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Orcus vs Orvar vs Aphemia vs Chatterfang EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering 

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Комментарии : 132   
@rafaelribeiro1871
@rafaelribeiro1871 2 года назад
Wouldn't Martin be creating 2 squirrel tokens with Squirrel Nest while Chatterfang was out?
@bosser18
@bosser18 2 года назад
Thats what I'm thinking too
@kevinlewis1675
@kevinlewis1675 2 года назад
Correct. He missed quite a few squirrrls
@royalfishness1
@royalfishness1 2 года назад
came down here to check comments after he missed his second trigger :/
@rafaelribeiro1871
@rafaelribeiro1871 2 года назад
He did catch on later in the game.
@royalfishness1
@royalfishness1 2 года назад
oh good, he realized it later
@Googleflax
@Googleflax 2 года назад
The Arachnogenesis wouldn't have fogged the damage from your commander since he's a spider (though it wouldn't have mattered cause he could still chump block it).
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 2 года назад
Good detail catch!
@aldorankasl3000
@aldorankasl3000 2 года назад
This has no effect on the end of the game, as he had 18+ squirrels to drain the table with zulaport cutthroat,, but he would have only made 16 squirrel tokens from deep forest hermit entering. Either (4 + 4(chatterfang)) * 2 (2x season) Or (4 * 2 (doubling season)) + 8 (chatterfang). Same replacement effect can't apply to the same event (creating tokens) more than once.
@SolMatesMTG
@SolMatesMTG 2 года назад
Aphemia is so underrated in my opinion, can’t believe how much it was stopped by Martin near the end hahaha such a fun game to watch, any game with both Arachnogenesis AND Scourge of the Throne is a game for me 😍
@Darchias
@Darchias 2 года назад
The main problem with Aphemia is just that there's not a lot of support for mono-black Enchantress, and honestly while her ability is neat 'maybe a Zombie every turn' is pretty weak even if you do manage to bin enough enchantments.
@michaelgierusz5754
@michaelgierusz5754 2 года назад
Aphemia just doesn't do a lot, mono black is a solid colour but it's ability is super underwhelming.
@SolMatesMTG
@SolMatesMTG 2 года назад
@@michaelgierusz5754 trust me I get it, I’m just a voltron type of guy and mono black auras with her as the commander is really fun to me, that’s all 😁 in terms of raw power though she is very meh
@mosselliadelt
@mosselliadelt 2 года назад
@@SolMatesMTG there is so many better options for mono black voltron though. K'rrik or skithiryx or
@SolMatesMTG
@SolMatesMTG 2 года назад
@@mosselliadelt no disagreement there, but sometimes the out of left field choice is the most fun one, just saying 🤷‍♂️
@EclipseMeteor
@EclipseMeteor 2 года назад
Seeing orcus is sweet, but I'm really here for Nick's Aphemia deck. It's really fun to make and play
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад
Can't agree more every time I pilot aphemia it's like I picked up a different deck for her to run
@vradorm
@vradorm 2 года назад
At 9:30, you should've created 6 copies of Master of the Pearl Trident; 5 from the kicked Rite of Replication, 1 from Orvar. I don't think this really would've mattered in the end though. Cool video!
@vader2641
@vader2641 Год назад
12:40 because chatterfang’s token ability is a replacement effect, the doubling season doesn’t work on the tokens he creates. Meaning, the the hermit creates 4 tokens, the effect of doubling season happens so it’s 8, then it’s replaced with chatterfang’s ability creating 8 extra squirrels (which the doubling season doesn’t duplicate). So in total there should be 16 and not 24 squirrels from the hermit etb. He’d win the game anyway, but this is an important ruling quirk.
@PsykoHobo89
@PsykoHobo89 2 года назад
Love me some chatterfang! Hope to keep seeinghim!
@tzvirubin9708
@tzvirubin9708 2 года назад
it has been SO LONG since i watched the channel and i forgot how much i love the narration
@jonahcoffman3078
@jonahcoffman3078 2 года назад
Loved the Aphemia deck! I have most the cards so I might build it myself
@Sloth337
@Sloth337 2 года назад
Man RU-vid stopped telling me about your videos and I missed a bunch! Welp, at least I have a couple of hours of content I can binge now.
@SOLARN01SE
@SOLARN01SE 2 года назад
I love Nick’s brews! Thanks for linking deck lists btw.
@benyura
@benyura 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure doubling season doesn't double chatterfangs replacement effect after Martin already had doubling season double deep forest hermits tokens. Each replacement effect only happens once per event.
@SomewhereInMiddleEarth
@SomewhereInMiddleEarth 2 года назад
The thing to note is Chatterfang does not create tokens. Just like Season does not create tokens. Both modify how something else creates a token. The original effect from Hermit Druid creates 4 squirrels. You choose the replacement effect of Doubling Season so you create 8 Squirrel because 4*2. Then Chatterfang replacement effect sees the 8 tokens but creates 8 more becauce of its' ability. In total 16 Squirrels. You could also choose a different path and use the replacement effect from Chatterfang to be used first and then Season's. The result would be the same as well. Hermit Druid creates 4 squirrels. You choose the replacement effect of Chatterfang. You create 4 squirrels from druid and 4 Squirrels from Chatterfang but Season modifies those numbers to be 8 + 8, so 16 in total.
@M4TTM4TT
@M4TTM4TT 2 года назад
These new games are great! Thanks Muddy
@passingby161
@passingby161 2 года назад
Finally another chatterfang gameplay, love all the interaction
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 2 года назад
Chatterfang is nuts. Academy manufacturer really pumps my deck.
@fighterforger
@fighterforger 2 года назад
Those alter sleeves look so nice. Mono blue has never looked so good.
@harleyholt3747
@harleyholt3747 2 года назад
Love the sound effects !
@marianocolsin8968
@marianocolsin8968 2 года назад
Being overrun by squerrels is one of the coolest ways of dying
@lk8lk8lk8
@lk8lk8lk8 2 года назад
We are waiting for Martin's Chetterfang decklist!
@solomra
@solomra 2 года назад
Is there any chance we could see a decklist for Chatterfang? It looks like a lot of fun!
@MrNajie
@MrNajie 2 года назад
Just an FYI arachnogenisis only stops non spider damage. The person who uses it can use his spiders to take out a lot of what is attacking them
@AamariWilliams
@AamariWilliams 2 года назад
Andrew for the sleeves you were using, did you have to look up each card on Alter or? I can't seem to find bulk alter art sleeves
@admiralJONK
@admiralJONK 2 года назад
aphemia is one of my all time favorite cards, but i’ve never had the guts to make her a commander! love nick’s deck!!
@TheSkatesac
@TheSkatesac Год назад
Great video, Do you have the Chatterfang Decklist?
@gustavomartinsdesouza5548
@gustavomartinsdesouza5548 2 года назад
Well, that scaled quickly
@ybn_shabazz2544
@ybn_shabazz2544 Год назад
Where did you get those sleeves for Orvar ive been looking everywhere
@dedpoptart
@dedpoptart 2 года назад
Noob question, at 6 minutes ish a squirell token was created by nest, would this not trigger chatterfangs ability to double that?
@ezickial13
@ezickial13 2 года назад
Any way we can get that chatter fang deck list?
@TheValentinamboy
@TheValentinamboy 2 года назад
Does Martin have his deck posted anywhere?
@DraygaFlight
@DraygaFlight 2 года назад
I just want to get my mythic sleeves! they looks so spiffy!
@MDuncan624
@MDuncan624 2 года назад
Anyway we could please get that Chatterfang list?
@StarautPrime31
@StarautPrime31 2 года назад
What are those inner sleeves Andrew?
@Senpaiper
@Senpaiper 2 года назад
Did you get any kind of deal with buying the sleeves for your orvar deck i can't find the option on altered sleeves to buy multiple same frame like that
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Try this: www.mythicgaming.com/product/mythic-frames-set-credit/?attribute_pa_design-team=11
@AuraRisq
@AuraRisq 2 года назад
Hey Martin, if you read this comment, would it be possible for you to send me your Chatterfang decklist? Also, where did you get that playmat? I've been looking for one but can't find any... Thanks man, and GG to every player
@Tac-T-Kill
@Tac-T-Kill 2 года назад
I thought you were locked into the colors of the commander, how are you able to play black with a mono green commander?
@rubenmadronero8352
@rubenmadronero8352 2 года назад
Is possible to see Chatterfang list please
@TheSquidgames
@TheSquidgames 2 года назад
Are your sleeves altered?!?! They look so sweet where did you get them?
@decogecko8462
@decogecko8462 2 года назад
As squirrel token comes in at 4:00 Chatterfang should make another one
@lucasfernandez8827
@lucasfernandez8827 2 года назад
Shouldn't Rite of Replication activate Orvar's ability? It made no difference in the end, but I thought it was worth asking
@eduardom65
@eduardom65 2 года назад
Does anyone know what sleeves he was using, i checked the altersleeves sight but i cant find them.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
They're part of the Mythic Frames line. You can find them here: www.mythicgaming.com/product/nordicmistform-mythic-frames/?attribute_pa_design-team=11&attribute_pa_pack-type=set
@eduardom65
@eduardom65 2 года назад
@@MTGMuddstah sweet. Thanks man.
@Its109TheGamer
@Its109TheGamer 2 года назад
Did Orvar replace Mistform or is this a different deck?
@owenwells7692
@owenwells7692 2 года назад
I was wondering how the Chatterfang deck was playing black for the longest time, just didn't notice the black mana symbol on the ability.
@TheTrooper424
@TheTrooper424 Год назад
Any luck on the chatterfang decklist?
@aaronangeloff4390
@aaronangeloff4390 2 года назад
Ok I’m a little confused. I have a Chatterfang deck. With squirrel nest. When he taps the squirrels nest, shouldn’t he get two squirrels with Chatterfangs ability?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
He should. Martin missed it initially since it was his first time playing the deck / playing in person for a long time.
@gfkxj123
@gfkxj123 2 года назад
At 9:12 you didn't have the clone army yet, so Nick should have most definitely Killed Martin with 9 counters on Black Market.
@mugiwaralee9592
@mugiwaralee9592 2 года назад
This is the only time I've ever seen anyone both play and use Black Market, and holy shit did it pop off.
@Schiedog
@Schiedog 2 года назад
Why is Martin's mat all backwards (the text)?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
I think it's a joke playmat from LRR.
@cristianociotti1054
@cristianociotti1054 2 года назад
Please, Chatterfang list?
@robertbolea4341
@robertbolea4341 2 года назад
Andrew, didn't u discard Rogue's Passage to the Plague Crafter and not Kroxa?
@geekmp3
@geekmp3 2 года назад
What a great game and great de...... SQUIRREL!!!!
@The_Dying_Rose
@The_Dying_Rose Год назад
A demon, a harpy, a shapeshifter and a squirrel walk into a bar
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 2 года назад
Martin was supposed to create two squirrels instead of one thanks to Chatterfang.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
Yep, he missed a few triggers but got it in the end.
@thatoneborosplayer2577
@thatoneborosplayer2577 2 года назад
Cool
@ivernedit4132
@ivernedit4132 2 года назад
Martin should have been making two squirrels at the beginning each time he tapped it with chatterfang out
@fel_95
@fel_95 2 года назад
holy shit martin was ruthless, poor Aphemia
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 2 года назад
Was Martin not able to block with his newly made spiders? Arachnogenesis only fogs NON-spiders.
@xrush3rx1
@xrush3rx1 2 года назад
Chatterfang list pleeeeeeeeeeease?
@chicago928
@chicago928 2 года назад
Squirrel supremacy!
@TWhi2834
@TWhi2834 2 года назад
Yay Chatterfang!
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 2 года назад
Miss Mistform Ultimus, still hoping to see that deck, since you said It will not be changed for Orvar
@pain648
@pain648 2 года назад
What why. This orvar deck is his old mistform deck because he is strictly better
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
I did change it for Orvar, sorry!
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 2 года назад
:(
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 2 года назад
@@pain648 I know, but still he said he wouldn’t do that. But good to know :)
@matteobagni1235
@matteobagni1235 2 года назад
Chatter has been the most unstoppable commander lately
@path2plowshares274
@path2plowshares274 2 года назад
On the arachnogenesis turn, wouldn't or at still deal damage? Since he is a spider?
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 2 года назад
Valid point.
@Newspace123
@Newspace123 2 года назад
Can Martin give a Decklist?
@danpasquale1620
@danpasquale1620 2 года назад
Never discard a Rouge's Passage unless you can get it back card comes clutch an a regular basis!
@elisosa2955
@elisosa2955 Год назад
Chatterfang should have been creating 2 squirrels each time squirrel nest was tapped, not 1.
@jacem4925
@jacem4925 2 года назад
Not sure why Toski wasn't killed by the Extinguish all hope, as it isn't an enchantment creature.
@fickett7870
@fickett7870 2 года назад
he has indestructible
@louisgreen3071
@louisgreen3071 2 года назад
You should have made 6 masters of the pearl trident because of your orvar trigger
@thelunchlady8276
@thelunchlady8276 2 года назад
Ska-whurrels!!!!!
@glostance
@glostance 2 года назад
Still waiting on that Chatterfang list 😢
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
You and me both.
@newtpondskipper
@newtpondskipper 2 года назад
Chatterfang for the win!
@pupspups9288
@pupspups9288 2 года назад
Yeah that chatterfang player kept on missing the extra tokens he should have made
@omarescalante3114
@omarescalante3114 2 года назад
But, he put seven squirrels when he shouldn't have, so it evens out?
@toddallan6673
@toddallan6673 2 года назад
@@omarescalante3114 When did he do that?
@BeWrong666
@BeWrong666 2 года назад
Chatterfang should have created an additional squirrel for the token produced.
@dave_8600
@dave_8600 2 года назад
I just realized I have been playing chatterfang wrong...
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад
Hope aphemia wins she is incredible ( :
@Kohrath
@Kohrath 2 года назад
No chatterfang decklist ?! WHY!!
@thetone6320
@thetone6320 2 года назад
Early
@delryn256
@delryn256 2 года назад
$6 per alter sleeve... For when you haven't spent enough.
@MageSkeleton
@MageSkeleton 2 года назад
that went as expected, good job putting a Tier 2 deck (chatterfang) against a tier 3 deck (Orvar) and 2 Tier 5 decks. It sucks to load up one of these videos and know who the winner is.
@smack80
@smack80 2 года назад
pff who needs white cards?
@briandear1401
@briandear1401 2 года назад
I'm sorry muddstah but I'm pretty sure that this was the worst showing of your rhystic study draws.
@corhydrae3238
@corhydrae3238 2 года назад
It bothers me more than it should that you don't pronounce the aftermath cards as they're supposed to be read. It's "Never to Return".
@antonchichona6700
@antonchichona6700 2 года назад
How can you forget to double the squirrels when it's literally what the deck is built to do lol. Sometimes the misplays on this channel are too dumb.
@Genxim
@Genxim 2 года назад
That's not how Chatterfang works o_o
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
In what way?
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 2 года назад
Yes, it is. If you would create X tokens, you create X 1/1 squirrels in addition to those tokens.
@icuigorz
@icuigorz 2 года назад
Make your orvar deck faster. It seems like a very slow build.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад
It's a work in progress.
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