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Only One Man Knows Who Climbed Everest First and We Can't Find Him 

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@Thoughty2
@Thoughty2 3 года назад
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@thethreeabominations
@thethreeabominations 3 года назад
Amazing
@STriderFIN77
@STriderFIN77 3 года назад
Amazingk!!
@MoofieMoofMoof
@MoofieMoofMoof 3 года назад
nice
@Timo_Izadi
@Timo_Izadi 3 года назад
Everyone from now on comment “nuggets”
@Thijs_Albers
@Thijs_Albers 3 года назад
Fantastic story! I feel like this is precisely one of those videos that just needs you, your great mustache and the story to be complete. The jokes and the funny tone might be a bit overkill for this one, even though they've been perfect in other videos:) Please take it as a complement; you've become too good for your own jokes;)
@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access
@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access 3 года назад
It was one of my yeti cousins, they've been climbing it for centuries
@florin-titusniculescu5871
@florin-titusniculescu5871 3 года назад
Chomolungma, a.k.a Yeti Picnic Central.
@andy86i
@andy86i 3 года назад
YOU EAT BABIES!
@ML-gx9rp
@ML-gx9rp 3 года назад
Might have known one of your hairy assed ancestors would have stomped on them with your giant boat feet 😂😂
@daleksix1396
@daleksix1396 3 года назад
Some Yeti's got all these photos of Mallory and Irvine in their cave laughing their asses off... And using Irvine as furniture... 🧔🏼🏔🥶🪑🤣
@Tony32
@Tony32 3 года назад
I have it from a reliable source that you guys can teleport.
@obiwanshinobi87
@obiwanshinobi87 3 года назад
What if the first person to climb Everest was just a local that decided he wanted to climb the mountain decades or centuries before the English ever set their sights on it?...
@mathiasbasse9553
@mathiasbasse9553 3 года назад
Hello there master Kenobi
@shirs4002
@shirs4002 3 года назад
Well the Sherpa Monks might have climbed Mt Everest to meditat6or something. A lot of monks here prefer to meditate in extreme places so i think you're probably right.
@lurchibold
@lurchibold 3 года назад
I was thinking exactly the same thing, was just scrolling down to type it and yours was the first comment i saw lol.
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 3 года назад
@@modernstories8139 sounds like a monk thing to do lol
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 3 года назад
@Will King not it if it was 100s of years ago. India and the surrounding areas have been populated for 1000s of years. who knows, maybe someone somehow made it up there 3000 years ago. it would be lost to history
@yadig3503
@yadig3503 3 года назад
I swear on everything that this is my favorite RU-vid channel, every single video interests me. The quality and research done for each topic is relatively unmatched on RU-vid, there are many channels that use this format but it’s rare to find one that hits on all cylinders like Thoughty2..
@HustlingCentral
@HustlingCentral 3 года назад
Your inquisitive vocabulary peaks my interest. Thank you for putting words to my ever dying love for Thoughty2.
@AlienMonkeyDXB
@AlienMonkeyDXB 3 года назад
"Fires" on all cylinders. Literally comparing to a smooth running piston engine. In this context a system, organisation, TouTube channel.
@SandraVargas92
@SandraVargas92 3 года назад
Agree, he is amazing.
@BenFeinVlogs
@BenFeinVlogs 3 года назад
Thoughty2 has consistently been by far and away my favorite RU-vidr for probably almost 2 years. My night gets so much better every single time I hear “Hey, Thoughty2 here”. And you said it best. He does not miss. The editing is unmatched as well, especially with the audio/music/FX. Incredible stuff my man. Please keep making content for us. You are the best. And you keep improving somehow.
@nickc8729
@nickc8729 3 года назад
I know, it's like most of his video titles sound like clickbait but then you watch them and they never are, they are amazing
@APerson-bn6cu
@APerson-bn6cu 3 года назад
Wang: “I found Irvine.” Everest: s-sh **stutters** shut up.
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 Год назад
That actually wasn't Irvine it was a different British climber from the 1930's if I remember correctly (although I forget his name) Michael Tracy's youtube channel has ALL of the confirmed, realistic information about everything Mallory & Irvine, along with explanations for profit motivations for people to spread misinformation (and likely move the oxygen tank for the 1999 documentary search) 🤨
@Perfectbeing1045
@Perfectbeing1045 3 года назад
Feels like Everest is trying to keep the mystery about Mallory and Irvine a secret.
@Chasstful
@Chasstful 3 года назад
The Mallory claim is pure speculation, Hilary and Norgay were the first to summit.
@ummyh5660
@ummyh5660 3 года назад
@@Chasstful there’s literally no way you can know that
@918Mitchell
@918Mitchell 3 года назад
@@Chasstful first confirmed to summit and return.
@Chasstful
@Chasstful 3 года назад
@@ummyh5660 I can know it for certain because its true. We know Hilary and Norgay summited. There is plenty of doubt that Mallory summited. I believe the consensus among mountaineering historians is that its doubtful that Mallory made it. This is mainly due to very primitive climbing equipment available in the 1920s. The maker of this video is overstating teh Mallory claim.
@ummyh5660
@ummyh5660 3 года назад
@@Chasstful sooo you don’t know for certain😂 that’s basically what you’re saying
@tunamc5759
@tunamc5759 3 года назад
imagine THINKING your first , and theres another dude just chilling up there 🤣
@dfjgdfuhgjldfsgdljfh
@dfjgdfuhgjldfsgdljfh 3 года назад
Biggest pain in the back side
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ 3 года назад
Literally chilling as well! 🤣
@TheFagerlund
@TheFagerlund 3 года назад
@@DrWhoFanJ chillingly dead
@DrWhoFanJ
@DrWhoFanJ 3 года назад
@@TheFagerlund A proper deathly chill! 🤣
@martineldritch
@martineldritch 3 года назад
Like when Robert Falcon Scott at last attained the South Pole only to find Roald Amundson's tent, abandoned there month's earlier.
@riaranta3150
@riaranta3150 3 года назад
Over the past 6 months I’ve studied everything I could about Everest. Countless documentaries, a handful of books. It’s a truly amazingly beautiful and seductively deadly adventure.
@riaranta3150
@riaranta3150 3 года назад
@@automaticninjaassaultcat3703 I actually would love that!!!!
@C0N72
@C0N72 3 года назад
@@riaranta3150 can I come too?
@shitmandood
@shitmandood 3 года назад
You guys need to get up that mountain! If anything happens, I'll call your folks...
@overlord_1201
@overlord_1201 3 года назад
TheLastScampi yeaah boy!I live in nepal if you wanna climb contact me
@Egosumdeu
@Egosumdeu 3 года назад
Shit I’m down
@aprilrichards762
@aprilrichards762 3 года назад
Until January 2021, no one had summited the mountain K2 in the winter. A group of 10 Sherpas summited K2 this year.
@TheBlackAxe1
@TheBlackAxe1 3 года назад
Sherpas don't get enough credit for all they do to help expeditions happen.
@jamescooke7243
@jamescooke7243 3 года назад
So many have tried and failed. Apparently it's so cold in winter that entire teams make it to the base camp and turn around because they can't deal with that level of cold
@aprilrichards762
@aprilrichards762 3 года назад
@@TheBlackAxe1 I know. Edmund Hillory (I know I spelled it wrong but I can't remember the right spelling) would not have made it up Mt. Everest without Sherpa Norgay.
@aprilrichards762
@aprilrichards762 3 года назад
@@jamescooke7243 K2 is a crazy mountain to try to summit from what I've heard.
@jamescooke7243
@jamescooke7243 3 года назад
@@aprilrichards762 it is the hardest In the entire world. If you watch videos on the climb it's terrifying and beautiful at the same time. From camp 4 to the summit it's the most beautiful climb in the world in my opinion
@rayjingbul7363
@rayjingbul7363 3 года назад
As a climber, this has to be the least cringey video on climbing I've ever seen that was made by non-climbers. You do a good job with research and explaining the heart of things. Cheers mate
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 Год назад
Still a few mistakes in there
@chetanphoenix
@chetanphoenix 3 года назад
Idk if this is a common thought yet, but evidence suggests that Mallory and Irvine didn't climb via second step route. That's a modern route. They climbed through Norton couloir route which was already established by Norton. Odell's description points to them being on the THIRD step. If that's the case, they quite likely made it to the summit. But of course the record must go to the people who summited and returned back safely.
@veliborvasovic7833
@veliborvasovic7833 Год назад
Thats not true noel odel describe where they were seen this is misinformation your place in
@veliborvasovic7833
@veliborvasovic7833 Год назад
The third step didnt existed was not familiar in 1924 was not recognize Mallory saw that he will go ether the rockband or skyline
@alexwestconsulting
@alexwestconsulting 9 месяцев назад
@@veliborvasovic7833 You have no idea what you are talking about
@hullcityafc72
@hullcityafc72 8 месяцев назад
I used to believe that due to the Hilary Step being improbable to climb up for Mallory & Irvine without the ladder, that he didn't make it but Michael Tracey has changed alll that for me. Basically they didn't go that way, Mallory himself ruled it out from previous reconnaissance? Tracey has climbed there himself and his timings based on departure time & Odel's sighting, plus other arguments (the planned route with 2 options included), seem to suggest that they summited. They also used oxygen, the photo was missing, and they perished because they summited too late. A lot is said about the camera, but in Tracey's opinion the camera is irrelevant. These were no glorious amateurs, they were experts of the day. They had decided that if they got to within 200m they'd complete the climb no matter what. They took the risk and they knew the risks.
@alexwestconsulting
@alexwestconsulting 8 месяцев назад
@@hullcityafc72 yup. Tracey's commentary, revelation I would say, on the so-called "second step" statement from Odell (that never happened) put everything into perspective. Whenever someone repeats the "second step" narrative, I know they haven't actually done any research. Don't particularly care about the subject, just pushing content.
@MrLordbubasith
@MrLordbubasith 3 года назад
Being first always matters. That’s how the ikea furnitures get their random names, because they are usually named after the first person to go insane trying to construct a new design.
@Dick_Gozinya
@Dick_Gozinya 3 года назад
Like Ricky Bobby's dad said, "If you're not first, you're last." Although, to be fair, he was high when he said that.
@bigsmall246
@bigsmall246 3 года назад
Or it's just in swedish, because, you know, Ikea is a swedish company.
@alfredorotondo
@alfredorotondo 3 года назад
@@bigsmall246 r/woosh
@bigsmall246
@bigsmall246 3 года назад
@@alfredorotondo wow such sophistication. Many impressiveness.
@M4rcLL
@M4rcLL 3 года назад
We will never know who is the first person to watch this video. For anyone who thinks they are smarter than the entire population combined, I meant: the first people to watch it on RU-vid after it went public.
@hanselmansell7555
@hanselmansell7555 3 года назад
🤣😅🤣👍
@rushilkanani807
@rushilkanani807 3 года назад
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@johnkesich8696
@johnkesich8696 3 года назад
Probably a guy with an amazing mustache.
@parallaxlq1556
@parallaxlq1556 3 года назад
thoughty2 watched it first actually
@justanotherviewer1282
@justanotherviewer1282 3 года назад
His editor would see this first actually
@nateroseman
@nateroseman 3 года назад
Being an honest kiwi bloke we all grew up with the stories of Sir Ed and his triumphant climb to the top of the world. Heck, the powers at be even popped his mug shot on our $5 note. I had never heard of any other stories so when I read the title I was instantly curious. Well played chap. That was a great watch and I must say I will never forget the names Mallory and Irvine and their connection to Mt Everest.
@overredrover9430
@overredrover9430 3 года назад
I too have grown up with the image of Hillary as a national hero. I don't care if he or Tenzing was first, I'd rather believe that they made it together. I'm also at peace with the idea that Mallory and\or Irvine made it, I'd rather believe that Hillary and Tenzing were the first to be able to tell the story of the journey
@sleepwalker3520
@sleepwalker3520 3 года назад
yep, i was a bit gutted.. but it still stands even if he wasnt the first, he was the first to make it back alive, which in my mind is a successful climb. dying while doing it isnt very successful in my opinion.... either way, its not like us NZers to worry about sharing.... the steapest street in the world for instance.... its a case of cool, someone else had the same daft idea hahaha
@kiwid.single9431
@kiwid.single9431 3 года назад
China poaches NZ waters and conservation reserves, killing whales, fish stocks and environments, china steals from our GDP aswell through the fakeing and adulterating of NZ manuka honey and other products .china is responsible for alot of the methamphetamine that's coming into NZ as well so yeah please everyone boycott China and it's products as much as possible
@ahorsewithnoname643
@ahorsewithnoname643 3 года назад
I wonder if Alister MacLean had Mallory and Hillary in mind when he wrote 'The Guns of Navarone'. The main character is a NZ climber with the name of Mallory.
@jedvn3035
@jedvn3035 3 года назад
@@ahorsewithnoname643 guns of naverone was by Alister McLean wasn’t it?
@ronwilson9815
@ronwilson9815 Год назад
Regarding whether Mallory and/or Irvine might have reached the summit I would submit that Mallory's body having rope burns sustained in his fall indicates he was still roped to Irvine. If so then if he had reached the summit and died on the descent, then so did Irvine. I for one really want to believe they did make it, and have done since I first read about them almost 70 years ago.
@CosmicQuest-rh9et
@CosmicQuest-rh9et 4 месяца назад
Im no expert, but perhaps the rope burns could also be because of the "2 man climbing tecnique" used in the second step
@Mark-mm1ke
@Mark-mm1ke 2 года назад
Reminds me of the great quote: "Getting to the top is optional. Getting down alive is not". Who got to the top first? You get to decide. Who got there and got down alive first? No debate.
@veliborvasovic7833
@veliborvasovic7833 Год назад
Thats not true if someday the tru show that Mallory reched the top its over with Hilary and tensing
@Mark-mm1ke
@Mark-mm1ke Год назад
@@veliborvasovic7833 If? Your dreaming. Fact is H&N got up and back. All else about M&I is pure speculation that will not and cannot ever be confirmed or denied. I have my own opinion. I believe they made it.
@javierortiz82
@javierortiz82 Год назад
That premise is very disrespectful of the effort that people who died up there made. "oh, he didn't come back alive so it didn't count". Like, dude, that person was for a couple of minutes at the very tip of the world, does it not matter to you?
@Mark-mm1ke
@Mark-mm1ke Год назад
@@javierortiz82 That's just stupid and wrong. It's your own bias. It's a well know statement in the climbing community. stfu on things you know not about.
@EmilyCheetham
@EmilyCheetham 5 месяцев назад
I like to think Mallory & Irvine were the first to the top, but the 1953 expedition were the first to return after reaching the top. Would still make the 53 expedition a first as they lived to tell the tale.
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq 3 года назад
Another hint that they made it up was that they dumped empty oxygen tanks on the way up, but they had spares. But Mallory was found with his oxygen pack empty. Meaning they would have used the spares, which by calculations would have meant they made it to the top, and had to dump them on the way back down.
@alexborne838
@alexborne838 3 года назад
His oxygen pack could have emptied over the years. This happened almost a century ago. The only way to truly know if they summited, is to find Irvine and his camera, which even if they do it, the film would probably be ruined.
@ihcman9130
@ihcman9130 3 года назад
I've read a lot on this subject and I'm quite certain they never did find either mallory or irvines oxygen pack. The 1999 expedition did recover a oxygen cylinder that was used by mallory or irivine high up on the NE ridge. Nothing has been found above the second step which is disappointing because if they could find a bottle they'd know that they made it at least above the second step. I often wonder if they stayed below the NE ridge and climbed the Norton Couloir. It would be great if someone would find evidence that they climbed either route. It would be even greater if the camera was found and it held proof they made the summit.
@NicolaiAwesome
@NicolaiAwesome 3 года назад
No, you’re wrong. He was NOT found with “his oxygen pack” and all it takes to know this is watch the clip from the expedition that found his body in 1999.
@megaman9056
@megaman9056 3 года назад
@@ihcman9130 i wonder if its because everyone's looking in the wrong place. they never had any intentions on climbing the steps, instead their route was to go around it and up the Norton couloir. i read something which contained a possible location of irvine. there was a picture that seemed to show his body somewhere in the yellow band,.
@josm1481
@josm1481 2 года назад
@@ihcman9130 Mallory himself said the 2nd step was impossible.Mallory also wrote he had found a sure fire route that he was certain would take them to the top. Everything, including the two attempts before, was build up to the final climb. Mallory was an oxygen skeptic till he saw the total novice Bruce climb so quickly. He immediately dropped his prejudices and realised oxygen was the way. As noted, Norton produced an altitude record 4 days before M&I left for the summit taking the couloir route, now named after him. It's hard to argue Mallory would take the ridge AFTER claiming it was impossible and AFTER Norton had gone before and been so successful. Norton even claimed the route wasn't that hard. They just went without oxygen.
@lillysummer3546
@lillysummer3546 3 года назад
Michael Tracy explains it very well in his videos on why George Mallory was the first person to climb. He answers each question with details and I have never read or watched anyone explain and solve this so brilliantly. Watching his videos and reading his comments was just amazing. I feel everyone who is trying to figure this out should watch his videos. He has done lots of hard work. It may not be the camera of Irvine but maybe the rocks from the summit that we needed to check when handling the body. Because Odell was a dear friend and Mallory would definitely try bringing those summit rocks for him. The people who found his body did not check for summit rocks it seems. There are many other clues than Irvine’s camera. Mallory has overcome more difficulties that this and he definitely climbed Mount Everest with a different route that was known to him. He had figured out about the second step because he had seen it the last time he was close to it.
@raspberry2981
@raspberry2981 3 года назад
imagine failing to climb Everest and then being used as a pin point on the map to know where someone is *Look William, we made it to Mr. Long Gloves!*
@jflanagan9696
@jflanagan9696 2 года назад
That's how it works now. Green boots is a popular place to stop and rest because of the guy frozen in his sleep wearing green boots. Body retrieval is almost impossible at that height, so they leave them.
@oliviervansuchtelen9928
@oliviervansuchtelen9928 2 года назад
@@jflanagan9696 this may sound stupid but can’t they just drag him of? Like actually grab them by their feet and drag them on the ground. This wouldn’t be very respectful to the corpse but I feel like it would be possible
@xEvilRaptorx
@xEvilRaptorx 2 года назад
@@oliviervansuchtelen9928 i mean, you can throw something off the roof, it'll get down. Isn't very nice or safe
@prinsesbibitje
@prinsesbibitje 2 года назад
Now we just have to press on towards Kinky Boots.
@dannydevito5729
@dannydevito5729 2 года назад
@@jflanagan9696 green boots isn't there anymore, according to people who have summited since 2016
@zarinaromanets7290
@zarinaromanets7290 3 года назад
You, Simon W., and Wendover Productions are the patron saints of those stuck in traffic, folding laundry, walking with ear buds, and waiting for their hair color to set. May you and yours live long and prosper and continue to give us more videos!
@SensaiGaia1
@SensaiGaia1 2 года назад
My dad when he was younger has climbed a bit of Mount Everest with his dad who is a very experienced climber and caver who founded LYON Equipment. He told me it was one the best and worst experiences of his life. Worst being when it was cold, you really felt it. And best being it was surreal where he was and the view was amazing 😊
@sarlaccstapeworm990
@sarlaccstapeworm990 3 года назад
"What Bear Grylls would come up with, if you asked him to design a business suit"!!🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍
@charlesshreeve319
@charlesshreeve319 3 года назад
I'd like to see the top of Mount Everest. When might they be putting in an elevator?
@TheBlackAxe1
@TheBlackAxe1 3 года назад
Each trip up would cost that of an expedition.
@SLA-yo4is
@SLA-yo4is 3 года назад
We will go to mars before that for good
@milk3641
@milk3641 2 года назад
@@SLA-yo4is lmao what
@frankobarressi7919
@frankobarressi7919 2 года назад
They’ve already done it. You go in a big cylinder thing with wings then look out the windows when you get up in the air.
@EmilyCheetham
@EmilyCheetham 5 месяцев назад
Even if it was theoretically possible to built an elevator that tall it would never happen because rising to that high in a short length of time without acclimatising would kill someone. In airplanes they have to pressurise the cabins so that people don’t die going from the oxygen levels at ground level to 10’s of thousands of feet in just minutes. When climbing Everest there are multiple camps people need to stop at. Not just to rest but quite literally to acclimate to the the levels of oxygen. So no. There never will be a quick transport to the top because it would kill people.
@baseplate_462
@baseplate_462 3 года назад
anyone realize thoughty2 is just a vsauce that doesn't procrastinate and gets straight to the point. Or is he? *music intensifies
@Laffy-ix5xy
@Laffy-ix5xy 3 года назад
That's weird. I just described Thoughty2 to my husband as similar to Vsauce. Then I saw your comment two minutes later. But you were the first to say it 😁
@Musikur
@Musikur 3 года назад
Somewhere between vsause, Simon Whistler and Tom Scott
@baseplate_462
@baseplate_462 3 года назад
@@Laffy-ix5xy Plot twist: Your husband doesn't know vsauce is a YT channel and thinks you just described another man as some sort of perverted liquid.
@Staplegun
@Staplegun 3 года назад
Haha
@TheLundExpress
@TheLundExpress 3 года назад
I cannot tolerate VSauce, it's not just that he's soylent it's also how youtube keeps trying to force me to watch THE EXACT SAME VIDEO ON TIME OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
@petermac774
@petermac774 3 года назад
Not first, but my brother-in-law summited solo in '88. He did the final ascent so quickly, he spent over two hours on the summit. Long enough to take a leak and smoke a cigarette. He has also, since then, done unassisted walks to both the North and South Poles and an unassisted traverse of Australia.
@tallyhorizzla3330
@tallyhorizzla3330 3 года назад
One extreme to another.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 года назад
Really? Take a leak and smoke a cigarette nearly 30,000 feet above sea level? So how is it his piss didn't instantly freeze (along with his pecker) as it came out, and how could a cigarette draw enough enough oxygen to stay lit?
@chamonix4658
@chamonix4658 3 года назад
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc you can piss on everest, do you think climbers just wet themselves?
@neilcarpenter2669
@neilcarpenter2669 3 года назад
This story has always fascinated me I remember my father telling me about Mallory when I was a boy , for what it is worth I have always believed he made it to the summit and died on the way back down , men that knew him are convinced that there is no way he wouldn't have made it after getting so close. Personally I believe that the fact that he didn't have the photo of his wife on his body is significant if you know the type of character he was I don't believe he would have lost it . I want to believe that Mallory and Irvine made it but I actually do believe it's true not just want it to be.
@EmilyCheetham
@EmilyCheetham 5 месяцев назад
I believe Mallory & Irvine made it in 1924 being the first to reach the summit. But I think the 1053 expedition also have a first as being the first to summit AND make it back alive to tell the tale.
@patmygroin
@patmygroin 3 года назад
Finally a story I knew every detail on. My son and I studied this about 12 years ago.much love ❤️
@mattpeoples3753
@mattpeoples3753 3 года назад
This may be a dumb question, but how sure are we that natives from the Nepal region had never done it centuries ago? Is it just impossible without compressed oxygen (it isn't, some people have done it), or impossible with low tech gear? Or are most corpses found up there identified as being recent and not really old, and could age of corpses even be identified based on the conditions? Would centuries-old corpses even be discoverable or would they be buried?
@KDSima
@KDSima 3 года назад
Did Mallory make it to the top has always one of my most favorite questions.
@giusepperana6354
@giusepperana6354 3 года назад
been
@juniorballs6025
@juniorballs6025 3 года назад
Sunglasses well and truly tucked away in his clothing. Was dark when returning. Last seen 2pm, well before nightfall. Also did not have the picture of his wife onhim which he intended to leave at the summit. So fascinating. Edit: Watch the sodding video first.
@DneilB007
@DneilB007 3 года назад
@@juniorballs6025 Another explanation for the missing photo is that he could have died first, and Irvine took the photo with him to try and fulfill Mallory’s final wish.
@Gwizz1337
@Gwizz1337 3 года назад
They found the body from what I know, and it was found in a location where he either just fell short of his goal, or died immediately on the decent shortly after summiting.
@KDSima
@KDSima 3 года назад
@@giusepperana6354 Thanks for the “been”. I am not great at proofing. I am overly self critical and if I read something I write I usually end up deleting instead of posting it. I know it is messed up. Thank you, u were polite. Have a great day.
@owenmorris8947
@owenmorris8947 3 года назад
They have a really good book based around George Mallory, it's called Paths of Glory by Jeffrey Archer
@roryslaine7896
@roryslaine7896 3 года назад
One of the 114 books he wrote whilst in prison...
@spineshivers
@spineshivers 3 года назад
Kane and Abel is another great one.
@anothermouth7077
@anothermouth7077 3 года назад
That sherpa was the real mvp in Mr Mallory quest
@stevenb427
@stevenb427 3 года назад
Jeffery Archer Tory sleaze. He wrote that book from a prison cell. Total scumbag!
@obscureogre4547
@obscureogre4547 3 года назад
@@stevenb427 never knew, and I love his books! ☹️
@drewpamon
@drewpamon 3 года назад
Honestly even if he was first there's a major asterisk that would need to be in the record book. Getting back down alive is just as important.
@ThatSB
@ThatSB 3 года назад
Not really. Climbing it first is the achievement. Only salty second potential second climbers think otherwise
@archiem591
@archiem591 3 года назад
Yeah this is what hillary said when asked about if he thought mallory made it to the top. Which to me is really rude in my eyes making it to the top is the achievement and if he did make it and died on the way back that's more impressive.
@TDMFAN
@TDMFAN 3 года назад
@@archiem591 no it's not lol. Reaching the peak of a mountain is only getting halfway through a climb.
@soultraveller5027
@soultraveller5027 2 года назад
Bollocks
@laurieannrogan1317
@laurieannrogan1317 2 года назад
@@TDMFAN REACHING THE TOP FIRST IS THE GREAT ACHIEVEMENT.
@mhmt1453
@mhmt1453 3 года назад
I believe George Mallory did it. His last attempt was his third, I believe, and despite the rest of expedition ceding failure, Mallory could not be swayed. Irvine was the only one who agreed to join him. Mallory would reach the summit come hell or high water... or even unto his own death. As well, he felt the pressures of having to succeed, and knew if he did not, there would be no other chance. George Mallory was driven. Perhaps he was reckless in doing so, but his mountaineering expertise was such that he knew that he could do it. From Odell’s account the mountain was clear when he was within 1500 feet of the summit, and though conditions often can deteriorate rapidly on Everest, Mallory would have been quite familiar with these challenges, and dealt with them accordingly, for so much was at stake personally. The weak link in the chain of events that ultimately cost both climbers their lives was Irvine’s experience level. However, I don’t believe even this would deter George Mallory. If Irvine could go no further, I sincerely believe Mallory would’ve gone on without him. Could one have slipped while tethered to the other? Of course. There is a 50/50 chance that their accident occurred on the way up as well as down.. but the most telling clue is the missing picture of his wife. Mallory carried it on his person during the entire length of the expedition. He promised her he would place her picture at the summit. I believe he did.
@user-iu5dp1ex8h
@user-iu5dp1ex8h 10 месяцев назад
Точно.эти парни были до конца вместе
@riffdagg6701
@riffdagg6701 3 года назад
Shamans probably went up there a thousand years ago for their Vision quests.
@jacksonbryan_3252
@jacksonbryan_3252 3 года назад
I’m sure there were many , before white people
@filipris7064
@filipris7064 3 года назад
@@jacksonbryan_3252 u are sure ?
@Satanthony
@Satanthony 3 года назад
@@jacksonbryan_3252 yeah maaaaaaaan
@cloneoffunkenstein
@cloneoffunkenstein 3 года назад
Many people in the region belief the peak of the mountains are a home to the spirits / gods and you shouldn't climb up there .
@drabolit
@drabolit 3 года назад
Kind of a pompous statement - they probably went up there and died cuz they didn’t have the right equipment
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff 3 года назад
Well, that settles it. I'm just going to have to go up there myself and look for Irvine. Be right back...
@danijelujcic8644
@danijelujcic8644 3 года назад
Take a few analog Leicas, Polaroids and a GoPro just in case.
@zarinaromanets7290
@zarinaromanets7290 3 года назад
Narrator: he wasn't.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 года назад
If you find him, we'll release a dozen hounds in your honour.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 Год назад
Take your time.
@A1441
@A1441 3 года назад
You are an extraordinarily engaging storyteller, THOUGHTY2! I forgot my toothache while I was engrossed watching this video. Amazing!
@JoeRyMi
@JoeRyMi 3 года назад
From witness accounts and where George’s body lies, it sounds like Mallory and Irvine came just short but what they did was way more incredible than modern climbers with modern equipment that have summited multiple times. So much respect for what they did. God, I hope Irvine’s camera is one day found and film can be retrieved.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 3 года назад
People who never mountain climbed have summit everest. For $50,000 a outfitter company has pre fixed line rounts and sherpas to carry your stuff.
@weasel9062
@weasel9062 3 года назад
Most coats back then were made of layered wool. As it was stated, effective and warm the biggest problem with it and why you don't see it being used today for much longer-term outdoor activity is simply it doesn't do well when wet. If kept dry, it's perfectly fine, but when wet it not only becomes very cold, but heavy.
@Ninnybroth
@Ninnybroth 8 месяцев назад
Actually wool is one of the only materials that will still insulate and keep you warm even when it's wet. That's why wool socks and wool hats are essential items for emergency (everyday, low-altitude) hiking packs.
@EmilyCheetham
@EmilyCheetham 5 месяцев назад
@@Ninnybrothargument aside it’s not really very wet up Everest anyway. So even if there were problems as weight when the coats got wet they wouldn’t be wet climbing Everest as it doesn’t really rain but snow up there. It’s sooo cold that any moisture instantly freezes. So the point on getting wet is moot.
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM 3 года назад
Fun Fact : people in and around London, will pronounce "Thoughty 2" as "Forty 2"
@Youtubeaccount01234
@Youtubeaccount01234 3 года назад
Dude everyone calls him 42. He even said it is a play on words for the number 42 from one of his favorite movies.
@TheSpartanGamer584
@TheSpartanGamer584 3 года назад
Ha true I'm in Britain just said it lol
@tonymartinez8878
@tonymartinez8878 3 года назад
@The Ghey Mantis now I feel like watching how I met your mother
@simonholyoak8869
@simonholyoak8869 3 года назад
People in London wouldn’t pronounce the T
@Solocat1
@Solocat1 3 года назад
The number 42 is especially significant to fans of science fiction novelist Douglas Adams' “The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy,” because that number is the answer given by a supercomputer to “the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.”Sep. 10, 2019
@rgvt5638
@rgvt5638 3 года назад
Whoa, been on a huge Everest video kick, and here’s Thoughty2 with this!
@tonyh9970
@tonyh9970 3 года назад
What should sadden everyone who's ever reached the summit is that everyone after them climbs higher. Everest grows a centimeter or more every year. It's not much but it counts.
@user-tk5fi1my5i
@user-tk5fi1my5i 3 года назад
But is natural erosion taking away some of that centimeter, or all of it and more? Just a thought.
@chrisbraid2907
@chrisbraid2907 3 года назад
What rubbish, the fall at the top of the world several years ago means it’s not as high.
@user-tk5fi1my5i
@user-tk5fi1my5i 3 года назад
@@chrisbraid2907 Are you saying there was some rock fall from the top of Everest, or what do you mean,"the fall at the top of the world"?
@tonyh9970
@tonyh9970 3 года назад
@@chrisbraid2907 sorry to offend. It was just an observational comment. It doesn't change plate tectonics though. Did the the peak fall off or something? Must've missed that in the news.
@tonyh9970
@tonyh9970 3 года назад
@@user-tk5fi1my5i erosion can't take away all. It's too cold for rain so wind would be the main culprit there and I would imagine that it's minimal since it's pretty constant. I've just always thought it was interesting that the most mountain ranges are continually rising. The Appalachians were formed when pangea was formed about 500 million years ago. It's taken that long for erosion to bring em down to where they are now and they only made it as high as the Alps.
@xxamle
@xxamle 2 года назад
Mallory had another mission, and that was to collect rock samples from the mountain's top, unfortunately this detail was not taken into account when his body was found and his artifacts retrieved in 1999....
@JLWestaz
@JLWestaz Год назад
That wasn't "another mission". It was the mission. That was the reason given to Tibet to get access to the mountain. Of course, the British Alpine Club was desperate to be the first to climb Everest. Britain had lost the race to the poles so they were determined to conquer Everest, to the point of sabotaging anyone else attempt. Mallory could care less about the rocks at the top, he just wanted to stand on them. But they were suppose to collect rock chips at the summit. The 1999 expedition goal wasn't to find Mallory or Irving but to find the camera. When they found Mallory it was a shock and they weren't sure what to do. There was no camera. It's unsure if a through search of Mallory pockets were made for the rock chips or if they determined his fall line and searched the fall line. They state climbers had been all over that area. Yea, but did they search the area?. Well no, is the answer. When your climbing at that altitude you not taking a step and then scanning side to side 10 feet. You looking down at your feet, trying to breath maybe looking up now and again. Most of time you could climb right by a F-150 pickup double parked and not know it. The Camera: - It has been questioned if Mallory actually had a camera. There pretty certain Irving did, but Mallory. The story goes that Mallory and Irving were leaving Camp 6 for the summit try when Mallory stated he didn't have a camera. At which point Howard Somervell gave him his camera. The problem with this story is; there is a known picture of Everest taken with that camera. So did Somervell change out the roll of film and then give it to Mallory? You can't do all of that with gloves on. So Somervell took off his gloves and changed the roll of film in his camera and then gave it to Mallory. Or this never happened. To solve the mystery. Ask the Chinese where they put Irving and what artifacts they recovered. Which is the same as eating the yellow snow on Everest. Everest was only 1,000M high when the Chinese were in the same room with the truth. Return to Mallory and do a scientific examination. Determine and search Mallory's fall line. Search the fall line. I don't know if anything of value can or would be found on the search line but it a case of doing thing properly and completely. Find Irving and do a scientific examination. Would this solve the mystery? I don't know. Might be a waste of time, just like climbing Everest.
@zxien1
@zxien1 3 года назад
One thing people seem to get wrong with this is that the Third step does only take a few minutes which would line up with odell's report. Why everyone assumes it's the second step makes little sense especially when silhouettes can be easily seen against the third step. I believe Odell saw them at the third step, in which case they almost certainly summited that day.
@alexwestconsulting
@alexwestconsulting 9 месяцев назад
You are responding to a content creator who has no idea what he is talking about, spent 5 minutes on research.
@MichiKNY
@MichiKNY 3 года назад
Everyone gangsta till the cameraman reaches the top first.
@klintklint8354
@klintklint8354 3 года назад
Love this guy, 1st thing after work everyday, it has become my routine 😁
@Robski18
@Robski18 3 года назад
And before bed too. It makes me sleep well 😅
@klintklint8354
@klintklint8354 3 года назад
@@Robski18 playlist on in background, sound asleep in 10min 😅
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 3 года назад
Honestly regardless of who climbed Mount Everest first, it's the journey of getting to the top and back down alive that makes it a huge achievement.
@JayAR_YT
@JayAR_YT 3 года назад
I wanna jump off with a wing suit
@silenceliberal7947
@silenceliberal7947 3 года назад
Now that I think of it... what Neil Armstrong did won't ever be forgotten. It's the first stepping stone for human space exploration. His achievement is truly legendary.
@verhvouvim1518
@verhvouvim1518 3 года назад
same goes for Gagarin and Sputnik-1
@Cleon851
@Cleon851 Год назад
@@verhvouvim1518 no one cares about Russians
@DreamBelief
@DreamBelief 3 месяца назад
why him specifically? He wasn't there alone
@TheMusicDrumsLife
@TheMusicDrumsLife 3 года назад
As a Kiwi growing up idolising Sir Edmund Hilary, I hope the mountain keeps it's secrets 🇳🇿
@Gazmus
@Gazmus 3 года назад
As a Briton who grew up thinking he was British I agree, like he said, there's no success in climbing it if you die in the process, I'd rather him and Mr Tensing keep the plaudits.
@obiwanshinobi87
@obiwanshinobi87 3 года назад
Reporter: Why do you want to climb Everest Mallory: Because it's there Me: Yeah.. so what of it
@InsanePorcupine
@InsanePorcupine 3 года назад
Yeah what if we applied the same logic to jumping off bridges. "why did he jump off the bridge to his inevitable doom?", "well, apparently they said something about it being there and just jumped".
@ratha8799
@ratha8799 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b_rvs13QkOg.html
@ratha8799
@ratha8799 3 года назад
I think you'll enjoy that dude^
@ratha8799
@ratha8799 3 года назад
@@InsanePorcupine you too
@EmilyCheetham
@EmilyCheetham 5 месяцев назад
Lol ye it’s kind of like saying “why did you jump from the cliff without a parachute” “ because (insert name) did” personally that’s not a valid reason to risk you life. 😆
@Übercharge-Crab
@Übercharge-Crab 3 года назад
Next up on thoughty2: "Meet the man whose been jinxed for 20+ years"
@leoneongacha8787
@leoneongacha8787 3 года назад
He's hopefully gonna say his name and break the jinx
@Cobblestone8_alt_account
@Cobblestone8_alt_account 3 года назад
Yeah that's how this channel works something cool and intellectual and then top 10 anime deaths of the last year
@spinningspin6053
@spinningspin6053 3 года назад
"Meet the man who tamed Cornpop with his big chain"
@leoneongacha8787
@leoneongacha8787 3 года назад
@@spinningspin6053 Perfect
@kyallogideon8625
@kyallogideon8625 3 года назад
Thoughty2: Can you climb Mt. Everest? Me: I climb my bed every night🤣I can dream it...
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 года назад
Because it's there.
@zeideerskine3462
@zeideerskine3462 3 года назад
Sherpa have been climbing the Mother Mountain for ages be it on dares or spiritual quests. Edmund Hilary hired Tensing Norgay as his guide because Tensing Norgay had done it before. That is why he was a guide to begin with.
@ShamanJeeves
@ShamanJeeves 3 года назад
I have long been fascinated by this mystery. I'm a hopeless romantic, and I'd like to believe they made it.
@kjs8719
@kjs8719 3 года назад
Actually, it's entirely possible that Bolt's record will never get beaten. The impact force of his feet hitting the ground is only just below the point that bones break, so if someone runs faster than him, they are unlikely to reach the finish line
@quito787
@quito787 3 года назад
I wouldn't be surprised if some local/sherpa made it to the top long before any of these men even attempted the summit.
@hughgrection4205
@hughgrection4205 3 года назад
Not a chance
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 Год назад
Three problems (at least.) it takes an expedition just to get to the mountain. It takes technical equipment to climb, that the locals didn’t have. And finally, before westerners showed up, Sherpas didn’t climb mountains. They just didn’t. They considers it stupid and pointless.
@cheekychicka
@cheekychicka 3 года назад
There are some facts we can confirm and that includes Odell’s sighting of Irvine and Mallory being close to the summit and climbing strong. We also know that a horrible storm hit the mountain around the same time. Mallory wanted Irvine as a partnered because he knew the key to success was their oxygen supply and Irvine being an engineer reconfigured their systems for better reliability. When Mallory’s body was finally found his snow goggles were in his pocket and the picture of his wife that he planned to leave on the summit was not on his person. I think that on their way down they ran in to trouble, bad weather and shrinking visibility. Based in his injuries it’s believed that Mallory may have gone in to a slide, cut himself away from Irvine and subsequently died from the fall. Irvine was not a mountaineer but I believe he would have looked for shelter as it was late, it was dark and he had been witnessed to his climbing partners death. I think he dug himself in somewhere with hopes of surviving the night and died and that’s why Irvine’s body has never been found. I would like to think they submitted but proof of that remains with Irvine who probably has the camera.
@eemelilounela1212
@eemelilounela1212 3 года назад
Maybe they summitted but I kind of think that for a mountain to be counted as conquered you also should get back down safely.
@cheekychicka
@cheekychicka 3 года назад
@@eemelilounela1212 ~ you make a great point! People shouldn’t be able to claim the summit if they don’t make it back down. How does that saying go…. Climbing up Everest is optional, coming back down is mandatory. 5ank you for those great words!
@jrnymn14
@jrnymn14 3 года назад
i agree, i personally believe they made it up, but success would lay in getting back down. Dying is not success
@revmo37
@revmo37 3 года назад
You make an excellent point Cheeky. If you read my comment, I kinda was pretty close to your theory. Except, when I watched the whole video of Mallory's body being found, the rope certainly appeared stress broken to me as opposed to knife cut. Pointing to one or the other attempting to belay the other. But you could certainly be right. It's kinda speculation at this point. Cheers
@cheekychicka
@cheekychicka 3 года назад
@@revmo37 ~ hmm, another great point. Conrad Ankler was the person who discovered Mallory’s body, and I hope I have his name correct, but I will have to watch again to see if they had an opinion on the rope. This mystery will live on for years. I don’t know if we will ever know what truly happened. You are making me think! Thank you!
@jimparr01Utube
@jimparr01Utube 3 года назад
Intriguing commentary. Sir Ed Hillary vastly surpassed his conquest of Everest by a life of outstanding service to humanity - in particular those in Tibet and neighboring regions.
@D0ugh.B0y
@D0ugh.B0y 3 года назад
Bro, the sherpas had been summitting Everest well before any westerner ever did.
@shortbusbully
@shortbusbully 3 года назад
You've outdone yourself. This was a beautifully written telling of this amazing story, thank you.
@Kris_Toffer
@Kris_Toffer 3 года назад
He also very easily could have been lying there, dying, thought "I'll have a look at my wife", pulled out the picture, and the wind took at some point in the, what 75-ish years?
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 года назад
There's also that notepad they found on his body. Since he'd apparently been writing entries on it as he went up the mountain but didn't write anything about reaching the summit, that leaves two possibilities. Either he fell to his death before getting to the top, or the sun was already down when he got to the top and thus too dark too see to write.
@secretagent86
@secretagent86 3 года назад
there is also the argument that to summit a mountain requires a safe descent.
@nooooplease7060
@nooooplease7060 3 года назад
RedXlV his fingers would have been too cold to write anything most likely
@leewitte4580
@leewitte4580 2 года назад
Good point, Wait What! The wind could easily blown the photo air of his hand!! I had never thought of that!
@chazbarns1410
@chazbarns1410 2 года назад
There is actually no argument there, if you get to the top you have done a completed a summit. Its just better if you can talk about it afterwards. ,
@LukeNasti
@LukeNasti 3 года назад
This guy is my dad, telling me stories to make me grow up informed and intelligent But younger than me. Still I want him to call me champ.
@endlescape2014
@endlescape2014 3 года назад
Nepali sherpas and gurghas,, have been climbing Everest for centuries.. Even... The first British surveyor climbers also took.. Local nepalis who were climbing these mountains way before Britishers landed in Indian Subcontinent
@Jenult
@Jenult 3 года назад
No idea how I found this channel, but its been over a year now and I still love it. Thanks Thoughty2!
@glensmall9194
@glensmall9194 3 года назад
Into The Silence by Wade Davis is perhaps the definitive book about Mallory's 3 attempts to climb Everest. It's exhaustively researched over 10 years and the writing is wonderful. Jochen Hemlebb's Ghosts of Everest covers the discovery of Mallory's body in great detail with many, good photos and great forensic work on the Tibetan side of Everest.
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 3 года назад
Sorry chaps, even if that very brave man made it to the summit first, getting back down alive has to count for something.
@christineparis5607
@christineparis5607 3 года назад
Ed Viesters, who climbed Everest ten times, several times WITHOUT supplementary oxygen, always had a rule, getting to the top is only half the job, getting down is mandatory! He was famous for knowing when to stop. If it was too dangerous, he refused to try against the odds. He knew survival was the most important factor....
@check1526
@check1526 3 года назад
It doesn't count for who summited Everest first though...which is the whole point.
@jeffwang6460
@jeffwang6460 3 года назад
Laika the dog is remembered as the first living being from Earth in space, even if she didn't make it back alive.
@christineparis5607
@christineparis5607 3 года назад
@@jeffwang6460 It's weird, but you definitely make a good point. Most, not all, but most, people consider survival secondary to "winning", being first, etc. I wonder if that is a universal concept, or just among certain societies. From the videos I've seen on the space race, the Russian space program felt their astronauts were expendable, a little too expendable, in my opinion...those photos where they just airbrushed out all the ones that didn't achieve their objectives is pretty chilling...
@Mixantropaz
@Mixantropaz 3 года назад
If it was the moon instead of Mount everest. You would still pay more attention to the one who stood on the moon first, even if his rocket exploded on the way back. But being the first to make it back alive is an gigantic achievement in and of itself
@leoneongacha8787
@leoneongacha8787 3 года назад
14 seconds and 16 views. Never miss a thoughty2 video
@FN-ef4wb
@FN-ef4wb 3 года назад
Wing Commander Jothi M Fenn photographed the Everest from all sides in a Spitfire aircraft of the Indian Air Force on 15th March 1953. He advised that the plan to send an aircraft to take photographs of Tenzing and Hillary when they climb not be allowed as it would endanger them fir he saw avalanches created as he flew near the mountain. He is recorded as the first to take photographs of the Everest from an aircraft.
@eagerestcrab2030
@eagerestcrab2030 3 года назад
Something that’s filled my thoughts since I was a child.... I hope that in my lifetime he’s found
@emilywashere03
@emilywashere03 3 года назад
6:58 It’s official, I need Thoughty2 to be my new weatherman
@amsbeats841
@amsbeats841 3 года назад
Fun fact Mallory is actually my great uncle! One of the great mysteries of Mountaineering.. unless we can go up on Everest with a metal detector we'll probably never know!
@smelly_elvis
@smelly_elvis 2 года назад
It has been done... with no joy.
@JLWestaz
@JLWestaz Год назад
I think the 1999 team had a medal detector but it was one of the climbers out of his assigned search grid, eating lunch, who glanced at what looked strange. After lunch he went over and discovered Mallory. I believe they need new technologies to search Everest. Like a tethered gondola that can float just above the surface of the mountain. Under the gondola is an array of sensors.
@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou
@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 3 года назад
I hope we find the film one day because if they made it they deserve the recognition.
@bernardliu8526
@bernardliu8526 3 года назад
What will that worth a bean to 2 dead resins ?
@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou
@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 3 года назад
@@bernardliu8526 what?.... If they did actually make it to the top and photographed it then they died knowing they accomplished their goal. If they did accomplish said goals then they absolutely deserve the recognition and their family deserves to have that recognition. Those are all just what ifs and yeah they may be dead but it would still be nice for the living if we did find that camera to see if they actually made it or not. Why would you not want them to get the recognition they deserve IF they did make it to the top regardless of their current living status.
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 года назад
What are the odds that if the film is found and successfully developed, they'll see a picture of the two of them, being photobombed by a yeti.
@bernardliu8526
@bernardliu8526 3 года назад
@@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou My point was obvious - dead people cannot experience a scintilla of joy, nor sorrow. I will, however, grant you that their families, if the found and developed photographs can prove their ascendancy to the summit of Mt. Everest (a fantastic name!), will feel much vicarious pride.
@petterbossum4716
@petterbossum4716 2 года назад
The wife-picture has an obvious explanation. He had a moment of "oh shit, we are going to die", and took out the image.
@Dodgers-sw2uk
@Dodgers-sw2uk 2 года назад
Odell didn’t see them climbing the second step, it was the third step. The route they took bypassed the second step
@juanmanuel3418
@juanmanuel3418 3 года назад
In alpinism, "climbing" generally means reaching the summit AND COMING BACK ALIVE. Thus Norgay and Hillary did it first
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 3 года назад
Agreed...there’s basically no way (at the moment) to know if Mallory and Irvine made it. Even if they do find Irvine’s camera, his film is intact and it shows them at the summit...they didn’t come home. It is what it is. Hillary and Norgay were the first.
@seanlane1051
@seanlane1051 3 года назад
In reality, its very likely that some of the sherpas who live in the region had climbed Everest, before any westerners even attempted it. The sherpas ate known to climb up with western climbers and not use oxygen.
@Basketball2k864
@Basketball2k864 3 года назад
Still if they made the peak, they would be the first to make it up there. Norgay and Hillary would be the first to return. Both amazing feats.
@juanmanuel3418
@juanmanuel3418 3 года назад
@@seanlane1051 Extremely unlikely. You need special equipment like oxygen tanks, special clothing, crampons and ice axes, most of which were not common with Nepalese or Tibetans
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 3 года назад
@@seanlane1051 That’s actually true. Legendary mountaineering locals...of course some of those guys took a hack at it. It doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t...
@TehSnipedown
@TehSnipedown 3 года назад
You’re the best, 42. For real. Incredible amount of research and time put into your videos. Also, you crack some quality jokes 😂
@WeTryMotorsports
@WeTryMotorsports 3 года назад
There's a very interesting video out there describing the greatest disservice of dissolving the secret on Mallory's body. RU-vidr Michael Tracey describes this as one of the biggest flops ever. Basically, if Mallory made it to the top, he would have put pebbles or "artifacts" (rocks) in his pocket for a religious geologist. Mallory was instructed to gather these from the summit and bring them back from his expedition. If the party searched him more thoroughly OR understood what to look for, it's possible they missed this crucial clue. Not to say he didn't summit even if he didn't have them on him, but if he did, that pretty much guarantees he did, in fact, summit. There was no mention of this in the 1999 north face expedition, nor in any documentation of the Mallory discovery. Everyone was so focused on the camera that they forgot a simple but very crucial clue of their summit attempt. Absolutely fascinating stuff. If they happen to find Irvine (untouched that is) hopefully they check for the pebbles as well as the camera. Even if they happen to find the camera, there's no guarantee he went to the top WITH Mallory. I'm afraid this is one mystery that may never be solved.
@toomanyopinions8353
@toomanyopinions8353 Год назад
I'd like to know, why can't people go back and look? They left the body there, didn't they? Or were they careless and threw things out of the pockets as they searched?
@joshiek7839
@joshiek7839 Год назад
@@toomanyopinions8353 they fumed it but never released the film. Someone who was there admitted that evertine they rewatch the tape it makes them cringe. It was a botched search as they were only interested in one thing - the camera
@JLWestaz
@JLWestaz Год назад
@@toomanyopinions8353 It's not a for sure that Mallory even had a camera.
@StephanieElizabethMann
@StephanieElizabethMann 3 года назад
I met Sir Edmund Hillary in Sydney Australia many years ago when I was a member of the saint George rock climbing club. He said the both summited at the same time together.
@nickvanhouwelingen
@nickvanhouwelingen 3 года назад
Edmund Hillary's autobiography 'nothing venture, nothing gains is a good read 📚👌
@backpackingtony1779
@backpackingtony1779 3 года назад
I was thinking NASA developed a helicopter that flew on Mars. Mars’ atmosphere is very thin. It could be thinner than the top of Everest. Theoretically it may be possible to engineer a helicopter that could fly around and search for Andrew Irving’s body. Maybe not now but in the next few years it could be possible.
@danirey425
@danirey425 3 года назад
Today it's piled up with people, you literally see lines of hopefuls.
@regrettithesadspaghetti8521
@regrettithesadspaghetti8521 3 года назад
And lines of dead for what matters
@ashs1670
@ashs1670 3 года назад
Piled is an overstatement. Do a bit of research beyond mainstream media
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 года назад
They're mostly real estate developers looking for new opportunities.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 Год назад
Like Disney World
@DonAlcohol
@DonAlcohol 3 года назад
i feel like alex honnold deservers a place in the lists of firsts, first to climb el capitan without a rope (and in under 4 hours)
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 3 года назад
Free Solo is a great film!
@VadimKudim
@VadimKudim 10 месяцев назад
13:40 If you're referring to Conrad Anker's experiment with Mallory's outfit's replicas, then you are wrong. In "The Wildest Dream" documentary he emphasized that the outfit was inadequate for Everest, especially the boots, they neatly got frostbitten very soon and had to use modern outfit for the rest of the expedition.
@MaximusBacon
@MaximusBacon 3 года назад
I really liked this video. I remember reading the article about their ‘99 expedition in my Maxim magazine way back in college. To see the photos of Mallory and his possessions was so enthralling to me. I hope they find the camera but it would take a small miracle for that to happen.
@BlackCat0315
@BlackCat0315 Год назад
I saw something, a piece of an interview with Hillary, when asked something along the lines of what if Mallory did get there first, he arrogantly said that he got down and Mallory didn't so Mallory's didn't count. I hope they can prove Mallory got there just to stick it to Hillary's arrogance and disrespect. Frankly, it could be argued that, even if Mallory did not make it, his attempt was better simply because he had none of the technology Hillary had at his disposal and basically climbed up there in clothes he might otherwise wear while relaxing at home.
@lauratroxel24
@lauratroxel24 3 года назад
I would love to know what actually happened up there that day. It's such a great story and I hope they find Sandy in my lifetime.
@airriflemaniac
@airriflemaniac 3 года назад
Anyone else start an Everest video binge, after seeing Don Cash on Hillary Ridge a few months back?
@thatrecord5313
@thatrecord5313 3 года назад
Film is an INCREDIBLY organic substance. It has an expiration date, usually a year or two after purchase. However, film hobbyists have a dainty trick of refrigerating their film in order for it to last longer. However, WWII film canisters today are being developed and still yield some form of an image. To have the film stored in freezing temperatures and "only" 20 years older is a promising chance of yielding images on the 1924 roll.
@ethericboy
@ethericboy 3 года назад
Their boots were"nt even spiked but only had these so called "cups"(see Mallory"s intact boot)and he was found on his stomach with broken thumbs from trying to stop sliding.The two were also tied together so one may have slipped an dragged the other with him but "Sandy" was never found
@iamstodgy1549
@iamstodgy1549 3 года назад
that 1 dislike is tt guy that cowered out from climbing mt Everest
@Vsm4969
@Vsm4969 3 года назад
it 25 now
@iamstodgy1549
@iamstodgy1549 3 года назад
@@Vsm4969 ok but when i was there there was only 1
@nicholascrow8133
@nicholascrow8133 3 года назад
Bear Grylls noted that it was climbers that selected the name "The death zone" and that climbers famously like to underplay the risks faced with climbing. Says it all really!
@aidangambura7067
@aidangambura7067 3 года назад
How did you post your pinned comment 2 days ago when this was posted 2 minute ago?🤔
@NitinSingh-xr7ft
@NitinSingh-xr7ft 3 года назад
This will be the title of his next video.
@M4rcLL
@M4rcLL 3 года назад
THE VIDEO WAS PRIVATE, EiNsTeIn
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 3 года назад
Either somehow the video took 2 days to upload, and he used the comment function during the uploading process, or like someone else said, it was private. However the official youtube channel is 50 years old, so it could just be another youtube fuckup.
@-NateTheGreat
@-NateTheGreat 3 года назад
You can schedule your publish day and time for videos
@MyFoxworld
@MyFoxworld 3 года назад
You can set youtube to when your video goes live.
@christineparis5607
@christineparis5607 3 года назад
EVERYONE should read, "Into The Silence", by Wade Davis. The best, most fascinating account of the expeditions with Mallory to get to the top. What just floored me was that almost everyone on the first expedition (other than Mallory) was from the old India school of "conquering": out of shape, alcoholic, suffering from fevers, diabetes etc...used to servants doing everything. They were more concerned with how many delicacies and bottles of champagne and brandy they could drag up to the base camps, the amounts are staggering!! Mallory wasn't allowed to make the first ascent on the mountain because the honor was supposed to go to the older men who had more prestige, not who had the best chance of making it to the top. Everything was run like an East India Company vacation retreat, which had the predictable outcome of being a total failure... When Mallory finally got his chance, he was completely committed, no matter what.
@TheGotoGeek
@TheGotoGeek Год назад
It's important to remember that people didn't use the same names for features in 1924 as they do now, and what O'Dell referred to was almost certainly not the Second Step that we talk about today. Michael Tracy goes into great detail about this on his channel, and anyone interested should watch his videos.
@nouche
@nouche 3 года назад
In case Mallory made it to the top alone, how is Irvine’s camera going to help?
@paganphil100
@paganphil100 3 года назад
Nouche: If Mallory reached the summit alone he would most likely have taken the camera with him.....that's why they took it.
@TheMW2OG
@TheMW2OG 3 года назад
What if tenzig (the guys who officially climbed it first) found something on top to show that Mallory and Irvine did summit, but they just hid it and claimed nothing was there ...
@davidanderson_surrey_bc
@davidanderson_surrey_bc 3 года назад
Irvine now sleeps with the frozen fishes.
@mjolninja9358
@mjolninja9358 3 года назад
Free Palpatine
@jens-joachimvonbandemer1981
@jens-joachimvonbandemer1981 3 года назад
6:05 You are showing the ascent line to Ama Dablam (6900m), not Everest Also, jets cruise quite a bit higher
@vickielawson3114
@vickielawson3114 3 года назад
Chewing coca leaves would help alleviate altitude sickness, since the alkaloids in the coca plant (like cocaine) increase oxygenation in the blood, in addition to boosting energy and focus. That's one of the reasons indigenous people in South America near the Andes chew coca leaves.
@josephjo8350
@josephjo8350 3 года назад
I literally searched this in google a couple of mins ago and then this upload 👁️👄👁️
@Jay2tha206
@Jay2tha206 2 года назад
I think Mallory did it. I truly think he made it up, but fell on his decent. I really hope they are able to find the camera one day. It would kind of suck for the 2 dudes that did it in 1958, but the truth must be told, if in fact they did reach the top first. The other dudes will still be the first to summit and return safely. Which in my opinion is a better accomplishment. ,
@davem8836
@davem8836 Год назад
A little known fact: Neil Armstrong found a body on the moon. It was Alice Kramden.
@assalethegoat7187
@assalethegoat7187 Год назад
Nah I think she was called Candice
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 Год назад
Honeymooners!!!
@oo0Spyder0oo
@oo0Spyder0oo 3 года назад
No mention of George being the bother of Leigh who commanded 11 group just after the BoB.
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