Sound really is important - you don't get that same impact without the speakers suddenly bursting with the sound of one of humanity's defining moments, praised and damned as it is. It was great to behold in theaters, best Christopher Nolan film I've seen.
The greatest moments of tension in films like Dunkirk and Oppenheimer are conveyed through sound alone instead of speech or visual effects. And he seems to tailor those sounds to take maximum advantage of movie speakers. The sound of the bomb, the stomping of feet by the other scientists, the howl of a diving Stuka, or the crack of rifle bullets piercing the metal hull of a ship. All these resonate inside your body in the theater creating a sense of unease.
@thirdcoinedge I found it even better at home with the Dolby Vision and surround sound with the Sonos Arc and base. Great film. Doesn't really need 4k IMO or IMAX. The real star of this film are the performances and Zimmers score. Some superb acting.
I saw it in a theater with IMAX yet I found this scene disappointing. With actual footage of Trinity available, as a guide, maybe Nolan should’ve made use of the latest CGI. The acting, cinematography and pacing was superb. But….that’s just my opinion.
As a VFX artist I feel the need to chime in here. Like another commenter said, Nolan absolutely should have used CGI in this scene. After concurring with a handful FX TD’s, and really just anyone who works in the industry. It becomes abundantly clear that the practical explosion in this movie looks exactly like what it is; a weak gasoline explosion. Compared to what it should be, and the actual footage of the trinity test detonation, I truly believe that anyone who’s actually scene footage of an atomic blast would be extremely underwhelmed by this in the theatre. The entire time I was sat in the theatre waiting 2 hours for this immense buildup to this moment, I was baffled at how “meh” the explosion looked. If you were a junior FX artist in a studio working on an atomic blast, and you were given reference of what the trinity test looked like, and then had to recreate it in Houdini, (the industry standard program for simulation {i.e. Water, Smoke, Fire}), if you were to show the explosion that made it in the final movie to your supervisor, I can *GUARANTEE* you that everyone above you would say it needs way way way more refining and tweaking before it looks like an actual atomic explosion. I really do feel like it took me out of the movie. And then to hear afterwards that a bunch of VFX artists who worked on Oppenheimer simply weren’t credited at all?Doesn’t surprise me. Nolan is a great filmmaker don’t get me wrong, and I really liked Oppenheimer, however, he’s a massive culprit of going the “Oh, it’s all practical” route, and having it negatively effect the end product of the film. Another great example of this was Dunkirk. The beach scenes were great, but they felt especially empty at points, and if you compare the actual numbers of soldiers and displaced citizens who were fleeing France at the time, the difference between the film and real life is staggering. Nolan wanted a practical approach where all the actors on the beach were real and not duplicated CG set extensions. Obviously it’s nearly impossible to have hundreds of thousands of extras standing on the beach, so these scenes absolutely would have benefited from CG. Probably the worst part of being a VFX artist is that when your work is the absolute best it can be, no one notices. Unless it’s something that’s obviously not real like a monster or an environment on another planet. Invisible CG is exactly what it is, invisible. I highly suggest anyone interested in this issue go watch this video: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7ttG90raCNo.html
How was it shown accurately? It took literally exactly a whole more minute than that (from the first flash of the explosion to the shockwave hitting them, 1 minute and 40 seconds)...?
1:10: "These things are hard on your heart." Almost felt like a fourth wall break to the viewer, I could feel my heart beating in my ears during the countdown.
@@user-kj4pr2jx4g yeah but it’s not hard on his heart. Where is it written or stated that he said this to himself in real life?? It makes the movie crap.
I truly love when you get to the last second, with all the music build up and climax, the music and climax stops. It feels as if a moment of relief but also experiencing the the tense moment release
The 20 or so minute buildup from assembling the bomb to detonation is some of the tensest cinema I have ever had the pleassure of watching on the big screen.
Yeah, compared to just that, the explosion itself, at least visually, was rather underwhelming. Not to mention that it looked nothing like a nuclear explosion... But hey, at least it was practical.
My grandfather, Staff Sgt Joe Gluck Jr. was actually there. He talked about this all of his life. He said his barracks was woken up and told to go outside and put on dark glasses and look towards where the bomb went off. He said no one knew what it was. They thought the sun was coming up in the west. He had to be screened for cancer all of his life. He lived to be 98 years old. This scene made his story come to life for me. Thank you for this clip!
Just a quick reminder, the movie has a lot of CGI. While it doesn't feature any full CGI scenes, it obviously includes many computer-generated effects. The same applies to all movies that claim to have no CGI scenes, such as Top Gun, Mission: Impossible, any Scorsese, Tarantino, or Nolan movie...
The scene of the soldiers celebrating seems highly realistic to me. What the bomb meant to them was that the war would probably be over soon without an invasion of Japan being necessary.
One of my uncles had been in the army during ww2, but he never saw combat because he had been part of the force that was being assembled for the invasion of Japan. One time, at a family gathering, he talked about how all the men in his unit had celebrated when they'd heard about Hiroshima. At the time, my teenage self thought that this was very crass and deplorable, but I think that I understand it more now. The surrender of Japan (after the atomic bombs -- and after the Soviet invasion of Manchuria) prevented the invasion of Japan, which would have cost hundreds of thousands of lives, both American and Japanese. War is hell, whether the killing is done by atomic bombs or by bullets.
The Atomic bomb didn't end the war. According to "Atomic Diplomacy: Hiroshima and Potsdam" written by historian Gar Alperovitz, Japan suffered 66 strategic bombings within the past 7 months, some were even more destructive than Hiroshima and Nagasaki, to the extent that the Japanese government have become numb to such airstrikes. Plus, the Japanese already had intel that US was developing WMD. So, Hiroshima didn't come to them as a striking event. What really crushed their morale was the Soviet declaration of war, this was the last straw that brought down the Empire of Japan.
@@user-qg9kn5ev8d Debatable. They knew they were going to lose no matter what (as if sinking half their carrier fleet in 10 minutes at Midway wasn’t convincing enough). They lost more people during the firebombing of Tokyo. They were looking for a way to save face so they attributed their surrender to a “new and cruel bomb”. What percent of their decision was the bomb and what percent was the Soviet Union entering the war we’ll never know.
This Planet has destroyed itself many times over in the various time-loops, including through virus outbreaks, etc. Not just nuclear weapons explosions.
Fun fact - light travels faster than taste. So half an hour later when Oppenheimer starts pushing his tongue around his mouth is an accurate representation of when the taste of the atomic bomb finally hits!
The woman sitting next to me in the theaters cell phone went off during this scene during the silent part. It took her almost 10 seconds to shut it off 😡
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I remember getting anxiety during this scene in the theater. Like I legit almost had a panic attack because of how well the tension is built in this scene with the music, acting, and pacing.
It was perfectly built up and executed. There's sounds like a mixed in geiger counter before, buzzing, then this, and Nolan didn't overdo some dramatic CGI explosion. Just a practical effect. If it had been some insane Godzilla style wrecking that some wanted, it would've ruined this as a movie. Lawrence and Teller's reactions of just 'phew damn' sell it the most to me.
I suffer from Generalized Anxiety Disorder and had multiple panic attacks throughout my life. This was the ONLY time it happened because of a movie, I almost had to leave the room. Hands closing, dry mouth, lightheaded. Insane.
Yep. Sometimes my arms will spaz out as a way to vent excessive energy and I was absolutely tweaking the hell out in the theater, my anxiety through the roof
There’s such a brief little shot at 0:39 that shows the steel tower with lights on it as just a tiny speck in the middle of the desert. It simultaneously shows the enormity of the moment and the insignificance of our own ambitions. It’s probably my favorite shot in the movie.
Not sure how it shows the “insignificance of our own ambitions”? If anything it shows the enormity of our ambitions, turning something tangible into something that’s a million times larger.
@@flashyturnip7730 Nah, because the different groups were all spaced at different distances. That's why the earth-shaking blast in the bunker is just a little pressure wave further out at Groves' group, and it's just a faint echo out at the car.
@@HowlingWolf518 I agree and understand all this. What fucks up the scene is that the bunker is so close to the tower and it takes way too long for the shockwave to hit them. Even the explosion size from the view window is all wrong. It's just an oversight, I guess it didn't bother most people, but it just killed it for me
Isn't this the pinnacle scene of the movie? I haven't watched it but I would hope that it gave some kind of reaction. People have told me if you dont know shit about physics then the movie will be boring af.
I love how the tower had all the lights and electronics to signal the detonator was primed. All that shit got turned to plasma and scattered into the wind as if it had never existed.
This scene in the movie nails the physics accurately. Light is way faster than sounds. That's why there is a delay for about 30-40 secs before the sound explosions.
Well that single simple fact (probably everyone knows about sound delay lol) doesn't make it remotely accurate. The scale, coloring, light emitted, all is wrong.
People keep on saying this, now that it's finally out digitally and people can see clips on RU-vid - then how in the world can you not check the time?? I knew I was right in the cinema that it felt way longer than the 40 seconds it took in real life, and just look at the time in the player, it took 1 minute and 40 seconds for the shockwave to hit them from the first glimpse of the explosion... So over twice as long than real life. In this video it's at 2:08 to 3:48, look for yourself, please.
Dude, it's a movie. They're telling a story and they used creative license to make it more suspenseful. Who cares if it's not 100% accurate to real life?
I loved the movie but couldn’t help but feel extremely let down by this explosion. The hyped it up that the explosion was all practical but in turn it really just didn’t do an actual nuclear explosion justice. They should of used CGI along with the practical effects to give it the devastation it properly wields. Look up actual footage of a nuclear blast to see what I’m talking about you can tell that this is just a practical explosion
Seems like everyone was waiting for this scene in 4k, the video literally got over 100k in a single week and the other one got over a million, that's a first for me, I didn't think I would reach so many people.
Alot of ppl thinking the bomb is underwhelming, but when you seen it in IMAX and the sound system IMAX has, the shock wave from the bomb, it felt like the theater was rumbling and shaking. Pure cinema
Nolan has repeated the mistake of Dunkirk again. The explosion is too small for the trinity test level just like there were barely few thousand people on the beaches in Dunkirk. In the pursuit of not using CGI, Nolan misses these(perhaps deliberately) misses these thigs.
Remember, this was just a BABY bomb. I trained to carry the B-16-13 on the Strike Eagle I flew for 20 years and its yield is 24 times more powerful. Isn't technology wonderful?
@@Nyldrift I bet the normal theatre experience was also very good. In fact, aside from the bomb scene, my theatre was loud to the point of making much of the movie unenjoyable.
Sadly i was disappointed with the 70 mm showing. And this explosion scene. I guess i just built it up to this crazy movie set piece in my head. IMO Dunkirk benefited WAY more from the 70mm and Imax audio than this movie. Just my two cents. Still enjoyed the movie for sure
@@ramirof1986 There was a lot of rapid cutting between the 1.43 and 2.20 shots in the same scenes which I think kinda made me feel the same. They're still stunning, but the full frame IMAX shots were implemented a bit more smoothly in his previous films imo, usually relegated to entire sequences without too much switching.
An underrated moment of this scene, for me at least, is at 4:10. Very ominous seeing Teller looking up at the explosion with a smile, as we all know he would go on to make something that was 1000x worse
Beirut explosion was just 1.1 kilotons of TNT. Nolan could've simply just stockpiled TNT in an open desert and filmed it safely with no actors. Then have a rear projection of that film so his actors can stand behind the "explosion" and act. That's all practical and no CGI required.
@@ColombianThunder2:09 is really bad too. With a real nuke it’s like an orb of plasma that instantly expands in a fraction of a second. You can see this in the real trinity footage and countless other nuke recordings. The one in the movie looks like a normal explosion, and spreads out nothing like a nuke would irl. I love the movie but watch any actual footage and this one looks like a complete joke.
Yeah im not so sure about them using real explosions. When looking at 3:00 it seems to small, not bright enough on the surrounding, and the bushes in front seem bigger compared to the explosion size.
It's because you're used to seeing clips of other nukes; Godzilla, memes, Wolverine etc. Those are later bombs such as the hydrogen Tsar Bomba which had a MUCH larger blast and mushroom cloud. They were done in daylight so you see the clouds move and in city scapes so the buildings crumble and you get a better sense of scale. This was at night and in the desert so it's flat and you've no clouds moving to show the power of it. Also this was only the first one, a prototype. And those aren't bushes. To me that looks like the shockwave.
"What, if anything, did Georgia Green "see" that day? Ms. Green passed away in the mid-1980s, but accounts from interviews with her and her relatives can be used to form a reasonable explanation. First off, in 1989 Rolf Sinclair from the National Science Foundation visited with Georgia's sister and brother-in-law, both of whom were in the car with her when they witnessed the Trinity test in July 1945. Sinclair learned that even as a young girl Georgia had sight in only one eye, and at age seven she damaged (and lost the use of) this eye when she hit it on a refrigerator door. However, although Georgia was functionally blind, she apparently could still distinguish between light and dark, and her "seeing" the Trinity explosion can therefore probably be attributed to her merely having the minimal amount of visual sensitivity required to discern the extreme difference between the dark of a pre-dawn sky and the brilliant flash of a nuclear explosion" ( Source and copyright: Snopes. Interesting article.)
It was really cool that they did it practically, but I was unfortunately deeply disappointed by the explosion overall, it did not do the best job of convincing me that it was far away or large, this was kinda like a firecracker compared to the real trinity test. Amazing movie and scene though!
The amazing thing during this explosion is that 'Richard Feynman' was the only person who had seen the explosion without wearing protective glasses.We seen him 02:26 behind a truck windshield. After the event Feynman told that "I'm about, the only guy in the world who actually looked at the nuclear explosion".
The silence portion of this clip is the most suspense I have ever felt. I don't believe any movie before or after can compare to the absolute silence this scene captured. Marvelous.
OMG I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO UPLOAD THIS SCENE!! I watched this in cinema and the entirety of my body was sweating and shaking. I could really feel the tension and panic and this has to be the best cinema experience I’ve ever had!!
It was like a countdown to the start of the Anthropocene, when humanity harnessed the power of the stars itself and became slightly ever more significant in understanding the grand scheme of the universe.
I knew about Oppie as a kid, later studied physics and remember seeing the films of the Trinity Test at the Institute. I recall the chills I felt watching those crude films. This reconstruction of the event is remarkable. The chills came again, this time magnified by the brilliant direction, and all the buildup to the blast. It’s actually very close to the real detonation. I invite anyone to view the real McCoy, but that in itself is not that important. The whole event invoked all of those men and their tireless work for so long coming to this climax. The way it’s directed you feel that tension, nervousness, outright panic barely contained. The flash is but a tiny part of it all, and what Nolan provided was wonderful!
