Over the years of backpacking I've had to throw away to water filters because yours truly left it outside when it got below freezing. Instead of putting it in a ziplock and bring it inside the sleeping bag with me
A filter alone is adequate for most places in North America. Check to see if viral pathogens are even a problem where you are. Those tabs work well but can take several hours to work depending on the brand, and don't guarantee that they are strong enough to kill absolutely everything. They are convenient for personal single bottle use, also field sterilization of the filter or containers. However they are pretty pricey, and most people find a different solution. A cheaper alternative is a dropper bottle of unscented laundry bleach, or even certain types of pool chlorine in the right amount, that's what the tabs use but at a fraction the cost. Several types of chlorine are suitable for making water safe, the cdc publishes guidlines on emergency/alternative water treatment if anyone is wanting to do this. It requires figuring out the right amount for a given amount of water, and the ppm amount you are going for, which is a personal preference/ best guess for a given situation. So you buy some test strips and chlorine and give it a go, best to figure out how and how much before you need it, some chlorine keeps working a very long time, some doesn't, do the research. There is also boiling, uv lights, iodine, a few others, but again simple filters are good enough for many situations.
Good call. Aquatabs also do not kill giardia or cryptosporidium, which the Sawyer mini is capable of filtering out. Aquatabs are also less effective in cold water so boiling has that triage effect. Unfortunately if you're on the move only the Sawyer mini is ideal but can you afford to take the chance?
This is my plan. The water should be at a rolling boil for at least 5 mins so it needs to be a hot, hot fire. I got a kelly kettle and that thing is awesome.
@@MagicPrepperoiling with fire works great BUT fire is indeed slow ..AND (not to be *that* guy BUT) it gives off the smell of smoke which carries for great distances on the wind, as well as the smoke signals potentially being seen for miles. Not to mention the heat and light signature given off by the flame... all of which, in turn can give away your position. Don't get me wrong boiling with fire is a great, effective method while camping/hiking/in the bush, just not ideal for many survival and evasion scenarios where _not_ drawing attention to yourself may be crucial. It is for these reasons why you should outfit different kits/systems accordingly. That being said ALL kits/bags for members of my household contain _at least_ a Sawyer mini(w/full Sawyer kit), a sealed 1L bottle of SmartWater for immediate use, and either Potable Water or AquaTabs. SmartWater bottles are good and sturdy & the Sawyer can be threaded directly on to the mouth of the bottle for ease of use. 🌈🌈🦄🦄⚔🛡🇺🇸
Excuse my ignorance, but since it doesn't filter out viruses, and we're adding aqua tabs anyways.... Why bother with the Sawyer? And does this apply to all filters i.e. the grayel, life straw etc?
Looking at an article on on outdoor gear lab's website comparing 26 different products, including filters and purification tablets, it seems some of the tabs are effective against bacteria and giardia but not cryptosporidium.
I drink ground water all the time with mainly the squeeze and sometimes a mini. Have never got sick from water in North America. I’ve filtered and drank likely thousands of gallons. I do live where there’s really clean water and freshwater springs are abundant. Even in other places though never got sick. I’ve known people while in the desert that have filtered cattle trough water with just a squeeze. Personally that’s a line for me I would use some purification tablets in that scenario.
The way I use it with a water bladder is to treat the water in the bladder with a tablet. Wait for treatment (30 min - hour) and then it filters through the Sawyer as an in-line filter. But, you can go the other way too. For my bladder with no in-line filter, I put the water in through a Sawyer. Using the baggie canteen or a water bottle. Then I treat the bladder. Either works!
Galera, quem tiver filtro sawyer e puder mandar para essa turma vai ajudar muito, único ponto é que tbm precisa de algum eliminador de bactérias e vírus para usar na água filtrada, vai ajudar muito!!
The Sawyer filters seem to be a waste of money. I use clear stream water and backflush them, but they are only good for a couple gallons of water before they get plugged up and stop working.
Would you only use the tablets if the source was questionable or would you just use it just to be safe? Just curious, thanks in advance for anyone's opinion.
@@sway696 You use the tablets any time you suspect human waste because viruses inject DNA and only human virus can infect you. Unless you are lizard person and you aren't telling us. No filter not even the high end ones filter out all viruses, high end ones only filter the larger viruses. Neither method will take care of salt water or chemicals, so that's another thing to think about. This is why you always try to source the cleanest water before you purify. Also unless you are in a survival situation where you are unlikely to get resupplied for a long time, I would always use a disinfection method. If not the iodine tablets, then use UV or boiling. Note UV only works if the water is agitated during the process.
You can buy at wally world. I just bought 4 of the sawyer filter bottles. Comes with filter seen here, bottle, drinking tube, cleaning syringe. Under $20. $19.97
Do sawyer filters have an adapter for a camelback mouthpiece, I need a snap on so I can just scoop watter, pass it through a t-shirt filled with charcoal to get the particles out and drop the iodine aqua tablets in and sip through the hose with my filter on the mouth piece. I like to be able to quickly scoop up bad water and treat while on the move or in a displaced location.
You would just install it inline with the water hose. On one of my source bladders, I just cut the tube, attached the two ends to each side of the Sawyer Mini with the correct flow direction and then clamped each side down with 1/4" hose clamps. Works well! Hope that helps.
I'm sorry !!! please help me understand something , if you are out hiking somewhere off the beaten path and you come across a creek you mean to tell me that creek will contain viruses where there is no public around ????
I sure wish we could find these good products made in the US. I've been finding more than a couple items almost designed to fail made in China lately, example I checked out some of my tourniquets after watching a prepper medical video and sure enough about 5 of my Cat7's were claiming to be NAR Cat7's and had almost perfect trademarked Cat7 stamping on the strap like the genuine products but the big difference was the strap the windless tightens had down by the base where it mounts barely noticeable change in the fabric pattern and only had threads going in one direction rather than a strong weave, it was a designed failure point that would absolutely snap at the worst possible time! Huge eye opener and amazon in this instance would've even respond about it for a refund at least but I did notice the link in my previous purchases after that had an odd "opps something went wrong page not available anymore" notification when I tried to click it to contact seller directly with my issue. Wild so find this and it be true with my own gear. Since then I only order from Refuge Medical owned by Bear Independent another great channel.
Do you already have a list/video with other filter brands that do filter out viruses, I'd love to research some more brands and hopefully find all US made products or at least not Chinese made, check out my comment below for reasoning there on the gentlemen's comment about Grayl geopress filter options.. Which sure does look like a great product but after getting knock off medical products with seemingly built in failure points I'm very skeptical.
correction (debatable)... doesn't filter out all viruses. I've had great luck with the filter and luckily have contracted nothing yet. is not meant to filter out viruses but is capable of doing so depending on the virus. sizes vary.
