@@Toiyf. problem with 6400 is u need a system with gen 4 pcie lane to fully utilize it and still, 4gb vram is not enough nowadays. better than 1650 tho.
I run a full size A380 in my Plex server, I run 400-600 FPS with 4 videos re-encoding to AV1. No fan until it gets warm and even then you can't hear it. For that use case I'm very pleased with it. I'd like to try gaming on it but I know I'll just be disappointed.
@@radzia1010 I use the A380 to encode to AV1 which can cut file sizes significantly (I have stuff in my library from the early 2000s and the encoding back then was nowhere near as efficient, even more modern codecs you can cut file sizes up to 40%) so I can save storage space. But most devices don't support AV1 yet. It's also nice to transcode for mobile streaming so I can save on mobile bandwidth.
i mean look at gamers nexus video on that, intel ark requires SAM or equivalent for your platform older gen 3 pci systems may not have SAM Z490 i think had it but thats a 10700k, so it seems only 10th gen intel and newer and 3rd gen ryzen and newer will even support these cards due to SAM or Resizable Bar
you're gonna struggle to find THAT much of a difference even with a 4090, there's really not *that* much going over PCIe, yes obviously you will see performance loss at PCIe3x2 but it really isn't as much as you would think. On the A380 you will see basically 0 difference
Wow that takes me back. The 1st GPU I ever got was a Sparkle, a GT630 with a whopping 2 GB DDR 3 memory, on PCIE 2.0. It didn't have a cover or back plate, it was just the PCB, components, and a tiny little heat sink fan, no bigger than a chipset fan. Not the 1st PC I had, just the 1st one I built myself, got pre-builts prior to that.
Idk, CDkeys sponsorship seems pretty normal, Intel A380 being the best at anything however is pretty questionable, Pretty sure the current lineup of Intel GPUs are only worth looking at on the "higher" end. A380 is probably the most questionable among the lineup. It's what I'd call a "Real Estate" GPU, a card that you would only consider for certain niche features only available on new cards that don't really have much impact on gaming performance, but people will constantly argue are worth while for some theoretical work application like showong off a 3D model of a bathroom to some client. (let's just not question how many Real Estate agents ar building custom small form factor rigs specifically for showing off 3D models) It's probably not even the best Real Estate GPU, the 3050 6gb seems to only exist to maybe scam people but I still think it might stomp this in most use cases. @@1nico517
This is awesome. I try to run everything in my computer room at 100w total off the main power feed into that room. This includes monitor, lamp, speakers, printers, gpu at load. I wish people would care more about electricity, it is the key to the universe, wish we respected it more, it has infinite potential.
Apparently you don't care all that much because not only do I run a Dell PowerEdge R930 quad CPU xeon monster server with twelve terabytes of ram and the rest of my house from 10,000 watts of solar panels (32 x 320W) on my roof.
Until we have free electricity, as in geothermal power plants, having high power rigs don't make sense since sooner or later the power generation that we have now will just get more and more expensive. Since the more human beings there are, the more demand for those things that we like would be more and more wanted, i.e. everything that requires electricity, from transportation, food, housing, comfort, and entertainment. Everything rises exponentially because every family borne not just one or two children but more, thus an exponential rise for finite resources.
It's really impressive that this card matches the performance of an R9 380X (which had dual power connectors and pulled up to 300W), yet it can run off just the PCIe slot. This also gets about an extra 1000 points in Time Spy vs the RX 6400. Not bad for $100.
It's great to see some new affordable lp cards on the market! I only wish they had been available around 2-3 years ago when I had to pay almost double that for a 4gb rx550lp.
I have the non LP of the sparkle. About 6 months as a stellar HTPC and emulation stream for my steam deck to moonlight off of. Such a good value, once drivers finally settled in.
Just bought this GPU maker's A770 card - looks like a great value brand manufacturer putting out low cost GPUs - not powerhouse graphics but great as part of console alternative builds as second PCs for kids and/or lounge room multimedia setups.
Maybe do a round up of all the current LP GPU options? GTX1650, 1630, RX6400, RTX 3050, A310 and A380? Also ReBAR vs no ReBAR for Intel GPUs would be nice.
Thanks for the content very interesting. I tried this with my sparkle elf A380 and got it to boost above 2700mhz at 62 watts running furmark. Though bifrost when I do this is inconsistent not always applying the wattage, though not a huge jump in FPS. I use +80 boost and +10mv in arc software with a fan curve whilst gaming seems to be stable. With my mighty 12100f😊
You can see a review test on TechPowerUp on that same exact GPU model and manufacturer (I can't give an exact link to their article as RU-vid will flag and will autodelete my post for putting any external links). They gave pretty average review and their recommendation being preffering for a more expensive / higher level GPUs. However, as I can tell, they decided to test games for that entry-level graphic card ONLY at their HIGHEST (!) possible graphic settings, there's has NOT BEEN ANY KIND OF TESTS at all on lower ones, like: smaller resolutions, lower game details, XeSS / FSR mode enabled, etc. 🤨 So, I like that this video tested this entry-level GPU on a reasonable lower setting compared to the TechPowerUp one. 😍
I think one thing that should be said in every video about Intel cards os that they're still pretty bad for older games using DX9 so if you plan to use it for "retro" gaming maybe it's not the best option. They're slowly improving with this tho
Used the sponsor for a new build. Had an issue activating, went into the chat and they fixed it with me. Just had to send em a screenshot of my windows version and the error code. And all that on a Sunday morning!
My only criticism of those cards is their thermal design. Notice that their brackets don't have any cutouts, so they're designed to dump all their heat inside the case. A lot of low profile cards are designed like this and it makes no sense IMO, since they're gonna be used in places where volume is limited so they shouldn't be adding heat to the internal air volume of the case.
I think it’d be cool if someone did like a comparison of buying say a 8600g or 8700g and using the iGPU vs buying an a310 and a380 and something like a 7600 or 7700 based on cost and performance and then what it would be like if you swapped in a 4070 or something….. just to see what the upgrade path would be I’d say you could only afford X now, and y later….
the 8600g and 8700g beat the 45w configuration of the arc 380, I dont know about the 60w TDP configuration. But tbh I wouldnt take 60w into account since I dont think that all cards can go there (like the ASrock variant). Also if you dont have PCIe 4 I wouldnt recommend such a card, the APUs you mentioned are generally faster if you are looking solely for a small form factor build. Also if you want a somewhat good SFF PC ignore the APUs as well and just go for a 4060LP since those APUs cost around 300$ for the 8600g and about 370$ for a 8700g. So tbh spending 300$ for a 4060 and 100$ for a R5 5500 would make a whole lot more sense in this case. At this point the LP GPU market is stagnant for a very long time with the GTX 1650 still being the best value GPU out there. However if you only want something that can play esports titles on a budget high refresh rate monitor with low settings (the most common type of settings in such titles), your cheapest bet would be to go for an ancient RX550 4Gb or something similar. If you want to do some medium settings 60 FPS AAA gaming as well go for a 3050. Just avoid any a380 or rx6400 as those are in all honesty worse than modern APUs and the value for money is worse than the combination of a cheap CPU with a 4060 or 3050 or even a 1650.
hope they come to Canada some day soon. I deal with a lot of used systems, and that 310 you showed last video, is great for my clients that just want more than one monitor. (mostly office work) but for some low end gaming used systems.. the 380 would be amazing to get people into gaming on the cheap.
I have a soft spot for Intel Arc as well as small form factor PCs, I set up a price alert for when these drop to $99.99 again so I'll grab one then! Thanks for the video, it really performed a lot better than I expected. I have an A380 already for my Plex server but have never tried to game on it, I'm also curious to see how this will fare in a PCIe 3.0 system given that it's only set up for x8
I bought this case, power supply, and the 4060 lp for an sff build. I like the wood paneling you added to the front. It sacrifices the little bit of airflow and the front usb though. I may test it out and see. The 4060 runs pretty hot.
I suggest undervolting or if you can’t undervolt, power limiting with MSI’s afterburner tool. 115w just is too much power for a graphics card in a minuscule case.
How does it compare to the ASRock LP A380 you showed a couple months ago? The full size HDMI and DisplayPort on the ASRock card might be easier for people to use than the mDP ports on this card.
HELLO! A small recommendation, for the tests in Fortnite I recommend you play the battle royale zero build and activate the game recording options, and use that game to play in other benchmarks. Also try using the DX11 rendering mode with textures on low and render on high. People looking for these builds tend to compare how many fps their sweet builds give them.
I'm fine with call of duty at 60 frames I've never had a TV or monitor that would do over that so to me 60 1080 is just fine. I think that's the sweet spo. I wish mini PCS would do this also.
Just a heads up, but Fortnite should really be tested at low settings. Also, that game mode you tested in is not as demanding as the lobby's would be. With that being said, I am glad you included it and would like to see more comp. multiplayer games in your lineup. They are some of the most popular games.
If you have room for dual slot LP but the 4060 is too expensive or you don't have an 8 pin connector please just get a 3050. Over double performance of the 380 in most games without all the driver issues and only costs 50% more(at least in Europe) not even counting the rest of the system.
I assume you can do the same overclocks with the ASRock version you tested previously as the specs between the two are the same, and they should perform the same. Also, the ASRock model is regularly $100. This one is certainly the better looking of the two however.
I just bought the ASUS version of this card. It has one HDMI and one full-size Displayport out. But the computer it's in currently does not have resizable bar. That's going to be corrected soon. Was running an RX6400, but again, the motherboard is the problem (pcie e). The Intel, even hogtied by the lack of rebar, still slightly outruns the 6400. It should improve greatly when I change platforms in a week or so.
The ARC cards need ReBar, or has that been fixed with driver updates??? (ETA Prime asked for questions), I do notice the card is 2 slots thick, but it does use a single slot bracket making it more compatible then the rtx 3050. The card could almost be classed has 1.5 slots.
The mini display port cables are what's putting me off. Wished they'd just add all HDMI considering its mainly for productivity and multiple monitor setup.
2:25 What is that unpopulated SMD at the very end of the card? That looks similar to an unpopulated M.2 slot, it looks like it has more fingers, and is missing the power fingers.
@@BearBronson i know, even as a double slot I think it'd be possible if it used a copper heat sink with a triple fan design (like the 4060) for $30 more, I'd buy it. Since it'd pair well with the AR900i idea I have in the tube currently for a new compact editing build.
would this card be good for graphic design & non-4K video editing. sometimes people do use video cards for other things besides gaming I would love to see more low cost video cards & how they preform on things beside gaming
If they came with say Nvidia doing the drivers, not having to worry about older software and it wasn't requiring resizable BAR, I would say it's an awesome card for the money in today's market.
Hi, i have a question about Raspberry Pi HQ Camera. Is that module compatible with Raspberry Pi HQ Camera 8-50mm zoom lens? Also with Raspberry Pi 5 4 gb? My project is about the make, zooming camera to very far spot and focus that spot.
That's awesome. I appreciate the review and showing the tweaks to get that higher tdp. I have an old 4790k build without a gpu since i have it to a friend. This sounds like a compelling gpu to get back to gaming on the old rig. I'm curious how the performance is with Helldivers 2 on that gpu. Thanks!
I'd love to see a video breaking down the performance of this and the a310 as a 2nd gpu dedicated to encoding video. I'm considering it but I'm not finding any stats on the encoders.
I wish for these kind of gpu a budget cpu would be used instead of a i9 13th gen, maybe a i7 or i5 8th or 9th gen would be a sweet spot because I garantere no one with a high end cpu buy this kind of gpu 😊
I think testing a budget gpu like this with an i9 based system is missing the whole point this should probably be on the list to buy for people who have these older systems that still work well like dell OptiPlex based ones with 4th to 7th generation i7
The Moore Threads S30 could be interesting to. Its exotic ;) single slot low profile, chap (at least in china) and "modern" -> modern encoders and decoders (i have a S80 and the decoders seems to be flawless under windows 10 even with 4k AV1 60fps).
A used A2000 is way better value for money. The 6GB goes now for around 200ish and the 12GB version for around 250ish. You get a 192bit bus instead of 96bit and way better drivers and performance in general. Would be great if you did a comparison between this card, a 3050, an RX 6400 and an Nvidia A2000.
I'm baffled PC's are still struggling to get great performance at 1080P. 1080P is now 15 years old standard (if not older). We need to finally move on to 4k standard.
the problem is 4k implementation and costs, not much people have 4k monitors or the desire to get one, i only have a cheap tv and no interest to run anything at 4k apart from youtube videos on it
Surprisingly, Intel works better on higher resolutions comparatively against AMD and Nvidia offerings. For example A770LE ain't a match for 4060Ti in 1080p, but directly competes against 4070Ti in 4K.
Got a free OptiPlex with an i7 8700 from work. Will this combo do mild gaming and run some older games fine? Mainly got the OptiPlex for Ableton Live and photoshop.
I wonder if you could swap the heatsink from the single slot A310 and mount it to the A380 board with the A380 fans and create a Frankenstein single slot A380, would love to see you try
So what would be the preferred LP A380 between this and the recently reviewed model from ASRock? I can see that the IO and the heatsink is different. Does the latter make a difference in thermals? How about the ASRock's 45w total TDP? Does that result in less performance compared to this card?
Hello, ETA PRIME. I'm interested in a prefabricated mini pc, and I like the pc case in the video because it has a wooden point. If you don't mind, may I know where to buy the case? And may I know if the RTX 4060 LP goes in?
