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I still can't believe civilization fails it matter of days sorry

How would the Disney parks and universal studios deal in the walking dead? Along with Disney animal kingdom

@@ianperez4884 in all honesty they’d probably still try to charge you lol

@@Swell-Films lol

He would have witnessed a lot more.The one part World War Z is definitely impressive.Why I would love to see a tales from Walking Dead set on the Iss.Same for what would it be like for the Navy.Would they be called in or still be out to sea.

@@anthonykrutis490 did you see Dead in the Water? Cool version of events on a nuclear sub.

This was already covered in WWZ (not the totally shite film).

Where did the picture of the fesr the walking dead family with a military soldier in camp of tenta come from? And the information and picture of lincoln nebrasca?

It's kinda depressing to think that he saw the world go dark and then suddenly boom with light and then had to watch the lights slowly die out and then never come back on

To be fair, they are kinda just walking skeletons by season 6 lol

Doesnt the virus slow down decomposition?

@alexstrejc3004 I don't know how a virus can stop a maggot from having a meal

@blackaddam9033 it's made up to explain stuff in that universe they are decaying slower. Scientists said if zombies ever existed they'd be gone in 1 year.

Same goes for how fuel is still around too but who cares zombies arent real either

Self-inflict genocide for the ⭐ A e s t h e t i c ⭐

Guy: hey is that a- *Kaboom*

Govt ordered the military to do that idiocy.

@@RandallBesch How is that idiotic? At that point they believed no cure is possible and urban centers were exactly that. Centers. The locations where *the most* of them were. Dropping napalm and other bombs is the only logical decision at that point, otherwise you end up with what we see in a later season of TWD (the "flooded" construction site / quarry with thousands of thousands of zombies) or what we have in "World War Z". An unstoppable flood of undead rushing out of the cities. As brutal as it sounds to burn down the cities or city centers, it's the only thing they could do

@@FrankENFeld-ow6lh Most of the show was idiotic, from the safe zone in the middle of LA to the blind bombing of the citys center . Hey guess where are the dead ? On the ground . Guess from where the bomb come from ? From planes in the sky . Guess what is between the dead and the bomb in citys center ? MASSIVE SKYSCRAPPER . Even if you think it should have been done, it was, like everything done be the army in FEAR, completly botched . The city skyscraper got hit, but the street are barelly damaged, indicating that most bomb didn't hit them

Brother

project zomboid reference

haha my man out ere with the Project Zomboid Reference

Don't be ridiculous. The Knox Infection is contained. The Knox Infection has ALWAYS been contained.

Well I guess the government is in the bunkers and s***f****** female federal prisoners in return if they want to survive blah blah blah. Play it reminds me of that short-lived TV series with Luke Perry in which he played a child of immune to the virus here comes the government coming out of their bunkers and s*** wearing hazmat suit telling the crowd that this is no legal gathering blah blah blah the United States government hasn't been heard of for almost 3 years and now all of a sudden the United States government is back as soon as they tried to assemble and start a brand new government in a football stadium believable.

That’s a valid reason, good call

Yea, and just in general, they can be dangerous tbh. Maybe it isn't ethical, but it's reasonable

@@TrePrincelike the Israeli Government?

@@thatarsebye bye Palestine

@@thatarse Anddd you people always bringing palestine into shit it doesnt have to be they doomed themselves big deal, cant expect an attack against israel to have a different result than any of the other ones over the years

Seriously. That’s what tales of twd should have been

Fear the Walking Dead started out that way but they fast forwarded to Operation Colbalt and the fall by the end of season one. They should have teased Colbalt coming over two seasons,then had the immediated post fall survival stories on the Abigail off the California coast and the Mexico story arch take up season 3. Make the Otto Ranch story most of season 4 and bring in the Proctors.Season 5 should have been the Clarks and their allies waging a war with the Proctors that would take events from California/Northern Mexico to Texas.

That is called lazy and uncreative show writing.

@@TheLAGopherright!??! When Chris says 'nine days since the lights went out' we said wait what!?! Its skipping past those first days!?! Just wrong

this comment is spot on 👍

Remember though they had a competent president who held the entire thing together his choice to push forward against all advice was pivotal

I'd hardly call World War Z realistic. The battle of yonkers in particular was atrocious

@@katiacritten9975 that was the whole point, that's fairly standard for our Army, we very much are as a country are built around knock out wins and Shock and Awe. they have a whole part dedicated about the realistic tole of getting our asses handed to us.

@Godzilla-sp9ew the whole point can be wrong. The book explicity lays the defeat at the feet of "cold warrior" generals who tried to fight the engagement like the zombies were soviets invading Western Europe. To Max Brooks I guess that means "one static line of defense where we start shooting when the enemy is in visual range of the infantry. With one minute of artillery ammo and a single salvo of MLRS rockets" The US strategy against the USSR in the cold war would have been fantastic against zombies. It was focused around multiple established defensive positions that get withdraw and reinforce the one behind it once the enemy gets too close. Except when it comes to zombies then they wouldn't even have to worry about hostile air power or enemy armor or artillery deployed minefields and shit. The US army is built for shock and awe and knockout victories? Alrighty then, why the hell was their *only* axis of attack the force in yonkers that only engaged when the infantry could see the zombies? The horde stretched from yonkers to time square, why were there not constant A10 strafing runs of that horde? Why were there not flights of AC130s drive bying the horde with a guns? Why were there no B52s dropping topography changing levels of ordinance? And don't even get me started on the ridiculous claim that the igniting car gas tanks caused a ludicrous increase in lethality such to the point that the artillery guns and MLRS systems became basically useless without them. Max Brooks wants to talk about "steel rain", that's what the Iraqi army called the shells from the M270. Those things explode and then kick out a 33.5 meter tungsten blizzard from hell. Nothing human adjacent is walking through that. And on the topic of the infantrymen. The whole "you can't just expect someone to pull of perfect headshots after training them to go for the body all this time." thing is ridiculous. If they knew they had to shoot for the head, they'd shoot for the head. In Afghanistan in 2004 the US was being investigated for war crimes because international observers kept finding headshot insurgents and thought the US was executing POWs. Turns out that lots of times that was all the insurgent showed, so that's what got shot. TLDR: Max Brooks didn't know what the hell he was talking about, a lot of people assume he did and treat it like legitimate insightful criticism of the military, and it really gets my goat.

​@katiacritten9975 that concluding point also becomes apparent when you read his zombie survival guide and get to the part on guns. Its factual accuracy on the nature of firearms is...bad, to put it politely

Couldve used white phosphorus

Even dumber if everyone who dies reanimates. Not like in world war z where ukraine used nerve gas on fleeing refugees to identify the infected

@@bad_pilot13official unless they are carbonized they will reanimate.

The plot writes itself, these writers are clueless. The plot after the CDC should've been an expansion on Cobalt with a group of elites attempting to nuke the planet and Rick and the crew trying to stop them

Id figured it was to burn the walkers but they're the chance lots could survive I don't imagine napalm being strong enough to destroy structures depending on the structure atleast tho idk what cities were nuked

It was a guy in South Africa in World War Z.

He came up with the plan but everyone else then adopted it. If youre gonna be a know it all do it right

@@chingoputoh7969 If you're going to cry about it want to explain how that invalidates anything that I wrote down? Or did you just want to chime in with one irrelevant detail to show less than a dozen people you don't know that you read a book once too?

@@FA_Horus oh cool! Yeah sorry it's probably been more than a decade since I read wwz lol this part always stuck out to me but over the years some details for sure got mixed up in there

It's the redecker plan named after a former apartheid official Paul redecker who developed it.

Okafor Is technically the only character to appear in every main show except daryl Dixon (cuz we see atlanta, LA and Lincoln being bombed which technically as he said he was a part of)

Weed 😂

yea probably from commonwealth, portland, campus colony, and omaha

Good soldiers follow orders, private?

He never said he was the only one. But it's clear the city of Philadelphia is probably the most succesful community in the USA since the apocalypse started. I doubt there is any other group as large as the Civic Republic.

@@Thesolegod Greater ones follow the right ones.

My guess is that lots of other military groups did do this. If so, I’m guessing that the main reasons they’re gone now would be that they either had too many people to keep under control, too small of a population to sustain themselves, had leadership that was unwilling to sacrifice morals for survival, had leadership that was unable to sustain order, or these groups were just not strong enough to resist other factions like the crm.

Same question here. We also have to include Guam and Pearl Harbor

Lots of spam.

It's also likely that the President was evaced there considering that fact. Oahu specifically has Fort Shafter, Wheeler Army Airfield, Schofield Barracks, Pearl, Marine Corps Hawai'i and dozens of National Guard armories. I'm willing to bet that it is either still standing or fell within like a wekk

Its possible hawaii survived , however, they wouldnt be able to make contact with the continent , as they were extremely far away .

@@FA_Horus Mt. Weather or Iron Mountain.

I mean, roombas are from 2002, and it seems the first fully electric car that could drive at highway speeds might have been 2009/2010

Thanks mate! Glad you enjoyed!

@watchawantfool or The Walking Dead: New York - Big Apple at the first Days of the Outbreak, that must be the hell...😱

Chicago was close to being nuked. Wonder why Chicago specifically though maybe it's filled with Variants

@@StarmercGaming that’s what Tales Should have been about it should had shown the fall of different States like Texas New York Florida Illinois Arizona Nevada Oregon Michigan Alabama Mississippi Washington Oklahoma Kansas and Washington DC

@@Tejano12398 That would be epic. I wait since a long time for something like that. Maybe 2-4 Episodes about different Cities & different Persons. For exampel: Washington DC - 2 Episodes about a Capitol Police Officer, 2 Episodes about an Nurse. And then the Series switch to another City & show us 2 another Characters.

Can’t help but think about O Block walkers

Though they actually succeeded with Amy right before the Twelve and Zero escaped.

I submit it was an incomplete super virus to make humans more resilient and less death prone. It got out and was airborne. Why the walking dead are so resilient.

Might be the most realistic part of the series though

In stories like 28 days later and sprinting infected sure, I can understand, but TWD ? The country spending the highest millitary spending in the world would fail against slow shambling ones ? Ok clearly there's panic in the first days/ week, but I feel they could actually fight back

@@sylvananas7923 That's how it went down in World war z there was panic at the start, the military learned a harsh lesson but eventually the surviving countries adapted and began to retake their countries. Slow-moving zombies are not much of a threat once you get past the initial stages. Fast runners are much better for a story if you want the world to go to hell and not recover, for example in the series dead set the writers went with fast zombies as they were the only way Britain would be overrun so quickly.

It's been called grimderp, from 40k where new writers would come and explain how things are only bad because the people in charge are uniformly stupid. Appropriate here too.

@@jakkuhl6223 40k writing is terrible

It's more likely Oahu considering the 7th Fleet, 3rd Marine Division, 25 ID and all the support behind them. More than enough to defend the island if you include the Hawaii Guard, and every other unit in the Pacific being pulled back

Remember, if the government and military did what they would competently do IRl, we wouldn't have a show.

@@GeneralPhanter fair comment

​@carlosjaundoo3188 also Okafor was with the US Air force and not the crm at the time , so it wasn't his overall decision but the presidents he was acting on orders til the unfortunate downfall of his wife and defied orders to bomb the rest of the cities he was told to bomb. If I remember correctly

Evacuate, plunder, nuke.

@@GeneralPhanter do you mean that they would kill all the civilians or that they wood do a really good job of cleaning out the dead

What’s Padra?

​​@@JarodFarrant Pink Apples Donuts Registration Act

@@JarodFarrant i guess he meaned FEDRA in the Last of us series

@@thanhdanhnguyen5258I think they meant PADRE?

We already have COG.

It's a combination of the dead and the panicked living that caused the downfall. Living were keeping everyone distracted while the dead just got larger in population

​@@FA_Horusjust a day after the outbreak started , martial law was declared in all the US, state and federal troops were deployed to deal with the infected , so chaos shouldn't have been too much of a factor for the downfall , the military would put everything in order , and people would be quarentined at their homes , and would receive guide lines on how to deal with an infected .

honestly I think Night of the Living Dead would probably be pretty accurate. After the initial shock of seeing reanimated corpses being revived wore off they would pretty easily be dealt with. In the movie local people with minimal support local police & National Guard are able to handle the situation.

It would show how much panic there was. Same as the LA Riots in Fear The Walking Dead.

The humans would need to adapt a new way of sustaining itself and fight. In twd and world war z alike militarys faced catastrophic defeats due to fighting the undead the way they fought each other before. Highly overengineered tanks with a few rounds capacity are useless if you cannot maintain them and keep a steady flow of logistics. Using tightly packed pike and shot formations or infantry sqares with enough small arms ammo or backup meelee weapons like bayonets would become relevant again. Even if the dead are defeated still billions would starve without mass farming and industrial production of nitrate fertilizers. The loss of the industrial scale haber-bosh method would be more deadly than the undead

Reason why it was done.

Twd world beyond and daryl dixon explains how it happened , it started in france in a biotech lab , apparently wildfire was originally planned to be some sort of genetic modified virus or organism that would make humans stronger ( basically trying to create a super soldier ) , it was a collab between the CDC and INSERM ( france's version of the CDC).

If you lived in Georgia at the time, there will be chances that you would be friends with Carl Poppa and become the gingerbread boy that he hurt

The virus is in the air, usually submarines emerge for activities in the same way they use sea water through filters to make it drinkable and the water has oxygen so they could have been infected there

Yes thank you for the correction, sometimes my wires get crossed when writing on American Armed Forces as I am Canadian, but I’ll double check my scripts in the future

@@Swell-Films fun fact, the marines started out as part of the Navy but then became their own branch.

@@XxreadingaddictionxX Fun Fact in 1950 Truman wanted to return the Marines to the Navy.

@@RandallBesch that's kind of hilarious.

show writers seem to think that the military's effective range is that of an M-16. Insane to think about the sheer amount of artillery & air delivered ordnance that pummel aimless hoards of zombies.

I’m definitely looking to move into content discussing the state of specific places in the country! I did one on New York City about a week ago, and I’m currently working on one discussing the current state of Texas, but I’ll definitely consider doing a lightning round type video on all 50 states!

@@Swell-Films Yep, you could include notable characters from those states, notable events, etc, i think it would be cool.

You could use the map from the ones who live intro to give some background aswell especially as the nuke map is shown

Right!

Mexico was in fear

There is no book about china. Only about spain.

@@leonidaspereirafilho499 TWD Typhoon is about China

@@topsdaily_productionsOh wow, I feel stupid, Im sorry, I honestly did not know about that. I knew there were the books about the government (prequels and sequels) but I didnt know about this book about china. Thank you.

The only country I could legit see surviving is Australia. Not because everything is trying to kill you, but because they practically tamed the land in terms of figuring out how to survive. I also like the idea of saltwater Crocs doing their thing to walkers

Dude my birthday was in September 10 2010 when operation Cobalt ended I was born in September 10 2003

Look it up under Op COG.

Thanks mate!

Doubt it

Riding on zombies

Happened 6 days before my 7th birthday too, would've been a scary time to be a kid

@@bladepvpz3015 I was living in Mexico at the time but my dad was living in Texas

Yeah I was 7 that would be scary for any child

@@xxbluecolt420xx2 am sacred on what happened to my dad since teddy launched the Missiles and Destroyed Half of Texas and I still don’t know if he survived the beginning of the apocalypse in 2010

@@xxbluecolt420xx2 honestly I feel bad for the 2010 generation since they never got to see modern technology or social media apps nor the classes of 2010

Tbf the "legitimate" US government is comprised exclusively out of 70+ year olds. I don't see them lasting long even with military protection in the apocalypse.

Cry

Its just because people turn when they die so you get the zombies under raps and then an old lady has heart attack and starts the outbreak all over

Everyone didn't get the full lowdown on the effects of the infection why suddenly a group of walkers could eventually overrun a submarine or base.

What about alexandria , hilltop or ocean side ? They were gated communities with Electricity , water , food and meds , then they were annexed by the commonwealth , and people in the commonwealth live how they used to before the outbreak and maintained democracy .

That actually make sense.

Highest density and those that have international airports. Makes perfect sense for Atlanta, LA, New York, Chicago, Denver, Seattle, and all those that were mentioned. Only one that I legit want to know how it fell is Birmingham

@@FA_Horus how nice blind genocide by our own soldiers.

Barack Obama was president at the time

There'd be no need to burn the cities. Zombies come towards you, making no move to hide

Cobalt was the troops murdering everyone. Op Sunshine was the city bombings.

Not about this he didn't.

Yes we know for a fact the virus went global. Evident from season 1 episode 6, where dr. Jenner tells the group the French we’re the last country to hold out before going silent. In fear season 3 (I believe) Victor strand talks to a Russian cosmonaut who claims to be watching the whole world burn. And of course, the daryl Dixon show, which takes place in France.

@@Swell-Films you should do a video about the Fall of Mexico since Mexico was in fear the Walking dead it’s still unknown if Mexico City Fell to the Dead it’s likely that Mexico fell but since Mexican Cities Didn’t get bomb or evacuated it’s possible that there could be survivors in Mexico there’s no mention on what happened to the President of Mexico

In comic universe of TWD, Spain and Europe, Japan, Korea and China got affected by apocalypse as shown in Mobile Games and Novel

CDC at the last 2 episodes of first season.

@@RandallBesch I remember that, I just want tell what happened to world in Twd Comic universe

I believe that was just a fallen satellite if I remember correct

There’s a clarification note at 5:35 , the city received minor damage from the national guard fighting back (mostly just the tops of skyscrapers from what we see) but survived overall

Yea, it could've been misfire missiles from Air-to-air combat.

No it was because zombies doesn’t exist in the TWD Universe

​@@Tejano12398Even if Zombies didnt exist riots, rally and IJA banzai charges of WW2 fame would have easily hinted on how to stop it

@@Tejano12398 Zombies don't turn cannibal either.

@@gotanon9659 walk up to them and spear them through the head with bayonets and save the ammo.

I feel bad for the 2010 Generation

It's not just the dead that you have to compete with, it's the panic of the living. That's what caused a lot of problems for the military once you start noticing it. They had to split resources to keep civilians safe as well as eliminating the dead

It would immobilize them at least by melting them to the ground if the force of the explosion didn't put them down first

It would have killed them within a minute

@@gotanon9659 we've seen them still alive. I wonder if fully feeding them they would regenerate and become fully alive again.

Evil is what it was treating humans like animals kill them all if there is an infection.

I agree tbh. Part of the reason it’s so messy is because there has been so many different creative minds at the helm over the years, everything from how the zombies behave, to how the world came to fall have been slightly changed over time. To their credit, they do seem to be moving in a reclamation direction with the CRM which is nice

In the Comics the Commonwealth was on the way to reclamation, and by the end of the series the "Grimes Group" has indeed restablished the former USA on the east cost andbeyond, altough in a very precarioua manner and were going to contact a similar "statelet" in California and the surroounding area.

To be fair, society collapsing to zombies rarely makes sense in any store with that scenario. Even World War Z had to come up with convoluted reasons as to why zombies could somehow overrun people with tanks. Outside of an airborne or waterborne virus, zombies wouldn't pose much of a threat to any organized fighting force.

They were only confused when they were overrun.

Shaun of the Dead.

World War Z books

​@@olafjansowidz World War Z was laughed by most military because it didn't portray high command accurately. Some aspects were right like making everybody wear MOPP gear, but most of it was grossly inaccurate

@@FA_Horus whatever nerd

@@olafjansowidz Yes, I am a nerd. No, I will never be ashamed of it