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One of the most poignant melodies ever 

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The clarinet sonatas come at the very end of Brahms' life and a profound simplicity begins to reveal itself which seems to imitate the touching tranquility of Schubert's late style as well. (The sparse piano writing and song-like melodic writing remind me of the slow movements in Schubert's final piano sonatas) Yet Brahms' harmonic ingenuity is almost cleverly hidden by such an unassuming piano texture; Held harmonies above changing bass notes create multiple suspensions and dissonances that only resolve in the following bar. Perhaps zooming into the first bar itself is the most telling, with a Ab major harmony that expands into F minor and then Bb minor all in the span of three quavers. All that with a single Eb in the melody which changes from harmony note to 7th to suspension and finally resolves to Db in the next bar. This constant figuration creates a dense and rather complicated web of harmonies encoded in a condensed piano accompaniment. We see this technique exploited in just an opus before, in his Intermezzo op.119 no.1, to quite a similar effect.
My favourite moment would probably be the appoggiatura of Ab over the C minor chord, which creates such a poignant dissonance with the G in the harmony, perhaps also emphasised by the V-vi interrupted cadence.
Brahms' Clarinet Sonata Op.120 No.1, Second movement.
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@CalebDickinsonMusic
@CalebDickinsonMusic 2 месяца назад
I’m surprised by all the people in the comments who say they don’t get this piece. I get chills every time I hear it. It’s easily among the top 5 most beautiful pieces I’ve ever heard.
@Raymorend
@Raymorend 4 месяца назад
Finally Clarinet music is showcased, as a clarinetist im proud. My recommendation is for Brhams Quintet its just amazing and worth showcasing too
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
The quintet is excellent, I always wanted to do the opening which is very interesting harmonically. I might also do rach 2 third movement in the near future
@randommodnar1669
@randommodnar1669 4 месяца назад
I think I’ll need a few listens to get this one
@theMEANpipe
@theMEANpipe 4 месяца назад
always the case with brahms
@luxinveritate3365
@luxinveritate3365 4 месяца назад
One of my favorites by Brahms! Loved playing that sonata
@climatrix
@climatrix 4 месяца назад
this is incredible
@anled.composition
@anled.composition 4 месяца назад
Beautiful craft hidden behind the apparent simplicity of the melody.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
Almost seems like a common thread behind most of my videos 🤣
@anled.composition
@anled.composition 4 месяца назад
@@skylarlimex Indeed ahah!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
@@anled.composition just wait til I make a video on ferneyhough
@anled.composition
@anled.composition 4 месяца назад
@@skylarlimex I'm not familiar with Ferneyhough, but after having a quick glance at some scores, indeed "simplicity" is maybe not the best description 😂
@bazingacurta2567
@bazingacurta2567 4 месяца назад
This is the strangest Brahms I've ever heard.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
I always found the finale of his 3rd symphony to be slightly strange though I never knew why
@metacarple
@metacarple 3 месяца назад
Have a listen to the Three Motets. I genuinely believe that, if they did not have ‘Johannes Brahms’ at the top, no-one would ever peform them.
@NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets
@NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets 3 месяца назад
@@metacarplewhat opus?
@williamstephens9945
@williamstephens9945 3 месяца назад
​@@skylarlimexI love the 3rd Symphony
@carlhopkinson
@carlhopkinson 3 месяца назад
You should listen to all Brahms chamber music. This is where his unique melodic genius really is on display.
@Dodecatone
@Dodecatone 4 месяца назад
clarinet gang! I remember learning this for a solo during lockdown... fond memories
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
Did I mention the clarinet is one of my favourite instruments?
@ferenc_l
@ferenc_l 4 месяца назад
I would love to also see you analysing the second sonat in this opus - perhaps the middle movement? Thanks for your hard work!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
I do like the second sonata a lot as well. We'll see!
@shiv2033
@shiv2033 4 месяца назад
Beautiful ❤, we need more videos. Could you make a video on Bill Evans? He is my favourite ❤.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
Haha I think there are far more capable people at analysing jazz than me
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000 4 месяца назад
Second vote for Bill Evans 🙂
@shiv2033
@shiv2033 4 месяца назад
@@skylarlimex I know but you can give it a try my man, the way you describe music is beautiful. Also Bill Evans is a classical pianist disguised as a jazz pianist.
@larrynile8770
@larrynile8770 3 месяца назад
I'd put my money on the idea that Evans fans are also Brahms fans for the same reason: the way they treat the movement and tonal shifting of the inner voices, which create and then resolve tensions that shade and color the harmonic structure in unexpected, and sometimes profoundly moving ways (PS: I am one of them!)
@masantonio8790
@masantonio8790 4 месяца назад
This piece is also very popular with violists :) It’s quite a bit warmer and more intimate sounding on that iteration. Antoine Tamestit has my favorite performance.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
I'll check it out! I was indeed first introduced to the second sonata by a violist
@radish1972
@radish1972 3 месяца назад
Its infinitely better on the clarinet.
@masantonio8790
@masantonio8790 3 месяца назад
@@radish1972 I personally disagree but if you like it better on the clarinet, great.
@michelcamachomusic
@michelcamachomusic 9 дней назад
I prefer the intermezzi in Bb and B minor and the 3rd movement of the 3rd symphony for something melodic, intriguing and beautiful tbh
@jobebrian
@jobebrian 3 месяца назад
Excellent. But the Clarinet Quintet from the same, late stage of his career is even more stunning.
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama 3 месяца назад
...not to even mention the Clarinet Trio.
@bryancongerclarinet
@bryancongerclarinet 3 месяца назад
I believe the bass pitches on beat 2s are all anticipations of the bar that follows them: m. 1, then, is Ab major (with an implied 5-6 motion coming from the tenor's F--a motif that comes from the opening of the first movement of this sonata, by the way), and the bass Bb on beat 2 actually belongs to bar 2, where it forms a Bb minor harmony. Throughout this opening, it's the clarinet and upper voices of the piano giving the harmony, and the bass creating the dissonances by way of anticipations. The Roman numerals, if one were forced to supply them, then, are fairly simple and changing once every bar: I (5-6), ii7, V7, I (with that 6 still there). But it's this blurring effect between the clarinet and bass that gives this opening so much of its beauty and should, I think, be reflected in an analysis. The double neighbor figure in m. 5 and 6 of the piano, by the way, comes from the opening of the second sonata (and it appears in the first movement of this sonata as well). Similar material appears in both Brahms sonatas, as though they formed one giant piece.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 3 месяца назад
I did consider this analysis as well, though I opted eventually for hearing the upper harmonies as suspensions instead. Anticipations have quite a tricky definition: they always have a small rhythmic value and rarely occur in the bass precisely because if they do we hear them as the new harmony instead. But it is true that it helps us see the underlying harmonies per bar.
@bryancongerclarinet
@bryancongerclarinet 3 месяца назад
@@skylarlimex Yes, it's very bizarre either way! I've found this opening can be magical if I ask (politely!) the pianist to delay slightly the bass pitch so that it sounds as though it belongs to the following bar. (Andras Schiff actually plays it this way in his recording with Jorg Widmann.) I think the reason I hear the melody as the stable part of the ensemble is that this melody appears throughout the sonatas: it occurs twice in the opening piano theme of the first movement, opening of the second movement, opening of the second movement of the Eb sonata, etc. (it also appears in the opening of the clarinet trio, the a minor intermezzo from op. 76, and many other places--you can scavenger hunt it throughout Brahms's work). This melody, in fact, comes from the final chorale from the St. Matthew Passion and seems to have become almost an obsession for Brahms. From years of playing these sonatas, this melody has become an ear worm: to me, it sounds like a given and the other parts are draped around it, not unlike a lied-setting of a folk tune.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 3 месяца назад
@@bryancongerclarinet that's indeed a very interesting recording by Widmann! Thanks for sharing
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama 3 месяца назад
Yeah, the opening bass notes clearly spell out II-V-I (a feature not shown in the video). Never underestimate the basses! Of course it is complicated by that (1) the tonic triad is heard without a convincing bass at the opening and (2) when the I bass finally appears, 5th is substituted by 6th, as mentioned by bryan. Incidentally, Sibelius's 5th symphony opens with a somewhat comparable progression (when the cadence finally arrives, I is substituted by 6/3b).
@deliusfan
@deliusfan 2 месяца назад
My only comment noticing people not “getting it” here is I think this recording is all over the map tempo wise, the pianist isn’t subdividing his eighths into 4 32nds and is moving way too fast into the moving clarinet notes, which then are forced in turn to slow way down to be played correctly. I’ve performed this with clarinetists and never gone this fast, it cuts into the poetry and overall pathos of the movement. They’re “schwunging’’ this movement way too much for the elderly, not too far from death Brahms, who was also writing organ chorale preludes a la Bach by this time, including “O Welt, ich muss dich lassen” which was what Bach dictated (text appropriately) from his deathbed. This is old Brahms, not the Ballades. This movement should be played simply and forthright, as the expression is all there in the melody and chords. This should be the calm after the storm and fury of the 1st movement.
@ihaveacoolnickname
@ihaveacoolnickname Месяц назад
Brahms is not accessible to the beginning listener of classical music. His harmonies are dense and unexpected and melodies might take several measures to resolve. It took me decades to begin to appreciate him and even now, I sometimes feel I am not mature enough.
@xeqqail3546
@xeqqail3546 4 месяца назад
it doesn't feel right for my ears but it works somehow
@deliusfan
@deliusfan 2 месяца назад
Now do the slow mvt of the 2nd Piano Concerto which has sort of the opposite thing right before the cello solo reprise, the piano reaching upward in arpeggio to those achingly poignant high minor 2nds within F# Major, followed by the minor 7ths plunging downward over the static strings chords. Devastating.
@mustuploadtoo7543
@mustuploadtoo7543 4 месяца назад
this channel 😇🙏
@MarshallArtz007
@MarshallArtz007 3 месяца назад
Try the alternate version for viola. This performance is with Antoine Tamestit and is beautifully recorded: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0NTb-96vrUc.htmlsi=0Q7bnAN9irEsfIHU 😎🎹
@daclarinetboii
@daclarinetboii 3 месяца назад
Broo I played this at my audition a couple of months ago! I was just hoping to find some random fantastic Brahms but I stumbled upon this and I don’t regret it lol. Brahmstiful. Edit: personally I don’t like this clarinet interpretation though
@lupash
@lupash 3 месяца назад
I didn’t get what you mean by Brahms’ harmonic ingenuity.
@dario8220
@dario8220 3 месяца назад
Same here :///
@henrykwieniawski7233
@henrykwieniawski7233 Месяц назад
Sounds like a range was quoting the Bach motif
@richardgmitchell
@richardgmitchell 3 месяца назад
What melody ?
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000 4 месяца назад
I'm feeling contrary today, but this is also my honest feeling: the passage doesn't really sing to me. While technically impressive it misses the sort of lyricism found in the most superior melodies. In my most humble opinion.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 4 месяца назад
Sure, that's interesting. But if you could, how would you describe that sort of lyricism you're referring to?
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000 4 месяца назад
@@skylarlimex I wish I could describe it precisely and objectively, but my technical understanding is somewhat basic. I'd almost rather leave it with a more poetic 'it just doesn't sing'. This is just my totally subjective hearing, but I don't find it has a very natural flow, it is sort of meandering and forgettable. It just doesn't seem to mean much to me.
@charlescg3904
@charlescg3904 4 месяца назад
@@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000Brahms music like the German tradition, isn’t really about lyricism. It’s more about thematic development and interweaving as well as the harmonic context. Any theme from Brahms, Beethoven or Bach would sound silly on its own without context. Trying to listen for lyricism and poetic melodies would be looking for the wrong thing. They’re certainly no Mozart, Schubert or Chopin and completely different type of music from Rachmoninoff and late romantics as well.
@joeobyrne9348
@joeobyrne9348 4 месяца назад
​@@charlescg3904I couldn't argue against you seriously as I haven't listened to nearly enough of all their works to know. But there's a few Brahms pieces where I would argue that the melodies do have that lyricism that the original commenter was talking about. How lovely are they dwellings fair, for example, has the most beautiful melody line that sounds gorgeous even without the context (though the context, you're absolutely right, makes it incredible in my view). I'd say some of his Hungarian dances also have that lyricism. I sort of agree with the original person that this specific piece hasn't got that lyricism. It jumps around a little bit too much, doesn't establish itself very well and I think doesn't use tension and resolution as well as Brahms is more than capable of. Of course this is all being said in the context of Brahms being a creative genius who's music I adore. This was more a theoretical/academic pursuit of a question than any serious opinions per se.
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000
@cgwilliamsjazzpiano3000 4 месяца назад
@@charlescg3904 Fair point. I'm not sure I'd agree that *any* of the "3 B's" themes sound silly outside of their harmonic context, but understand what you are saying. My opinion on this is not well qualified on this is any case, I'm a bit of a dabbler.
@tobiaspeter6555
@tobiaspeter6555 4 месяца назад
Why are clarinets always so out of tune?
@arielorthmann4061
@arielorthmann4061 3 месяца назад
I don't know. Not all clarinettists do.
@iangreer4585
@iangreer4585 3 месяца назад
It’s an unfortunate design flaw with the instrument. Acoustically, it’s horrible because of the fact it is cylindrical and you have to cover tone holes a certain way.
@nigelhaywood9753
@nigelhaywood9753 3 месяца назад
They aren’t. The fact that it is a cylindrical tube and only produces the odd-numbered harmonics may give you the impression that it is out of tune but in this case, at least, I can assure that it isn’t.
@simmo303
@simmo303 3 месяца назад
Nowhere near. Plenty more from Schubert.
@fabienlamour3644
@fabienlamour3644 3 месяца назад
No melody there.
@berkefeil5646
@berkefeil5646 3 месяца назад
Sorry but Brahms can be terrible, like this
@LeifD958
@LeifD958 3 месяца назад
This is the BEST of Brahms,- alongside his piano sonata no. 3 op. 5, and both his piano concertos. It’s the pic of humanity. If this second movement was the only thing Brahms ever wrote, he would be regarded as one of the greatest composers ever.
@berkefeil5646
@berkefeil5646 3 месяца назад
@@LeifD958if you said something like this about a good Beethoven or Mozart piece I’d completely agree, but Brahms… I mean, I just don’t feel it
@jobebrian
@jobebrian 3 месяца назад
Excellent. But the Clarinet Quintet from the same, late stage of his career is even more stunning.
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