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One MAJOR Question After the 2023 Procreate Dreams Event 

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My initial thoughts following the Procreate Dreams event on September 9, 2023 and one big question following the presentation.
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@theelitebrawlersbakuganleg4224
Honestly procreate dreams has me so excited, especially since I'm an animation student! I'm sure the app will do wonders for not only the animation community but the art community as a whole The one question I was left with after the announcement was the fact that in procreate we had the base animation tools but eventually it became its own app in procreate dreams, but procreate also has some 3d features to it even if it's just painting models, but could we maybe see the release of a 3d modelling and animation app for procreate another 5 or so years down the line? Procreate World's maybe even as a name haha
@okredstone5481
@okredstone5481 Год назад
holy sweet jesus that would be cool, imagine… *Procreate Worlds* even the name actually sounds pretty cool
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and perspective! Procreate was such a game-changer for drawing, calligraphy, and even the 3D painting tools that they have in the current app so I'm really excited too! I think it made art accessible in a lot of new and exciting ways 😃 Their take on a 3D modeling app would be fascinating since they are so good at the UI experience... What an amazing world that would be to have drawing, painting, and 3D in one "Universe" of apps - the Procreateverse! 😂 😁 In the meantime, I can't wait to find out more about these updates! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts 😃
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
I agree - this would be so amazing!
@ItsXylnt
@ItsXylnt Год назад
As an animation student I see this as an absolute win. Especially being a one time payment, I hope dreams get updates and love that it’s a one time payment. I’d definitely invest 100$ in procreate apps if they had a whole line up for like 3D modeling. Animation, Something like After effects or even something vector based. Especially with the quality they put in procreate which is actually cheap compared to professional desktop apps.
@DaveCummings76
@DaveCummings76 Год назад
Based on what James and a couple of other people at Procreate said, these new features are indeed coming to the original procreate
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
That would be so awesome! I'm so curious to test all this out and also find out more about device compatibility! Thanks for sharing this! 😃
@the_catboi
@the_catboi Год назад
Procreate Dreams is a no brainer buy. I just hope the older ipads like mine from 2020 isn't going to suffer much from feature losses. Like I hope the Animation gestures and tools aren't just limited to never iPads. but either or I'll buy the moment it comes out. I love the ipad and animation on it would be amazing
@FrilledMayfly_AmberlyFerrule
As a 2d hand drawn animator, you actually use full 24 fps very sparingly, mostly for fast movements, this is animating on ones (one drawing per frame). Most animation can be done animating on twos (1 drawing held for two frames), you could animate just setting the fps to 12 but the ability to switch from one to the other in the same animation is important. Some animators do animate at the full 24 fps, like Richard William used for The Thief and the Cobbler, but most frame by frame isn't done like that since its twice as much work. Who Framed Rodger Rabbit had to be at 24 fps to keep up with the moving camera, or else the characters wouldn't look like they're moving with the camera
@fourtwentythree
@fourtwentythree 10 месяцев назад
Some Anime = 0.5 fps 😅
@seanohaimheirgin1047
@seanohaimheirgin1047 Год назад
You'll still have memory constraints. 1m x1m pixels addressable doesn't mean that there is data stored for every pixel in that matrix. Images will be contained in chunks and those chunks will have their place in the matrix. Too many chunks and you will run out of storage. Apple's Freeform app does more or less the same thing.
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
I was thinking the same thing - a 1m x1m pixel document/canvas size seems crazy, particularly on a mobile device. Thanks for sharing your sharing your insight, Sean. I was actually wondering something similar - if that 1M x 1M canvas actually represents the upper bound of what the new engine is capable of using with the device memory and processing ability. Sounds like I need to play around with the Freeform app - thanks for sharing!
@MandrakeRoomba
@MandrakeRoomba Год назад
Callipeg does that too
@abscruiser
@abscruiser Год назад
Just worried about storage, I will be enthusiast to animate on iPad with insane resolutions, because often my canvas are 6 o 7 thousand x 1080 projection for events. But then layered sequences become very fast huge stuff for storage, So the software will handle fast external drive?
@NarveeStudios
@NarveeStudios Год назад
my biggest question is which iPads would be able to run this updates & new app. I'd like to see a list of compatible devices.
@RajivNarayanan
@RajivNarayanan Год назад
From Procreate on X ( Twitter) More information on compatible devices will be available soon - this won’t just be for Pro devices, we’ll be shipping with broad iPad support.
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
That's a fantastic question!! I was also wondering the same thing watching the keynote - the features they described seem pretty crazy for a tablet so I'm wondering if the numbers quotes are only for the highest-specced iPad and what'll be possible on lower spec/older devices. I'm hoping that they can make the app more functional and accessible for older devices as well - I definitely want to test and confirm this. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!
@TedMattos
@TedMattos 11 месяцев назад
Hey Tamer! Long time, my friend. Hope all is well. Just getting into Procreate so I'm pretty excited about Dreams. So much to learn. So little time! :)
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry 7 месяцев назад
Hi Ted! Thanks so much and yes indeed, so much fun stuff to try and play with these days!! 😃
@ronaldbell7429
@ronaldbell7429 Год назад
The largest canvas on an iPad is not 16384 pixels. It's 268435456 pixels (16384 * 16384). Just saying.
@saramations
@saramations Год назад
This is correct. I was going to make the same correction
@Cipas
@Cipas Год назад
Can’t wait for the release
@darkashes9953
@darkashes9953 Год назад
But can you do a full length feature animation film 1 hour or 2 hour ?
@maurorenard82
@maurorenard82 Год назад
This is exactly what I was thinking about!! I have an iPad Air 4, would I be able to use Dream? Would I get more ayers on Procreate?
@tucoerquilenne6765
@tucoerquilenne6765 Год назад
Yeah, sounds like they are going to do a huge update with the M3 release. That's when I am upgrading my base M1 IPad Pro to a 1 or 2 TB M3 IPad Pro. It's going to be interesting to see how Procreate changes over this next year to a "next gen" app. It will also be interesting to see how layer limit works with Ram limitations in the current Procreate. Especially if we are getting those insane Canvas sizes.
@thewebstylist
@thewebstylist Год назад
And just One time $20 WOW!!
@EchoJ
@EchoJ Год назад
My big question is does this new Procreate engine mean _older iPad models_ will enjoy most of the upcoming feature improvements like those mentioned with the .dream extension, or is this going to mean buying an M2-chip iPad Pro 🤔
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
That's a really great question and one that I'm wondering about as well! I've always appreciated that, even though some functionality is limited (like, I believe the 3D painting tools are only possible on the M1 and up - I need to double check that), that most iPads can run Procreate (I even still have a functional version of the original app on an iPad 1!). I'm very curious to find out which models will support the Dreams app and what new Procreate functionality will work on lower-specced/older iPads. I'm hoping that the new engine is more efficient and may be able to run on more devices, or it may be limited to newer, M1/M2 devices... I'm very curious to find out more about all of this and hope it's not limited to M2 devices an up. Can't wait to find out more and thanks for your feedback!
@loriyeager2451
@loriyeager2451 Год назад
I was wondering the same thing. He said it so fast and by the way... I know I wasn't the only one at home screaming "Wait! Can we address that sentence right there!"
@MaSs.animations
@MaSs.animations 11 месяцев назад
Do you think it will replace Adobe programs?
@flootzavut30daychallenge
@flootzavut30daychallenge 11 месяцев назад
I'm so excited about both the new app and the possibility of huge canvases in Procreate OG, I'm mad I have to wait three more weeks!
@MissChelle
@MissChelle Год назад
I watched the dreams announcement video, I don’t remember hearing that they were updated the current app. ❤️🇦🇺
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
it was suuuuper easy to miss! I clipped the one line mention in my video (It's in the last third of my video and around the middle if I remember right of their full keynote I think just after they discussed the file format and resolution). I was so surprised that that was the only mention of anything for the original Procreate app - it was so quick! I really hope to find out more about exactly what's going to be updated in Procreate 😃
@superNova5837
@superNova5837 Год назад
Based on core purpose I’m thinking New painting engine for performance The new file size (there might some restrictions depending on your hardware I’ve seen this occur with the 3D importer) Export as .dream (this in theory would save out the file and undo history so it can be used in dreams) For animation assist performing? Not fully sure Non destructive filters sounds like it could help in some cases
@FrancisGo.
@FrancisGo. Год назад
I like those specs. 🙂
@megatron3800
@megatron3800 Год назад
another mind boggling thing is that with such an astronomical canvas size, procreate doesn't necessarily need to be vector now. A raster image that's 1M×1M pixels is simply vector.
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
That's a good point! 😃 At that size and resolution you could probably create a print or piece of art that could cover the moon! So pretty much a vector drawing at that point 😃
@rybfish76
@rybfish76 Год назад
This is soo cool! Procreate Dreams + Midjourney is going to be fire! What a huge win for Artists everywhere.
@SAMTHINKS2
@SAMTHINKS2 Год назад
So what do I need the drawing app for? What can’t Dreams do?
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
I'm actually wondering the same thing - it seems like everything Procreate can do will be improved and still bundled into the new App. I'm thinking that perhaps Procreate will be a much more streamlined and efficient tool for drawing whereas Dreams will have a of features that aren't needed just for drawing. I am curious if both apps will use the same file format now, making the files interchangeable. I've applied for their beta program so I'm hopeful to get some details soon!
@kurt407
@kurt407 Год назад
Still no off canvas work space?
@saramations
@saramations Год назад
that’s going to be a feature in dreams and an update to procreate.
@kurt407
@kurt407 Год назад
@@saramations oh? How do you know?
@rowbyrowby
@rowbyrowby 11 месяцев назад
I hope that is true - specifically can I have “everything” kept on an external SSD drive, accessible in real time while working. In other words,no iPad storage limits Please provide us with your source for this feature. I have not seen that mentioned anywhere. Or perhaps I am misunderstanding your statement.
@donnydarko7624
@donnydarko7624 11 месяцев назад
Someone said it has iCloud integration@@rowbyrowby
@ButchBarker
@ButchBarker Год назад
so waht was the question?
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
They mentioned very quickly in one sentence that "all" of the features would also be coming to Procreate - so my question is what exactly is meant by "all" the features are coming to Procreate? I'm assuming we would be getting undo history saved (it goes away in the current app as soon as you return to the gallery view), the new massive canvas size options (so layer count limitations may not be a concern any more), otther efficiency improvements from the new engine, new .dream file common to both apps? They didn't really elaborate so I'm curious what updates are actually coming to the original Procreate app
@Muthukaviyarasan
@Muthukaviyarasan Год назад
🙂👍🙋🏻‍♂️
@FrancisGo.
@FrancisGo. Год назад
First. 😮
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
😃
@marcellofrisina6460
@marcellofrisina6460 Год назад
For those who saw this and actually now believe that hand-drawn animation is 24 drawings per second, most animation is not actually 24 drawings per second. Usually it plays at 24fps on 2’s or 3’s, which means it’s more like 12 or 8 drawings per second. Still a lot of work, but as a hand-drawn animator I can tell this guy hasn’t done a lot of that himself
@rowbyrowby
@rowbyrowby 11 месяцев назад
Dreams storage method is what I am wondering about The reason I chose LumaFusion over the iPad version of Final Cut Pro was because LumaFusion seamlessly supports an external SSD drive. Final Cut Pro for the iPad does not support an external SSD drive. With LumaFusion your entire project can reside on the external SSD drive - both your original media and the actual edited video. Unless you want to, nothing is stored on your iPad. With LumaFusion, everything works instantly with the external SSD drive. There are no delays, no waiting. It’s as if the external SSD drive was actually a part of the iPad itself. I use the Magic Keyboard so I power up my iPad by plugging the power cord into the Magic Keyboard - I have plenty of power that never runs out. And I plug my external Samsung 4TB SSD Drive into the usual iPad right side port. I sure hope that Dreams will support an external SSD drive in the exact same way that LumaFusion does. However, in all the promotional materials from Procreate Dreams - and all of the Dreams demos on RU-vid - I see no mention of this capability at all. If it was a feature you would think this would be something to brag about!
@sunshinegurl1461
@sunshinegurl1461 Год назад
I have a question. Will we be able to voice our characters in the animations too? It would be so much fun!
@holijay5502
@holijay5502 Год назад
I am always surprised at how functional procreate is on a base iPad. I really hope this works in some modified way on a base iPad. I teach digital art/animation at a middle school and our lab is base iPads, would love to bring this to my program.
@gomota8630
@gomota8630 Год назад
Hi, do you know which iPads will work with Procreate Dreams, I have the 2020 2nd Gen iPad Pro. Thank you
@turtltitan6861
@turtltitan6861 11 месяцев назад
As somebody who has no animation experience let alone being a beginner artist… I’m very excited.
@bn6244
@bn6244 10 месяцев назад
i haven't seen any examples of it handling more that one shot in a project file. if it can't handle multiple shots it's very limited in one huge way
@Praveen-or5ce
@Praveen-or5ce Год назад
They will also bring icloud integration into procreate
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
That's awesome! I'm definitely hoping that that confirms we'll be getting the saved undo history - it's a really interesting update! 😃
@susans2991
@susans2991 Год назад
I really appreciate your take on everything procreate. As I don’t see a commercial use for me personally, who uses procreate to design for physical products, your thoughts are interesting. I was super disappointed that enhancements to procreate weren’t announced but understandable. As a brush hoarder I really hoped for some organization tools there. I will buy the app if only to support them and it will be fun but am also afraid that instagram and all other social media will become crazy with animations mad with dreams. Thanks for all you do! Yours is one of the few emails I read entirely.
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
Thanks so much for your feedback, Susan, I really appreciate it! I was also surprised that they didn't mention more about Procreate in the keynote and know what you mean about brushes - I have thousands on my iPad, so some new organization tools there would definitely be valuable. Thanks so much about your feedback on the newsletter too - that means more than you know! Hope you're having a wonderful weekend! 😃
@WestonWoodfin
@WestonWoodfin Год назад
As a Motion Graphic Designer, this app is really exciting for me and something I have been waiting for! So happy an app like this is coming from the Procreate Team as well. Really looking forward to trying it out!
@maryse6244
@maryse6244 Год назад
J'aimerais savoir si cette nouvelle application peut être compatible sur un ipad 9e génération...? ou seulement sur des iPad Pro?
@stemfourvisual
@stemfourvisual Год назад
I’m just waiting to hear what functions I’ll lose using an iPad Pro 2018.
@dplj4428
@dplj4428 Год назад
Procreate itself came out 10 years ago. For 5 of those recently, we have been beta testing those features within Procreate and are being rolled back into Procreate Dreams. 3:54 i think the 1 million is virtual.
@goodmorningpeach4284
@goodmorningpeach4284 Год назад
im so excited and have many projects i see being easier within dreams, i honestlyn cant wait for november
@AishwarySingh
@AishwarySingh Год назад
I too have a major question, if dreams is gonna perform all the tasks including painting then why would someone use procreate anyway now? 😕
@MandrakeRoomba
@MandrakeRoomba Год назад
Procreate is focused on drawing, dreams is focused on animation and motion graphics. Why would you create an animation project only to draw one frame?
@slartibartfast7921
@slartibartfast7921 Год назад
Great overview. Very exciting indeed. Will it be able to export in formats widely used by the industry?
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
Thank you you so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it! ! That's a really great question - I've always liked the flexibility of export formats from Procreate so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they'll do something similar in Dreams. I've applied for their beta program so I hope to find out more soon! Thanks again 😃
@kohiek
@kohiek Год назад
Haha!!! This is exactly what I was asking. I assumed he meant that .dream was the guarantee, not the new engine.
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
I know, right! I was watching the presentation live and when the comment about Procreate was made I was waiting for more details, but he just kept going 😃 I'm so curious to find out more and I'm also thinking that the file format will be common between the apps to enable some of the functionality, but I can't wait to confirm this! Thanks for your feedback 😃
@linda1541
@linda1541 Год назад
I’m thinking you’d need an iPad Pro. But my question is will all iPad Pros work? I have the second generation.
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
The question about iPad compatibility is a really god (and big) one! I'm very curious which iPads will be supported and am hopefull that the new engine may make it more accessible? Or the new engine may only be able to run on newer/higher specced M1 devices - I'm really interested to find out more about the device compatibility too! 😃
@donnydarko7624
@donnydarko7624 11 месяцев назад
on a splash screen they had for one of the videos they show a ipad mini, but I'm willing to bet it only works on apple/M silicon
@soumodipmitra6671
@soumodipmitra6671 Год назад
I want to know is it support on iPad 9th generation
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
That's a great question! I was wondering the same thing about which devices will support the new app (and even which devices will support the new features for Procreate). I'll definitely put that on my list of details to confirm 👍
@williammosley9370
@williammosley9370 Год назад
If they do this I’m gonna be so mad I literally just switched to windows because of the layer limit.
@MrEnoch-dy4tg
@MrEnoch-dy4tg Год назад
I was thinking about buying some Wacom tablets lately because Procreate have some major limitations compare to other drawing apps. After this announcement tho I think I’ll stick to Procreate 😁
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
Oh no! I know what you mean - something similar happened to me years ago when I switched camera systems between Canon/Nikon and then the manufacturer release a camera that had what I was looking for... I do really want to find out more about what updates are definitely coming to Procreate and which devices will be supported.. Hopefully it's accessible enough with device support that you'll have the option to use both or the pick which system you like best 😃
@BlackletterFoundry
@BlackletterFoundry Год назад
I understand what you mean - at higher resolutions the layer count can be limiting so I'm really interested to see just how well this will perform and what devices the new features will be compatible with 😃 👍
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