When I was a kid, back in the 60s, our GP, Dr McEwan, worked endless hours, did house calls for any reason and was a great friend to all of his registered patients. He was incredibly underpaid and was worth a fortune. When he retired, the rot set in and his replacement, a young woman, told my mother a week before she died, "if you can get to the telephone, you can get to the surgery".Doctors used to dedicate their lives to looking after others. Nowadays, just make sure your illness occurs when they are available.
Been with my surgery since birth over 80 yrs ago. It was good but now it’s run by NON Medical dodos behind the desk &. On the phone IF you can get through👀❗️
Same my dr from when I was a child in the 60s was Dr Williams, he was lovely did home visita at any time day or night, you just don’t get that sort of care these days, lucky if you can get an appointment.
Most work three days if their woman and she had a family one day a week. They don't need to work five days a week as their wages are substantial. I mean in 2000, doctors salary was 56,000 to 60,000 per annum so goodness knows what it is now.
Want to see a GP? Go private, you will be seen immediately and that’s the problem! Most of them are too busy seeing private patients to do any work for the NHS!
No, because then you will have to wait to see a private physician. That will become the nhs and if you don't get it through work and you can't afford it then what. Fix the nhs
Who pays for my private medical care? I’m already working two jobs to support my family. Do I conjure up some more days in the week to work a third job?
I did enquire about medical aid here in the UK the cheapest was £75 monthly (that’s just me) I can’t afford that unless I stop paying this council tax.
South Korea has amazing healthcare system in ability to see and care for citizens. Get rid of upper management, Diversity training, unnecessary frivolous spending. Hire back old fashioned charge nurses and end the visitor first programs.
That's what I thought, there's no such thing as a GP appointment unless you're fit enough to jump the hoops, so I would argue that if you are fit enough to do this then you don't need an appointment.
Yes 3/4 days per week, high wages, private practice. Don’t talk about patient safety, you can’t get to see one. My old doctor when I was a kid years ago, you could get into see them most days you needed to and they were on call, didn’t use locums. Doctors are disinterested now, like nurses, it was a vocation, now it’s just a job, going on the bus in their uniforms, wearing same uniform the next day. Have you watched how they clean a bed after a patient is discharged from a ward. Strip bed, wipe over top of mattress, remake with clean sheets. They used to wipe all over the mattress both sides and edges, wipe down the bed frames, make sure lockers were disinfected and under beds swept and mopped. Now it’s a 2 minute job and into the office chit chatting!!
To be honest, we wouldn’t notice if gps were on strike, coz haven’t got in to see one since 2020! All appointments are over phone now! Cutting appointments by half has already been done, 4 yrs ago!
Well said. When you do get s doctor appointment to review your prescription, the nurse suddenly tells you she's a nurse and can't do that. Then you have to try the battle of wills with the receptionist again. Not the receptionist s fault it's the doctors who give her the orders.
By the time you get through on the phone to my GP practise, all the appointments are gone. I have called over 30 times in a morning and not gotten through. There is no phone queueing. The other option is to queue up at 8am at the medical centre to speak to a receptionist who you tell you want to speak to a doctor. Then you go home and wait for a doctor/locum to phone you. The doctor/locum will decide if they want to see you in person or maybe prescribe you medicine over the phone. If they want to see you in person they will ask you to come back to the clinic the same day. This is not ideal if you are feeling ill or in pain.
This man is part of the problem, he says being a gp causes mental health problems for them. Am i missing something? Might as well just get the books out and find natural remedies. Sack the gps . Im a retired nurse who used to work 13 hrs a shift with one day off a week if we were lucky because staffing was short. These thieving work shy people need to remember who pays their wages.
When we get a new leader they need to write a NEW contract for these GPs and it will include them only getting paid for each patient they see at the practice , and all appointments GPs will only be available to see a patient in person only
I won't go into what I think is the reason behind the problem, but currently the GP service isn't fit for purpose. I had a family member just recently being told, day after day, to ring back tomorrow and, if their symptoms got worse, go to A&E. It took about 5 days before eventually getting seen. That is unacceptable.
What next, those 25 appointments will only be available by video ? What an utter mess so-called healthcare is now in the UK...fortunately for me I would have to be dying before I would seek advice from one of these selfish people. Feel bad for others who need ongoing 'care' however.
We are never asked "who is your GP" because nobody has an allocated GP any more, in fact the system had done everything to make it difficult to even see a GP, nowadays it has to be online, "Econsult" how are the elderly expected to cope.
I take it we won’t have to pay NI now we can’t see dentist , doctor or draw a pension without being taxed and giving away thousands in inheritance and retirement healthcare……💪
Burn out on 3 days per week ?!?!?! they need to go back to an acute hospital with an on call bleep for 6 months... they'd be begging for their desks back at the surgery !!!
Hospitals are exactly the same - Mike interviewed an NHS hospital consultant/surgeon a few weeks ago and he said he only worked 3 shifts per week and the rest of his time was spent doing his own research papers. He said he couldn't work 5 days a week because it was not good for his mental health. Meanwhile everyone else works 5-7 days per week. Its an absolute joke.
To say they get burn out. What about people who do PHYSICAL work?? They work up to 70hrs a week. These doctors need to change careers so we can get doctors who understand what being a doctor means...
Just wondering why I can't get an appointment even if someone eventually answers the phone when.... in frustration I get in my car and drive to the surgery to find it practically empty. What are they actually doing?...
My god it’s bad enough having to type a triage form begging to see a g p and your reasons why you deserve a face to face consultation and wait for a decline and told to go to the pharmacy without them taking industrial action it just means more people will end up going to A& E causing a backlog
Appointments are hard enough to get now , my gps have 7 doctors and many trainees but if you go the place is always empty, they are always working from home on telephone consultation
Already have to email my Doctor and wait 3 weeks for a so calped 24 hr response for a basic reply, whilst the surgery's are completely empty everytime i enter. The age of Narcisissm is in full swing. Even the so called saviours of humanity are rinsing the public for all they can.
NHS Brighton A&E is an absolute disgrace. Patients crammed right up next to each and lining the walls of the corridor. Only one doctor and one consultant all night. Nurses dragging their feet and barely speaking to anyone except chatting and laughing amo gst themselves. No cleaning and no care. The NHS is finished. My daughter was mutilated by an ENT 'Specialist' who did not perform his duties with any type of professionalism and care at all. The whole system needs to change. Even the ENT consultant the next morning was a rude heinous 'man' .. no wonder the place is like that .. rotten from the top all the way down. Brighton is a teaching hospital so Avoid if you value your life and go private. It is my opinion the NHS is only their to maim and kill.
Personally I avoid GP surgeries like the plague, but imo GPs should be paid per patient treated, not the number of patients registered at their practice, otherwise there is no incentive to see more patients. Tony BLIAR effed it up like most things, overpaying GPs, with large numbers then choosing to work a 2, 3 or 4 day week. As for this plonker, you can’t have it both ways, if GPs effectively work to rule, less patients will be seen and inevitably some diagnosis will be late or missed entirely.
We have four surgerys in are medical centre ,but not one has a Doctor ' its all nurses , so they have been sitting at home earning £30000 or over a year
I'd be surprised if ALL the doctors at my GP surgery see 25 patients between them never mind each. They're palming most of us off to the poor nurses who are now expect to diagnose many illnesses etc and if they're stumped I've seen them pop out to ask a doctor what they should do. But hey, these doctors here are only on £116k a year 🤷♂️
How can patient care still be as normal if appointments are reduced?! Our GP practices already have less time because they have to visit the illegal migrants a couple of days a week, something I had not been aware of until our practice nurse had accidentally divulged. This will be ALL practices.
Nom nom nom. Doctors are paid a fortune over their careers. They claim they are paid more overseas, but their education is subsidised by 85% in the UK. The deal always was that whilst you trained you were paying that back when you become a Consultant then you have the opportunity to make a lot of money.
Huh, so some GPs may only see 25 people a day, but you must still present yourself to the GP if you are ill so nothing is missed 🤔 Anyone else see where there may be an issue here.
Precisely, not to mention the frequent advice we receive to 'consult your GP' before, for example, commencing some diet or other. If I were to repeat that to the gatekeeper/reception staff at my doctor's surgery - not that I've even met him - I'd either be laughed out of town or told off for wasting their time.
Fully agree, I gave up using the service a decade ago, never found anything they have said any good use. They help cancer and anyone that needs medication and that is it, not all medication they prescribe is needed mind - I would argue most is not.
@user-nw3xc2tk6y I've had a lot of friends that had cancer, they're all dead. I've been sick for a long time and nothing they gave me worked, watched a show on rumble and took 7mg nicotine patch for 3 days n I feel better already, got 3 more days to go. I'm out working in the garden again.
I thought choosing to become a doctor was a vocation, not a path to wealth? My mother-in-law was taken to her GP with a horribly infected toe. It was so bad, it smelt awful and the obvious answer, even to a totally non medical person, was a course of strong anti biotics. The GP glanced at the swollen. red foot, didn't even touch it and then booked a podiatrist appointment for six weeks hence. I was furious and had her seen by another GP who immediately proscribed antibiotics. When such basic failures are evident, you wonder what sort of GP's you're dealing with. I think you can tell the vocational GP's from those who were pushed into it by their families and see it as a means to an end.
Almost impossible to get an appt now anyway, you have to phone "on the day" and if you miss it then you repeat it all over again the next day, and the next day, ad finitum; thats ok if you wish to live on the dratted phone. We'd better just die quietly then.
Ive lived in the same market town all my life. Back in the 80s my family had the same doctor who knew the whole family. House calls. Doctor receptionist made appointments rather then you having to tell them you're personal problems and them deciding if you need a appointment or not. We also had a police station and ambulance station. Now we have niether and can wait to wait hours for a ambulance
Yellowish-brown here 😂, lack of sunlight, six months with SCABIES a.k.a. flesh eating bacteria, still no diagnosis, my son has had three series of antibiotics, nothing has worked. A lacking healthcare system does not discriminate on the basis of skin tone 💁🏻♀️
Never mind industrial action I haven't been able to get an appointment for months! I can't make an appointment in advance I have to ring up every morning at 8 am every day I ring before 8 and I'm in a queue by time I get through 10/20 mins later there are no appoints left and am told to ring them at 8am the following day this has been going on since February, since I went to the Opticians and was told I have leaking capillaries in the back of my eyes probably caused by high blood pressure. She was going to e-mail my doctor and told me to get my blood pressure checked as I may need medication to control it. Well I haven't managed to get an appointment again today. GP's are a joke IMO,
GPs are massively overpaid and underwhelming competent. They are making fortunes out if making their clinics into businesses. I personally am unimpressed by the 'overseas' 1:13 GPs that I have dealt with. Why don't we train more of our own GPs? It's easier to learn to be a GP doctor than it is to be a good IT guy looking after everything from laptops, servers, networks, printers scanner and all the Cloud and peripherals connectivity.
At present it is so difficult to get an appointment. If by chance you are lucky to get an appointment you go to the practice and the waiting are is empty How can it get any worse gi to walk in go to A+E It is about time the entire system was managed effectively
I needed an emergency appointment with my GP, hours in a quene on the phone, eventually got through discussed my problem, was told to wait for a phone call, instead got an appointment in another surgery with a clinical assistant didnt know what that was, the person was way better and more thorough than any GP very impressed, got meds, scan appointment asap, couldnt fault the young lady at all.
Ahhh!!! So you got wanted you wanted and that is why the person was excellent. Don't care whether you actually needed it or not. Don't care if unwanted investigation lead to using up already stretched services.
I haven’t been able to see my GP or any GP since the covid pandemic began and when I’ve asked to speak with my GP on the telephone in all these years he’s only phoned back once,it seems to me that when you telephone your surgery it’s the receptionist who is in charge as they ask you what’s wrong and they decide what to do,I rarely have to go or speak to my GP about my health but it seems now that if something is wrong there’s no point going to your GP your better off going to AE which to me is ridiculous,GP’s are overpaid for the work they do basically lazy and people are suffering because of it.
He is a doctor! Does he provide informed consent? Let's not forget what doctors and other medical staff provided and didn't provide. Don't get at me they have no one to blame but themselves.
The level at which the population is increasing is unsustainable both for services to function & budgetary demands. Look at the trend of NHS budget rises and you will see a sharp upwards trend as soon as we opened the doors to the unfunded demand of mass migration. This was especially bad considering it coincided with the baby boom generation becoming elderly and suffering age related health issues. You simply can’t keep just adding demand for homes, resources, food & services & expect things not to collapse. Especially when the majority of the population growth is people who won’t be net tax contributors, so the section of society that are net contributors falls and those who take out more than they put in increases, that is madness & that will lead not only to the collapse of public services, healthcare & welfare, it will also see the collapse of society.
I was very often sick with simple things. Last time to see GP was before COVID. I Had covid without seeing GP as it wasn't easy to see a GP. Changed my life style, eat real foods only and follow the advice of different GP who understand what I was going through was a life saver. I am now healthier. The feeling are now mutual.
Somebody's having a laugh. What these pampered types are planning will not make a very bad service any worse. To get see a doctor these days you've practically got be a "stiff" !