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OPR Grimdark Future - Advanced Tactics: Alien Hives are broken! 

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The first of faction-specific deep dives into how to build a competitive list and play it.
Tier list - • OPR Grimdark Future 3....
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00:00 - Intro
03:37 - Assumptions
05:35 - Criteria
08:24 - Comparison to criteria
09:47 - Sample lists
26:50 - Army list analysis
35:05 - Proposed fixes (nerfs)
37:05 - Thanks for watching!
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@EmperorPain
@EmperorPain 4 месяца назад
Great video! Maybe I have been mistaken but, the Synapse Floaters, as a unit will always be a level 1 caster, regardless of the number of models in the unit. They are still very powerful but only gain one spell token a round. :)
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
Each model counts as caster 1 and they share tokens. So a combined squad would give six tokens per turn. It is a little badly phrased though!
@control745
@control745 4 месяца назад
Great in depth video! As a AH main I can admit they are bisted and need some nerfs
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
I appreciate the honesty! We all just want a better game.
@viasolus
@viasolus 4 месяца назад
The frustrating part isn't that they're so unbalanced, it's that if you mention this to the reddit or discord you'll get swarmed with naysayers who struggle to imagine opr can be unbalanced. It's a beautiful system, but absolutely allows for broken armies even at the casual level.
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
Well, I just call it like I see it. I like One Page Rules, but the system needs more work
@Jordan-cd7zj
@Jordan-cd7zj 4 месяца назад
Agreed. As he said, some units just have better streamlined stats, such as Soul Snatchers.
@Youdotty
@Youdotty 4 месяца назад
Hey, I'm still watching the video so apologies if you answer this later on. You said that competetive OPR should be played at 3000 points as that is closer to the standard in 40k. I'm assuming there are some underlying reasons why you think the 40k standard size is the best size. Can you explain that please? Is it to do with being able to take a decent variety of units so that balance is better?
@Youdotty
@Youdotty 4 месяца назад
Great video btw
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
2000 points really causes problems with balance validation where some armies can't include units because they are slightly above the max unit cost limit. OPR it's not nearly as complex and so lends itself to higher point games. Larger points do help with balance as well.
@Direwolf1771
@Direwolf1771 4 месяца назад
As another example, Knight Brothers can’t take Nemesis Walkers unless you go 3000pts or higher. Actually might be 3500 minimum, I’m not positive.
@control745
@control745 4 месяца назад
Looking at your criteria for what makes a great army i would be curious to see you do a deep dive on the machine cult. IMO they almost dont cover half that criteria list but you considered them A tier. Lack of Ap4 is the most painful for them to start
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
They are good but it was rough placing them. I feel they are a low A. I will do deep dive on them. But it may be a bit! I want to cover all the armies
@control745
@control745 4 месяца назад
@@NexusWargaming that's exciting to hear. I make sure to share your videos with everyone. Your channel should be much bigger with the community of competitive guys that love discussing the same topics
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
@@control745 thank you! Competitive play is my passion as well!
@jamiecampbell3058
@jamiecampbell3058 4 месяца назад
I faced Alien Hives the other day, using Dark Prime Brothers, and I was the one doing the murdering lol
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
Dark Brothers are really good! I haven't played their prime version but that dark assault is super good
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
Can you post the list you used?
@jamiecampbell3058
@jamiecampbell3058 4 месяца назад
++ Dark Prime Brothers (v3.2.0) [GF 2490pts] ++ 2x Dark Blaster Squad [5] Q3+ D2+ | 370pts | Grim, Medical Training 5x CCW (A1), 5x Plasma Auto-Rifle (24", A2, AP(4)) Dark Prime Master [1] Q3+ D2+ | 145pts | Hero, Tough(3), Grim, Veteran Infantry, 1x Archivist(Caster(2)) Master Heavy Pistol (12", A2, AP(1)), Energy Sword (A2, AP(1), Rending) | Joined to: Dark Guard Squad [3] Q3+ D2+ | 290pts | Heavy Shield, Tough(3), Grim 3x Energy Sword (A3, AP(1), Rending), 3x Heavy Pistol (12", A1, AP(1)) Dark Grave Prime Master [1] Q3+ D2+ | 280pts | Hero, Tough(6), Grim, 1x Captain(Battle Rites) Energy Sword (A4, AP(1), Rending), Energy Fist (A4, AP(4)), Fist-Pistol (12", A6) | Joined to: Dark Aggro Squad [3] Q3+ D2+ | 400pts | Tough(3), Grim 3x Dual Energy Fists (A4, AP(4)), 3x Twin Fist-Pistols (12", A3), 3x Shoulder-GL (18", A1, AP(2)) Dark Attack Walker [1] Q3+ D2+ | 635pts | Fear(3), Tough(15), Grim Stomp (A5, AP(2)), Chest-GL (18", A1, Blast(3)), Heavy Plasma Cannon (30", A1, AP(4), Blast(6)), Walker Fist (A4, AP(4)), Light Gatling Gun (18", A4)
@Jordan-cd7zj
@Jordan-cd7zj 4 месяца назад
It makes me wonder how they fair against Wolf Brothers who all have native Counter-Attack.
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
I haven’t played wolf brothers yet. But I am thinking about the army. So many armies to work on 😅
@doctorw0rm
@doctorw0rm 3 месяца назад
You didn't mention the Shadow Hunter at all. While he has access to a lot of cool abilities, it seems like he suffers from all the usual problems of Tough 6 units.
@doctorw0rm
@doctorw0rm 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the great video, btw!
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 3 месяца назад
Thank you! Alien Hives was a difficult army to cover because of so many good units. I think the Shadow Hunter is super solid when souped up with 8 AP 4 attack and a Takedown attack.
@Randobar
@Randobar 2 месяца назад
I think some things are fixed with 3.3 as i see it now
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 2 месяца назад
Yes I’m glad they fixed some of the issues 🙂
@blackmagick77
@blackmagick77 4 месяца назад
Great note they're going to nerf them into the ground. It will be 550 pts for 2 ap1 attacks
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 4 месяца назад
Some modest nerfs can bring them in line. We really need more buffs to other armies
@bliantfive
@bliantfive 2 месяца назад
​@@NexusWargaming this. Some love for HDF would go a long way.
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 2 месяца назад
@@bliantfive hdf need some help! Manly in making their vehicles worth it.
@bliantfive
@bliantfive 2 месяца назад
@@NexusWargaming absolutely. I'm really unhappy with the tanks.But they look so cool on the field.
@NexusWargaming
@NexusWargaming 2 месяца назад
@@bliantfive completely agree! They are on my radar to work on soon. I’ll try 🙂
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