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The Chernobyl disaster and the fall of the Iron Curtain in space. In Hamlet, the Undiscovered Country refers to death. It's part of the famous "To be, or not to be" soliloquy. Gorkon using it to refer to the future is very apt. Starfleet is based in San Francisco, the Federation Council and the Office of the President are in Paris. The late, great Christopher Plummer played Chang. One of Canada's greatest Shakespearean actors (Shatner once understudied him in a play and blew the critics away with his performance). Plummer is very famous for playing Captain Von Trapp in The Sound of Music (not a favoured role for him).
Star Trek has always been a mirror of the times and this movie was made during the fall of the soviet union to which Chernobyl had no small part in bringing about Reagan got the credit but it was the expense of cleaning up the worst nuke disaster in history that brought the soviet union down.
@@jeffreymiller6847 Star Trek VI was nominated in two categories at the oscars: best makeup and best sound effects editing. The film was not a nominee for best visual effects, but the two-dimentional shockwaves of Praxis blowing appart was a first. This kind of special-effect is today known as the praxis-effect
The shapeshifter is David Bowie's widow, Iman. The rattail Klingon, General Chang, is best known for _The Sound of Music,_ Christopher Plummer, whose daughter Amanda played a villain on _Star Trek: Picard._ This had the same director as _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan._
Apparently George Lucas liked the expanding ring from Praxis exploding, he used the effect in the updated CGI Star Wars trilogy, adding it to the Death Star explosions. Michael Dorn (Worf in ST TNG) plays the Klingon defence lawyer. The (late) René Auberjonois is unmasked in an extended version as the Klingon assassin at the end. He was Odo in Deep Space 9. Yes, thats Christian Slater in a cameo, he's a big Trek fan.
The character played by René Auberjonois in this film is a Starfleet officer named Colonel West. In the extended version, he appears earlier on to present to the Federation President a potential military operation to rescue Kirk and McCoy from Rura Penthe - which would obviously be a violation of the condition set down by Azetbur for continuing the peace talks. Of course, the crew of the Enterprise went and rescued the dynamic duo anyway, but the Klingons just decided to ignore it because they were able to expose the conspiracy and save the peace talks (and thus ensure the continued existence of the Klingon Empire).
16:48 Another Fun Fact for you: Actor Michael Dorn, who plays Kirk and Dr. McCoy's defense attorney, Col. Worf, is also in Star Trek:The Next Generation, and the character he's playing in that series is the grandson and namesake of his character in this movie
On a side note, there is an episode of _Star Trek: Voyager_ that relates to this film; the episode in question (episode 3.02) is titled, appropriately enough, "Flashback," and features parts of Star Trek VI from another perspective. Several actors reprise their roles from Star Trek VI in the episode.
@@chrisnielsen9885plus they got the timing wrong. TUVOK said Kirk was arrested either 2 or 3 days later after the moon explosion. It was 2 months later in the movie.
@@mem1701movies Yep, I remember that one. It was a pretty glaring error. Then again, given the situation in that episode, maybe Tuvok's memory slipped... 😬 Possibly more egregious is a certain character's appearance in the curtain call at the end of Star Trek VI if what happened in the Voyager episode actually happened the way we see!
I’d heard it as they didn’t want to use Robin Curtis, Kirstie Alley was too expensive, and they didn’t want to have a third actress play the role so Kim Cattral played a new character
I loved how, at the end, they change the "... where no man has gone before" to "where no ONE has gone before" (to encompass the fact that the galaxy does not just have humans, but many other species as well).
One of my favourite quotes in all of Star Trek is when Gorkon says to Kirk: "If there is to be a brave new world, our generation is going to have the hardest time living in it." How very true! As Kirk says at the end of the movie, a lot of people are afraid of change and the unknown ... the "undiscovered country".
Klingons like To be or not to be. Hamlet appeals to them. In one book there's a performance at a Klingon base, they don't care for acrobatics or animals. But when one starts doing Hamlet's soliloquy, they sit in and applaud.
The Special Edition goes even further with the late René Auberjonois as West, who is the Klingon assassin. Worf says that it's not Klingon blood since it was red (one of the reasons for showing so much Klingon). blood
Another fun reaction! All I can say is that even when I first saw this movie in '91, I felt then as I do now--this was the perfect ending which the original series didn't have (the show was abruptly cancelled in 1969). Every element was well-balanced, especially the action, the mystery and the humor. The actor who played General Chang was Christopher Plummer, who has starred in dozens of great movies (his daughter, Amanda Plummer, just recently played a bad guy in the final season of Star Trek: Picard). In fact, Plummer and Shatner had worked together before, performing Shakespearean plays early in their respective careers, in Toronto! David Warner, the actor who played Chancellor Gorkon, had a cameo in Star Trek 5 as St. John Talbot, the Federation representative taken hostage by Sybok. This movie is such tremendous fun and I'm glad you had fun watching it, too!
Sulu's communications office is Janice Rand - who played that character in the first season of TOS before she "transferred to another ship" in the middle of the season. She's also the transporter chief in TMP, and has cameos in The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home - even if you know to look for her, blink and you don't see her - if she had lines the scenes were cut . ALPHABET SOUP (common abbreviations fans use) TOS = The Original Series TAS = The Animated Seties TNG = The Next Generation TMP = The Motion Picture (ST1) TWOK = The Wrath of Khan (ST2) TSFS = The Search for Spock (ST3) TVH = The Voyage Home (ST4) TFF = The Final Frontier (ST5) TUC = The Undiscovered Country (ST6) Sometimes ST: for Star Trek (plus a number if needed) is placed in front of the series/movie designation - this film is ST6: TUC or a Roman numeral might be used instead of the Arabic numeral
Starfleet HQ is in Frisco, Federation Presidency is in Paris. Originally V'Leris should have been Saavik but the plot leaked and fans were outraged to see a beloved character betray the crew like that. So they changed the character to a new one. However, it mekes the story more obvious because we wouldn't have suspected Saavik in the first place had the scipt not leaked.
I was 12, when I saw this in the theater. December 1991, baby! I was too young to piece everything together, so my young mind was genuinely surprised at how things unfolded. Though they did give away the secret of the cloaking and firing Bird of Prey in the trailer, with just the briefest of glimpses. That one, I did figure out beforehand. 🖖😀
Before you get to the next movie, you should know that the one after it (FIRST CONTACT) is a sequel to a couple of episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation TV show. The episodes Q WHO?, THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS parts I & II, and FAMILY, specifically. The same way Wrath of Khan follows up on Space Seed. However, I actually recommend you watch them even before the next movie (Generations), just to get (some) handle on the characters.
01:00 After the events depicted in Star Trek III up to here, it was implied by Sulu's lines about the USS Excelsior that he would shift his Career path towards eventually taking Command of Excelsior as her Captain, hence his infatuation with the Ship in III and IV.
35:02 This line here, Leonard Nimoy described as "speaking in a double voice". He was speaking as Spock to Kirk, but also as himself to William Shatner.
The thing with people saying another culture is responsible for something (old Vulcan saying, only Nixon can go to China, Shakespeare in the original Klingon) is a fave of the director, Nicholas Meyer. Happens in Wrath of Khan, too. Except for Chekov saying Cinderella is a Russian epic. That was always a trait of Chekov, always saying everything originated in Russia. It just sorta went away in the movies some.
Valeris was supposed to be Saavik, but they couldn't get the actress they wanted for Saavik so they renamed the character. I wish they kept her as Saavik, it would have made the betrayal way more impactful.
26:59 "How Would It Have Gotten Onto The Uniforms?" Well, blood droplets got into the transporter beam when these assassins beamed back to the Enterprise. It would've gotten on the Uniforms then
There is a Director's Cut of Star Trek VI, which is only available on Digital and 4K Blu-Ray, I highly recommend you watch that version as well, too! Includes a few new scenes added to the movie! It's only logical. 😃🖖
When did you realize the Klingon chancellor was the same actor who played the Terran ambassador in _Star Trek V: The Final Frontier?_ Valeris was supposed to be Saavik, but Kirstie Alley was too expensive, they didn't want Robin Curtis back, and they didn't want to recast the part *yet again,* _plus_ Saavik had passed into "beloved character" status, so making her a traitor would have driven the fans to madness, so they rewrote Spock's old protégée Saavik into his new protégée, Lt. Valeris. Unlike Saavik, who was half-Romulan and had not been raised on Hellguard according to Vulcan culture and customs, Valeris was a full-blooded Vulcan raised on Vulcan.
FYI, star trek's tendency of reflecting the real world issues. This film came out around the time f the fall of the berlin wall & several critical industrial accidents, reelected in the destruction of praxis & the ceasing of hostilities between star fleet * the kilngons.
Some thoughts: 1) Yep. Starfleet Headquarters (and the Federation Council) are in San Francisco but the President of the Federation is based in Paris. 2) I love the subtle, but clear difference in power between the Enterprise and the more advanced Excelsior. Even with shields up, torpedoes leave scorching on the Enterprise hull. But when the torpedo hits Excelsior, its shields just gobble the whole thing up. Not that it's totally important, but it does help explain why the Excelsior class became the standard-bearer for the Federation for the next 75 years. I also like how you spotted all the "problems" with Valeris from the start (there are some added scenes in this version of the movie that makes it a bit more obvious but you were already onto her even without those).
6:55 "He's Got A Good Beard" Interesting Fact about the design of Gorkon's appearance: When the production staff were creating the character of Chancellor Gorkon, they basically had him as a Klingon emulation of Abraham Lincoln, thus the reason why he's got a beard but no mustache that connects to his beard
So good. Saw this twice on opening day back in early '92 and then several more times before it left theatres. Star Trek does a detective mystery political thriller. I do love the late great Christopher Plummer as Chang in this quoting Shakespeare every chance he gets. Plummer and Shatner were old friends and contemporaries coming up through Canadian theatre with Plummer becoming a big movie star in the early 60's thanks to The Sound of Music. Also director Nicholas Meyer (who also made Trek 2) is a huge Sherlock Holmes fan and a novelist which includes having written a successful Holmes novel (The Seven Percent Solution) and I love how he has Spock quote Holmes here with Spock referring to Holmes as an ancestor of his. 😂 A great swan song for the full crew together in one last adventure together.
The US/USSR narrative in the story was undeniable. I was 13 when I saw this in the theater, and then witnessed the Soviet Union collapse a few days later. Talk about timing!
This movie came out around the same time as the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Unification, Parts 1 and 2" (with Mr. Spock). Spock cites the events of this movie to justify his actions in that particular TNG episode (I don't want to release any spoilers). This movie was also heavily influenced by the events of Chernobyl (Praxis) and the fall of the Soviet Union (peace between the Federation and the Klingons).
BTW, the shape shifter was the model Iman, who was married to David Bowie. And, I hope you go right to the 2008 or 2009 version of the original Star Trek instead of the Next Generation. The newer versions of the original gives you the main characters, but with a different history. Very interesting, and a remarkable set of actors who really capture the essence of the originals. Thank you for this great reaction!
37:56 "Why Is It Coming Back At Us?" Spock and Dr. McCoy modified this photon torpedo with sensors that would normally be used to catalog gaseous anomalies, thus making it able to home in on the vapor trail that was being left behind by the Bird-Of-Prey
Saw this in the cinema when it was released. Great movie, loved it and a great send off. Next, sit back relax and enjoy the next generation of movies 👍🏻 My vote: If you’ve never seen it maybe we can suggest a handful of TNG episodes you need to watch before starting the next movie which brings in those cast. Definitely start with Encounter at Farpoint (S1 Ep1). You’ll certainly need some TNG episodes under your belt for First Contact especially. Also, you may also want to expand and be familiar with DS9 and Voyager so that you pick up on references that are in the movies as well. Newer Trek you can watch after the TNG movies.
A worthy final sendoff for the original crew! Still a great movie today just as good as Wrath of Khan I feel. Can't help but get ssad at the very end as the Excelsior and Enterprise part ways and we say goodbye.
I remember watching this in theaters. Of course, I had already seen all episodes of TOS.... so knew going in that "peace was coming" at some point. The episode featuring the Organians foretold the events of this movie, but without any actual details. Only that "One day, the Federation and the Klingons will be fast friends". This movie tells of how that peace/friendship came to be. There was a loose kind of peace treaty enforced by the Organians... but that only set up the Federation/Klingon "Neutral Zone" to keep them apart. Much like the one between the Federation and the Romulans. But it was foretold that at some point, a REAL truce between the Federation and Klingon Empire would see them "actively work together". The Next Generation (MINOR spoiler here) goes into some of the details of that working relationship. That's all I'll say on it, because I want you to enjoy the journey of discovering that series. Also, I love that this movie ended with the autographs of the cast members. Such a fitting end to "The Original Cast", after 3 seasons of a television series literally no one believed in at the time, and 5 previous movies that basically were demanded by the loyal fanbase.
it had to be the original Kirk that was beamed up. The shape shifter couldn't assimilate a rare metal like a beryllium locater patch attached to Bones and Kirk, and if the original kirk had been disintegrated so would the patch and he wouldn't have been locked onto and beamed up
You have no reason to trust her except that she's a Vulcan. The actress (Kim Cattrall) also played Samantha Jones in Sex and the City - a "try-sexual"(she'll try anything once) maybe you're getting that vibe from her.
38:14 in all of Star Trek until now Scotty has never got to be the guy that saves the day. The most he's ever done is fight, fight well mind you, but never the hero.
You may not have picked it up, but Kirk's last order Second Star to the Right and Straight on Till Morning are the directions Peter Pan uses to find Never Never Land.
@@WillTalksMovies and if you think about it there's a secondary meaning that's where Peter Pan and the lost boys go because you never have to grow up in Never Land.
You got it,mate! Yes valeris....but I think there is more to this than they led on. This movie is like 6 years after ST 5. My first clue when Kirk's log is at the trial and then seeing the extra footage added in
Christopher plumber who played General Chang, also played the famous lawyer in the old film inherent the wind film about the scopes monkey trial. And he got to play the prosecutor for the klingon govt and did it really well. (I was fortunate to get to see him do inherent the wind on stage and was able to sit in the jury box on stage on broadway, tix warned u that the view would be different etc) plumber was a great actor, go look up other films he was in. Also for st 6, meyer didnt want kirstie alley but the other lady who played saavik robin curtis who wasnt available and thus they got kim catrell (famous for being in big trouble in little china as gracie law and sex and thr city as miranda jones) Ive always loved st6 and the quote from Shakespeare the film is named after is in hamlets soliloquy of the to be or not to be, 2nd verse of it. Thr undiscovered country hamlet is thinking of is death, the unknown of it, he was contemplating suicide in that scene etc.
Valeris was originally written to be Saavik, but they couldn't get either Kirstie Alley or Robin Cook to reprise the role. So they created the new Vulcan out of whole cloth. But would you have suspected her as quickly if it was an officer you'd spent several movies with her?
0:16 Fun Fact for you: David Warner, the actor who played Chancellor Gorkon in this movie, was in the previous movie as St. John Talbot, the Federation representative on Nimbus III
Wish Paramount hadn't flubbed up with the more recent releases of this one by putting out only the theatrical release. The extended version includes a few extra scenes that shows how far the conspiracy went on the Starfleet side.
You had a lot of weirdly good guesses about what was going on this movie! Nice job with that! 😉 You should definitely keep going with your Star Trek adventure! The Next Generation is next, they made a bunch of movies too, but you should watch at least some of the TV show first just so you can get familiar with the new characters and plotlines, which will be relevant to those movies! I always enjoy seeing new people experience Star Trek for the first time! Great videos so far, and I hope you continue the journey! 😁
Star🌟Trek VI was made on a very modest budget @ the time. That's the reason why sum of the special effects have been reused from the previous Trek movies for this film 🎦 And why sum of the production values look a little cheap - for example the Camp Khitomer set. Also if the director, Nicholas Meyer had his way, Saavik would of been the character who betrays the original crew. But creator Gene Roddenberry argued & said 'No.' Nevertheless, it's a terrific film 😁👌 A great reaction to a 🌈TREK🌟 film. Live, long & prosper Will 🖖🙂
That was wonderful. You did a great job you acted just like I did when I first saw in theaters. You’re like one of us. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Don’t worry Star Trek still is good. The next generation is it takes to get used to, but it’s really good. I wish you’d go back and see the original series for real self at least because it is really good to see why the they earned their six movies by the way, if you like Captain Kirk and the old generation will be in one more movie for a little bit they’ll be the first next generation movie called generations, but that’s not after the generation next generations over with great scenes with Captain Picard except for the very end, but you’ll find out Stuff with you I’ve seen this movie several times one of my favorites of all time but seeing it with you I really enjoyed it more than I ever had before. It’s like seeing it again for the first time thank you so much for the experience. I think we’re friends, whatever you in the future I’ll be here to see it. Thanks for the fun until next time.
27:30 "Was it a Russian epic?" -- That's a running gag with Chekov from the original series; *everything* was "inwented in Russia." 🙂 29:40 -- This was actually a bit of an idiot-ball moment for the characters. 😞 An earlier draft of the script had them resorting to the printed books from Uhura's personal library (she's a communications specialist) because *someone* (no prizes for guessing who) had deliberately wiped the Klingon language from the Universal Translator's databanks. Which would've been a much better explanation; I don't know why they changed it.
When I first watched this movie I did not suspect Volaris at all. Her behavior was normal kryptek for a Vulcan. If you had watched the original series you would know that. Originally they were going to bring back Savic from Star Trek 2 and 3. They felt that I'm familiar character being a traitor would have really surprised people. But then they realized that Savic was too much of a beloved character. They couldn't do that to the fans. So they created Volaris and wrote her character as close to Savic's as they could. That's why most fans did not see coming even with all the clues.
For Star Trek First Contact, you'll at the absolute least need to have seen The Best of Both Worlds from TNG. Ideally you'd want to watch all the Borg episodes, plus Family, and Drumhead (which both reference events from Best of Both Worlds).
Regarding Volaris being the conspirator. If you had grown up watching Star Trek you would have never suspected a Starfleet officer because it goes against their codes. It doesn't matter that she is half romulan.
I flip flop between this and Khan being the best Trek films (hell, the best FILMS of all time.) But I have to say I was super impressed by how much you guessed. I still remember going to see this twice opening weekend!
Valeris was supposed to be Saavik - but it came down to - Did they want to tarnish Saavik's reputation with the events of this move and recast the role a third time or make a different character?. I get why they wouldn't want to bring back Kirstie Alley having had Robin Curtis in the role in two more recent films - not sure if Robin was unavailable or read the script and decided not to do it because of the character arc.
The Next Generation indeed. You should have caught some episodes of TNG before watching this one, since that series started 5 years before this film was released. This film serves as a connection between the two generations. The Klingon defense council Col. Word is the great grandfather of a main character in the next generation for instance. Also connecting the two is Kithomer, next to Klingon, Romulan and Federation space. The end of the film leads right into TNG with the phrase... "To boldly go where no man... Where no one has gone before." Because the tag line was changed to "no one" for the next generation. So my vote would be to continue on to TNG. From the original Enterprise to the NCC-1701-A of the last two films to the NCC-1701-D of TNG 👍🏻
Really enjoying your star trek journey! If you are able, I'd recommend watching the top episodes from each season of the original series and then moving to the next generation! 🖖👍
These are not my personal picks. This list includes all episodes that give you the background you'll need before you get into the STNG movies, and all episodes that IMDb has rated a 7 or higher on their 1-10 scale. This also includes episodes which are sequels to other listed episodes regardless of rating. I've also included all of MAMoreno's additional picks as long as they rated a 7 or more. (Honestly, a list of which ones NOT to watch would have been much shorter, 54 total.) I've also included STNG's worst-rated episode (that isn't a clip show), simply because it would be fun to see you react to it. I HOPE NO ONE SPOILS WHICH EPISODE THAT IS! This should give you the "full experience" without having to waste time on stinkers... ...but keep in mind: Star Trek is like sex. Even when it's bad, it's still worth watching. 😁 My updated recommendations (in order): SEASON 1 (10 omitted) Encounter at Farpoint (pilot) The Naked Now Where No One Has Gone Before The Battle Hide and Q Haven The Big Goodbye Datalore 11001001 Coming of Age Heart of Glory The Arsenal of Freedom Symbiosis Skin of Evil Conspiracy The Neutral Zone SEASON 2 (11 omitted) Where Silence Has Lease Elementary, Dear Data The Schizoid Man A Matter of Honor The Measure of a Man Contagion Time Squared Q Who Samaritan Snare The Emissary Peak Performance SEASON 3 (8 omitted) The Ensigns of Command The Survivors Who Watches the Watchers? The Bonding Booby Trap The Enemy The Defector The Hunted Deja Q Yesterday's Enterprise The Offspring Sins of the Father Allegiance Captain's Holiday Tin Man Hollow Pursuits Sarek The Best of Both Worlds 1 SEASON 4 (7 omitted) The Best of Both Worlds 2 Family Brothers Remember Me Reunion Future Imperfect Data's Day The Wounded Devil's Due Clues First Contact Galaxy's Child Night Terrors The Nth Degree Qpid Drumhead Half a Life In Theory Redemption 1 SEASON 5 (6 omitted) Redemption 2 Darmok Ensign Ro Silicon Avatar Disaster The Game Unification 1 Unification 2 A Matter of Time New Ground Conundrum Power Play Ethics Cause and Effect The First Duty The Perfect Mate I, Borg The Next Phase The Inner Light Time's Arrow 1 SEASON 6 (2 omitted) Time's Arrow 2 Realm of Fear Relics Schisms True Q Rascals A Fistful of Datas The Quality of Life Chain of Command 1 Chain of Command 2 Ship in a Bottle Face of the Enemy Tapestry Birthright 1 Birthright 2 Starship Mine Lessons The Chase Frame of Mind Suspicions Rightful Heir Second Chances Timescape Descent 1 SEASON 7 (10 omitted) Descent 2 Gambit 1 Gambit 2 Phantasms Attached Inheritance Parallels The Pegasus Homeward Sub Rosa Lower Decks Thine Own Self Genesis Preemptive Strike All Good Things 1 & 2
Just so you know, Valeris was a replacement for Saavik. Gene Roddenberry insisted that Saavik's legacy should be unblemished, which is a shame. The mistery, and the revelation gut punch, would be much better if Robin Curtis were allowed to reprise her role.
While true Gene didn't have the final say. They wanted Kirsty Alley back but she wasn't available and they didn't like the way Robin Curtis portrayed Saavik. Kim Cattrall didn't want to be the third actor to play Saavik so they allowed her to develop her own Vulcan character.
Real time line - Star Trek: The Next Generation premiered in 1987 - before The Final Frontier or this film Events iinvolving Klingons in TNG (and to some extent The Original Series) are at odds (in particular) with events in this film - for instance Klingons don't bleed Pepto-Bismoll anywhere but here* - If you watch TOS you won't recognize the Klingons (because of old TV budget vs later movie budget0 and you have to use head canon figure out (or just ignore) if The United Federation of Planets is at war with or have a peace treaty with them* because it's never made clear (in other words, the the treaty in TOS, the treaty here, the treaty established a year before this movie in 3rd season TBG - none of them are the same treaty. Gene Roddenberry - creator of Star Trek (the franchise but in particular of TOS, TAS & TNG) did not consider this movie or The FInal Frontier canon. * Looks like it was mostly color corrected in a remaster - in the theater the blood read pepto-pink.
The first two seasons of Next Generation are (imho) very much like The Motion Picture - dry, kind of wooden, trying to find its own voice. Many of the early eps are repurposed scripts (or at least plots) from earlier Trek versions. Generations is a transitional film, passing the torch from TOS to TNG. I guess it was necessary to move forward. Its sequel First Contact is when the Next Gen crew really come into their own. Much like Wrath of Kahn, the second film in the franchise is where they finally live up to their potential (again, imo). Perhaps not coincidentally, there are strong 19th century literary ties to both films. Neither would exist - in their current form - withoug Herman Melville. You have a lot of fun watching and great storytelling to look forward to. As for STNG S1, I always found The Arsenal of Freedom a classic Trek episode - even if it feels like an unsed TOS script. It really is vintage Trek - kind of projecting contemporary social issues into the 24th century, but making its message unsubtle and unavoidable. Have fun, however you decide to proceed. There's lots to like ahead. 🙂
I'm willing to nominate 12 episodes from the original series and 12 from TNG. I've just picked out the ones I really enjoy, and have left out some from TNG that need more background knowledge. (Like Redemption.) Original series: 1. The Menagerie Pt 1 & Pt 2 2. The Galileo Seven 3. Arena 4. Tomorrow Is Yesterday 5. The Devil In the Dark 6. Errand of Mercy 7. The City On the Edge Of Forever 8. Amok Time 9. Mirror Mirror 10. The Doomsday Machine 11. Journey To Babel 12. The Enterprise Incident With TNG, I have cheated massively on Number 7. I love Season 5, there are so many 'puzzle box' episodes, neat little sci-fi stories that I want to include them all. I chose possibly the best as Number 8, Number 7 is take your pick. 1. Encounter At Farpoint Pt 1 & Pt 2 2. Elementary Dear Data 3. Q Who 4. Who Watches the Watchers 5. The Best of Both Worlds Pt 1 & Pt 2 6. Darmok 7. Disaster OR The Game OR A Matter Of Time OR Conundrum OR Power Play 8. Cause and Effect 9. Time’s Arrow Pt 1 & Pt 2 10. Relics 11. Chain Of Command Pt 1 & Pt 2 12. All Good Things . . . Pt 1 & Pt 2 Arguments will now commence as I've missed out some classics. I'm really enjoying your reactions to my favourite sci-fi universe, and long may they continue.
@@WillTalksMovies Okay, that's great. Lots of new people are going back to the start and it's great fun for us oldies. Yes, I was there when Star Trek first appeared on the BBC. There had been a comic strip before that, in the TV21 magazine (which was largely about the Gerry Anderson properties like Thunderbirds). I didn't think I was going to like Star Trek because it had a weird-looking spaceship and everyone kept calling each other 'Mister'. 8-year old me didn't know about the Navy. Of course, I was hooked from the off. I'm looking forward to your own journey!
Watch at least some original series episodes before watching next generation. They aren't all excellent but there's some fantastic episodes that you wouldn't want to miss.