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Optimizing Canon C70 Audio: Top Settings and Inputs Guide

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An overview of monitoring and recording audio on the Canon C70 cinema camera. We'll review the different audio inputs on the camera, and we'll also take a look at some important audio features such as the analogue limiter and low-cut filter. If you have questions relating to the audio capabilities of this camera, let us know in the comments and we'll do our best to answer them.
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@marclattoni1959 3 года назад

A a C70 user, I found the video very useful and well presented. Even like the quirky light in BL corner. I was never really sure if your face was out of focus or if that's your "look". I'll subscribe and keep following.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words Marc!

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Check out more of our Learning and Tutorial videos here: ru-vid.com/group/PLu_tFCqy4gzgmam3QymO8m799xZkSJ3Y1

@eidfilms 3 года назад

Thank you for this video, I recorded an interview last week with a sennheiser lav mic G4, and got a lot of static in the audio. This video explained why, I had it set to "MIC", and not "LINE", so it was further amplifying the audio from a mic that has its own power provided via 2 AA batteries.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Glad it helped, and thanks for watching!

@DaveSy 3 года назад

Thanks for this quick series of tips on the audio settings! Quite helpful.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Glad you found it helpful!

@MatthewEncina 2 года назад

Very helpful video. Just what I needed to get set up. Thanks!

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Thanks for the kind words! Glad you found it helpful.

@Sutterjack 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the concise and very useful overview !

@MeridianMedia 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@chickenjoeclark 6 месяцев назад

Really helpful thank you 😊

@MeridianMedia 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@Mike0193Azul 3 года назад

Great thorough overview thank you 🔊

@mvhvideo 3 года назад

Great walkthrough thanks! Looking forward to picking this camera up!

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks Mark! Appreciate you watching!

@coldnorthcreative Год назад

brilliant thank you

@aaronohrt 3 года назад

This video is great! Very informative and well done! I encourage you to make more c70 videos!

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks Aaron! We'll definitely be making more C70 videos. Glad you enjoyed this one.

@avarmadillo Год назад

Thanks for the information, and thanks for keeping it simple.

@MeridianMedia Год назад

Thank you, and glad you found the video helpful!

@cranno99 3 года назад

I used your tips at a recent shoot. Many thanks 🙏

@SuperNova-Steve 3 года назад

Mate! Thankyou! Canon should throw their logo on that and pay you immediately. That was really efficient and helpful.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thank you! Really appreciate your feedback!

@just_inhawaii 3 года назад

Was gonna make a video like this, but you did a great job. Thanks!

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

@whitneymlautner Год назад

So helpful! And right to the point. Thank you.

@MeridianMedia Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@StrongCoolAnd Год назад

very helpful, thanks

@thefilmpoets 3 года назад

Nice work!

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thank you! Love your work!

@wcsdiaries 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia noob question (new to audio here) but does this camera support phantom power? I am looking at the sennheiser me64 and me66 which can use a k6 phantom power. But idk if that works with this camera

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

@@wcsdiaries Yes it supports phantom power, so you should be good to go

@wcsdiaries 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Thank you for the response. So if I understand correctly, this camera can record multiple audio tracks at once. So I can plug 2 mics into this camera, 1 mono, and 1 stereo, and combine them in post to have a perfect combination of mono/stereo audio? Is that right?

@scottgmaclean 3 года назад

Thanks so much for doing this video. I have been struggling with audio on the Canon C70 and this answers a lot of questions. I use a Rode NTG-3 boomed close to talent, but getting a lot of room noise. and I was confused with the multiple channel set ups, having come from a much simpler Panasonic GH5 with it’s XLR unit. I hope you do more on sound in the future, it’s really helpful.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks Scott! So glad you found this video helpful, and we'll definitely be doing more videos on sound in the future!

@wcsdiaries 2 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Ok dumb question...I just got the camera yesterday and am wondering why the in camrea mic isn't working? I recorded a few clips but it had 0 sound! Also, how many audio channels would the rode wireless go 2 take up? It has 1 receiver, but can record 2 lav mics with the 1 receiver. would the 2 lavs take up 2 channels, or would the 1 receiver somehow combine them into 1 channel?

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

@@wcsdiaries You should be able to assign the in-camera mic by going in to the audio setup, audio input selection and making sure either CH1/CH2 or CH3/CH4 are assigned to the Built-In Mic. I'm not positive about the Rode Wireless Go 2, but I'd imagine since it's just 1 receiver, and therefore only one input on the camera, it would combine them into 1 channel. If you happen to do some testing on this let us know what you find out!

@wcsdiaries 2 года назад

@@MeridianMedia perfect thank you! And will do!

@patriziagenovesi8620 2 года назад

grazie, sei bravo e chiaro

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Prego!

@conorhigginsfilm 2 года назад

Great video! Have you experimented with the mic trimming setting and if so do you know what it does?

@josevalenciafilms 3 года назад

My limiter shows grey out, did I miss out some settings? thanks for the great video.

@Pluralizeent Год назад

Mine is too, did you ever figure out why we don't have access to the limiter?

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Has anyone else had issues synching their C70 camera audio to external recorder audio in Adobe Premiere Pro? We're not sure what causes this, but we found a workaround in case it happens to you: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ggc4zxUgQyU.html

@leobardobivianomedia 2 года назад

Quick question: what is the 1 kHz tone for?

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Great question! I'm actually not sure, and there isn't much info about it online. If you figure it out please let us know!

@jmallenvideo 2 года назад

I have been a Canon user for many years (C100, C300, C200) and have never had any problems with audio but with the C70, I find that there is a lot of hiss/noise when any audio cable is plugged in and any setting is applied. I thought it was a case of me being stupid and rusty having not filmed much during Covid restrictions but having spoken to Canon, they confirm all settings/setups I am using are correct. I have tried all possible scenarios with various mics (Sennheiser EW G4 kit, MKE 600, MKE 440, MKH 416) - it can't sound this bad surely?! I have x2 C70 units and have checked mics on other cameras so can rule out a camera and/or mic/cable issue. I wondered if you have experienced this yourself and if not - please share your settings as I am just about through with this camera!

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Hmm I can't say I've had that issue. To be honest with you though, we still use an external audio recorder for most of our productions. I like having a designated audio recorder, especially with 32-bit float options out there now. It just makes metering on set a lot easier. I realize that "use another piece of gear" isn't a solution to your problem, but given the amount of testing you've done it seems like you've ruled out most of the culprits. Do you know what frequency range the noise is in?

@christinajones1993 3 года назад

Great video!

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks Christina!

@JackChapman 2 года назад

Off topic. What is that dope little light on your left?

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Frekvens by Teenage Engineering. I love everything they create

@mattiaantonelliofficial 3 года назад

Many many thanks! Is it possible to record only one track? I haven’t found any settings in the manual for that. Thanks

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thank you! I haven't found a way to deactivate audio channels. If there is no signal coming in to the channel, it won't record audio, but you'll still see four tracks when you load the clip into your editing software. Hope that helps!

@BryanBenoitPhoto 3 года назад

Very useful

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thank you for watching!

@silvestrossouthernitaly9795 2 года назад

very helpful!

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@TarsierSpectral Год назад

Do you know why Built-in Mic Mode would be grayed out? I don't get any audio from the internal mics. Thank you

@MeridianMedia Год назад

If you go in to the C70 camera settings > Main Audio Format (MP4), it should be LPCM 16 bit 4CH. Let us know if that works for you!

@davidschwan 2 года назад

Thank you !

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Glad you found it helpful!

@gregbarrett4516 3 года назад

Thank you for your excellent video. It takes me further than anything else I've watched in being able to understand the process of setting up to record audio on the C 70. But perhaps it's my lack of technical ability that is standing in the way of setting up the camera to record the following: A Rode Shotgun mic into Input 1. A RodeLink on-camera Receiver into Input 2. The input from the RodeLink does not show up on the Audio Setup meters: only the output from the Built In mics shows up. I wonder if you might be able to help me, please. Again, thanks for getting me this far. Greg

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Hey Greg, thanks for the kind words! I've never used a RodeLink before, but looking at pictures it looks like it would connect via the 3.5mm mic input to the camera and not the mini XLR input. Just out of curiosity, did you try plugging in to that? You may have to go in to the Audio Setup menu and switch from the Built In Mic to the Mic Terminal. Hope that helps but let me know if you are still stuck!

@gregbarrett4516 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Thank you. I'll give that a try. Audio has always been a challenge for me. It seems to run almost contrary to the visual, which is my strength. But, like the great Robert Bresson, I would never underestimate its power to communicate. Thank you, again. Keep up the good, kind work. G

@oscarm4154 Год назад

My built In mics have ok level for input. Now sending video feed via HDMI video is OK but not receiving any audio via HDMI. Does the C70 not send audio via HDMI? Thank you

@MeridianMedia Год назад

Audio should send through HDMI. What device are you sending the HDMI into? Are you using a capture card?

@creativegreatsvisuals 6 месяцев назад

What do you think of the canon c70 internal audio quality vs using a mixpre6 ii or mix pre 3ii into the 3.5 jack of the c70 audio quality?

@MeridianMedia 6 месяцев назад

Great question! In my experience, while the Canon C70 does a decent job with its internal audio for casual use or in a pinch, it's generally advisable to consider it a last resort for professional work. The internal mics and preamps simply can't match the quality you'd get from dedicated audio equipment. Using an external recorder, like the MixPre-6 II or MixPre-3 II, and feeding that audio into the C70 via the 3.5mm jack is a significantly better solution. Hope this helps!

@Pluralizeent Год назад

Really informative, I have a question that you might be able to answer. For my C70 I have a Rode VideoMic (not 100% sure of the model offhand without it in front of me) that is connected through the MIC (with power supply) port. The audio limiter option though is grayed out with --- instead of any options. Any ideas why this would be? I'm on the latest firmware and I feel like I've turned on and off all the audio settings I could find but nothing! Also couldn't find any answers elsewhere. Ever run into something like this or have any clues why?

@MeridianMedia Год назад

Hmm that's very interesting. I tried to mess around with the settings to figure out what would cause it to gray out, but I'm striking out. I'll take another look today and if I figure it out I'll be sure to let you know. Thanks for watching!

@CinemaSteve 3 года назад

From experience, pony up for Kondor Blue’s XLR to Mini XLR cables. Not only are they braided, they’re high quality and have no interference from what I’ve heard when recording. The cheap ones I’ve gotten on Amazon have all had some sort of interference and lack of shielding. Save yourself the headache of moving the cable around to make sure it doesn’t touch anything and just get a nicer cable from Kondor Blue.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

That's good to know. I haven't had any issues with interference yet, but can definitely see the lack of shielding being an issue. Thanks Steve!

@marclattoni1959 2 года назад

Bought a RODE VideoMic NTG connected as channels 3 and 4. . Is it preferable to manage gain, low cut and limiters on the microphone or the camera? I am experimenting with the C-70 limiter and low cut off and camera gain at 50 and fine tuning the levels on the microphone. Thanks

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

Hey Marc! Generally I like to make as many adjustments as I can closest to the sound source, so if you can apply gain, low-cut, and limiter on the mic I would try that and assess how it sounds. Every mic is a little different though so trial and error might lead you to applying most of the gain on the camera instead of the mic.

@ArifKhan. 3 года назад

wish this thing was FF with my sweet RF lenses. :( I guess it will come out eventually (and cost more)

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

We own a lot of EF glass, and are waiting for Canon's speedbooster to ship to us, so that'll be fun to use. I've heard wonderful things about RF glass, but have yet to use any. Once you get used to full frame it's hard to go back. Thanks for leaving us a comment Arif!

@ArifKhan. 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia if you haave EF, this camera makes a lot of sense (with the Canon Speedbooster). Good way to transition into the RF glass world. And yes, you've heard corrently, those RF lenses are ridiculously good. I have a few, but I have yet to take the 24-70 F2.8 RF off my camera body. I might as well be a fixed lense camera at this point. lol

@CollingFilms 3 года назад

do you have any idea why channels 3 and 4 would be grayed out? It won't let me use them... there has to be a reason or way to fix that right?

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Check in the menu under the Recording/Media setup page. Make sure that Main Audio Format is LPCM 16 bit 4CH. This should open up channels 3+4 for you.

@CollingFilms 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia that did it. Thank you so much!!! 🙏🏻

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Glad we could help, and thanks for checking out our channel!

@sunnysideupsolutionsllc7331 2 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Thanks for helping us! Just got this snazzy camera and you've already helped me find channels 3/4! Party! Thanks!

@MeridianMedia 2 года назад

@@sunnysideupsolutionsllc7331 Thanks for watching! Enjoy that snazzy camera!

@larsosejohansen 3 года назад

You can, at least in the XA50 adjust the volume of the 3/4 (L/R) channel separately, so that you have a backup recording. Look for «ALC link» and it should be separated, not linked. It looks like the audio menu is more or less exactly the same as on my XA50.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Yeah that's correct. You have 4 independent audio channels that you can control levels for. I was just saying that if you use the internal mic or 3.5mm mic, you'll occupy two channels, even if you are able to adjust their levels independently. Hope that makes sense!

@larsosejohansen 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Yes, I do know that and it was perfectly clear in the video. Just wanted to point out what I said since you did not mention it, and it is extremely useful for lets say a lavalier for run and gun, where you do not need the "stereo" anyways. If you want to separate the channels, this one will probably work good. I ordered it and I am going to check how good it works. (www.smallrig.com/smallrig-two-in-one-bracket-for-wireless-microphone-2996.html)

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

@@larsosejohansen That’s a really good consideration! Let us know how that works once you have some time to test it!

@larsosejohansen 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Got it today and it works great! Now I have four separate channels to edit as I want in post, they are not merged together in camera anymore.

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

@@larsosejohansen Awesome, that's really good to know! Thanks for confirming Lars!

@frederikfrey710 3 года назад

Hey! Audio over HDMI is really 16 bit only? Even when cam settings are in XF-AVC, Linear PCM? Would be strange. What about 4 channels of audio? Cany you confirm that? Would be great.Thx

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Hey Frederik, thanks for leaving a comment! Here are the answers to your questions: 1. Confirmed with Canon on this. The audio output through HDMI on the EOS C70 will only output in 2-channel linear PCM 16 bit, regardless of what the camera settings are. 2. Yes, you can record 4 channels of audio internally. So, for example, you could have channels 1 and 2 recording independently through the XLR inputs, and then assign channels 3+4 to be a safety track for channels 1+2. Hope that helps but let us know if you have any more questions and we'll do our best to answer them. -Dustin

@frederikfrey710 3 года назад

Thx for your answers Dustin. 4 channels internally was out of question and you covered that in your video extensively. ^^ But 16bit and 2 channels only over HDMI is really a bummer and sthg Canon should fix in a firmware update if possible.

@joshstone. 2 года назад

Has anyone had their C70 built in mic stop working? This happened to me a few days ago and the problem isn't anything obvious. I have it in normal recording with the built in mic set to on and the volume turned all the way up. I get nothing on the volume reader and when I bring the clips into post it's nothing but white noise. I'm not sure maybe this is a common issue with the camera? I tried resetting all my setting and it still doesn't work. The Line and Mic outputs still work fine.

@veronicakeszthelyi-scown4272 Год назад

I know this comment is a year old but did you ever figure it out? I had this happen on a C500 recently and the Canon CSR told me to upgrade the firmware. It was hired so I couldn’t do that.

@relaxsoundhealing Год назад

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@EugeneMaynard 3 года назад

🙏🏾

@TomFewchuk 3 года назад

Great vid but your hands are super distracting everytime you do that over emphasised explaining motion. Looks quite unnatural as though someone told you to use your hands more and now you're compensating ahah. Just an fyi, use them when it's actually appropriate and sparingly, not all the time, would be a suggestion

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Totally agree with you. This is only the 3rd or 4th video where I'm talking to the camera, so I'm definitely still in the learning phase there. If you stick around for future videos there will be less unnecessary gestures, and hopefully you still were able to walk away with some valuable info from this one. Thanks again for the feedback Tom!

@TomFewchuk 3 года назад

@@MeridianMedia Awesome! Don't mean to be harsh or anything, it's a big thing to put yourself out there and is a really quality vid! Thanks for taking constructive criticism in stride unlike a lot of RU-vid creators 😅

@deaniweenie 3 года назад

Next time try not to continually roll your hands, it's distracting and annoying. You even did it when you said "thanks again".

@MeridianMedia 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback. We are a small channel, still growing and getting experience talking in front of the camera. Hopefully you still managed to learn something from this video.