Onslaught is really fun, but one thing needs some major attention. 

Fallen teleporting directly onto the ADU and entitely ignoring your traps and holograms has killed numerous runs for me and needs to be fixed.

Datto whipping out the "umm acksually" emote in the thumbnail

"Cut the feed.....I'm coming down there guardian, let's show you how a real legend battles" -Shaxx of my dreams

UPGRADE THE DECOYS! Upgraded one of them on Midtown and had a Tormentor show up and it pretty much aggro'd him the whole wave. Even after we cleared out all of the Servitors the big guy was still attacking the sweeper bot. Easiest Tormentor kill ever.

Honestly, I don't need a guaranteed shiny from level 50 whether that's once per account per week or otherwise. Instead give me just a borderlands esque lootsplosion of even a handful of weapon drops and some medals and I would be so hyped every time. In fact, who needs a chest! Make Shaxx pose at the end and loot flies from the hologram

Mothyards also seems to have the old issue of enemies getting stuck on geometry then teleporting straight to the objective when defending the pyramid tower point.

Better loot incentive for 50 clear definitely needed but also put a button on ADU that signifies you're ready for the wave, I hate sitting around for 30 seconds when I have no intention of upgrading/buying anything with scrap.

The “shaxx how did you get this number” is actually genius. Similar to a kill streak that is very difficult to get, having the option to buy a shaxx/ Zavala/ Saint etc for a round… would be a great idea Also for the first time in years I actually was excited about a loot drop. Love weapon crafting but the idea of a few cracked weapons not craft able with unique perks combinations brought back some love for the game I hadn’t felt in awhile.

Onslaught can be the best mode in the game as long as it’s still supported, so much potential with new maps, enemies and upgrades

Yay, someone prominent mentioning the lack of postmaster and vault kiosks. Neomuna has these things. It's a severe oversight that they weren't included here, even for a limited time zone.

If you’re like me and have been waiting for Hierarchy of Needs to have its moment, this is it. The use case of “stand in an area and shoot at lots of adds and beefy targets that are also over 30 meters away for an extended period of time to justify not using special or heavy on them” is here.

Decoys are the answer to Tormentors on Legend, once we prioritized that we cleared 50 relatively easily. You still need to keep control of the field, but it stops the 'nothing you can do' aspect of the miniboss spawns.

The Shaxx popping up to help us as an npc add clearer would be Epic, like we earn him by not dying and can call him on command every 10 rounds, or save him until the end where he stays out much longer. Good idea Datto!

On the note of the Wave + Modifier Combos... the one that wrecked my team was on Midtown with the hive. It was an almost all Ogre wave + a flipping TORMENTOR. We got ran SO fast XD

My very first round of onslaught was in the mothyards and I instantly knew that it was my least favorite, without even needing to do any of the other locations 😂

based datto points as always would LOVE for the redjacks that walk with you to the ADU in the very beginning to stay around until they die, they remind me of Marines from Halo campaigns.

4:30 I really enjoy the unpredictability & surprises, keeps it fresh

I did legend onslaught with 2 randoms and it went surprisingly well and made 2 new friends in the process, all waves complete, just played well together

I think the harsh time limit in the halls is due to it having open comms. If your voice chat is just on by default, everyone can hear you. Probably alot of bandwidth to keep that going for AFK folks, so they clear em out quick.

What I love most about Onslaught is how good all of the roaming supers are here, Stormdancer's Brace on arc Warlock, Raiden Flux with Arc Hunter, and Synthoceps on Berserker Titan are all so absurdly good all the time and fantastically chain together.

I think they should add the armor after you unlock it into the Legend 50 wave clear. Maybe like 4 chests so you get 2 weapons and 2 armor pieces but give the armor the shader the guns have and make it so you can get aa chance for it to be artifice armor as well. Edit: obviously no increase in the the rare shader to drop Just up the quantity

"How'd you get this number?" "I called Mara."

Here for the Vesper shoutout, been loving it for all the tight spaces and (mostly) static spawns

You actually can access the vault in HoC. When you open up the launch screen for the hall in destinations you can press "down" and it will open your vault.

Please just put a vault in The Hall of Champions it’s all I want

i really want more maps and modifiers. Imagine a neomuna map with vex able to spawn... a scourge of the past city area... also by modifiers i mean the ones you can see in orbit, and something cool like enemies always make cursed thrall explosions or something that completely changes the way we play

You remember those warmind frames we had in the revision zero mission? I think something like that would be fun to be a big scrap purchase.

Mothyards is my favourite just because of the size and feeling of defending a mini castle in the little pyramid structure. But I do agree with datto. The enemies can just be miles away and behind an object like a plane. Just annoying to go find the enemies sometimes.

Just spit tomato soup all over my screen after he says "Shaxx shows up and the Triumph is How'd you get this number". 🤪🤣

On the shiny gun topic, I would rather double perk guns be the reward for legend wave 50. If you get a shiny on top of that then cool, but that would be an easy way to improve the loot chase without handing out shinies for free.

The guaranteeing 1 shiny per character per week is a good option. What should be done is up the chance a bit for legend and another up in percentage for reaching wave 50, not guaranteed after your weekly per character but a higher chance because all I've got is only 2 shinies and I've grinded this non stop since tuesday

they can easily implement that you get 1 extra chest for each 10 waves, so the first wave is 1 chest, second wave 2, third 3, fourth 4, and fifth 5, you get 15 totals chest for a full run

What's up brother? Special guns Special guardians Special loot

My biggest issue is the Hall of Champions is being sunset

Do holo weapons have static or better rolls in general? I feel like recluse with destabilizing and repulsor brace along with substinance master of arms is WAY too good for my luck

Do I need to progress in the campaign on every character before I get access to the hall of heros where shaxx is or once I have it on 1 character I get it on all 3? I've just got back on the game after years away from it

Bungo you made datto sleep ! Especially in moth yards, how very dare you !

Finally my opinion has arrived

My problem is that the drop rates are so low that we’re gonna have almost no time to get the last two guns that come out on April 30th

Lovely video to have a dump to datto. Your calming voice made it come out like a Sea Otter sliding off a bank. No wipes needed.

Finally my opinion has arrived.

Mothyards is probably the best map for those of us warlocks employing the "carpet bomber" play style. Using heat rises and rain of fire, spamming galla or dragons breath cause heavy ammo feels infinite in onslaught

i agree with the loot, getting a shiny of a weapon i want feels super good, i got like 4 shiny successions on launch day (one being the one i use now, Reconstruction and Box Breathing) and haven't gotten a single one since

Its so funny bringing up the double perks. I have a shotgun from vanguard with 3 perks in each column because i ranked up enough. Until i can craft and buy all the upgrades for a gun, the multiperks from playlist stuff is really nice

Finally! My opinion on this content has arrived. I wasn’t sure what to tell my friends until now.

Our opinion has arrived

can you get the shiny double perk weapons from the chest in the hall of hero’s, or only from running onslaught??

god dangit bungo you might have actually convinced me to come back to the game. the question is, do I jump right in to onslaught, or do I go back and finish the last two seasonal storylines first?

50 on legends needs a coil room with ascendant shards and one guaranteed shiny.

18 seconds 0 views bro fell off smh

11:25 I think if they gave a cipher, like the nightfall ciphers, but for shinies. Make the ciphers a bit rng too so that it doesn't feel guaranteed still. Either that or exchange em for skeleton keys that u need to use on the bonus chest at 50

Thank you! Yes i want a postmaster so i dont heed to travel to two places. As well as let me change the colour of the dif hud esp the type on the left hand side of the screen.

Midtown + osmiomancy stasislock with verglas curve = effortless win

On the topic of the tripwire traps: get one to tier 2 or 3 and pop tether so it yanks a large group into it, or several beefy enemies into the blast at once. The debuff has wiped entire swarms or greatly softened big hp sponges

What is that white/greenish blue shader on forbearance…? Its looks really nice

Great video, thank you for putting this out. At least a vault

Sensational, loving the uploads

On the topic of shinies, I almost wouldn't mind a bad luck protection system similar to raid exotics. Keep em rare, but the escalating chance would be nice for a bit of consistency. I do agree though, the rarity is what makes em cool

And now without further ADU: Datto’s opinion on onslaught.

I think something onslaught can benefit from is the purchasable modifiers we see in rivens lair.

With weapon crafting in the game, I think some continued form of timeframe restricted "shiny" version of weapons in other activities would be super epic. Like FOTL, the dawning, and GG weapons having a chance to drop with shiny variants of each year's holiday event weapon skin. Keep the mementos in for craftable weapins to get a special tracker and shader, but imagine a "shiny" version of the GG weapons where the event symbols were reactive to how your class did daily / finished during the games the same as the class items. Or on the FOTL weapons the "shiny" variant could make the event icons on the weapon glow the colors of the event candles. The dawning weapons could have some similar function to the brave arsenal where the gold parts glow. Something to add a little extra spice to events where we get 1 new weapon and some reskinned variants of the other each year.

This game mode has had me thinking of different builds I can run, it allows me to just ball out with no limits and it’s still hard. Thinking during my gameplay and participating with watching the adu’s health and battery uptime, I honestly gave up with wondering if bungie could challenge us in this fashion but in such a simple game mode they’ve done the impossible, but besides the little caveats a question has loomed in my head since I heard it, why does it take bungie against the wall to get content that is player friendly? Evan asked it in his video and it stuck with me since if bungie pulls off final shape that’ll be 3/3 times bungie came back, whether or not that’s a good thing is there a pattern that bungie can’t break? Are we doomed to repeat the curse?

On the Postmaster/Vault complaint, it could be a couple things. 1) The social space is listed on the calendar has having an end date, so maybe it gets vaulted (which would suck). Cuz of that, they didn't think getting vault/postmaster functionality was necessary or worth the dev time. 2) Bungie said they are working on "vault from anywhere" for TFS and they just purposely re-added the vault from anywhere but. 3) could just be they wanted it to behave like (or it was lifted design wise) from Xur's treasure hoard, which doesn't have those thing. I wish it had the vault there, but at least you can just go to orbit to open your vault. If you are going thru your inventory, you probably also have prime/exotic engrams, which would mean you'd need a cryptarch as well.

I just got back into D2 after buying Lightfall for $17 on sale on Steam, and I've been away since week 1 of Witch Queen. This mode is SO MUCH FUN. It's the perfect lure to bring back veteran players. I'm enjoying the game more than I thought I would.

I haven't played much onslaught yet, but I played on Vostok for a bit, and when our ADU was on that metal platform with the towers on either side, we had a minor hiccup. We had the round where you have to stand in the rift to damage the bosses. A servitor went behind the adu, exactly on the opposite side from where the rift was. Had a hell of a time trying to break its shield, and my blueberries weren't much help either lol.

Is there matchmaking on legend dificulty or do you need a premade fireteam?

Did you try the masuda method for the shiny weapons?

I would love a neomuna map for onslaught, and I feel you, there’s nothing else I want to do in the game right now. I’d love if they made a Brave memento, or had some unique Armor to get from wave 50 like the Age of Triumph armor from D1

of course when into the light dropped DIM was down so i had to go back to orbit to acces vault. havent played since but thats a huge QOL fix that seems easy enough didnt tribute hall have postmaster/vault?

Is it feasible for someone who is still at 1810 power (+ 5 or so artifact power) to run the legend difficulty? I've just started playing again after about a year so I'm a bit behind on pinnacle levels

Im glad people are saying great stuff about decoys because u had noticed the value of them pretty early and when i got some randos to do a legend run i was kicked more than once for buying decoys because they thought i was throwing.

Like the video, and I agree (for the most part). Except there's one problem. The shinies will only be available until the final shape. Which means no double perk (unless it's just the shader, then disregard the rest of the comment).The shinies should be GUARANTEED at wave 50. It's about one hour, hour + for most people to complete to not get a guaranteed. What's Not guaranteed is completing 50 runs. I have a few runs of 50 and I WILL NOT do that again until I get guarantees (OK I lied, it's fun, but won't go out of my way to make sure I do it). After the final shape them they can guarantee an adept weapon on a rotation or something.

2016 april update 2.0, this is the content we've been needing

It would be nice if they added scorn or Cabal to the mix or even the dread after final shape to spice up the the mode

I got a shiny elsies rifle and as a returning player, did NOT know what I was looking at or why it was "different," and I vaulted it just in case it was rare. And boy am I glad I did. 😂

I actually think trip mines are decently powerful, but they are currently bugged (I assume anyway) to where ~75% of them will despawn after a pyramid ship round. In my experience all the trip mines close to the ADU despawn when you come back after the pyramid ship round while those further away will stay. I've maxed out a tripmine and had it stay around until wave 50, but also bought a trip mine and immediately had it despawn after the midround boss.

Severance enclosure my beloved...your time to shine has come

Im really liking Onslaught. Playing with my other friends who consistently play Destiny (On normal) isnt stressful, but playing with my friends who are extra casual (on normal as well) is a bit of a challenge, as they arent running great builds. One round we had a Tormentor on round 3 that just absolutely destroyed us, but we were still having a great time lol

loving this new era of datto thumbnails

The other thing that seems to happen very rarely in Onslaught, at least for me, is sometimes after doing a boss every 10 Waves you'll get a kind of Bonus Round where you have practically infinite abilities and super and a horde of Tormentors spawn and every time you kill one you get Tokens and maybe some weapon drops. And for the whole just doing the first 10 Waves and bailing thing on Legend, probably the most simple method is redistributing loot. 1 Chest on Wave 10, 2 Chests of Wave 20, 3 Chests on Wave 30, and so on, then in the final round when you have 5 chests you just have them automatically open and explode loot out the top. You'll get the feel goods seeing all those chests lined up at the end and you'll even have 1 extra compared to the 10 now.

Saw someone else point out what they should do is for the first ten waves, you get 1 piece of loot + mats. Wave 20 reward, 2 weapons + mats 30, 3 weapons + mats etc. Doesnt raise it that much but at least makes it worth you time.

Have yet to try a legend run, but for incentives to stay for later rounds I would think adding more chests after each boss encounter would be an okay change. So your normal 2 chests after the first boss, 3 for the second, etc. up to 6 chests if you clear the 5th boss plus that final chest for completing it (so a total of 7) Don't need to alter any drop rates or chances for the shinnies, you'll just have many more opportunities for them through the sheer amount of chests you open up in one run

@datto I got the sniper shinning what good perk u recommend for it

I'm gonna say it, i LOVE cosmetics dropping in the field. Quests or triumphs like the ones for Ghorn and Acrius, or RNG ones like the Holofoil ornaments, any of it. I see weapons more or less as trophies, and these things make me want to strive for the fancier, cooler trophy, and with good rolls too if necessary. Makes things feel way more special and fun, and like I'm here for a reason.

Traps are actually really good for chip damage alongside your upgraded turrets. The turrets constantly chip, while the traps take chunks away, making you spend less time trying to take out the tankier enemies and allowing yourself to be swarmed by the smaller ads.

This might be my favorite activity since Escalation Protocol.

Ok what if for the scrap dump idea the thing was the enhanced rasputin Frames, from Season of the worthy? They could act as like a combination between decoy and turret and they stick around until they die and dont despawn after a boss wave. Also after u summon it u can dump like 2k for a small amount of healing, 4k for moderate and 6k for large. That way u have to balance and decide either to upgrade decoys and turrets or just keep the frame, but you could have both as well if u manage resources well.

Tripminds fully leveled, also get hive to start with, your more likely to get shriekers instead of tormentor, shriekers can be blinded(gl) tethered shackled to be delt with

First time since lightfail dropped I've agreed with dattos opinion on an activities difficulty to loot ratio 👌

I think some of the best options would be to make it so that extra chest you get at the end of a 50 wave clear is a slightly increased chance of getting a shiny or make it drop double weapon loot, which is essentially the samething i guess

Just got my first full clear of it today. It's fun! For the loot, idk... I feel like the activity is already so generous that adding more just seems... pointless? I've gotten more normal drops than I know what to do with... So I think the only reason to add loot that people have is because they want the uber rare stuff to be less rare. But, as you said, the entire point is for it to be uber rare. Another factor that I think most people don't think about is that this activty has only been out for a few days. I have no doubt that sometime soon the community will crowd source builds and behaviors that will shorten lengthy runs significantly. But even if we never get below an average of 45min... This is still FAR more loot than really anything else in the game right now, and literally none of the weapons are bad... So again... what is the point of "more" aside from the desire to lower the rarity of the thing that is intended to be super rare... There are some buggy things, but overall my only complaint is that we can't set the duration on our own. I'd love to be able to just choose to only do 20 waves, or to start with enemies that are more difficult. THe normal mode is too easy for the first half, but by the second half it's right where I like my casual difficulty to sit. Legend starts out at the right point for me, but scales up into very difficult stuff. So I'd like something in the middle for when I want to play, but don't want to have to sweat. Overall though, this is a pheonmenal activity and event. Easily 11/10 from me.

so what do you think about this mode going after the new dlc is out? atleast thats how the twab and roadmap is worded

I completely agree with the shiny rates rn don't take the special feeling away I've played about 13 hours so far and haven't got a single one but I'm excited to go back and grind for it but I definitely respect your opinion.

Add a vault in the hall and Ill be set. Also, you can knock over all the chests in the hall if you now how to strafe on to the edges. Its hilarious lol

I’ve only played 1 match of onslaught so idk if there’s a solution to this but I really wish there was a health bar on the ADU. Maybe there’s some way to tell its health that I didn’t realize but I rly wish there was some bar or something

My friends and I were saying how cool it would be if we could used scrap to call in one of our major allies to the battlefield with us: Caiatl arrives in a massive drop pod and draws all the aggro, Mithrax holds down the ADU while the rest of us go grab bonus objectives, something like that.

Tbh I agree with everything except for maybe the holofoil rarity. I've been getting a few more than what you described in this video. I don't think they are super rare. I get one at least every 50 waves of onslaught I do, which I think is nice. However, I will half-agree that the loot is lack-luster atm. It needs a big upgrade if we beat legend onslaught in perhaps a certain time limit or having leftover scrap. There needs to be some method for more loot during the legend mode.

I didn't even know the shiny weapons were so rare, I got a Recluse and Edge Transit for my first Brave weapons and thought they were just guaranteed. Sick though!

My team usually start spending scrap around wave 40 as thats the last location. So you can just absolutely beef up your dwfenses. We usually end up eith everything exotic

If you still have yet to try hunter on the smaller maps, I recommend trying Foetracer (helmet exotic) with The Lament. (The exotic sword DPS weapon.) Throw on some heavy ammo finders, a lucent blades mod or two, and harmonic/solar reserves and scavenger mods to keep up the heavy ammo amounts, and you should be able to use Lament almost all the time. It has the power to to ad clear very effectively, and whatever it can't kill quickly normally becomes easy to kill with Foetracer.