OP-Z: Sampling Explained!

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Teenage Engineering updates the OP-Z to now have sampling features internally. And we want to know, How does it work? What's the workflow? And how useful is it? In this in depth look at sampling on the OP-Z, Ollie Loops has coverage you can count on.
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@chikapunk4340 5 лет назад

Very helpful. Just to say, congratulations on your first thousand subscribers!

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment. And thanks for your support!!!

@inventanew 5 лет назад

12:41 I thought I was doing something wrong with sampling, but your video confirmed my issues, I hope they do a major official release with a more simplified workflow, such potential

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment. I agree and hope that they improve some of the features of sampling on the OPZ. It could be so much better!

@surajshyamalan3434 5 лет назад

Great structured explanation, thank you!

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment. Much appreciated!

@grantcarrillo6564 5 лет назад

Another great video!

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@patrickmcnaryhayes545 4 года назад

Loved the thorough review. Been using sampling for awhile and still got some great tips and reminders. The test tone engaged by hitting track while in sample mode is not at all a gimmick however. When on the white keys all play the sample at the "set" pitch which if you listen to and tune to 440 makes it so that when you hit an A on the keyboard after leaving sample mode its sounding a true A 440khz, that way you can play well with friends. Try it with things that aren't necessarily tonal and use your ear for fun.

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

Patrick McNary Hayes good tip. Thanks.

@mikabreto 3 года назад

Reminds me of the Casio SK series and sample tune with the A=440Hz playing while you adjust up or down. [Lion roar, dog bark]

@GiriGagan 3 года назад

Could you please please, elaborate this a bit? I know it’s a been a year since your comment, I hope that you get this reply and somehow time stretches to accommodate my query!

@crazygamingswede 4 года назад

Really liked the vid. Very informative! Fingersnapping was annoying though when trying to listen to what you were saying. Anyway, keep up the great work!

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

Thanks for your feedback. We were having some fun with the finger snapping, but I understand your point. Thanks!

@thomasdavis8722 3 года назад

Been watching vids on this thing for the past coyple days and ive been impressed but still iffy on whether or not to get it. But seeing the sampling capabilities im sold.

@OllieLoops 3 года назад

Sampling does make it more fun to use.

@ZakNicola 2 года назад

The presentation made me smile

@OllieLoops 2 года назад

Thanks!

@Val_Cla 5 лет назад

Those new features might be the jump for me to get an Opz. Been looking at it for quite some time, and now i really think it would be worth it ^^

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment. Yes, these new features do make the unit more compelling. Let me know what you decide.

@Val_Cla 5 лет назад

@@OllieLoops sure man ! i'll let you know :) Btw nice content you have ^^ count me among your 1k subs :D

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

@@Val_Cla Thanks!! I really appreciate the support!

@quinchen5224 4 года назад

I also want to know how to copy and paste the sample to another track.

@ragazzometallico 5 лет назад

Hi, on the OP1 it's possible to sample any source without having to press the record button. You simply need to press "shift + a keyboard key" (while in synth or drum sampler) and it will go in standby mode, waiting for an input sound. I'm not sure about the OPZ as I don't own one, but give it a try :) . About your copy and paste problem, if I understood correctly what you meant, it should be just like as on the PO33: pressing and holding a step containing a sample will copy it to memory, pressing an empty step will paste it. Anyway, in my opinion the OPZ came out "incomplete", and it's a real shame. It's a beautiful item, but since its main purpose is sequencing (possibly other gear), the lack of i\o inserts is a pretty big deal. Selling a module is pointless, as it should have been integrated into the machine from the beginning. Plus lack of screen and \ or an android app is the cherry on top. I'm a huge TE fan, but I don't see myself buying an OPZ pretty soon, a PO33 is a better companion for the OP1 than the OPZ, specially considering the price.

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, great comment. Thank you! 100% agreement! First, on the OPZ sampling copy and paste stuff, I'll give that a try. The Shift + keyboard trick didn't work on the OPZ. But good to know on the OP1. Regarding the OPZ and your comment, I think you're spot on. It was over promised and underdelivered. And that is a shame, not just for the devices potential, but for the price point and value to the end users. If it were $300, I would say, its a tremendous value. But with the little shortcomings and lack of being fully resolved, it doesn't work well for me personally.

@alecsbuga 5 лет назад

Use the OPZ app and the Configurator menu to copy samples from one track to another. Keep in mind that slice points are shared across tracks. Also in drum mode if you sample a one bar loop precisely it will be chopped in 16ths and 8ths across the keys. Like the OP1 did. Useful. Because you can then fill a bar with steps and basically time stretch the old fashioned way. I wish they had threshold recording or trimming so you can have perfect slices. But I'm happy with the way it is right now. I'm hoping for an audio card module though

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for that info. Follow up question, using the Configurator will allow you to assign the User Sample Pack on other tracks, correct? But theres no way to copy and paste a sample on the OP-Z, correct?

@alecsbuga 5 лет назад

Ollie Loops none that I know of :(

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

@@alecsbuga Thanks Alex. Let me know if you discover the secret recipe.

@Khordmaster 5 лет назад

Nice tip here bro. So if I were to sample a 1 bar loop, I would have to try to start it at the same moment I start recording for it to be chopped close to perfect right? There's no way to have it start recording once it hits a threshold?

@mikabreto 3 года назад

@@Khordmaster if the software allowed for that, it would be able to. Maybe in a firmware update. BTW, how long before we start seeing homebrew firmwares?

@mfultimate 4 года назад

Does anyone know what the morse code says?

@hiphopblues 5 лет назад

Hi, very informative and helpful. Could you sample using a USB turntable?

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Great question. I don't have a USB turntable on hand to try. If the community knows, please comment here. Otherwise, I'll try to find about and report back. Thanks.

@randommcranderson5155 3 года назад

I have an adapter that will split the TRSS into separate mic and earphone jacks. I want to sample directly into the device from a synth output. Will a line level output work? I'm worried about damaging the op-z with line level voltage - should I stick with a headphone out from the synth?

@OllieLoops 3 года назад

Officially, the OPZ can’t accept line level. Even the headphone output is closer to line level than mic level. You run the risk of damaging it if you run those signals into the device. A work around would be to get a USB interface, run a line level signal into it, then sample the signal via USB on the interface. Hope that helps.

@flatlandrecordingsflr7304 4 года назад

Hello, Tried for days now, really struggling to use my Samsung S8 to output audio to the OPZ in sample mode. Been to Samsung shop, I have my audio output settings on my phone to OPZ via Samsung Smart Things, have USB configuration in Developer Settings to output Audio via USB and sound doesnt leave phone via the speaker or the headphone port when settings are like this, so audio is leaving phone via the usb c port but OPZ does not seem to think that is the default audio input, it still only listens via built in mic or earphones mic when engaged. Thoughts? Has anyone else successfully used sample mode direct from Samsung S8 into OPZ? My girlfriends Android phone, Huawei P30 works instantly, no settings changed, just the same usb c to usb c and straight away I can sample digital audio into the OPZ, I just need to do the same on my Samsung S8. Do I need a USB OTG cable? Or a seperate app that reroutes the audio leaving my phone or tells the OPZ it is slave to listen not my phone listen to audio FROM OPZ via USB (I dont know if it is doing this however). I am on latest firmware on both OPZ and phone. Help needed pls Thanks Myles

@JoramMachtSachen 4 года назад

Just use a Y TRRS cable splitting headphones from microphone and plug in any mic or line in. i use that to connect any mic to ipad/iphone and such an adapter costs just a few bucks

@nacs 4 года назад

The problem is that line-level input will destroy your hardware since the OPZ's TRRS port only allows *Mic*-level in. This warning about destroying hardware is on the manual

@bagoftrix 4 года назад

nacs how does it destroy it exactly? Isn’t it just a volume thing? I use a similar adapter to sample with my iPhone using the trrs mic input and wondered what line input vs mic input matters, didn’t know it could be harmful.

@mikabreto 3 года назад

Line level signals are approximately one volt. Mic level signals are in the range of 0.001 volts, or 1,000 times less voltage. You can reduce the voltage of a line level signal by using an attenuator or a DI (Direct Injection) box.

@mystificateur 3 года назад

Great video. Great work! You speak a little bit too fast for me lol so I had to press BACK a few times! There is a lot useful information packed in there :)

@OllieLoops 3 года назад

Thanks! I know it’s a bit fast, but it’s there if you need to rewatch it. It’s hard to find the perfect balance between too slow and too fast. I’ll keep working on it. Thanks again.

@stgflt 4 года назад

Haven't tried it yet, but the Zoom H-recorders should work both over USB and the TRRS and provide pretty good fidelity while being portable.

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

Hey, good insight. Drop a comment if you get a chance to try it and let us know how it goes.

@ThaddeusV21 4 года назад

I have a Zoom H6, are you saying we can record from usb c to the native micro usb input foind on the Zoom's?

@squirrelvalhalla9386 4 года назад

I have an H6 too. Havent tried USB to OPZ yet... but just running it via a TRRS adapter, it sounds beautiful. Have used it for several tracks thus far.

@pixsled 3 года назад

Hey what is the case which the op z was in at the beginning of the video, it looks nice. thanks.

@OllieLoops 3 года назад

Hey, is from a company called Digi Toys. They had a project called Zeta, which included the OP-Z case. You may still be able to get one.

@pixsled 3 года назад

@@OllieLoops Thanks!

@magnetoclash 2 года назад

Does the Line module change your opinions about sampling on Opz?

@OllieLoops 2 года назад

I believe it adds the ability to sample from a line level input.

@rackadactal4466 Год назад

Sample from the po-33 to the Z and sampling from the mic and edit the sample into the DAW to lightly clean up the samples I’d say the possibility are many. Really miss my op1 tho , because it did everything that I wanted ended up selling it because it was the first generation and firmware was always crashing on me in the middle of projects so I sold it 😢it was the worst thing I’ve ever done equipment wise but the Z is $800 less expensive and adding a po-33 will be a good thing

@OllieLoops Год назад

Good info. Thanks for sharing.

@pongtrometer 5 лет назад

I hope the drum/synth engine samplers on both the #OP1 and #OPZ have time-stretch capabilities in future updates 🤓

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment! That is a great suggestion. I hope that happens!

@naumchomsky8840 5 лет назад

This, and I'm also hoping for internal re-sampling like on the digitakt.

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

@@naumchomsky8840 yes! Great Point!

@alyeska4226 5 лет назад

@@naumchomsky8840 I saw a video where the cat was resampling, and latched rec while doing so.

@diejaycee 5 лет назад

You can use USB to sample from your phone, that makes the usb audio input pretty awesome for me.

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment. Can you tell me a bit about your setup and how youre able to sample off your phone?

@dreamlogic1563 5 лет назад

Ollie Loops yep same here. You can count my iPhone to my mobile dawless setup now together with the OP-Z. Just connect the iPhone via the Apple Camera Connector directly to the OP-Z and you have nearly unlimited sample opportunities from different Apps, RU-vid, Spotify etc. with a pretty great workflow in my opinion!

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

@@dreamlogic1563 Thanks for that. So it's just plug and play, no settings to adjust? I'll have to get one of those adapters. Thanks for the info!

@dreamlogic1563 5 лет назад

Ollie Loops correct - as soon as the iphone is connected the OP-Z switches to USB-C sample mode and you can start sampling . I loved the OP-Z before but this opened a new world of creativity on the go for me.

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

@@dreamlogic1563 Thanks! Good info.

@houseofflambeau9656 4 года назад

Trrs adapter. Just get the correct one and you got line in. There are 3 different kinds.

@GiriGagan 3 года назад

The is a guy on Etsy called “digdug diy” he makes an adapter for the op-z, to convert the trrs into an individual input (mono) and stereo output. I am using this and it works rather beautifully.

@0oSiLveRo0 5 лет назад

I really don't care about OP-1 compability, as I don't own one and I'm not planning getting one for 1400 EUR. I think they said a sampler module is not out of the question later. The PO-33 style copy paste is feasible for sure from a tech standpoint, since it doesn't take up additional space to have the same user sample in multiple plugs across multiple instruments, we can safely assume that they are stored in a similar way, UX is a bit harder on that one though. I think the line-in functionality was supposed to be achieved via a simple TRRS splitter and some people are having success using one as a line in. Would it be different form op1 line in, if you just had to use a splitter for line in functionality? Overall, I'm really happy with this update.

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

Hey, thanks for your comment. To clarify our point, it shouldn't be necessary to purchase an OP-1 (or module) to get further sampling functionality on the OP-Z, it just would have been nice because many people already own both units. After all, some people did pay almost $2000 for both units. Since both units have their strengths, using them together would make them a powerful duo, at least in theory. The TRRS input is not an easy item to resolve. After spending 4+ hours trying every method, cable, adopter and setting combination, we had little success getting anything useful from this input. We didn't try every solution available, but we did try several at our disposal. There are some technical reasons why a line level input is superior to a mic level input, which is its input gain. Microphones require more gain than line level inputs. So, although you can get a line level signal to work on a mic input, its just not as good as having a dedicated line level input because you get more headroom from a line level signal. Usually there needs to be a transistor or other component to change the signal's gain from mic to line. In principle, a splitter will still be expecting to see a mic level signal. As mentioned in the video, an iRig interface, which would convert the signal before it enters the OP-Z, theoretically is a possible solution. But as a whole, the TRRS input requires more research and testing to come up with a useable solution. And in short, if it's too complicated for most users, then maybe it wasn't implemented well.

@0oSiLveRo0 5 лет назад

@@OllieLoops Thanks for the clarification on the mic level input, I didnt know that.

@OllieLoops 5 лет назад

@@0oSiLveRo0 no worries!

@MyNameJeff.. 3 месяца назад

How tf do you select i out source? I’m following the manual, holding play - 1,2 or 3. It won’t let me. This thing is infuriating.

@DarioMiticocchio 4 года назад

Module with also more storage (or an SD card), and a button on the side to have multiple pages of samples

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

That would be a good addition to this device.

@DarioMiticocchio 4 года назад

@@OllieLoops yep, if I buy an additional module I should get good value out of it 😉

@carlos_martinezzz 3 года назад

I have an Android phone and works perfect connected via USB C. I didn't have to set anything on my phone or the OP-Z. It worked instantly. I have to use a usb c adapter for the included OP-Z cable.

@OllieLoops 3 года назад

Thanks for that info. It sounds like Android is plug and play.

@poorrichard1321 3 года назад

If you dont mind, which adapter are you using? I have a s20 and just bought a 3.1 usb-c adapter and i have no connection.

@OllieLoops 3 года назад

@@poorrichard1321 Hey, in my case, I have an iPhone and I'm using Apple's camera connection kit. But for an Andriod, you should be able to connect via USB-C to the OPZ. I would assume there are some settings on the phone to change to make the OPZ a sound card for the phone. You could also try testing communication via the Android app. Give those a try and let me know if you have any success.

@carlos_martinezzz 3 года назад

@@poorrichard1321 I already had these and worked perfectly. Also I use them to connect a midi keyboard to the OP-Z. www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B01EL4PVFE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XNfLFb5JYN5Q9 I have a budget phone (ZTE Blade V10).

@poorrichard1321 3 года назад

@@OllieLoops I appreciate your response! I feel ive exhausted every setting in this phone. The op-z is showing usb in the app in sample mode, but when monitoring nothing happens like it does when sampling from my laptop. Ive even gone into deeper developer options. My next step is is a usb c to trs adapter (w/ dac), to trrs splitter cable. Ive been at this about 4 or 5 days strait thinking that there has to be a solution. Again, thanks for your help!

@CyberCreeper22 4 года назад

could a usb c to mic input adapter work?

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

good question! I haven't tried it, but if anyone in the community knows, please comment. Thanks

@CyberCreeper22 4 года назад

@@OllieLoops Im going to buy one right now op-z in bag I will report back

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

@@CyberCreeper22 Awesome. Thanks.

@CyberCreeper22 4 года назад

@@OllieLoops update none of the store near me had it Ill need to find someone who has amazon prime but I did have an idea Ill need your help with if you wanna slide into them dms

@jospehbloseph7172 5 месяцев назад

This doesnt seem to work anymore, or a step is missing. When i choose the spot to sample in, following the tutorial, I chose bass (B) and then i hold track and the numbered slots are full, of bass stuff, weird. Something is off

@OllieLoops 5 месяцев назад

Like your sample slots are full?

@jospehbloseph7172 5 месяцев назад

@@OllieLoops it appears so on the bass track. I was able to figure out what i was doing wrong. I just got it Saturday. Thanks for responding, your videos have been helpful.

@samhermans 4 года назад

Heh, just mount op-z in content mode and manage samples from there ? You can use any sound file? Op1.fun ?

@OllieLoops 4 года назад

Although this is possible, I think the point is to sample content within the device. But arguably, dropping samples into the OPZ via computer is relatively convenient and straight forward. Plus you can source plenty of user samples.

@Pedroelgroing 4 года назад

Just use a cheap usb c dongle with mic in like this one, works perfectly and that way you are not blocking the headphone out www.amazon.com/dp/B07KPLDJ18/