OpenAI's Sora Made Me Crazy AI Videos-Then the CTO Answered (Most of) My Questions | WSJ 

Watch the full, wide-ranging interview with OpenAI CTO Mira Murati here: on.wsj.com/3TNv2Mu

The CTO can't talk about where the training data came from...

"I can neither confirm nor deny that we trained on youtube videos"

The fact that she dodged that question about the training data isn't very "Open"AI of her.

I´m so glad this interviewer asked some real questions, Im sick of all the shallow questions over naive smiles. AI can be good, but also dangerous. It´s important we understand how serious it is, and train and use it carefully.

The vagueness of her response about what was used from the CTO shows she definitely knows they’re using copyrighted content imo.

4:50 She's smart enough to know where the models came from and she's hesitant to say because of potential lawsuits.

It's like asking a farmer: - Where do you take your apples from? Do you pick them from trees? - I dont know. If they grow on trees, perhaps yes.

"My prompt for this crab said nothing about a mustache" is the most 2024 sentence ever.

this is a product i made that i am very proud of. i'm the spokesperson of the product and was sent here to speak specificity about the product only. "how did i make my product", you ask? i don't know.

Remember the Super Phrase: *Publicly available data*

Joanna Stern is the best! Love how she grilled her about the training data - super awkward response 😂

The way she dodged over and over the question about the training data, clearly their are not using only publicly available data.

You should’ve asked Sora to make 10 people playing rock paper scissors in fast pace. 😂

I'm not going to lie, I spent half the video with my eyes darting to Mira's hands just to make sure she's real 😅

I cannot express how wild it seems to me that the *CTO* of one of the biggest genAI companies, promoting their latest genAI product couldn't answer what data the model was trained on.

the questions asked in this interview were really good -- concise and hitting all of the important points. thank you for this informative video

As Sora can create "cartoon animation" OpenAI should show their list of animation production companies who have licensed their films to be used in the machine learning model. There's not much animation is available in public domain, especially 3D animation.

The CTO isn't sure if youtube training data was used???

ouch those data training questions hit HARD!

What’s the point of replacing creativity we don’t want to live in a world where nothing is creative

Really good reporting the interviewer asked the correct questions and Mira definitely knows the data they used she does not want to reveal anything because they’ll get crucified

not sure of sources??

ClosedAI

In my 40s now, looking back, I am amazed at the acceleration of technological innovation. It's now it's almost impossible to imagine what computing will be like in just 2-3 years.

They always say AI will change us in good ways and we will be much better but as you know it’s actually gonna go the other way

Really good interview. Grilled her with sensible questions

That interview took a quick turn! Hehehe

basically they “openly” “take” whatever there are available online to train the ai

Yikes that was one bomb of an interview… they are definitely training it on RU-vid/x/fb/ig everything 🤣

4:34 GOLDEN reaction

Hmmmn. The training data issue is going to haunt OpenAI for a while. The law has not caught up with the technology. US Law makers are going to have a tough time with this one.

Let me get this straight: they've created a model that generates videos indistinguishable from reality, and their genius idea to make that distinction is: a watermark! Wow!

will they be using this video as a training to generate a video when the prompt is: did you pay for the data you used?

I stole a car because i saw it on the street and i thought that was public property so by this logic isn't your car publically available for me to use for my own benefit.

This was some incredible reporting. Well done to her;

Thank you for asking about the data! This is what people care about: whether their data was ingested to train profitable AI without our consent.

Uh oh where that data coming from 😂

Lol, wow, that interview turned really sketchy @4:24... 😆

thanks, good job there.

“It’s very difficult to simulate the motion of hands.” Every VFX studio from the last 25 years: “Do I mean nothing to you?”

I feel like a CTO should know where the data came from lol

A powerful Ai tool like Sora, when used with intricate technical prompts, could potentially be susceptible to certain vulnerabilities. Will they be able to deal with this ?

@3:32 Joanna's smug smile here has me cracking up. 😆

I think it's definitely worth trying" ie the profit motive is too great not to.

I can confirm that the models were trained on all data, publicly available, licensed and non-licensed etc.

Reading between the lines and tbe expressions of all the top executives they seem to be saying people are going to be able to do whatever they want

Some of my art was used for training AI - I didn't give permission. I'm not sure where they got them from.

Why was she avoiding answering the source data? They absolutely know since there is only two major parts: the code, and the learning source. She avoided answering about the Shutter deal as well, even though they had a deal with them and later in the interview confirms that. This doesn't look good.

Great interview, thanks. I'm liking the timeframe mentioned....

These are great questions! It’s a bit a shame that interviewer almost didn’t follow up on responses. For instance follow up on “ public” data can be compliance with usage conditions. Follow up on “how distinguish” AI generated content might be question how it’s already done with released products.

Lawsuits incoming

Interesting conversation start at 4:42

It’s a good thing they’ve somewhat broken down to bits and pcs the ‘creativity’ of the AI. Different AI’s for different applications. At the end of the day, it’s business as usual.

Nice, reliable humans making reliable decisions with far reaching consequences. This is how we got here .. and we shall further!

Two smart women having a hard-headed conversation about an extraordinarily important topic. Nice vid.

Good for the interviewer pushing for the source of the data. That was disappointing that the interviewee didn’t seem to know where the data comes from.

she certainly did not expect the question bout the source of the training data..... I wish we had journalists like this in South Africa

SORA exhibits/solicits a human-like inattentional blindness: it produces fluent motion that seems normal at a glance. But upon closer inspection it does stuff that’s as weird as a gorilla walking across the frame (from Chabris and Simon’s famous experiments.)

in a distant future I can imagine cops having to shout "hands! show me your hands! Hands in the air!" for more than one reason

She knows that videos on RU-vid were used as training data. She is not a good liar lol it’s her job to know. OpenAI doesn’t want to get sued, that’s why. Sam Altman likes to move fast. They have the LLM models but they don’t have access to enough data. So they take it without paying for it.

Very beautiful Mira Murati 💖

Where did they get this data to train on? Must be fine. /s

Not going into the details of what trained sora because NYT is currently suing...among others.

People are really trying to find faults in it to cope but honestly the flaws are so minor that you have to notice it extensively (except the hands part) and the model is still in its beta phase so this is literally a game changer

I can literally take watermarked screenshots and get rid of them within 5 minutes because of AI (Which they probably do when they scrape the web for training data).

The CTO mentioned about SORA bringing creativity. I struggle to see where is the creativity beyond getting the right prompt to generate the video you want.

Looking forward to Stable Diffusion eventually doing this. I'd rather not be bound by censorship and would prefer to create locally without subscription and with open models.

CTO: «Sora is based on text prompts». NO! It is NOT. It is based on stolen art. The biggest art robbery in history! And it gets even worse. She pretends (!) that she doesn't know whether they stole from RU-vid creators (which they def did). She talks about "licensed data", as if OpenAI had any official license from the Sponge Bob right holders to feed their wicked machine with their property. I'm so disgusted! She says "publicly available" as if it meant "public domain". Any Disney DVD is pubicly available. Don't mean I can use that data as I please. A CTO that is "not sure" where they stole the data from. Give me a break. Furthermore, she keeps saying their in the very early stages, but keeps emphasizing that it'll be ready in a few months with mosts kinks ironed out. Which one is it now? WSJ: why did you not call this women out?

It is definitely worth it, she is driven, she doesnt care for anything but innovation, seen this on a black mirror episode

She knows, just like everyone else, where the data came from. Being CTO is just hard.

The data fell from one of RU-vid's trucks

"Reliable" as the "Open"AI guys, reliable as a politician, reliable as the most of human egos... Profit, that's the word.

Everything will have to be “taken with a grain of salt” we will have to question everything and trust nothing in the future.

Q: "Videos on youtube?" CTO: "I'm actually not sure about that."

"Im not going to go into the details of the data that was used" = We stole most of the data and wont admit it

The interviewer forgot to ask if Sora can replace her 😂

Thank you for bringing us the greatest meme in the past 4 days.

We are basically taking everythin we can get out hand

Its an open secret OpenAI used a lot of pirated data from "The Eye" for ChatGPT, so i would assume they used a lot of video and movies not youtube.

Wow, she came really unprepared on the data source 😮 That is the number 1 question everyone would ask

The same vibe as "You smuggler, where did you hide those drug" -> "I dont know"

Al + Sora = Job Killer

This is iPad 12.9 or 11?

is AAMAZING

I’d love to be a tester for Sora

Perfect timing release of the best fake video AI maker just in time for the biggest election year in the World

4:34 People are gonna make fun of that answer. However, clearly, the purpose is to dodge, and that answer achieved that.

Now its just waiting for the wistleblower 😂🤭

Of course they've used RU-vid and every other platform where you can upload videos. RU-vid videos are licensed and protected by copyright. Content creators typically retain the copyright to their videos unless they have explicitly licensed them under Creative Commons or other open licenses.

WSJ you should explore the copyright infringement they're doing

the bull is very sweet

If OpenAI’s mission is achieving AGI, what role does generating video play in that? Maybe OpenAI is using the Matrix as its requirements set.

4:32 It makes sense the way she answered it. It's not really a question you can answer honestly. How do you train it? You need everything you can get your hands on.

The data was shady :D

Lawsuits incoming!

How can I tell this whole interview wasn't created also by SORA ? LOL, it's that real

When I was ababy my mom she used take me to work with her there I like to cut the nees pepper pecuter and make story usually I put news pepper in my lap and look at them and used the reazer to cut the pecsuer and books some times but i don't cut them but I use to put magenation on it until one time I see my second older he gets first class in sewming pol which I don't know he swemer .. thank you for all

This is like when people were pointing out all the flaws in the original iPhone.

I wish this interview was more extensive. Love the new worlds that can be created with text to video. Also great new possibilities with 2D to 3D and 3D printing.