Onewheel GT S-Series - Fast as funk 

They’re still doing that BS huh? I was gonna buy this one, but naaah

Isn’t it for sponsors to buy their team ? $3200 seems like a lot of money to me but maybe I’m stuck on pre inflation dollars.

​@adobomoto look into the floatwheel. Completly open source, more powerful, more range, and cheaper

Was interested in it even though it looks way slow compared to downhill skating but def not now, the idea that you cant even repair your own property is anti human growth.

Fuck one wheel.. they need to support right to repair before I ever buy one again

Floatwheel ADV is definitely a competent board and has torque for days. GT S-Series is easily taking it in the top speed category though. That voltage is insane, and from the things I've heard, sounds like it's capable of faster speeds than pretty much any of the VESC-based builds have been able to achieve so far. Which I mean personally, I'd rather trade off speeds over like 32mph in exchange for more low end torque any day, so I'd rather the torquier Floatwheel over the higher speed GTS, at least specs wise. But I mainly ride trails, might be a different story for those who ride streets primarily

I’ve got a float wheel motor sitting at my office, but I’ve been waiting for the rest of the board to show up. I’ve been following Tony’s journey since the beginning and bet it’s going to be a great option, but really hard to compare right now. TBH they same tailored for quite different riders.

It's not faster

​@nicoaleman hey man, how do you know the floatwheel has more torque than the gts? I am a bigger guy so I am all about that torque!

@@nicoaleman Yeah, I'm for sure not looking at higher speeds. This thing is enough of a deathtrap as is. I'm trail riding with a LOT of roots, so I try not to exceed speeds I can outrun.

Hell yea! Hope you still love it!

@@JesseDriftwood absolutely! I'm on Onewheel number three. GT S-Series has me longing for a fourth.

I was channeling my inner Shaun Hover.

Fr, just let people like what they like

now I have even less incentive to go finish it 😅

That’s a fantastic idea.

It’s called the GT

@@alexbowden7524 The GT still rips.

Not for $900 more. It turns into a $3500 anchor when it runs out of power. 😂

I saw a terrible crash! (And I couldn’t help but laugh!)

I’ve actually never ridden an enduro so I can’t say for sure. But it’s definitely a much softer compound than the stock GT tire. It felt stable and grippy and overall a huge step up from any tire I’ve used previously. Which admittedly is just the stock Vega, whatever Burris treaded one I’ve got on my XR, and the stick GT.

I do that all the time! Or rather I used to, but I’ve now explored seemingly every possible nook and cranny in my city.

I never fly with my Onewheel! Not worth the risk.

Hell yea! Most people won’t need to upgrade. Like Kyle said, this is a board for a very specific user.

Do you have any figures on how common this is? It’s never happened on any of my boards, or any of my friends boards that live near me. I’m sure it does happen, I just wish I had numbers that weren’t anecdotal.

​@@JesseDriftwood It's the fact that it's happening at all, I got up to 3 stair drops but had to stop once all the stories came out, that's just one issue with FM but still holding me back. It's just time for me to make the move to Floatwheel 🤙🏽

@@-JohnSmith- The fact that’s it’s happening at all? That’s an impossibly high standard to hold for anything. You don’t think floatwheels are going to run into any issues? Physics exist, there’s no getting around it. Anyway, if you get a floatwheel I hope you have a great time! I’ll be testing one out in the very near future, just waiting for the rest of it to ship.

​@@JesseDriftwoodlike I said just one issue with FM if I had to do it all over again I would choose Floatwheel, GT was my first board and I've got 6,000 mi on it now. I'll gladly support a company that doesn't treat its customers like future motion.

@@-JohnSmith- It’s your money (or in this case crypto). The thing is we still have no way of knowing what floatwheel would be like if they hit scale like FM. Growing a business is insanely hard, rooting for the underdog is insanely easy, understanding the nuance between these things on the other hand… not so much.

Not my finest hour.

@@JesseDriftwood ok

Very not true.

​​@@JesseDriftwoodno.. its EXACTLY the same board as gt. They took out a few cells, new color brand, and beefed up some wire harnesses to handle the increase in voltage. The motor ( quote me here ) is the SAME motor, they just changed the magnet angle . WTch Tony from float wheels videos, fm just did all his suggestions. This is a gt with the pcb settings changed

@@MrDmadness I like Tony, but he doesn’t have a GTS to make those claims. My understanding is that the cells are different than what’s in a GT, the BMS is also rewired and upgraded to handle the additional voltage. Why would I quote you on how this motor was built rather than the people who built the motor? I could be wrong, but I’m not going to just take the word of people who are watching launch videos and speculating as gospel.

@@JesseDriftwood actually very true you paid spokesman

@@JesseDriftwood me saying "quote me" is more of a testament to my certainty if the claim I'm making. I'll wait to see but I'll own it if I'm wrong.. im not though... likely..

I’ve got a float wheel motor in my office and I’m currently waiting for the rest of it to show up. I’m sure it’ll be a great option for some people, but IMO it’s a different target audience. Loads of people won’t want to buy using crypto, or want to assemble themselves, or want to support what seems like a Chinese clone, or trust a companies first product etc. I’m not saying these things are necessarily good reasons, but they are going to compel a lot of people. The floatwheel is also heavier and (subjectively speaking) a bit uglier haha. I’ve followed Tony’s process since the beginning and think he’s made a lot of really great decisions, and it’s super cool to see the BTS of product development. Either way I’m fascinated by the progress of the tech and am really curious to see how this sport evolves in the future.

I really love my XR, and I'm dreading it dying 'cause the GT just doesn't appeal to me. Wish they'd stuck with the 6" tire

I’ve got an ADV it’s super powerful and has great range, but somehow my VESC tuning got all wonky and now it rides like trash, I need to start over calibrating everything from scratch. It’s also way heavier and that front grab handle is truly useless. I think Tony built a great board, but these aren’t exactly competing against each other for me. The GTS is the best board I’ve ever owned by a mile, commuting on it is so fun and I can quickly pick it up and bring it around with me, the ADV on the other hand… not so much!

It's the exact same board with a few thicker wires in it..the motor is thesame motor, I'll bet on it. They basically just changed the settings on the pcb.

I honestly don’t know! All I know is I’ve personally never experienced any of these issues and I do not baby my stuff in the slightest. I’m also a pretty light dude which I’m sure helps.

Have you had to send your board back for any repairs at all? because that could have been one of the times but they just replace parts so you'd never know. I had a problem with the balance wires when they installed it I had to fix it myself also had the problem with xt60 connectors with fretting it didn't even come loose.

@@-JohnSmith- I have to send my GT in for repairs but it’s definitely not a broken axle. Other than that, nope! I’m still riding my OG XR as my primary board and other than the tire it’s completely stock. I’ve ridden through at least 4 Canadian winters on if, and dropped it down a massive escarpment twice. The thing is a tank.

​@@JesseDriftwoodso you probably did have the problem with an xt60 connector and if it's out of warranty they will lie charge you $600, people have had the same even after they got it back, board still shut off because they're still using the same xt60 connectors.

It seems the EUC crowd has found my video lol. I get it, I have a v11, but they are such massively different vehicles.

@@JesseDriftwoodI'm not a Euc guy. The comment was based on me assuming that you're an American, but are using kilometers as a reference of speed in order to sell a high number.

@@andayaman OH! Haha my bad. Sorry I get those type of comments all the time from EUC riders because they go like 1000kmh these days. Looks like we both made bad assumptions!

For most people yeah! Which is why this isn’t a wheel for most people, it’s built for racing. Think about how much a good mountain bike costs.

Have you ever shopped for high end mountain bikes? Or really any other action sport? Shit gets expensive real fast.

I hear you, and I’m honestly torn on this topic. I actually don’t think they’re a shitty company at all, I think they exist in a shitty culture. FM are getting hit from both sides on this issue. The government wants them to crack down way harder, customers sue if they get injured, and bankruptcy is a real possibility if either of those things get slightly out of hand. How do you make a board that is both safer for the consumer, while also allowing them to customize or change parts themselves? I wonder if something similar to what we see in aviation might be necessary. Preventative maintenance is ok to do on your own aircraft, but other tasks need to be done by a certified mechanic.

@@JesseDriftwood we've been trying to figure out how to explain this for a long time, but it seems you've just done it.

@@JesseDriftwood equating the engineering complexity of an aircraft to an electric skateboard is absurd. I do ALL the maintenance on my car, which goes 80 mph every single day on my commute. GTFOH with that comment man.

@@simbadlemarin1815 It isn’t about the complexity, it’s about the level of risk involved. If I swap the BMS on my electric bike and it fails while I’m riding it, no problem. If the same thing happens while I’m doing 20~25mph on a Onewheel, the results can be catastrophic. Imagine doing the exact same maintenance on your car but knowing that if you made a mistake your car would fall 1000 feet out of the sky. The issue here isn’t whether or not you personally are competent enough to do the work, but what happens when people who aren’t competent enough do the work, get injured, and then sue FM. As I said before, I’m torn on this issue. I’m just arguing the other side because it feels like so many people have no nuance at all on the issue, they just get angry. I genuinely do understand your point, and there’s a lot I agree with. I think ethically if I purchase a product, than I have the right to do anything I want to that product. It’s mine, I own it. But the general public doesn’t give a shit about that. Look at the public perception of onewheels now after the CPSC shit. I’ve gotten phone calls and emails and texts from so many random family members because they think onewheels are all being mandatorily recalled because they are suddenly killing users. Imagine just how much more prevalent that would be in a world where there’s a huge increase in DIY repairs. I agree with TFL that FM should look into teaming up with certified repair shops to swap and repair certain critical components, and sell other ones. And they should make getting that accreditation available widely and quickly to as many cities as possible. But what do I know? I’m just a RU-vidr who likes making movies and riding electric vehicles, I don’t know how to run a massive company.

​@@Onewheeli think it would be very good if you make an official announcement by yourself on your website for example... i live in europe and there is no way to fix anything without spending too much money by sending fhe board to USA. If my XR will stop working one day i will do a VESC conversion for sure. I'm super fan of the onewheel but the maintenance chapter is a problematic topic for me. Thank you for reading fhis comment and all the best for you and the team! Greetings from switzerland where it's forbidden to ride a OW (XR, 3 year old, 4000km, one cop encounter and almost confiscated wheel..)

You can have two.

@@JesseDriftwoodPhenomenal!

@@DominusFeles Just not at the same time. Its a one for now, one for later type deal.

@@JesseDriftwood Ahwell, guess I can work with that 🦄

Well in about a week when the rest of my floatwheel shows up I’ll be able to compare! However saying it’s “batter” doesn’t tell us much. Better what? Better value? Maybe! Better performance? I don’t think so! Better weight? Absolutely not.

The same way Tesla recalls their cars. It’s just a firmware update.

Voluntary recall for people who don’t feel safe using them. The gov and media blew the issue way out of proportion IMO.

@@JesseDriftwood maybe. As a person who fell from one I will remain suspicious 🙂

@@antonijapek That’s fair! Believe me I’ve eaten shit on loads of onewheels. I broke a collar bone once and a rib another time. However none of these occasions did the board malfunction. Most people don’t understand the physics involved in self balancing vehicles, and when they over-torque the motor they assume that the board has failed. But in general, it’s good to be cautious!

@@JesseDriftwood in full honesty, it was my fault, but better UX around stopping could prevented the accident. It was a stupid situation, but after that I just didn't feel safe anymore. I thought that fear broke my general balancing intuition. But some snowboarder bought it from me so Pint is having a good life. 🙂

Thanks for making the sickest board I’ve ever ridden!

Hey Onewheel how come you delete all comments mentioning *FLOATWHEEL* on your videos??? if this is so much better you should welcome the competition 🤙🏽

​@@-JohnSmith-they Ignore the US Patents

@@aaronlarsen8412 onewheel is anti-consumer, which is worse?

If only the GT had more clearance I'd actually buy one. Maybe we can get a pint version 🤔

And yet it can't beat the specs of a VESC board at half the price.

@@ManifoldSkyI’m riding a floatwheel ADV right now. It’s fantastic, but far from perfect. The thing is super heavy and the handle on the nose (and tail which I’m glad they included) are way too small. Riding it is great, not riding sucks ass. It’s part of the reason I don’t ride my EUC often. I use these for a lot of commuting and city errands so being able to hold it is key. But for the record, aside from some small build quality and form issues, and the kinda janky setup process, the ride is very good. They did a great job with this motor.

@@JesseDriftwood And I have the adv Pro (though I'm not riding it, because I bricked the ESC). It IS heavy, but not that different than the GT, and I don't use the deck handles on any of them all that much, other than to maneuver the board around. But the problem is less that they're to small than that they're in the wrong place, way too close to the front edge, forcing you to grip with just your fingertips. But the maghandle is an ergonomically better experience anyway. The set up process sucks, especially if you have the newer ESC, since the new set up process is slightly different than what Tony, put on the video, just enough to make it problematic (which is what eventually led to me bricking the ESC, when the ESC powered off before completing the configuration). And my GT also shit the bed, so I’m stuck on a Pint or my Evolve GTR. Looking at either an InM Four otion V12 or a Begode T4. But regardless of any of that, it’s still better than to GT-S, an almost half the price, and I can fix things myself and upgrade components without some company trying to sabotage me every step of the way.

@@ManifoldSky I hear you, I just think these two boards are quite different from each other. You’re right that the GT was also quite heavy, which is why being 2 pounds lighter on the GTS is so nice. For general commuting purposes it’s much nicer to just move around and pick up and stuff. I regretfully don’t install the manhandle on my ADV since I generally prefer the deck handles, but I’ll have to go back and install it now because these ones are useless. I agree that right to repair is generally a good thing, but I don’t the think the US is setup for this to exist. If FM products were anything like the ADV right now you can be sure that the CPSC would have fully shut them down. I don’t know what the solution is that makes these boards safer to appease CPSC, and allows users to replace and repair any component they want. What do you think is a reasonable solution to this issue?

@@JesseDriftwood The solution to the repair issues are simple, since all these issues were created entirely on purpose by FM. The hide behind the DMCA to prevent repair by digitally signing and encrypting the signal between the ESC and BMS, so they communicate with each other to verify they are authentic FM parts. If you try to replace one or the other, you brick the board. They also rigged the BMS to brick if you ever disconnect it from the battery, and the only way to recover is to send the entire board to FM in CA, at YOUR expense. Etc.. They claim this is for rider safely but this is bullshit. It is entirely to prevent end users from repairing or even just upgrading their boards. The safely issues are related to the boards being under powered, and the ESC programming being faulty, so that, in some edge cases, the ESC asks the BMS for more power than it can put out, and since the BMS can't comply, it just shuts off power entirely, nosediving and launching the rider off the front. This can not be fixed by these feature updates like haptic buzz and beeps! Once the CPDC figures this out (possibly after a few more people die) FM will be right back where they started. That's the entire point of the GT-S. They're getting to hide this, claiming it's about speed, but the only reason to go to a 100v+ system is to create system overhead to provide headspace for the BMS/ESC to respond to these edges cases and send a voltage spike to the motor. Why would the CPSC shut down Floatwheel? There is no indication that the adv suffers from this issue that I've seen, and if it did, it could most likely be solved with a simple change to the VESC programming. Also, unlike FM, Tony is not marketing it as a general purpose commuter device.

Thanks pal :)

@@JesseDriftwood wow, hi Jesse! 👋🏼 No worries!

Actually $900 they upped the price on the gt 😂

For someone who is interested in getting a one wheel in the future, would someone who is pushing 290 have more chance of failing?

Or more issues persay

​@@dustroy3197as a 230 lb rider of the one wheel xr, it gets pretty rough sometimes. The power of the board affects both your acceleration and your braking, so attacking hills is tough. I've had to jump off going down steep hills because the motor wasn't strong enough to slow me down. If you're on flat ground, it shouldn't be any harder for you than anyone else. Maybe raise the tire pressure a bit to carry the weight better and increase your range. Once you're comfortable on flat ground, try out some shallow slopes, find the limits of your board. You'll have a lot of fun!

​@@dustroy3197 yep. 220 and have been badly injured.

Lol. Footpads aren't recalled but they suck just as bad as GT V2 they sent out. Motor still overheats if you ride it on trails long enough OR if they actually allowed you to put the power through it instead of limiting it via bullshit hardware. It's still trash, just faster version of it.

Yeah... my board's battery is shot.. i miss riding it. : (

Hey man look into a floatwheel

It was a voluntary recall that IMO was blown way out of proportion by both the gov and the media, but that’s a longer conversation.

@@JesseDriftwood that was my take as well. Thanks for responding and for making fun inspiring content.

Bodhi was using a GT-s wrapped in GT graphics 🤙🏼

You’re right actually! I’m 90% sure Bodhi’s board with the pink bumpers was his regular GT.

The GT will still exist in the lineup though. This board was specifically made for racing. It's always a tradeoff between power, weight, and range. I love that the GTS lighter, and almost never have range issues for the type of riding I do, but I know lots of people who would really benefit from both.

As someone with no real mechanical background, I have no idea why new magnets and different winding wouldn’t be considered a new motor. I thought those were the primary components of the motor no? What would need to be changed on the motor for it not to be a lie?

@@JesseDriftwood form factor of the motor, mostly size. FM motors haven't changed at all since the PINT, only thing they've done is slid slightly stronger magnets into exact same space. Same count windings don't offer more power, just allows them to tune the software differently. At the core of the problem, it does not give the user anything more in a way of experience. There's SuperFlux and CannonCore - both offer MUCH higher potential outputs and efficiency since they are able to stay cooler, and both are 6 inch form factor hub which actually retains useful tire properties unlike the thin rubber band that FM puts on their 6.5inch hubs. Your use of the wheel may not require anything more than a stock FM board, and that might even be most people out there, but for me and many others, this company is done for. We all love the concept, but hate what they do with their marketing, product dev, support, and most especially their anti-competitive, product hindering practices.