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Oregon & Northwestern: Last Train to Seneca 

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@samuelplew5630
@samuelplew5630 4 года назад
Just wow! I was always curious about this little covered RR. Rare locos in classic paint schemes traversing gorgeous scenery. What a shame it is lost. Thanks for the safari photos.
@theswitcher1
@theswitcher1 6 лет назад
Very well put together, the music is spot on for the mood it sets. I always wonder about all the people that worked for these long lost and abandoned industries what happened to them, as everyone always asks about the trains. Glad you where there to record this small but important piece of history. Thanks.
@JenniferBarker_morninghill
@JenniferBarker_morninghill 2 года назад
I live near Seneca. There are still old-timers that worked at the Hines Lumber mill. They are among the first to admit that the timber was cut at an unsustainable rate, leading to the closure of the facility.
@railroadjim
@railroadjim 6 лет назад
Wow, what a great pictorial capture of that railroad. I pulled it up on Google Maps and followed the satelite maps between Seneca, OR and Hines, OR. Neat to see how the ROW snakes around. I then followed the ROW from Seneca, OR all the way over to Vale, OR where there are still active tracks. Wow, lots of bridges and even a tunnel (which appears to be collapsed at the East end). Without much industry on the line, it's always amazing to thing that the railroad was built in the first place, but I guess lumber was king out here. Interestingly, between Seneca and Hines, at (43.627335, -119.005732), there appears to be a short piece of track left, which goes into a small building! Thanks again for taking the pictures back then and posting it now!
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
Yes, I think that shed was for track maintenance equipment.
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
@@BarnabasCollinsXIII The tracks were removed in 1988 according to several sources. Also, a check on Google Earth and Street View shows they are indeed gone.
@lukenolts4
@lukenolts4 5 лет назад
Wish they were still running today
@kjscoop7025
@kjscoop7025 4 года назад
What great shots!!! Thank you for doing what you did that day, I was turning 5 that month haha. I live in north west Oregon and am fascinated by the old rail lines I find on google maps, then study the history the best I can with old maps and internet. This is one of my favorite videos on you tube, I found it when I was trying to figure out what happened to the rail line in Seneca.
@tator05
@tator05 6 лет назад
Absolutely amazing! What a rare corner of the world to have this great coverage of! Thanks!
@normansilver905
@normansilver905 2 года назад
Thanks for posting. I drove weekly from Vale, OR to Hines and would see the O&N along the line that paralleled the highway.
@mackpines
@mackpines 5 лет назад
If you would like to know more about this historical operation pick up a copy of the book "Oregon and Northwesern Railroad" by Arcadia Publishing; great photos of the line and the Burns Branch of the UP. Also, pick up a copy of the book "Eastern Oregon Shortline Railroads" by Jeff Moore; they go great together.
@fmnut
@fmnut 5 лет назад
I have both, and used the Arcadia book extensively for research. My only exception with it is that it is inaccurate on the date of the second to last run which was March 1, not February 23 as stated in the book.
@jeffmoore4048
@jeffmoore4048 5 лет назад
As the coauthor on one of the books and author on the other...I think we didn't necessarily count the last run on March 6th as it was a cleanup run to get whatever was left in Seneca back to Burns before UP cleared town for the last time, but otherwise you're correct that the 23 February train Wayne chased technically was the third to last. Thanks for putting this video together and posting it!
@fmnut
@fmnut 5 лет назад
@@jeffmoore4048 That explains it! Just a matter of interpretation. Thanks for doing the books.
@peterhanahoe4913
@peterhanahoe4913 6 лет назад
Excellent stuff, really enjoyed this and amazing to think that someone from PA caught this.
@wizzells
@wizzells 6 лет назад
Great photography!
@romekmk7174
@romekmk7174 6 лет назад
Cool pictures !!! Cool video !!!
@donaldjones2394
@donaldjones2394 2 года назад
My stepfather used to haul lumber from the Bates mill to Seneca mill from 1968-1975
@lukenolts4
@lukenolts4 3 года назад
Amazing. Just a great view into the ONW. Wish the OERR decided to use them or would of started operations again
@floridianrailauto9032
@floridianrailauto9032 6 лет назад
Very good
@zsoren42
@zsoren42 Год назад
I always thought that all these small logging railroads that came up with the boom of logging throughout the Pacific Northwest of Idaho, Washington, Oregon and NorCal were so mysterious of how they operated small areas and towns not much was documented of them, even less was kept and they just disappeared in the mountains they served barley without a trace leaving us now to search and hunt to find them
@terrywitkowski6937
@terrywitkowski6937 6 лет назад
Those are beautiful Baldwins. I wonder why one has Andirondak trucks? I always loved the CNW.
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
FM and Baldwin both used the Commonwealth design 3 motor truck for their early models of C-C road switchers, as seen on O&NW 2, 3 and 4 in the photos. The rigid design had its shortcomings, and both builders switched in 1953 to tri-mount types, each of their own design, both manufactured by General Steel Castings. The FM version was single equalized and used under the famous Train Master, while Baldwin's version was double equalized. Due to Baldwin's low sales of 6 motor units after 1953, the truck only was used on a few orders of AS616's and RT624's. O&NW #1 was the ex-AS616 demonstrator and as such was the first unit equipped with these trucks. The term Adirondack for these trucks is incorrect, as Adirondack design tri-mount trucks were used under Alco locomotives. While similar in appearance to the Baldwin GSC tri-mount, differences can be seen with careful study of photos.
@terrywitkowski6937
@terrywitkowski6937 6 лет назад
I responded to your e-mail post. Yahoo said it didn't get sent. My sent messages said it was sent. There was 2 attachments were included. Pictures I sent were of derailments caused by either bad track on CNW and CNW Baldwin Hy-Brids were especially vulnerable. You know they were re-powered with GM 567 engines.
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
@@terrywitkowski6937 you can't send attachments in this comment space.
@terrywitkowski6937
@terrywitkowski6937 6 лет назад
Ok. What model of Baldwin loco is that? I can't find it in my Spotter's Guide.
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
@@terrywitkowski6937 All 4 ONW Baldwins were AS616. The 1 was distinctive for having the redesigned body with the higher hood, being the ex demonstrator for this mod. Only ONW, Trona, PRR and NdeM had AS616 in this configuration. The tri mount trucks went hand in hand with this body. It is covered in Kalmbachs DSG.
@olivei2484
@olivei2484 11 месяцев назад
I had viewed this video a while back, and never heard of this road before. We were talking about this road over the weekend and your film came up. I was wondering if you had more footage / photos and would you consider a part 2?
@fmnut
@fmnut 11 месяцев назад
See my video "Big Baldwin Loggers" covering ONW and Rayonier.
@olivei2484
@olivei2484 11 месяцев назад
@@fmnut Thanks! I guessed I missed this one.
@SmokeStack684
@SmokeStack684 6 лет назад
Very nice! Spooky music though. I could see Manny standing on top of the engine with his arms out stretched ready to accept his fate.
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
The music is from the Battlestar Galactica season 3 soundtrack
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
Who is Manny?
@SmokeStack684
@SmokeStack684 6 лет назад
Charles Manhiem. From the 1985 movie "Runaway Train" staring Jon Voight and Eric Roberts. I thought ALL train enthusiasts would have watched that movie. LOL
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
@@SmokeStack684 Yes, saw the film, just didn't catch the reference. A particularly bad train movie from a realism perspective as I recall.
@jessedarwich4121
@jessedarwich4121 3 года назад
@@fmnut I'm guessing it's basically like an old and worse version of Unstoppable?
@samuelb1234
@samuelb1234 3 года назад
Wow I have seen the old line today and its nothing
@RailPreserver2K
@RailPreserver2K 6 лет назад
I hope one of the engines are still running
@fmnut
@fmnut 6 лет назад
3 of the 4 engines are preserved in museums, #1 at Campo, CA and #3 and #4 at Portola. #2 was scrapped after the group that owned it defaulted. As far as I know none are in running condition.
@mikehawk2003
@mikehawk2003 4 года назад
@@fmnut The scrapping of #2 was truly a sad case. Very well could have been preserved with the right funds and people.
@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 3 года назад
# 2 was scrapped near Portland several years ago that I recall.
@paulcontreras4371
@paulcontreras4371 5 лет назад
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