Origins of 3D Pinball Space Cadet: Only a Demo? 

AFAIK in winrar's case, that was intended. Makes people rely on it, so they can charge the businesses that want to use it. Or something along those lines.

@powerChriZ Tallywort is right, WinRAR relies on people using the software for free

@@bigshrekhorner yup, there was a yt video in my recommended about it's infinite day trial.

Ambient Relaxation haha i know They most be proud

I remember watching that... I don't see why people don't just use 7zip

The next thing someone will tell us that the you could actually control the screensaver maze.

Wat

@@mogyesz9 That would be sick! Always wanted to play that maze game.

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Calculator had a pretty good campaign mode but it was overshadowed by all the Notepad DLC

Thankyou for introduce millions of people to computer gaming.

Not even gonna lie I didn’t believe you until I did my research. You sir are a legend. Thank you for making the first pc game I ever played along with Task Manager.

LGR should pin your comment.

Clint, please collab with this guy!

You’re a legend!

In 2024, it’s still awesome stuff.

Well not really

They should sell the full version on Steam, I know I would buy it if the price isn't expensive.

Because you had no idea.

rick25810 dose not exist.

rick25810 i'd buy it if it was under $20 or if it was free

It's very rare I get 30 seconds into a video and have that happen, but this did it.

Now that's motivation. Kudos to that teacher!

The roe Team go, grandma!! 😂👍🏼

Probably my best memories with my grandpa was going back and forth trying to beat the others high score.

Joseph Sanders was it often you passed him?

@@KazzArie Maaaybe once a week, but he would have a new high score by the next day most of the time.

Gamer grandma

I did this so much back in the day. So much 9,999,999,999,999 score!

Why did I never know about this!!!!

@@hrgwea how could you?

hidden [space] test

Never knew about that. Just tried it. It was epic.

I played the shit out of this game along with crystal caliburn.

Mine as well

I remember being at my grandparents house and they had dial up internet, and I would just sit on their computer and play this and civ2, though civ2 was a bit advanced for my 10 year old mind without guides and instructions back then.

yup ruined childhood

Played this so much on my school's computer lab back in the day. Good times.

for it was the TRUE Cadet......I'll see myself out

Nostalgia

I feel like you're saying that in a prideful way but that really does suck for the people who made it.

True, Space Cadet is not complete without the smiling feller in the spaceship.

@@LUNITICWILL Yes I get it. Congratulations. Someone got it. Don't know what to say

I wasn't trying to impress anyone. I was merely reminiscing which is the point of this video.

I dont think he was being sarcastic. This game is a legend and probably one of the most popular games by copies ever. People in all continents have played this, regardless of social class, race or religion.

i liked every comment in this post because everyone is right, even when someone was wrong that someone was also right in some regards lol

Thanks!

I was just about to say the same thing!! kinda wish it had a mouse come on screen to x it out.

Agreed!

I briefly worked in an office that due to running specialty programs, had to run run Windows XP and even though this was 2016 the employees still played this. I dont remember the high scores or anything but they were sky high since it'd been running for over a decade.

MINESWEEPER!!!

My mom is really big on Solitaire; I'm more of minesweeper and Daggerfall guy myself

@@slavvingsquats2146 Daggerfall wasn't included on Windows machines by default lmao. "One of these things is not like the others"

@@JazzyWaffles I know I'm just saying I liked playing it as a kid

More like worst demo of all time. Almost no one even knew it was a demo for anything!

Not even close. Doom wins that award any day of the week! It was actually a good game, too, unlike this unplayable piece of rubbish.

​@@Mattrophiedyou probably don't know the 2000s

mine was snake

+Gamelog no i had it for a really old windows machine my neighbor had given me

Freddi fish yes

this wasnt my first PC game (not to unusual now, but i was playing on computers and cruising online since i was 3 or 4 around '95) but it was one of the first PC games i played regularly and to date is my all time favorite pinball game

Darian Alexander this was mine too

Everyone knows that Space Cadet was made by Maxis as it's credited in the About window in Soace Cadet 1995 Maxis Game, 1999 updated for Windows 2000

paint was supposed to be free as a limited time offer in 1985

Yeah the Microsoft GS Wavetable is just low quality Roland sc-55

If they licensed it and the license allowed it, or outright bought the company that made it, they pretty much can do whatever they want with it. Even MS-DOS wasn't really made by them but they bought out the guy and his company that made it.

and hyperterminal... One of the few competent programs bundled with Windows 95. Discovered years later of course it wasn't an MS product, which is why it was good, and why it disappeared.

Me too!

@@pokemonpreadythepokemonmaniac I still play works perfectly in modern windows and Linux too

At the very least, ads all over the place. When I first booted up Solitaire in Win10 and saw a commercial for Twix, I was floored... ugh.

I just found a way to install all the old Windows games back ... I hate the metro technology stack

Win 10 no longer includes games there free downloads with minesweeper gaining a Chips challenge like adventure mode and Xbox achievements'. Like your first death is one.

Well, I found i in the app store for free, so... :D

If you just want the demo, copy the old .exe and fire it up.

i am from romania and in 2006 i got my first PC and in that time romania was not a thnological country and my family is poor for european standards because $>LEI

i played back in 2002

I was playing Space Cadet all days, until 2006 when some guy told me a game called "Age of Empires III" came out. After installing it, i was like "OH THE GRAPHICS". Some game like that makes my XP computer can only run in like 5-10 fps with the lowest settings. Memories.

Played in 2008

Ceapa Verde lol și eu sunt român

Lots of early flash games have been lost, for sure. I remember some weird Java-based sci fi RPG that I will never find again. I remember Wiz Kid 2 and 3, and all its spin offs. That squirrel one where you were collecting gems. That first big MMO flash tank game where you could get like 50 people on a map and it blew my mind. Good times.

The old shockwave was uncontested for games.

>quality You're funny

Shockwave and flash... holy.

Good old Miniclip

Draydince Man, if this is a joke, it's subtle as all get out.

Have you heard about Santa yet?

How nostalgic

Damn I forgot about "Like Humans Do"

Counting Talking Heads or no?

Same here brother.

Yup. :)

I played it on Windows me Windows 2000 Windows Xp all separate computers

I was so sad when they stopped including it in Windows.

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Rayman 2 is way better than Rayman 3.

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I always wanted Roller-coaster Tycoon, but my parents got me Prison Tycoon. Was still fun though.

Age of empires? Starcraft? Oh so many memories 😁

And judging by your avatar, Deus Ex too, right? Good choices all around.

Not all of them though. I remember playing some other (other than Maxis) pinball and it was a mess. The camera would follow the ball, so you never saw the full table all the time. I imagine some people actually like it better that way, but i sure don't. 😖

What? This game was considered extremely primitive even when it was brand new. Ever seen Pinball Dreams/Fantasies/Illusions, Slam Tilt, or even Sonic Spinball? They're what pinball games are supposed to be like. And they all ran on FAR less powerful hardware than this piece of shit required.

It might not look the best even today, in 2023, but I do believe those graphics while dated, have their charm. Playing even in 1028x768 resolution, I mean, while it could be much better, I consider that more than enough (at least as someone who only has 1920x1080 monitor themselves)

I never ran my computers at low resolution. It does explain why old games like this looked tiny on my home computers compared to the ones at school

Same bro I'm shocked this game is 1024x768 I thought it's only 640x480

Put Win2000 on it. It will wake up and play this game at a wooping 8k 60fps resolution.

When i was young, the ball kept going out of the wormhole, bounce around and go right back in for like 15 mins

+Jake Schmidt Lucky You!

@@MLGGUY420Official maybe. It was cool for like the first 5 mins, then it was boring because there was nothing i knew i could do lol. It was wormhole, bounce, bounce wormhole, repeat. For 15 mins lol

The game demo has a debug mode. just type hidden test and you can control the ball by click and hold

@@MLGGUY420Official sweeet

A good question that I do not know the answer to! Hopefully someone comes along that does :)

DirectX 1.0 came on September 30, 1995. Full Tilt! Pinball came on October 31, 1995. So it uses DirectX. DirectX 1.0 didn't had Direct3D yet, which is fun to mention.

I would actually be surprised if it used EITHER! About ALL winG did was provide you access to the framebuffer for direct and/or semi direct (palette transitioning) rendering. Handy if you're doing stuff like trying to use your own polygon drawing, depth sorting, or per-pixel rendering for things like raycasting.... it really didn't provide any advantages over just shoving bitmaps on the screen using the plain-Jane windows API. Assuming a static background, there were plenty of calls in Windows for handling the writing of bitmaps to the screen without resorting to directX or WinG... and it was actually fairly speedy at it to. You could easily pass an AND map and OR of your image for per pixel transparency all the way back to Windows 3.0. If it wasn't, programs like Paintbrush, Paint Shop Pro, etc, etc... wouldn't exist. Hell, just look at "Microsoft Arcade" for Win 3.x that didn't need any fancy API just to draw those classic games. You get to "return of Arcade" they're moving more stuff around, but I most verily doubt they used DirectX or WinG for those either! Go back even further to things like the Microsoft Entertainment Packs, and sure those games are more primitive, but the system requirements are even that much lower. (@LRG, not to give you any ideas on stuff to review, hint, hint) These games aren't doing anything that would/should warrant the need of a fancy graphics API above and beyond what even Windows 3.x could deliver. Mostly it just needed enough CPU to keep up. Pinball is a GREAT game for creating on lesser machines, because the board just sits there, and only a handful of things ever move/change per frame. The overhead of implementing such a game is most always entirely in collision detection, angles of deflection, and momentum, not drawing it on screen. Well, unless you're going to make the whole screen scroll like Silverball does... which from a purely technical standpoint is significantly more impressive.

Jason Knight I've written games that use GDI BitBlt calls to draw the screen. It's possible to get a playable framerate, but very hard to get anything like the super-smooth framerate exhibited by Space Cadet Pinball. Add in things like the dynamically scaling ball, and you begin to see a real use case for something like WinG or DX1.

Jason Knight Also, Return of Arcade does in fact use WinG.

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No wonder our gen loves to eat ass

We already knew he was a thrustmaster.

Don't even get me started on "Benedict Dragonsnatch".

Nah, I prefer to talk on Quest for Butter

cloudesuu lolololololololol... At least that part was anyway...

Enjoy the food (and the video!)

No, Windows Space Cadet does not have multiball. Period. It has extra balls instead. Maybe you were a lucky one to have played the Full Tilt! Pinball version :)

nope, it didn't. i have it right here in front of me

P2000Camaro Mandela effect

I also played the multiball version and it wasn't the Full Tilt! version either..

I remember the same. I distinctly recollect my version having multiball function

I'd play this & modded KSP.

Dude same lol.

Same

Same lol, this is my first PC game before I knew a big titles of pc game

Thank you!

Ooh, yeah! I totally forgot about multiball mode!

Win9x held on by its fingernails for as long as it did for a reason. NT was and is a pig

Ooh, nice solution.

Yep, EA owns all Maxis properties, but they have since 1997! Licensing isn't the issue. Also, Pinball Star is not an official replacement either, it is by "Rolling Donut Apps" and not Microsoft.

johannes nordeng I did too...

I don't know how likely it is, but I'd love to see re-releases of this and all the other old Maxis titles!

They released DA in GOG even...So i guess it is not entirely impossible if people ask for it.

They should. I mean, they like making money right? If they charge $5 or so for it, I am sure they will sell a lot, and it should not cost them much at all to put it up for sale.

If you want something similar try Pinball Deluxe on Steam Alexander :)

And an additional 5.99 for each bumper. 16.99 for the plunger. 20 if you want the deluxe one that gives you an instant 10 million point upon launch.

Julian Natale Well, it was packaged with windows

Julian Natale it isnt illogical. think about the times those came out and how one of them was bundled.

Also, Half Life was only for people that can stand FPS genre, while Pinball genre has much greater appeal.