Orbs in Fighting Games 

A glance through the video's timeline seems to suggest that Ballz 3D is not discussed in this video, despite it being a fighting game consisting of nothing but orbs. My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

Part of me was really waiting for the manscaped sponsor being like "But let's talk about the most important orbs, your orbs."

Can’t wait to ponder the Orb for 30 minutes with the lads

We're reaching "talking about random bullshit" levels that shouldn't be possible.

You likely didn’t ask but as someone studying VFX, I can tell you that the prevalence of the Orb is likely partially, at least in 3D games, because it’s a supremely easy effect, both to make AND to render. most Orbs only need to be a 2D sprite, and all it takes to make it look pretty decent is a gradient from the center and a slight noise at the edges. It’s like, an hour tops to make a pretty decent Orb. Orbs are my best friend and I love them

I love that you released this video right after Asuka comes out and his whole aesthetic is cubes. Classic Big Yellow chaotic energy.

Big Yellow finally gives us their 34 minute essay on balls.

I'm no fighting game expert, but my favorite Orb might be Mewtwo's Shadow Ball in Smash 4. It gave you a HUGE burst of backwards momentum, which they took out in Ultimate. They buffed it in other ways, but I'll always miss being able to schmoove with it.

I appreciate the Mario “watch for falling rocks parallel universe” music in explaining 3S unblockables. Really gets me in the mood for learning

The best Orb in fighting games is kirby, because he's shaped like a friend

The fact that you went a full half an hour of this without making a single joke about balls is a feat you should be proud of.

the yassification of big yellow is amazing

That whole Oro section was fantastic lol I was genuinely scared that 3rd Strike somehow had PUs for a second there

I don’t know why but referring to a move as “fucked up” is hilarious to me. Every time it was said managed to get a laugh out of me

Roa going from a bottom tier (like on the level of the literal joke character, Neco Arc Chaos) to arguably top 1 is just really funny

I love that people still do pannenkoek sections in videos years later. "The naive answer" made my brain tranport directly to 2016

i can't tell you how much i appreciate the pannenkoek style explanation of third strike unblockables lmao

I love how in some MK games the character being juggled looks like they're performing some insane gymnastics.

34 minutes? That’s a lot of orbs. May the orbs continue to bless fighting games forevermore.

My favorite orb in a fighting game is melee Mr.Game&Watch's shield 🙃

I would really love for this to become a series, with the next vids possibly being about RNG, supers, Fireballs, Command Grabs, and Game defining mechanics (like Roman Cancels in GGS or tag team in MVC), and meters (like V triggers, momentum, X factor, etc.) in fighting games

It’s orbin’ time!

I respect the Roa pick for Melty Blood Orb User, but I'm personally really partial to Aoko. The way that she can set 2 different kinds on screen that have different properties (limited time proximity mines, or theoretically infinite time negative edge orbs that require her to give up easy access to a button and manually detonate them) create a lot of really interesting situations. The way that her neutral focuses around setting up orbs, and then intentionally positioning around them is a really cool twist on neutral that feels distinct from the usual spectrum of "Keep Them The Hell Away From Me/Get In At All Costs" that most characters exist on. And of course, they enable lots of pressure and mixup shenanigans.

A personal favorite orb of mine is from HFTF, Vanilla Ice's 214 super is one of the worst supers in the game and I love it because it means he doesn't have 3 great ones.

13:15 YO MY SPREADSHEETS GO NUTTY

Daisuke deadass named a character Kum

small misconception about the juggle counter in sf3: how juggles work in 3s is that there's a timer that counts down between each hit in a juggle, and when it runs out, completely locks you out of juggles for the rest of the combo (this also extends to air reset > supers too). the counter determines how short the timer is and it keeps getting cut down lower and lower as it goes up, usually resulting in follow-ups being impossible around 5-7 points depending on the character and situation. the most visible example that I can think of of this is Hugo's Ultra Throw > Clap > Backbreaker, which works, but the window for it connecting is right around when the juggle timer runs out

heres some extra orbs for any of you who want some more squigly (skullgirls) has some of my favorite orbs in FG’s, her level one super SBO is an orb she can place on one of three locations. as skullgirls is an up to 3v3 tag fighter, a multi-hit super allows her to DHC either out of or into another member (dhc is doing another super input to tag to one of your assist characters) and lets her spend meter really well. on top of this, she has her center stage special move which makes the camera focus on her, and when charged with her stance, it freezes the screen as well, which means you can get FULL SCREEN PUNISHES on zoning and otherwise. squigly’s lvl3 is also very similar, but instead it makes a BIG orb, similar to haehyun’s super orb, but instead it homes in on the enemy for HUGE damage on hit or block, and it doesnt go away even if she’s hit allowing it to be an incredible combo breaker. in order to remove the orb you need to hit squigly then tag her out to bring another character in. fukua’s orbs aren’t as interesting, but they’re projectiles you can throw on the ground or in the air that bounce along the ground like oro SA2, so that’s neat.

As the C-roa in 33:27, playing this character requires maximum cognition. Trust me :)

Love the video! I wanted to say that there is a very niche use for Urien’s EX Sphere. It involves it colliding with an opponents 1-hit projectile on the first 2 frames of the sphere being out, then canceling into aegis. For some reason while the super freeze occurs, your EX Sphere that collided still travels across the screen hitting the opponent while they are frozen which allows you to combo off of if they also get caught in the aegis after the freeze.

Time for another episode of "what the fuck is this individual rambling about," with my favorite Irish rambling individual.

Man, I wasn't expecting melty at all, that really surprised me. TL and AACC are both awesome games, I love them

shame asuka just came out, he doesnt have orbs persay but his projectiles give alot of plus frames and have alot of creative uses, awesome vid

was expecting a 34 minute video essay on oros nuts im deeply disappointed

1:03 this one sentence is one of the best advertisements for this channel

you look so good in this❤ eyebrows on fleek

large yellow: in this video i will talk about funny circles for 30 whole, real life minutes me (in love with big yellows content): i will click this video literally fucking instantly. thank you so much

I remember when a good 3rd of XRD's cast had "Knockdown into oki orb" as their gameplan

A personal favorite orb is Fukua’s “Love Dart” from skullgirls. (236P) Only one can be out at a time but it has 6 angles (3 for each punch grounded or arial). The orb has a unique mechanic where the farther away Fukua is from the opponent when the orb makes contact (hit OR miss) determines the amount of meter she gets from the move: ranging 2.35% to 9% of bar. It’s an alright assist with some niches especially for peacock, helping cover an angle her zoning misses. She has a super orb too with 4 angles (1 grounded 3 arial) but is used primarily for chip damage and swapping in. Very very fun orb held back by the low damage of being on a joke character and the other zoning options skullgirls has beating it in almost every way.

34 minute video about BALLS

In Hisoutensoku, basically all of Reimu’s supers are orbs in some way, but I’d like to mention Iku’s super that people usually call “Exodia” due to it usually winning the round, which makes a lightning orb above her (not the only Iku super that does this), comboing into it deals about 50%, and the orb spawns a series of smaller orbs that spiral outwards and trail lightning behind them, which stay around for a long time and will oki the opponent after the combo, locking the opponent to block for a while, dealing large chip damage, and reducing their guard guage.

Fellow accidental Centipedes during Raoh gamer

the pannenkoek bit was choice, very nice

This truly is the concept for a video ever

On today's episode of funny nb person talking about random things, we are gonna talk about balls

It's weird to mention orbs and Melty Blood without bringing up Aoko. Lady has orbs for days. She can set them up basically whenever. In some match-ups, she can just set up a house of orbs and just kinda sit behind it, firing beams or whatever. There's very little some characters can do to stop her from doing this. There's also BIG ORB. Witch also does stuff.

Xrd also has Raven's "Horny Orb". I like that one. So many good orbs in Xrd. Also thank you for dropping Elphelt for Bed. By doing that theres one less Elphelt player in the world which is a net positive.

Me: Big Yellow will never be orbin' Big Yellow:

shoutouts to len from melty who literally has her entire moveset be orb attacks

34 minutes of *ORB PONDERING* Glorious.

It's spherical! *_SPHERICAL!!_*

This video is conceptually a gaming listacle from 2013

pondering my orb so fking hard rn

I think my personal favorite orb of note is Dormammu’s Stalking Flare just for how absolutely obscene of an idea it was for a fighting game

C-Roa is such a fun character. I can't tell you how much I love this dude, even though I'm kinda trash with him. There's just something cathartic about winning a round where you *know* your opponent hated every second of it.

Great timing i was pondering my orb just before you uploaded

Part of me was secretly hoping that there were some indie games because for example Duels of Fortune has a boss that's called "The Orb" and how in Merfight you're collecting orbs in the form of bubbles to give you meter and the ability to cancel any normal or special in any movement

KoF 99-2001 and 2002UM have a character named Bao. All of his specials? Orbs. His supers? Orbs. His gameplan? Orbs This fella is shooting orbs every which way. He can even become the orb

I want to throw a shout out to Project M Lucario's orbs. He's got the regular neutral b "aura sphere" that works like most charged projectile moves, but if you build up enough aura/meter (Project M lucario is supposed to be a reminiscent of traditional 2D fighters so he can build up an invisible meter and his jabs link into tilts which link into smash attacks, sort of like Street Fighter's light medium heavy links or Guilty Gear's punch, kick, slash, heavy slash gattlings) he can instead throw out an even larger slow moving version of his aura sphere without needing to charge it. It's pretty laggy to throw out though and it's usually better to spend Lucario's meter doing a different action (he can also choose to spend his meter to "roman cancel" any of his moves into just about any action, like dashing, smash attack, his specials... Lucario can be a combo fiend in this game and I hope some day we get Project M/Project + with rollback!!!) but it's undeniably cool to see Lucario jump over his opponent, throw out the spirit bomb, teeter cancel the ending animation into turn around grab, and then back throw the opponent into the slow moving off-stage projectile to launch them into death.

yeah. Bedman is dope. edit: Oh shit, thanks for the shoutout.

just wanna mention that urban legend in limbo exists, and it's plot is just "get orbs" (i think that might also be the plot of waku waku 7 but i'm not sure)

GOATed video on concept alone, the type of thing the FGC really needs to focus on.

I see this in my sub feed & immediately think about Urban Legend in Limbo, the fighting game with a song called "An Everyday Life with Balls" & one of its characters uttering "Let us wager our balls & fight!"

Both Broly forms have big bouncing inflatable green balls and they piss me off so much it’s unreal. Definitely orbs worth mentioning

So hype to sit down and watch this while I eat my meal before bed. I only eat once a day so I have to make my food RU-vid count, and this is it chief I got kinda lost with the talks of moves being like "236H" - I assume the H is heavy, is the "2 3 6" like directions? Like the face of a clock? I dunno how I'm just now asking this anyway, this video was full of hella interesting tidbits even as a sorta newcomer to non-smash fighting games, really enjoyed, thanks

AS SOON AS I SAW THE BEDMAN ORB I CLICKED ON THE VID 😂

Im so happy that you enjoyed playing bedman in xrd, surely my favorite iteration of the character, but i really really love strive bedman too, whats your opinion on strive bedman? Im curious to hear your opinion about him, i think he is really fun and i love the orb he has in strive too, i think he transitioned pretty well, he really kept his setup-semi zoning and lockdown gameplay

I love when Vanilla Ice says "Its orbin' time", and then he orbs all over some stand user.

I feel like you couldn't make this video without mentioning roa. It's such a iconic Orb moment

I recognized that it was Reptiles projectile from the sprite. I don't play mortal Kombat. This is the wake-up call I need. I am spending way too much time thinking about fighting games.

Thought I'd chime in on 3rd Strike Urien's EX Metallic Sphere. I'm not going to mention the super freeze projectile clash bug since somebody else already brought it up in the comments. First off, if it didn't cost any meter to do, I think it could get some pretty good use from Urien players canceling it into Aegis. Like, EX Sphere xx HP Aegis could potentially be a good way to lock down or push an opponent into the corner in certain situations. EX Sphere actually does have some practical use if you pick SA1 (though you shouldn't be doing that anyway of course lmao). He can use it in tandem with SA1 to do a midscreen unblockable setup that's pretty situational, yet quite rewarding. RU-vid likes hiding comments with links in them so I'll post it as a reply to this comment. Loved the video btw!

"I'd be doing a massive disservice to her if I didn't mention him" Me when I-when-when I me-I-when I'm-Gender Orbs feel like they often have similar roles regardless of game. If they're a projectile they're some combination of slow, oki tool, and big. They're also often a game's hittable projectile a la Venom, Beerus, and Makoto. I could name things like Psycho Ball or Dorm's big ball super but they'd feel like rehashes of what you already mentioned. That being said, there's a few I want to mention: - Tomoka in DFCI has a basketball. Balls are orbs, right? In Tomoka's case, there's not a huge visible orb but all her specials, supers, and her 5AB all use the basketball in some way. She's just such a unique character. - Ori's forward special in Rivals. On the surface it's a slow projectile that's easy to parry, but it really shines when combined with down special. ori can bash the ball either to redirect it or as a movement tool. You can kinda juggle it up and down on one side of the stage as a timing mixup as well or as an edge guarding tool. As movement, it gives you command movement in a lot of weird ways and has some utility for recovery. I could also just call Sein an orb but y'know. - Soku has a lot of orbs, considering it's touhou, but I really like Suika's. Her C button shoots big orbs that explode like fireworks into smaller orbs. except for 6C which is just a big fast projectile. Anyways now that Asuka's out, I can't wait for cubes in fighting games

I love the Pannenkoek tribute halfway through. It's beautiful

Local semi-competent C-Roa main here, since we didn't have much time to spend with the old "Numerology - Nest of Snakes" (that is the actual name of the move) here are some more fun orb facts! The quick projectile 236A can be canceled into ground orb set, which itself can be canceled into 22C, a chargeable special move which is at WORST +2 on block. This means that if you have fast enough hands, the sequence 236A 214X 22C lets you set a very plus uncharged orb, catch mashing, and stay plus all at the same time! Charged orb detonate combos into 2C, your best ender, on grounded opponents because of its high number of hits. That means that air counterhits, ground strings, or even hits in neutral with charged orb detonate all lead into your best oki, because 214[A] 22C 214[A](!) 2C is a true combo, and 22C, on top of being plus, also has a knockdown hit box that extends to the ceiling! And, finally, orbs also enable converting off of FUZZY GUARD BREAK MIXUPS! All of your air normals are double jump cancellable on block, so when you make people block a close to the ground falling air button, you can force them to guess between 2B and double jump j.C, the latter of which combos into detonate, not to mention how the immense blockstun of a charged orb detonation can enable you positioning yourself for the mixup in it of itself! Honest mids? Says who!

I'm a slayer main and as much as I love cheating the shit out of 6p over any poke attack, we kind of deserve getting absolutely punished over orb okizeme because of that.

good timing, releasing a video about oooooooooorb during GDQ lmao

Quirrky story but my first experience with zappa was via MUGEN and i have very fond memories of trying to crack these very tool heavy characters (imagine discovering a roman cancel or burst on keyboard without context of the game. Also there were very few usb controllers at the time and we were in high school 😂) But all of this to say that I too eventually learned "lightning crab" as i called him, was very underwhelming compared to the dog

Can't believe you made this without talking about Amakusa from Samurai Shodown, a character who's entire thing is using an orb. He literally just throws his orb at you for like every attack, its great.

if you like orbs so much you should play wizard in your only move is hustle

Man, Dissidia also has a weird history with Orbs. The PSP games only had a couple of them, with Emperor's Flare and Terra's Meltdown being the big two that people gotta watch out for. The former behaves wildly differently based on if you use it on the ground or in the air, with one being a trap and the other being a slow moving projectile that just follows the opponent the entire game. Meanwhile Meltdown is a chargeable projectile with each charge level having different properties. Plus Kuja is orbs: the character. But then NT happens and damn near every mage is reduced to just slinging balls at each other until your team mate comes in to finish the job. I do love NT, but man did they do the mages dirty. It did give us something magical though, as now two separate characters (Emporer and Vaan) have orbs that shoot orbs. And Vaan has a unique mechanic where the more HP attacks he lands, the better of an automatic follow up he gets. Which means, if you play your cards right, he can throw out an orb that shoots orbs that summons orbs on hit.

That peter Griffin censor is one of the best things Ive ever seen. I also am really surprised by your overall interesting and unique topics. Good work!

the fucking pannenkoek2012 reference is hilarious to me every time

hearing bullet dance is awesome great stuff

I haven't watched a single second of this video before commenting, but I know it's gonna be great. And ponderous...

The pannenkoek segment had me freaking out xD 21:09 I was so ready to hear "parallel universes"

I’m surprised that DBFZ wasn’t even at least honorable mentioned. Piccolo’s 236s and B assist I would guess are the most notable ones around. Along with the as of current patch, Frieza’s 236s and B assist, along with its ability to be slowed by holding back are really cool! Those are my two additions to this video, hope this video gets a sequel showing all the commented orbs

No yomi orb? If there's a sequel then you should cover Wizard from Yomi Hustle and his absolutely nonsensical orb.

Oddly enough the way Secret Garden was being described immediately made me think of a different orb from one of the few traditional fighters I actually played a significant amount of [I like me my Smash Bros, especially Ultimate, though that doesn't stop me from buying traditional fighters, playing them for like a day, and then never touching again], being Yamcha's Spirit Ball in FighterZ Now granted, Spirit Ball can't be pre-programmed on startup like Secret Garden, but you can influence the directions the ball comes from, which in turn affects how it will knock back the opponents, and I know there was a specific string of directions you could do to force the opponent into a hard knockdown [of course assuming the ball wasn't blocked in the first place] that allowed for an immediate follow-up into Neo Wolf Fang Fist

The story of C-Roa's ascension is crazy. Even just making the air orbs track would have been enough of a buff, but they went so far beyond and over-corrected.

Abyss/SCVI Zasalamel's cosmic embryo is cool. Sick name, first off. Secondly, orbs in a series that doesn't usually have projectiles at all (aside from Cervantes' gun) are always a good time. It looks cool in both games but in different ways and is a good way to try to keep people out while also building up curses in VI.

Was that a Pannenkoek reference during the Oro part? Brilliant.

It's surreal hearing your xrd bedman experience because that's exactly the same thing that happened to me. Xrd bedman might be my favorite fighting game character period

I started this channel with the Pokémon content and this is the first non-Pokémon content that I immediately had to click. Ya got me. Well done.

13:04 Yeah I've seen my Potemkin in this loop a fair number of times.

My favorite "orb(s)" push(es) the definition of orb, sort of like how I'm going to push the definition of "normal person" after describing them. Ergo, I still play Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS casually.... With Miis as my favorite characters... and equipment and customs as a staple part of my gameplay. I know, I'm a loser. However, in doing so, I've found out that speed equipment not only drastically improves movement, but also improves framedata. I'm not a labbing guy and Smash Bros as a whole doesn't usually provide comprehensive frame data, but I can say that the improvement is substantial, breaking the function of several moves that weren't meant to combo. Particularly, there's two (technically 3, but it's essentially just a weaker, missle version of one of these moves and _not_ an orb) moves that go from semi-noteworthy-at-best "fluff" to monsterous threats. Those moves are custom neutral special 3, Grenade Launch, and custom down special 2, Bomb Drop. They're both laggy, mediocre-powered projectiles that launch opponents away - absolutely not traits that would give any sort of follow up on a normal zoner. Despite that, they still have potential qualities because of set-play. The aerial version of bomb drop allows you to keep controlling your momentum mid air. It also launches the bomb slightly forwards, potentially allowing it to detonate with you nearby it. (Likewise, it seems to be a little less laggy mid air.) Meanwhile, the grenade is a more variable-range projectile since it can be charged, so it's detonation timing and distance can be manipulated. It also hits multple times so even though it's a laggy move, by the time it's launching hitbox activates the lag is more or less over. It's just that the Gunner doesn't have the speed to keep up with the launched opponent. However, speed equipment gives even the slowest zoners the frame data and speed of the fastest rushdown characters. This leads to an opportunity that I haven't seen in any other Smash Bros game: Full stage, projectile to normal/aerial kill combos. Since you can finally move faster than both projectiles and the characters they launch, you can capitalize ofd of every single one. It essentially turns every projectile into an early stage-wide kill move if you're good at follow ups. This is especially true since both of them have different launch angles (straight up and close for bomb drop, diagonally up and away for the grenade) and both have an element of set-play to them. I've killed as early as about 40% with grenade into back air carry, but you can theoretically go even lower. I've done grenade into f-air carry, I've done bomb into up-air kills (you can kill even earlier with up special 2, Gunner Uppercut), and I have even hit with both projectiles in one combo. My absolute favorite combo is grenade into down air. IT'S A PROJECTILE COMBO THAT ENDS IN A SPIKE KILL! I just wanted an excuse to talk about that, but it's relevant since they're still orbs (or orb like, in the grenade's case) with a set-play factor.

I could listen to you explaining random niche stuff for hours, you have a great voice but most importantly you're passioned ! You care about what you talk about and that's so satisfying to listen to even though I care about only half of your topics. Like I don't care, but YOU care and that makes it worth to listen to ! Also, you're beautiful, such a shame I mostly listen to your vids and not watch.. But I love listening to cool stuff while falling asleep, it truly helps me out !

SNK Orbs i would like to nominate: - Athena's 6321463214+P/PP which, in KOFXV, can be done after a point blank CD in the corner which hits them for about half a lifebar's worth of damage raw - fuck it, most of athena's kit is orbs and they're all VERY good (ex psycho ball is evil and she has another fireball that LAUNCHES) - Bao is an orb. like all he does is shoot or become orbs. theyre all evil and hes a horrible demon. - in some games Andy's hishouken is a giant fucking orb - Leona's baltic launcher is the CLASSIC orb. amazing chunky preemptive anti-air that shreds people and does hell of guard damage. VERY funny to use in juggles - i dont play enough samsho to know much about amakusa but he has such a good orb. so edible

Amazing video on orbs, I look forward to the follow up on rhombus

I'm a bunch of orbs orbiting other clumps of orbs held together by strings of orbs watching light orbs from a fellow orbanism enter my optical orbs while we all sit on an orb with an orb orbiting it while we orbit an orb of light itself orbiting a supermassive orb in what is potentially one of many orbiverses

"Kinda fucking goofy" kinda describes the whole og mortal kombat triology and I kinda love it. Kinda.