One way to DRASTICALLY IMPROVE Your Takeoffs and Landings - Flight Training VLOG

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When they asked Lindy which window he wanted to get rid of he said the front one. He was used to flying with big bags of mail in front of him and didn't really need it anyway. In this video I show you where to look in an airplane anytime you lose your forward visual reference. Like Lindy, you will learn to fly the airplane using what I have dubbed "The Lindbergh Reference". This reference point is critical for takeoff, landing, climbs, and slow flight. Learning to use it will dramatically improve your takeoffs and landings. Ride along with Paul and I as we go to Oakland to work on this specific skill.
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@mattbasford6299 5 лет назад

I always leave the centerline for the professionals

@TheFinerPoints 4 года назад

haha, you an 90% of my students :-0

@UnusualAttitudes 4 года назад

LOL

@jamesallen8838 4 года назад

On a 20’ runway there really isn’t much of an option

@2Greenlid 4 года назад

Why wear the paint off , right!

@mattbasford6299 4 года назад

@@jamesallen8838 that situation is a little different than most runways. At the airport I learned to fly at, you had to land where the potholes weren't, which was usually around the centerline. A nearby Army base used it for practice with Blackhawks and they would practice aggressive approaches and slam the tailwheel down on the pavement.

@U4184 2 года назад

You are making me realize how much I missed or was not told during my flight training. Thank you so much for these videos.

@philconey11 4 года назад

I started using the Lindbergh within my first ten hours of flying. Not by anything by CFI taught me, but because of another video I found here. It's been AMAZING for landings and takeoffs. It really makes them so much more accurate and really helps butter the bread.

@dcolumbus4180 5 лет назад

Rusty pilot here. It's been almost nine years. Started flying again and found I was doing that stretch neck thing trying to look over the nose of the Archer. Landings were terrible. The instructor said they were not that bad since it has been so long, but I think he was just trying to keep my confidence up. This video was a great reminder of how to do things correctly. Looking forward (or to the side a little) to getting in the air again if this weather ever clears. Thanks for all the great videos.

@jacyborreaux919 5 лет назад

After 9 years your landings will suffer but I'm sure you will be fine! Keep at it!

@brennenfitzgerald 5 лет назад

There’s something more to that “sit back” part. IMO, I think it’s not only that the pilot using the reference, but it forces the body to relax, and being relaxed has huge benefits.

@philipp7935 4 года назад

yep, and like he mentioned once you’re in a longer , high-mounted or long nose plane there is absolutely no reason to strain to see over the nose. no chance

@jannepeltonen2036 6 лет назад

I hadn't actually realized you could get away with just looking over the nose in a C172. I mean, my primary training was in a Tomahawk, where you actually can look over the nose all the time, but then our club sold it and I had to complete my training in a C172. And the first impression while flaring was, wow, my horizon is getting full of cowling :D

@peterv1806 5 лет назад

Fantastic instruction. I wish that I had had you as an instructor when I was first learning how to fly.

@BoringFlightVids 2 года назад

Been watching your videos for a while but after seperating with my first instructor (he went to airlines) i really REALLY see what good instruction looks like....ironically my "instructor" instead of teaching me just told me to watch youtube videos. I found your page among others, and realized i had a crap instructor. Thanks for your videos 👍

@sebastiangrimm5671 4 года назад

This is an exceptional trick for taildraggers! I kinda used it until today I guess, but never consciously! Thanks so much! Take care

@seamustheterrible3978 2 года назад

Great stuff. I've subscribed to the Ground School app and I'm really enjoying the journey.

@vincentb627 3 года назад

SIMPLY EXCELLENT TEACHER !

@j.vincenttaylor8916 6 лет назад

Now that ive found your channel, ive binge watched everything, so keep them coming! I love your instruction technique. So many instructors are young guns on a fast track to atp or old retired geezers who rant and rave and turn people off to flying. I just received my taildragger endorsement a couple months ago and that has improved my flying more in 80hrs than in all my years in a tri gear. Thanks for sharing your style and obvious wealth of information. V

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

J. Vincent Taylor thanks! Wilco. I will keep them coming! Any help you can provide to spread the word would be awesome. My mission is to get quality flight training on RU-vid.

@markharris1804 6 лет назад

I feel like such a GA nerd. I was watching your stuff so early on I look forward to every time you post. Finer Points, Flight Chops, Steveo and about 112 more. Keep it up. Your voice tone is soothing for us watching. Where did you learn all these tricks?

@geauxlsu1987 6 лет назад

These nuggets of info in your vids are an invaluable aid for any pilot, keep up the awesome content!

@heycameraman4411 6 лет назад

Oh yeah. I'm totally digging this one. I'll ask my instructors if they're comfortable doing this with me.

@airwipe1639 4 года назад

Soooo how’d it go

@flydodom 6 лет назад

Jason is the Pilot. Wonderful insight once again to have controls.

@Bigsky1991 4 года назад

That's a nice confidence building and point of view technique... I teach similar techniques in Helo's that "demystify" some of the Helo yank n bank control inputs. When I did my FW Commercial transition in DeLand my IP was a retired Fireman, and he had ZERO skill in explaining or showing the "Why's and wherefores " of sight picture and control input... I had to literally figure it out myself all the way up to checkride day...

@tjmcnamara1961 3 года назад

Putting this one on my training agenda! Praying it’ll absolve me of my landing sins!

@HoleInTheClouds 5 лет назад

Great share! I am a newer CFI and I have 2 short students trying to solo. I will be teaching them this on there next lesson! Thank you 🙏

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 года назад

They need to use a big cushion, Cessna panels block the view a lot.

@VictoryAviation 4 года назад

I can’t wait to get my CFI so I can utilize all these great exercises to teach my students. I absolutely love teaching things, so adding all these to my hip pocket is awesome!!

@kimberlywentworth9160 Год назад

@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC I use a cushion, I like to be able to see out.

@benderaviation 4 года назад

This helps so much. I really appreciate using this technique when practicing stalls as well.

@renmanmb 6 лет назад

This is a great little drill. I'm looking forward to our Mountain Adventure in June.

@jogowing5993 Год назад

Thank you! This has improved my takeoffs and landings so much!

@darrenberkey7017 4 года назад

Not a pilot myself, but I am using the new MS Flight Simulator, and this video is actually very helpful. I usually "cheat" by raising the seat in the cockpit view (although it does have a limit), but now that I've seen this video, I'm anxious to get home tonight and use this method in the simulator. Thanks! :)

@timniles2634 4 года назад

Heard you talk about this several times but just did not understand what you were getting at....now I totally get it. Ready to go grab a CFI and give it a try. Thanks for the post. You rock!

@chris.weather 5 лет назад

Great video. I don’t think a lot of young CFIs teach this way, or at least emphasize using the front-side window.

@toppops22 4 года назад

What a brilliant lesson. I have a C182 Q and my wife learnt to fly in it totally. Never flew another plane except my 182. She achieved her PPL in 4 months. Anyway she had trouble with landing because she had no transition from an easier plane that would have given her consolidation of technique. If her instructor could have taught her to look out the side like this it most likely would have helped her a whole lot more. In hindsight though on the point of learning in a 182, don’t do it. It’s good to start off in something smaller, easier on the controls, slower and less complex.

@marksill8020 3 года назад

I'm definitely going to try this.

@aztecwarrior1421 4 года назад

Sounds good. I am going to try this on a Sports Cruiser

@Ilovealtoids 5 лет назад

I wish you could give me flight instruction. I have had some great flight instructors, but I'm struggling with a lot of strange nerves right now. I am a student pilot with an end-goad of flying for an airline and really need some extra assistance.

@d.wayneotto1094 6 лет назад

What a great exercise and lesson. Your explanations are great! I wish I had been taught that during my flight training.

@bowhuntinoh 6 лет назад

Thanks for explaining things in a way that’s easy to understand

@airfiero4772 6 лет назад

Maybe I missed it, but you talked about left to right directional control with this method but you can also use it to help judge height above the runway during the flare. I fly a T210 and it is exactly as you describe with the big engine and cowl obscuring the view of the runway centerline. But it also helps with height. In addition to looking left, I also shift my shoulders slightly left to give a better view out the side. It has helped my landings.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

awesome, yes agreed, thanks for the comment

@ArcticMayhem 6 лет назад

One of the things I love about my 170B is that the visibility over the nose is amazing, even on bushweels. I always have to remind myself to use the view out the side when flying other aircraft. If you haven't had the opportunity to fly a 170 or early 172, you should give it a try. You will find yourself flying nose high at first because of the huge sight picture.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Yes, I have flown some very early 172's and I think they have great forward visibility. I've never flown the 170 but will keep my eyes open for the opportunity! I find that it's mostly with the larger makes and models where this reference really pays dividends ... but still, even in the 172 during climbs / slow flight - it can come in very handy.

@carbonhazard 5 лет назад

Jeeze, I wish my CFI would have told me this. I have issues with flares and landings but I think this can really help me. Cheers!

@gordonfeliciano4315 4 года назад

Hey... I was watching some of your other videos and came across this one. Very helpful. So, in our Tiger, visibility is great off the nose with that big bubble canopy until you raise it for takeoff or in the flare for landing...typical issue. I've used my version of your technique and it has helped me improve my takeoffs and landings, especially in crosswinds. I'm able to maintain positive directional control and remain aligned with the center-line simply by adjusting rudder and aileron inputs according to what I see out the left side of my canopy, adjacent to the cockpit panel. It does take some practice. I've taught my son how to use this technique as well and he makes near perfect landings and takeoffs most of the time. Thanks again for another great lesson.

@TheFinerPoints 4 года назад

I think Grumman was easily 20 years ahead of their time.

@1plusdj 2 года назад

Awesome training

@Cessna_182 6 лет назад

Thanks for this video! I learned flying the172A which I had no problem seeing out the front. After getting my PPL I purchased a 182Q. I have been so uncomfortable with my landings in the flair and just didn't fully know why, until now! My CFI never mentioned that I needed to look out the side of the front window in the flair with the 182. I became so frustrated! Thanks for helping me put the puzzle together! I will work on looking out the side when in the flair or any nose up attitude. :o)

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Roger Parker excellent Roger! I’m so happy I could help 👍

@maxbootstrap7397 5 лет назад

Buy a camera, attach to the underside of the body as far back as possible and watch on a screen during your landing (ipad, dynon, whatever). Point the camera so the bottoms of your tires are visible in the top of the frame. From then on you'll know exactly how high about the ground your tires are... and you'll make great landings [almost] every time.

@michaelwhitley2081 2 года назад

On a lit runway I was thought to avoid the centreline slightly to avoid the lights but my instructor always reminded me that the runway has a centreline so you should use it!

@coolas21 6 лет назад

Thanks so much for another awesome video. I have a couple students that need just this that I’ll be flying with tomorrow.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Luke Grout awesome Luke. Let me know how it goes

@coolas21 6 лет назад

The Finer Points Well bad weather canceled our flight last week but got it done today. It went well. We were all over the place at first then he got it down the middle.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Luke Grout awesome, glad it worked out for you.

@Nate_Higgins 6 лет назад

You're born to teach. I'm sure you are making great pilots.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Thanks Nathan

@anthonysimmons5813 Год назад

Consistently struggling with my landings as a ppl student and about 50 hrs in. Cfi told me about the rob machado video and then I found this one. Definitely going to try this when I head out to fly in about 2 hours.

@hg2. Год назад

Well done. Thanks.

@psyrixx 6 лет назад

Excellent!

@jeffauen 6 лет назад

This is such a valuable drill. My CFI had me do this and slalom the white lines, every other one, while holding the nose up. You get very comfortable while close to the ground. I assume you do some low level airborne stuff next? 10 feet. 5 feet.

@mannypuerta5086 3 года назад

Centerline control...airliners and taildraggers. Landing on a 20 wide runway helps, too.😎

@lefthandedfenceguy4924 4 года назад

I will use this when I start my PPL training. Thanks!

@LouisLeet-l1p Год назад

Hello…I have been flying 57 years and have gotten sloppy. Your videos are helping me get “sharper”…THANK YOU! In the “Lindberg View”, how does one adjust for variable width runways? I’m transitioning to a new aircraft which is more squatty, has a longer nose, etc! Thanks.

@carlospaniagua1001 6 лет назад

That’s what some friends and i were talking about today... i learned it after several hours. Now i know i wasn’t wrong haha, thanks for sharing.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Carlos Paniagua you’re way ahead of the curve!

@carlospaniagua1001 6 лет назад

The Finer Points thank you! just trying to step up a little and looking at the finer points always while flying :)

@christopherculvey3391 5 лет назад

Wish I had the money to go to California and train with this guy. Might have to go visit for a few hours after I get some training back at home.

@coreyjordan2745 4 года назад

wow, that was nice. There is always something to learn in Aviation!!

@slash990 5 лет назад

That's a really cool drill to practice. I'm having the same problem landing from the right seat during flare.

@GaryMCurran 6 лет назад

Been a while since I've seen that approach into 33 at Oakland! In fact, I think the last time I saw it was from the camera mounted in a Cessna 320 Skynight, N3318Q! :) I think that modern day pilots are too engrossed in the panels, especially something like the G1000. Now, I'm 6', and I trained in a 150, so seeing over the panel, even in the flare wasn't too hard. It seems the 172 panels are higher. But, I was taught to fly by reference to something on the ground. A grease pen on the windshield worked really well, and after a while I could fly straight and level, as well as turns to a certain angle just by looking outside. Sure, I needed to cross check to the instruments, but the outside reference was my primary indicator. I wonder if I was able to get back into flying if I could do it again. Nice video, Jason, thanks for the upload.

@daniellaufer6204 5 лет назад

Hey, great video! I’ve been enjoying the amount of info you can put into one vid while still explaining everything diligently. The only thing I would recommend (if possible) is to have your face in the middle of the shot when talking, as this is were viewers are drawn to. Thanks for this amazing content!

@paradiserelaxation6081 5 лет назад

thank you! I will try to check more outside next time!

@DirtNerds 4 года назад

Thanks Great Tip as I am doing final preps to solo!

@MrAlwaysBlue 5 лет назад

I use the left side of the runway, same side as we drive in UK!

@JPSalamat 6 лет назад

I'll need to share this with my CFI. I'd like to try this.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Awesome JP, let me know how it goes. If he / she is wondering I did it with 10 flaps and a very low power setting, riding the throttle to make sure we didn't lift off. I asked for the option but advised tower that we would be doing high speed taxis down the runway before lifting off each time. The runway was over 5000 feet and had fixed distance markers so I could keep track of runway remaining. Have fun!

@topofthegreen 5 лет назад

I so love you're videos, I learn so much.

@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 4 года назад

Good video.

@boommer3564 5 лет назад

This is awesome. My instructors keep forcing me to put stuffs underneath and behind me.

@outtabubblegum7034 4 года назад

Interesting. I always have thought about that, but didn't know the technique existed

@adrianjaroszewski7107 4 года назад

What an excellent teaching method. Only if I could afford flying course I'd be looking for that kind of approach to the teaching. Someday maybe :) for now I'm having fun with Cessna in sim. I was flying back then when microsoft released the century of flight. I'm not sure why but i don't experience G1000 planes that much as older planes with ordynary gauges. I love navigating, it makes me knowing my area much better. I ejoy the view and consider this as part of navigation, G1000 kills that aviation spirit in my opinion :P Sorry for poor writing, That's not my native language, but I found flying most sattisfying thing I could do and I fly only in sim lol. My budged good quality time ;d

@bbgun061 6 лет назад

Wow, that's a great technique! Also helpful for any plane with fixed seats. I will definitely use this next time I'm flying. Would you recommend alternating between left and right, or only focusing on the left corner?

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Benjamin Brooks only the left of you’re on the left or right if you’re in the right. Aim small like you’re shooting a gun.

@thefireprint7665 5 лет назад

This is all magic fella! I am addicted for sure...as soon as i get controll over my fear and ignorance regarding the plane actually handling the force of a steap turn and actually can withstand more force than i believe it can.. im going flying! :D Thank you kindly for all your videos. Appreciate it!.. not only am i learning, im litterally seeing with my eyes it can handle it. hehe so thank you

@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 4 года назад

Props in general due to possible prop strike because prop is far to close to the ground.

@WolfPilot 4 года назад

My takeoffs are spot on perfect. My landings suck balls. My CFI has never mentioned the Linbergh Reference. Likewise, I had to learn proper rudder steering all by myself.. If you are using the Lindbergh Reference when you are landing, I take it that you are not "looking further down the runway"?

@leocheung8864 5 лет назад

Great videos, super helpful. Would you be able to do a constant speed prop operation video?

@mt9021 7 месяцев назад

I'm struggling with landings a lot (specifically roundout to the flare; I think I'm not pulling enough) and have been trying to find different ways to help me. Everyone tells me to look at the end of the runway and use my peripherals, but it is not really working. Going to try this here in my next lesson. So I guess I should look outside my left-forward window once I'm in my roundout - flare instead of using my peripherals?

@orlandospencer 6 лет назад

Once again, All I saw in this video was the “Finer Point” Got my PPL a month ago now doing IR Training and planning to do a C182T checkout. What recommendations you have for me for my IR training and most importantly the checkout in a new aircraft the Cessna Skylane C182T? Thank you for any additional science you can through my way.

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Awesome! Congrats and good luck on the IFR training. My advice for the 182 transition is to get comfy with the sight picture we discuss in this video for sure.

@orlandospencer 6 лет назад

The Finer Points thank you so much for tip Jason, and thank you for the congrats. Still feel like I know nothing lol. So much to learn, so now I am trying to fine tune those skills. I love you work. I rang you with my top teachers, Rod Machado, John King, Jason (MzeroA) and my second instructor (Rick Poinsett) PS. My firm do business development if you ever need some help help me know. I would be happy to pay you back with some of my own knowledge.

@GaryMCurran 6 лет назад

Orlando, I don't know if instructors still say this to newly minted PPLs, we used to hear it all the time. Your PPL is a "license to learn." In 40, 60, or even 80 hours of instruction and flying to gain your PPL, there's just not enough time to cover everything. Every month, FLYING magazine has 'I Learned About Flying From That' and if you haven't read it, I highly recommend you do. Pilots with thousands of hours, or newly minted pilots share their experience and help others to learn. Moving forward to get your Instrument Rating is a great thing, keep going for your multi and commercials, too. But, right here, right now, is probably going to be the best learning experience for the rest of your aviation career. Be safe.

@orlandospencer 6 лет назад

I completely know what you mean Gary. I have learn that I am always learning. even with 101 hour now, I feel like there is still so much to learn. and I never feel like I know as much as I should know, so I keep digging for more info, from FAAST, to AOPA Air Safety Institute, from Keeping up with Training to Watching good training vids like this 0:01 on youtube, I keep learning each and every day. I will be go all the way to multiengine and and all, But I feel as the more I go up the more likely it is to take early PPL training for granted and those are a basics for everything else as you have implied. Gary Thank you so much for responding, this mean a lot to me.

@SirRawtcha 6 лет назад

I'm using this tomorrow morning, my takeoffs and landings are atrocious...

@edwinkania5286 5 лет назад

Im with ya brother, sometimes mine are good and sometimes they are hard landings. Used to be full stall at 3~5ft high that sucked!!!!

@OBENSquad_21 5 лет назад

Don’t beat yourself up, you gonna get it Just give it to me It’s pretty much comes down to building the site picture

@benderaviation 5 лет назад

@@edwinkania5286 I'm at the same point, as a 6 hour PPL student. Will try this with my instructor!

@tjmcnamara1961 3 года назад

I hear ya. I’m almost too embarrassed to return to the field.

@ScottBluemel 5 лет назад

Jason, how do you know you are on the center line using the Linberg reference as you land? What do you look for in the side window that tells you the aircraft is tracking on the centerline vs. tracking off the centerline?

@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад

Well, you start lined up with the centerline and then use the Lindbergh reference to avoid drifting. You can see if you're drifting toward the edge of the runway or away from it ...

@ScottBluemel 5 лет назад

@@TheFinerPointsThank you for the clarification, Jason. It is very helpful. Thank you for the videos you've posted! I've learned a LOT from them!

@mitchberge8031 4 года назад

Great video I understand it well, I would like to get my instructor to do this with me!

@GeniusVisualss 4 года назад

“Don’t flare, transition.” Jason shapert MzeroA

@davidrobins4025 4 года назад

Slick.

@cq7415 2 года назад

Good info. I still want to see forward though if I can. Thanks for sharing.

@ekkehardg.9851 5 лет назад

If I ever get near your home airstrip, I'll book a lesson! :-) My landings aren't bad at all. But dude you have a few good/brilliant "different viewing angles" :-) Loved the mountain flying videos with Steve too! Fly safe! Blue skies!

@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад

Thanks! Definitely come find me if you're out this way, I'd love to fly with you. Maybe join us on an Adventure trip in 2019 ...

@JIFD 5 лет назад

Stellar!

@jasdevsingh16 4 года назад

I need this technique for flaring as i cant see the center line when flaring. But i dont get this technique, 1)while flaring are we looking at the front side window or using our peripheral vision. If we are literally looking at 1 of the front side window, i believe we cant see if the nose is pointer straight and cant see other things like the aircraft sinking? 2) what exactly are we seeing as well? The runway becoming closet to us? Thanks

@OBENSquad_21 5 лет назад

The most important that I did That saved me and improved my landing is I got absolutely rid of the word “flare” why? You ask Because whenever I heard the word flare I instantly pull up

@jeremykendrick8959 6 лет назад

Thanks for this!!!

@MagnarNordal 5 лет назад

This is a good exercise before you start flying taildraggers.

@junglejetdriver 4 года назад

How do you actually use the Lindbergh Reference to judge yaw in the climb out? What visual cues would the aircraft give you to tell you when you need to be using more rudder?

@SuperTexasBlues 9 месяцев назад

Just lost my take off and landing virginity yesterday... not being able to see over the nose during take off made me VERY uncomfortable... I am going to try this technique the next time I go up... i am assuming that the edge line will climb the edge of the instrument panel if drifting to the right, and will fall off of the windscreen if drifting left... Is this corret?

@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 4 года назад

I hate high wings. They float to much and the wing itself does not fully get into ground effect vs a asymmetrical low wing plane. The low wing is much easier to land, especially in cross winds.

@susanray8911 2 года назад

Can you use this same technique in a Piper Warrior?

@apennameandthata2017 5 лет назад

1000:3 like to dislike ratio. Best I’ve seen. Might be closer to 2000:3.

@clearofcloud2038 6 лет назад

.....and that's how to use a mahoosive runway for good training :-)

@TheOchoCinco 4 года назад

Man that's tough

@bj2benn93 3 года назад

What power setting did you use roughly for this?

@IamthePMofAustralia 6 лет назад

Damn, why cant I find an instructor like you in Aus!

@TheFinerPoints 6 лет назад

Thanks. I'd love to come down that way for a visit sometime. If that happens, I'll let everyone know about for sure

@scottycatman 4 года назад

What about those fancy side windows? I use those sometimes.

@twistedmr 3 года назад

how can he if he is even wheel on centreline?

@bwagenberg 4 года назад

Why doesn't every plane with a blind spot have a camera in the front grill?

@TheFinerPoints 4 года назад

That's an interesting thought. I 'm not sure it would work. Anyway, call me old school, but blind spot or not -- there is always somewhere to look. I think of the Pitts (small bi wing aerobatic plane if you didn't know), when I learned to land it ... my instructor was saying ridiculous things like, "do you see that tiny triangle of horizon underneath the top wing just where the cowling arcs around? ... focus there" haha. I'm not sure a camera would have helped but sometimes I wonder about where synthetic vision is headed.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 года назад

Long taxi or long take off?? I dont stop and taxi back. Fly it around the pattern for another long landing and take off. Long taxi is a waste of time and money for students and I sort of get so than bored with them. Taxi time should not be logged as "FLIGHT TIME"

@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 4 года назад

I am afraid to land a high wing.