called the Donbas, broke away from Ukraine in February 2014 and are still fighting a war of independence against Ukraine. That war has been ongoing since 6 April 2014 when Ukraine started a war to regain these 2 regions. Ukraine was very much the giant compared to Luhansk and Donetsk - in spite of covert Russian support. Russia, tellingly, has kept that war as low key as it can. Because of Ukraine's geography and history, the east and west of Ukraine differ. Unsurprising, as it's a big country. The east is oriented towards Russia (broadly Russian Orthodox religion), the west oriented towards Europe (broadly Roman Catholic religion). In the course of Ukraine's existence since 26 December 1991, it has garnered the dubious distinction of being the 4th most corrupt country on planet Earth - which takes some doing when you look at the stinking, foul fish corpse the City of London, Beijing, Dubai, Tel Aviv, Bombay (Mumbai is a stupid name) and Wall Street are. Jews are heartily disliked by Ukrainians, in particular, as the former USSR goes, for very understandable reasons, as Jews represented an extraordinary proportion of the fanatic Commies in the murderous Cheka, NKVD, Red bureaucrats and commisars who unleashed one horror after another on Ukraine, i.e. the 10 million (the magic 6 million is a lie) Ukrainians killed off in the Holodomor (1932-33), the Purges (1932-35), the innumerable summary executions in the Civil War of 1917-23). Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a Jew. Yet he only started his political career in March 2018 and became President of Ukraine on 20 May 2019. Previous to this he was a comedian and actor. It's highly likely that he was elected by fraudulent means. The Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion is a Ukrainian military unit that is specifically funded by Jewish groups. Stephen Cohen (a Jew himself), who was Professor Emeritus of Russian Studies and Politics at Princeton, in an article on Ukraine called “America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis,” says that the coup government in Ukraine since February 2014, has systematically rehabilitated and memorialized Ukrainian Nazi Germany collaborators. Among the Nazi collaborators memorialised by the present government of Ukraine, headed by President Zelenskyy, is Stepan Bandera who allied with the Nazis and committed atrocities against Jews (Soviet and Polish), Poles and Russians. Sakwa reports that “a giant portrait of Bandera was . . . on the stage during the Maidan protests/coup d'etat.” Zelenskyy's military adviser and undisguised psychopath, Oleksiy Arestovych, (blogger, celebrity actor [notice a pattern here, as most of Zelenskyy's entourage are media types], political and military columnist, former diplomat, former spy, former soldier who says he's been in 33 battles in eastern Ukraine since 2014) has publicly stated that ISIL/ISIS's conduct of terrorism, burning people alive when captured and put in cages, torturing, decapitating with blunt knives, pure sadism and medieval cruelty (modern cruelty is plenty sufficient) is an admirable method of getting successful results due to the fear it sows. He says ISIS is a shining example of best practice for government and is the template for the future. He says Ukraine is not bound by International Law. All of this reflects well on America, as the USA backed ISIS, (for many years, just as it backed Al-Qaeda in the latter stages of the Soviet-Afghan War, i.e. 1988), in its civil war against Syria. The USA backs America's current Golden Boy, Pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy (whose wife is a film scriptwriter) to a far more marked degree compared to Bin Laden and ISIS. The Ukrainian Armed Forces' partial success in "valiantly holding back the Russian bear" is put into context when flagrant breaches of rules of engagement and International Law are routinly broken, eg: they site rocket launcher batteries within the midst of apartment tower complexes, causing Russian counter counter battery fire (which is usually over the horizon) to triangulation of the location, causing unecessary civilian casualties. The Washington Post stated that the Ukrainians are at fault here - justifiably.

@@martinidry6300Incoherent kremlin propaganda. You have been taken in by russian distortions of fact and history.

Donald Trump is pushing for a nuclear war

I miss the old BBC ..

Depends... Might be helpful

Everytime I listen to this sentence, I feel sick as hell and terrified ... :'(

Me too.

try living near an airport or near a stream of airport traffic

Japan, 1945...

i sit within 10 miles of robins AFB....it is a top 5 target in a nuclear exchange....yall on your own...i'll die so quick even God would ...WTH are you doing here?..hehe

That movie was horrific, it scared the hell out of me when I was a child

Threads is better in a good bad way

2022 May sense and sensibility lead and prevail

Slim pickens.rode that bomb,

Well we have to close that "handy plastic computer gap" with the Ruskies!

I found that book in a book store a month ago. The "computer" was the clincher that made me buy it without hesitation.

@@KC0FZZ That computer will be a collector's item someday... if there is a someday.

That's probably where they got it from! And, Dr. Strangelove, probably got it from information they got from the government!.

Now if someone could only get he ABC ViewPoint episode that preceded The Day After back up

Yeah imagine that actually following scientific method. The good ‘ol days. The method would help these days for other topics they seem to conveniently disregard facts and methods and just spit out the conclusion certain people are looking for and EXPECT from them. SAD state of affairs

To be honest I've always found the argument that nuclear scientists predictions are off so we shouldn't be that afraid of nuclear war. It matters not if 1 billion, 100 million, 1 million or even 1 thousand people die. One person dying due to dick measuring contests between global elites is too many.

@@judd0112 are you sure?

Would a madman actually care though? I don’t have the slightest doubt that Hitler wouldn’t have used them. I wonder what a fundamentalist nation would do if they had them, such as Iran. And there’s no telling what Putin may do. I think we’re just hoping that a coup might sort things out there, but on the other hand, if the present conflict escalates and things also go awry in North Korea, China, the Balkans, the Med and the ever volatile Middle East, I fear rhetoric, not science, will shout the loudest.

I am astonished as well. Also why so many people have cancer

iron maiden cart and horses pub

Fake ass shill.

@@mattengels22 what?

@@mattengels22 lol, that "shill" is pretty much the reason you're alive today, stupid punk.

I really hope Richard has watched this. We need to make sure he sees this

Yes, and the city that experienced night time in the middle of the day is Yakima, and it’s pronounced Yeah-Kim-mah.! 😳

Now fools think its in Oregon lololol it's Washington state fools lol

Yeh it's on RU-vid you'll find modern day Carl Sagans and good content like this.....the days of TV providing rational programming are over.

@BC Bob👈 scamsapien

If this happened i just went out in one huge last party. Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish lol.

BC Bob 👌

@@skankhunt3624 covidiot

@@mrsuns10 another covidiot

Right. I miss that age. No political agendas and screaming at each other.

@@Hilaire_Balrog Don't fool yourself. There was plenty political agenda in MSM/Hollywood/Gov.

Sure ok.

@@dorkle9085 You weren't there.

@@RideAcrossTheRiver That doesn't mean I don't know that the TV from back then had a lot of propaganda as well.

Watch Threads, far more chilling than The Day After.

Zooumberg Yeah,Threads was brutal,almost-overwhelming.Amazing,intriguing movie though.

I watched The day after for the first time, in a period of my life where i was really depressed, on the brink of suicidal. After watching that i had frequent panic attacks and catastrophic dreams for days. Shortley after i was in for surgery, and as i was druged it felt like i was on my death bed with doctors trying to save my life. Summa sumarum: Don't watch theese movies if you are experiencing depression or panic attacks.

Ducesweden How are you feeling now ?

Swane knoctic About watching the movie?

+Oilsmoke Jones As the line in The Peacemaker goes "I'm not worried about the person who wants ten nuclear weapons General, I'm terrified of the person who wants one"

Justin Lee Profound..

Oilsmoke Jones Very

No matter. You can charred to death wondering why nukes wasnt kept the peace any longer. Nuclear war is inevitable, thats what Oppenheimer realized. He knew and thats why he said "i'm become death, the destroyer of worlds". You could have the false hope and maybe you wont live long enough to see the war, but it doesnt change the fact. Until nukes or the knowledge how to build one exist, we are doomed.

ForMan Kind Oppenheimer was a wheezing commie who understood nothing about international politics or human nature..that's why Truman pulled his security clearance..

Well it's an interesting proposition... The only problem is...someone decided to try it out!

2024

DON'T PANIC !

Oooh is that an audio book on YT? We read restaurant at the end of the universe, for homeschool and loved it. Douglas Adams rest in peace.

👍 I got it. Thanks, we will be including it this year.

That story started pretty much the same Cheers! (and thanks for all the fish.) 🙂 ❤🙏and Peace

not any more in 2022 we're the closest we've ever been since the Cuban Missile Crisis

Every Man women and child 🚸 lives under a nuclear sword 🗡️ of Damocles, hanging by the slenderest of threads,capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or by madness Unfortunately We All Live On One Planet and we are stupid enough to continue to threaten are existence on it every single day because now in 2022 no one wins in Nuclear War and that last result continues to get closer and closer as the doomsday clock ⌚ ticks away until eventually there will be no point of return and no redos for the human species with the biggest brain 🧠 on the planet that uses it for stupidity to blow each other up and make it easier for a demise instead of all working together Like Roosevelt and JFK wanted before they died talking about we all live on this planet and breath the same air and drink the same water but in 2022 between 2 catastrophic recessions and inflation during a world pandemic and the biggest land war in Europe since WW2 shows us one thing folks. We never learn from are past and history continues to repeat itself over and over again and we we expect a different result but it's always the same like Napoleon once wrote history is a pack of lies agreed upon by the crooked rich and powerful not everyone else who suffers because of it and that = By Far The Biggest Costliest American War Disaster In History all connected piece by piece to the mess in Europe and Middleast Now on ever level possible.All the terror groups we faced in the last 20 years came from the Iraq war mess in 2003 one of the worst lies in American history still feeling the catastrophic effects today in 2022 the french knew the truth from the start and Bush went to war anyways when the CIA and UN disapproved and couldn't find a anything close enough to be a threat to America and even worse the Bushes people try to find and make up bullshit to satisfy dick murderer Cheney and Colin stick my head in the sand like ostrich and let them walk all over me Powell who could have changed the situation if he stood up them but chose to be a cowardly 🦁 lion instead which has put the world in 2022 in the most uncertain times in history since WW2 and on the brink of Thermal Nuclear War.

Such a good song and band

Still a good song though.

+Paul Morphy THE BEST FLOYD ALBUMS all written by Roger. David Gilmour uses alias on FB Paul Murphy lol

gullivera love pink floyd.did you see live at the wall 1990? classic!

Yes mate , good call on the quote

7700Purplexity. NO FUCKIN SHIT.

I wish someone would tell the lunatic-in-chief that.

@@mariakelly5 OrAnGe MaN bAd!

He can't fire nukes without going through the house of reps + Senate. It's to stop presidents going rogue.

But someone, somewhere, with an agenda, and more money & power than you, will always refute you models with his models, which tell him it won't be all that bad. Then you go down in history as a fraud while he reaps all the adulation and admiration as well as more money and power. That's shy I say fuck it, let 'em fly. People aren't worth a shit.

To be fair it wasn't OUR planet, it belonged to the voth who evolved 65 million years prior to the humans and now rule most of the delta quadrant.

I live in a small country village about 11 miles away from an industrial city that was largely bombed in the blitz, so hopefully it would finish me off quickly, I don't wanna survive in a world like that, a dystopian fall out zone of disease and radiation, "I want to be pissed off my head and right under it" as said In Threads. I used to be rather Pro-Nuclear but now I've seen Threads, I've become more of a Nuclear peace hippy.

+GeorgeCan Quickscope Best thing you can do now is move further away and bring loads of food and water and at least 6" lead to make a shelter! Other than that, stay and enjoy the fireworks for a millisecond!

Path. Follow path. Gate. Open gate, through gate, close gate. Last ferry 6.30, run, run, run.

threw through...mistakes like this start thermonuclear wars. time to become a diplomat?

Daniel McGillis is

And when the wind blows,even though it was an animated film it showed just how unprepared the average person would be.

Sheffield, you live to far away from the sea! You should come to Liverpool were all the dickeads wear masks and are scared to go out because of a silly lockdown which in reality is all a hoax, still better than Wales where you cannot buy a pan or blanket, the people have no idea what it is all about, it is really about the paper identity being killed off and a new digital identity with no property ownership and cashless world with a communistic way of living.Corona virus is real but it not about what most people think it is. FEAR FEAR FEAR is what the BBC ITV and all media are pushing. When you are under stress you are not able to think clearly and The mind controllers (government get away with anything, look around you we are in a world where the population has gone NUTS and well behaved slaves

@JZ's Best Friend No longer available... But thanks

Its important not to tax ones intelligence too much.

Do you have a link? Thanks Cheers! Keep safe God bless

Either way, he was right.

The Population Bomb (1968) might be what he is best known for.

wrong. he was a prof of biology .

It took you forty years to read one book?

@@ms-jl6dl Key word: AGAIN. I've read it at least 4x since I bought it.

I think we still are, but, life in the modern world has done, and, is doing, so much to distract humans around the World, from focusing on this primal threat to the existence of Life on Earth.

demand disarmament. You dont have to just rely on your occasional prayers to fickle deities and pin your hopes on supernatural beings.