Every time I come back and watch this battle I still think MT Pop should have won. He was grooving harder, connecting hits on beat, and had cool unique tuts, all with a standout style of his own.
MT Pop is on a whole 'notha level!! As of 2019, there is no one that comes close from his creativity to his flawless transitions. He makes it look effortless. Even when he's hyped, he never compromises his smoothness. This guy is one of the most humble and respectful competitors. Excited to see what else he'll be adding to his massive arsenal in the following years.
Lmao slim is the goat as of 2020 and most of the poppers know that. put slim boogie in the same team as any of the great poppers like kite bruce greenteck mtpop gucchon, you name it. eventually they will run out of moves and slim will have `20 more rounds to go
I would love to see these two in a team battle together. MT is my absolute favorite right now. Together I think they would be a dope duo. Props to both dancers.
In my opinion, I think the bay area style is still new to the judges. It's a possibility that they were overthinking things a lot while judging. Not to discriminate or anything, but these are international judges. If it was up to judges from the US or someone who's been exposed to both styles, they would've chosen MT Pop. But that's just my opinion and oh btw, this style fits so well with MT Pop. He looks like he was born and raised in the bay, especially in San Jose. (We got Vietnam town in the eastside lol)
If he learns more about bay boog from the Oakland Boogaloo OGs, Harry Berry, PopLock, etc. I'm pretty sure he'll be one of the few poppers you don't want to battle. Even though he's already a monster as he is. lol
Tai exactly. I wouldn't say got the bay boog right not, but it wouldn't take much :) killing it. Honestly don't understand why Artshow won even tho he's also very good
I think personally would have like to see a round 3. But just going off the two rounds I feel like MT edged out cause of the first round. Second round both of them did really well.
But strut is also not only style that can deserve to win. All styles have different beauty for me. I do strut, tutting, boppin , animations and also EB flava. Just respect judgee decision. If you don't like the judges don't join. That's it
MT should be the winner . Although artshow has had some good but that is not enough. MT dominated this match with so many great combo. And yes, i agree that if this match was at the US , it would be different
Because this was in China I feel the judging (if the judges were Chinese) was rewarding ArtShow because of his appearance along with the fact he can dance. MT Pop was the winner to me but I do know in China appearance is a thing. The more clean and civilized you look the better in most cases. Props to both dancers though
Looks like everyone believes MT was robbed. I think the location and the judges having a bias towards Art led to his win, but none of that should matter.
MT seems more of an allstyles battler. If you know high level and more true to roots popping and boogaloo, you'd see artshow really encapsulating that original popping feel. I can see how the judges want to preserve that history
That the problem, E lectric boogaloo is not the only popping style, MT pop using bay area strutting style. The judge is 90 % EBs. If this battle happen in US the result will be different
@@noikfkzn5305 disagree, judges might do EB but they are also high level animators (guccon & kei) which should favor MT i didn't say artshow is doing electric boogaloo, he is preserving the original styles of popping and boogaloo (oakland/fillmore/EB). his moves are high level foundation like twistos, rolls, hits, toyman, while grooving inside those foundations. MT here is showing a lot of hip-hop based moves, funky influence from locking, and strutting. unfortunately, strutting kind of simplifies a lot of MT's techniques and he has to make up for it with highly creative tuts and animation.
wow what a robbery that was. I get Artshow is a student of EB but even as such he couldn't match the groove MT had. MT has groove in his bones, that kat can boogie for real.
I much preferred MT first round, but much preferred Artshow's second round. I felt MT gets corny sometimes and it takes away from his dance. I loved his first round with the coat bite and the string waving. But Artshow was much better second round imo. didn't feel MT at all that round. So honestly not surprised by the decision. To me it wasn't clear cut. Could go another round, could go to MT, but it went to artshow. No complaints from me.
Art show 2nd round where he did the spin was horrible. Energy was not high. He didn't go with the vibe of the song either. His technique was way lower. One thing I can give to him is that he got his ground move game over MT (maybe)
Damn. Wish I knew Japanese so I could understand what Artshow was saying at the end there. If anyone could please translate, that would be rad. Oh, and MT Pop FTW
Jonathan Porter Artshow is from Taiwan and what he said was Chinese. He literally said that he loves Taiwan and why he decided to dress up like that was because he wanted to look cool to show his respect for the country he battled in.
Lol i know MT lost from the start when i see the judge panel except gucchon. Like TF all of the judge except gucchon of the judge is EBs. Especially walid, this man proud of his style. If this battle happen in us, the result will different
What I want to say now is from the moment I enter the scene. Everyone must listen carefully. I am on my way to find my own. I have been away for a long time, and now I find my way. I found that Taiwanese are really amazing.fucking have some confident guys ! then I want to explain why I want to wear this. When you have the chance to battle in the France or the United States, you will want to wear it very well, because you respect the activity, and I fucking respect this place(Taiwan), I love Taiwan.
Arte effect had more feeling but mt pop got originality And fundation. I dindt want to see art effect lose but mt pop won not by much. Arte effect is dope bit needs more angles and moves. Mt going for the green slim hoan status Ps: WALID=HATER!
He told Taiwanese dancers to be more confident themselves Bcuz Taiwanese dancers usually don't think that they can be compare to other countries but Taiwanese dancers are good actually! don't look down yourself! also he said he wore that suit specially Bcuz he respect this event like if you go to some place like formal occasion you will dress up this is about etiquette
I kind of understand why the judges gave it to Artshow. It's coz he was more funky in general and did something cool with tuts on the second round and felt the music in a more funky way. MT pop was very technical and creative and musical here and I do believe he should have won coz he was more entertaining to watch than Artshow but perhaps the judges were tired of seeing MT Pop just doing strutting and tutting every round of this competition o.O
MT danced in a cool and funny way, Artshow in a gentle and gorgeous way. imo they both have good groove, flavor, logic but judges gave it to Artshow because he has more style transfer.
Shan Shin mt pop was funky. We cannot say art show was more funky. If people here believe that mt pop wasn’t funky, then they truly do not understand west coast styles
