Orkney island: What might a green future look like? 

Great to have the channel 4 guys here in Orkney 😊

The pv panels and battery is a tried and tested system. Have it myself and depending on your power company the pay back can be about 5 years....that's in Republic of Ireland. The system will last for over 25 years so the savings are huge.

MPs who get 'donations' from fossil fuel providers wont allow this to happen

Good to see Jonathan on national news as he knows his subject and is the kind of person that should be advising government due to his practical experience with domestic renewables and BEVs.

Nice positive news!

My energy bill for the last two months has been £7 and £5 respectively, until you add the £60 standing charge.

But so good to see Johnathan Porterfield🎉 see you at Everything Electric

Here’s old 70 year old me trying to reduce my bills and save the planet so I install solar panels. Next thing electricity prices go through the roof. I’m pleased I have done so. What do they do, they more than double the standing charge. So now they charge me more for not using electricity than I paid when I used it. The standing charge is more than 50% of my bill. Can’t win can we.

Could have started this 15 years ago.. great to see the tech finally getting off the ground..

That homeowner should start his own RU-vid channel showing how to buy and setup all that! My hat off to him! Excellent report by the way and Orkney Island has some really smart ingenious people living there!

Always interesting and hopeful when individuals take steps in areas where GOVERNMENTS FEAR TO TREAD! Thanks for a positive tale about LIVING GREEN!

I have 2 pv panels and solar hot water on my roof, my usual bill about 18 euros per month in portugal

Wonderful - a lovely bright moment in my day, thank you C4 🙂

Does anybody else feel like the hydrogen guy is talking nonsense? He's got to expend a tonne of energy to produce the hydrocarbon 'synthetic fuel' but that energy could surely be going to people and battery powered cars? Lots of countries are already working on all-electric planes, too, and battery tech is getting better every year so why create a merry-go-round for a product that takes a lot of energy to create, requires a lot more to store *safely*, and if it isn't handled properly explodes?

Had solar and batteries for three years now, no paid for any energy since March.

Experimentation, great to see, only way we find a path forward

Amazing place

It depends on what the savings are spent on , a point entirely missed by those using saving money as a prompt and not stopping emissions as the goal . Your total carbon budget is what matters and it needs to be under 3t/yr pp and really nearer 1t/year to start reversing some of the catastrophe that is unfolding now.

I love my solar/battery setup. I put nearly3.7Mwh into the grid and that nearly paid my gas bill. Last month my total energy bill (gas and electric) was £19.92!

Interesting report really enjoyed watching, informative

My energy use was also just over £15 last month but the standing charge was £27!

Technology really is incredible nowadays!

Great video. Would be great to see the empty landscape rewilded as well 💚

An EV is a big battery on wheels. If it can transport two tons of cars and passengers two hundred miles, it should be available for our electrical appliances when not needed for travelling.

Mine was £48 living in midwales and no batteries at all just gas and electricity

Hundred percent agree Apart from we don’t need hydrogen . Nuclear Instead hydrogen. electrify everything else. .

Good Job! 👍

I always have a question for those with solar panels in northern locations. (Jonathan) In winter you get less than 10% output…just when you need it most. So an alternative is required, but as solar is so cheap, the alternative only gets used for a short period of time, making it highly expensive. So, is it not better to invest in the alternatives and drop solar, making the alternatives economical.

Go visit it's amazing

Yes, electrify what can be electrified and make synthetic fuel for the rest. Methanol for running ships for example.

May only cost him £15 a month, but how much is he had in subsidies to get the whole system sorted out?

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His maths don’t add up? My electricity is £80 a month (gas is £60). His 15k outlay would take me 15 years to repay.

Unfortunately by the time the Chinese, Indians, Americans catch up the Orkneys will be under water.

its mad they live in Orkney but all sound english 😂

Stabbing in Liverpool a few hours ago. Two women witnessed it all and said a foreign man tried to attack youths… you don’t hear this in the news..

The figure is the metal (chemical)heat battery eg a metal like magnesium can be burned in carbon dioxide to produce Magnesium Oxide and black carbon, surplus electricity is then used to remake magnesium metal so the fuel is Magnesium Metal and CO2 the output is magnesium oxide and carbon . This is just an example to explore a possibility

there plan to ditch hydrogen is so short sighted, hydrogen generation is a key factor for trucks, air, heating using a populous that was predominantly diesel to begin with it was obvious that Orkney would clearly go to electric only for all there services since its a test bed for technology trials with a constant surplus, but for Britain as a whole, as the saying is don't put your eggs in one basket, over 30% of the rail network is still non electrified, and may never be electrified because of the cost to change can't be justified to numbers. as the individual said using decarbonisation to generate fuel will be hard to justify because it cost 5 times more to generate, its not cost effective for a large proportion of trucking to convert, dumpers, cranes, automotive relay, dump trucks, its far more convenient to dedicate a rest stop and add hydrogen refilling, something that truckers have been demanding for a number of years so they can shower, use a laundry eat, and sleep with there loads protected by police/security. biofuels may make an attempt but to long hall hydrogen is still more economical than battery period, whist ev may have taken over local bus routes, hydrogen is still preferred method for coches and tours, and no one is talking about the weight issue, already metal hawlage trucks can hit 69 tonns, and drive often 500 miles per tank, our roads simply cannot take another 40 tons on top, yet with a dedicated hydrogen truck the weight penalty is only around 12 tonns, with mayers delibratly making it harder for truck deliverys by adding more tolls and CC charges for deliverys, customers will be forced to pay the bills that pushes up inflation, the small businesses can't obsorb these costs and shut down or try to relocate out of town if viable, but many can't, GAS must still flow, and hydrogen has to be a part of it, not only to cut imports, but also be a renewable source for national energy independence, labours policy leaves everyone at risk of the market prices as well as world conficts, there plans will cost us SIGNIFICANLY more to generate, no one is talking about the mulitimillion pound decommissioning cost, or the 70% uk housing NOT ready to get a cop 4.6 rating, where costs with the increased cap will be viable, there is no plan to increase winter stocks of gases , something the regulator has recommended, that would cut winter hikes, and ensure both grid and production can continue in a cost effective manor, with the regulator increasing the cap the average 4 bed 4 person family willbe looking at over 2700 on duel fuel,

And he still says "decarbonise" at the end. Like the man says at 2:41, we don't need to do it, if the carbon is obtained renewably from the atmosphere - to where it returns. Everything can be NetZero if we 'recarbonise' 'retrochemicals'. Decarbonisation has always been a red herring.

Wait until winter sets in or bad weather. The solar is useless. In the summer it’s fantastic I admit, the man forgets to tell you this.lol

looks like a really nice place to live alot going on im sure you'll make lots of new friends and experiences really grasp life by the horns

How much to instal his whole system ?

Fantastic for him. But how does £15k in equipment investment get recouped in 3.5 years? I can't imagine his energy bills were £4300. per year, even in wind swept Orkney. Our energy and fuel costs are about £1800. per year in P&K.

Solar in Orkney? Wind would be far better

and how much are you paying in subsidies and Green taxes every month ? Not something people remember to take into account.

Great makes us normal energy consumers jealous

2:41 Synthetic hydrocarbons is the technology everybody says doesn't work. It's the one 'Air Fuel Synthesis' said 12 years ago would give petrol at £2/litre before we had renewable energy supplies so large we have to throw electricity away and pay to do it.

I’m all for effective renewables, but stop banging on about carbon. Carbon dioxide emissions in the atmosphere are not a “problem”. CO2 is not heating the planet.

Noticed none of them had Scottish accents.

Standing charges are a joke. Energy is so cheap, yet i have to pay triple my usage since the extreme standing charge increase during the start of the Ukraine war.

And not a Scottish accent in sight!

3:35 the math just dosen't add up. there will always be wasted energy and by adding more steps you're getting less range... you may as well just use the power from orbital 2 to power electric cars. Unless the fuels can be used by existing cars. then i guess the problems with making electric cars requiring more carbon may actually work. god dammit, i've worked my way out of my own argument

Just isn't going to work in the inner cities is it? Once the new labour greener tax begins (to pu ish those livivg in the countryside I mean) it wont feel so good there either.

If you think capitalism will allow you to pay £15 for same level of energy consumption, you must be naive.

I feel like the guy going on about carbon seems to be lying

I have solar but I would never put a battery in the house…

Now mention the carbon footprint to do this & the cost to the individual 🤔🤫

No it won’t. Trust me. I bought solar panels that generates more power than I use. After a few years with near 0 bills, my expenses are almost back to normal. People might see Denmark as a green eco country but it is only as long as it doesn’t benefit the public. All my savings are gone. I have to pay feed in tariffs. The transmission tariffs are also though the roof, sometimes 4x the kWh price between 17:00 and 21:00 when you get home from work and need to use electricity. Get paid market price for my solar, which is zero today. Sometimes I even have to pay to send power back to the grid. It is a scam. The only people who benefits are the big companies with lobbyists. They still get the promised price for selling their electricity. We are getting screwed and no one cares.

Update , the magical ‘heat battery’ failed for the third time just after this was filmed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JC88zrcAjes.htmlsi=mDwlvcgY2vLk0pUZ

Chanel 4 is lying as usual. Ofgem's approved Standing charge for Electricity and Gas is over £12 each a month (EACH!). i.e. just being connected to Gas and Electricity grids cost you £25 a month! Why Chanel 4 always lies?

Treehugger BS.

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Electric vehicles/solutions are weather dependant. For example, the average EV takes 15 to 20 hours to charge when the temperature drops below 10 celsius, charging at a pathetic 10 amps. You can see people in London driving EV's around in their pyjamas desperately looking for a charging station because the temperature as dropped significantly causing charging seizure, the grid can't cope and so on.. These facts have caused people to turn towards HEV's. Any hybrid solution causes costs to spiral because it means you have additional systems that need to be serviced. People are not making sufficient progress on the road to utilise the electrical system they've already paid for. The Orkney tidal power system currently can only support 0.00007% of UK homes. It has adverse effect on the wild life. Maintenance can only occur at tide slack. The area is littered with failed experiments. It's ultimately expensive both in the short and long term. Making people poorer.

This is NOT how a green future would look like. California is discussing adding a tax to electric vehicles per mile they drive. Look it up.

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Hydro is no good

Clap trap, none of these things can be scaled up at low cost.