Oh you can't hear it? That's too bad because it's literally the greatest song in the world. It's glorious. There was my life before listening to the song and now there's my life after listening to it. I'm a new man
Well im very glad I was able to hear the initial setup sounds, really made the needle hitting the vinyl and everything going silent for the rest of the video really impactful
The Ortofon has a clearer, if brighter sound to me. The AT is more deeper, bass sound. I prefer the AT. The only thing about audiophile, is the obsessing to extremes. Ok, have a good system within budget, but enjoy relaxing and listening to the music without dissecting each part of it.
Great comparison, and props for choosing one of the best possible vinyl records ever made. Brothers In Arms is such a pure recording and sounds so perfect on vinyl. As for the comparison, it seems the AT lacks some mods where the Ortofon accentuates the highs a touch too much. I'd say the Red would be my pick, only because the treble could be slightly reduced in the receiver/preamp, where the lack of mids can't easily be brought back.
It’s a really nice comparison. You can really hear the higher detail with the Ortofon. I have the same deck with the AT cartridge. While I love the warmth of the AT it’s always sounded muddy to me. I ordered a Red 2M after watching this. Thanks. 👍🏻
don´t do it ,i have a lot experience with turntables and i was amazed how bad was the quality of the 2mred from Ortofon , i remenber when Ortofon ment quality for sure , i tested thisv cartridge and stylus in new turntables and also in 70´s turntables and i think i had never listened to such a bad sound ,if anyone tells you that it´s good it´s because they just don´t know what is a turntable and what quality of sound it delivers , this AT cartridge ,20 years ago with this reference from AT was a good sounding cartridge but today i just don´t know if AT followed this fashion of badly built and bad sounding cartridges, i even put to work a turntable with it´s original cartridge and stylus from pioneer bought in 1974 and it sounded really bad installed in a Pro-Ject turntable compared to the sound of the 74 turntable and stylus from Pioneer PC-30 cartridge, i would buy a nagaoka cartridge of the same price, oh, only noticed this now ,it´s a 2 year old coment ,hope you ´re happy with the sound of your turntable
a good auditor does not need to see to differentiate a sound, but the difference between the two is noticeable, the orthophon is sharper, sharper, lower, medium, and higher. I have a set of Epc 270 technical capsules with a shure n70Ej needle with similar cost values to the At 95E, which is better than both in sound quality, this set corresponds to the blue orthofon!
@@fawu Agreed - I was using Beryer-Dynamic DT-770 Pro & AudioTechnica M50H in my listen. I'm going to get a high end Audio-Technica cartridge though ;)
Thanks for the video this is exactly the upgrade I'm doing now on the same turntable. Big difference in sound going to the red but the AT95 is a great all-around stylus, especially as a back up!
oh yeah for those of you that can't hear much difference, keep your focus on the snare's timbre - I hear a fuller, wider and brighter snare with the 2M Red.
love the comparison. Ortofon has the edge here but considering its more than twice the price of the AT95E - it should sound better. A closer price comparison would be the AT100E to the 2m
I purchased the 2M Red to replace the AT 95E on my Fluance RT81 turntable. After a month I went back to the AT 95E. I found the 2M Red to be somewhat harsh and high pitched. The AT 95E has a warmer sound to my ears. Just one man’s opinion.
@davidgena How do you like the Fluance RT81?! I've been back and forth on that or the AT-lp120, there's just not as much info on the and actual owner feedback on the RT81.. Like money aside, having owned it and being that you're probably pretty familiar with the lp120 bcuz of vids like this, what's your opinion and pros/cons and which would you get if they were the exact same price?! Thanks in advance for the help dude!!
exactly the same view as yours. in the long run, at95e is much nicer to listen to, i do not tire of it. Giant many discs from 70 and 80 are already bright with a little bass and then 2mr red becomes very difficult. at95e is generally best if you listen to everything from metal, rock, disco, italy, techno, etc. One advantage 2m red would have is if you come to jazz female singers then you can get more benefit otherwise at95e is king for daily listening.
The Ortafon sounds like it’s emphasis is on mids and highs while the AT is more recessed in those areas , but the difference is like the difference between two cables or two amplifiers, it’s just a different flavour of presentation. The choice depends on how you like your steak to be cooked, it’s still a steak but it’s presented just the way you like it. There is no right or wrong, otherwise there would be only one piano or only one guitar, instead there are many and they all have their place in someone’s nirvana. But If you truly enjoy music, then you can enjoy it on anything, even a Bluetooth speaker that costs a tenner!
The Ortofon is considerably louder. For these kinds of comparisons, ideally you would have to level match the samples using a DAW, otherwise people might be fooled by the "louder is better" effect.
The Audio-Technica is overall a little more balanced at high volumes... While listening to the song I turned my phone’s volume all the way up and the Audio-Technica was still more pleasant to the ear than the Ortofon.
Ortofon is like a Canton, speaker, and AT is Infinity, or Mission :) Here is how I mean it: like the details and mid-high region and wider stereo of Ortofon, but could enjoy AT''s warm sound for longer period. It is interesting that this is only YT audio, but with a good headphone, you can spot the difference. Not an absolute quality, but the differences between them.
But you are refering to a 1980 Canton Plus S, Ergo, or 1988 Karat20 because these days Canton's metal components do not sound ever near as good as the 1980 Cantons
Great video! Listening with my b&w headphones i can clearly hear a big difference. The red is a brighter with more separated sound. For the money the AT sounds just fine though.
WTF?!! Probably one of the most popular songs of the mid 80's! Dire Straits - Walk Of Life. you must be a millennial? Or lived under a rock in the 80's Lol
FANTASTIC VIDEO, 2M Red is the way to go. I would love if you could do the same thing with and without the pre amp in the Audio-Technica. Thanks for all your hard work.
É, a Ortophon é melhor mesmo. E não é uma questão de curva de equalização. A Ortophon consegue dar uma definição melhor aos agudos. Muito boa esta comparação!
They both sound great. I will agree that the 2M Red is a tad brighter and the AT95 was warmer by comparison. Guess it all boils down to preference but either one will satisfy the need to enjoy your vinyl collection.
Подскажите пожалуйста, чем отличаются мм головки от мс? И я могу любую музыку включить на мм типа, как и эту же пластинку, поставить под мс? Или, как? я только пытаюсь разобраться. Дошёл пока, до того, что есть в фонокорректорах и усилителях, два входа мм-мс , в зависимости от того, какой нужен переключаешь. Может, стоять два стола, на одном мм игла, на другом мс. Или один стол, два тонарма, с разными головами. Но мс картриджи и головы стоят дороже, как я понял не все столы, могут работать с мс головой. Так для, чего тогда нужен мс тип? И могу ли, я послушать любую пластинку на обычной мм голове и не заморачиваться с мс? Ответьте пожалуйста, благодарен.
Смотря какую музыку вы слушаете, если классику, джаз, блюз, то берите мс головку, если рок, электронику, метал, то мм. И то если подключите мс головку к дешёвой аппаратуре она не заиграет.
listened while reading comments, not looking at the video til I heard a difference there is definitely a difference with the red is clearer and brighter which I prefer, the green one is a little muffled not as clear. I'll change my cartridge to that one, thanks for the video comparison
You should’ve used the same type headshell and wiring for both to rule out any unrelated differences. However, I have both and I like the AT95e better tho. I have cartridges ranging from about 30 (Ortofon OM Pro) to ~1100 (Benz Micro Glider SL) and I think the AT95e is the best in the 0 to ~140 range.
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I couldn’t hear the difference. Either when looking to see when the changes happened or when I looked away to not be influenced by my sight. Probably just means my ears aren’t that good but it saved me $60 on a replacement cartridge.
Might the first comparison video where I could legit hear the changes with my eyes close. Neither sounded bad, but the Red did sound maybe louder and more up front without actually being louder.
Quick question... Was that que speed of the tonearm kinda on the slow slide? I recently redid mine and thought it to be okay, but it drops alittle faster than yours. Hoping I did mine right!
I could see the Red being more fatiguing, actually, which is a strange thing to say since most AT's have fatiguing high end. The 95 seems quite pleasant, though, and I'd probably choose it for long listening. Anyway, you really can't find another cart that sounds like that at the low price they're going for! Great vid.
The Ortofon has a noticeably brighter sound. This cartridge sounds more open and alive. I like that. The 95E sounds pretty ordinary much like most AT cartridges I've tried. The high end sounds rolled right off compared to the Ortofon. I have had an Ortofon Omega1e cartridge in my AT-LP 120 over two years. In my opinion this little cartridge far outperforms the AT95 E cartridge. I'm sold on Ortofon.
Does the Ortofon 2M Red has a higher output voltage? Because it sounds louder. In general I would say that the Ortofon presents a broader spectrum and hence a fuller sound. I recently purchased the AT95E, moneywise it is a great element.
I bought a 2M Red and OM5E at the same time. The OM5E was a third of the price, and I preferred it ! Also have the AT95e, which is a good listen but not quite as 'in yer face.' I've always found Ortofon to have a big bass, but a bit smudgey. Can't beat Shure!
Listening though my Sony 1000Xm2 headphones and the difference is significant. The ortofon is for sure much clearer in the highs. Much more brighter and engaging!
I've got both of these cartridges in the same shells as depicted here. I also have the same turntable. What is subject to critique here is the stylus to headshell tail distance of each cartridge appears to be different. Each should be set at 53mm. One more thing, the stylus rake may be different too. The Ortofon cart appears angled too high and the A-T cart appears too low. That's a certainty with the A-T 95, unless it's been shimmed; and, the VTA adjustment range on the A-T turntable may not be adequate enough to level the Ortofon. So, I would expect the carts to sound different, as well as not deliver their best performance. In my experiments, the A-T 95 has always sounded smooth; and the 2M Red might be even smoother on the A-T turntable. The bottom line is there's not a penny's worth of difference which could yield a conclusion that one sounded better than the other. Now, I still prefer the Ortofon 2M Red for other attributes. It's easier to mount to a headshell for proper alignment. It's rugged, It's inexpensive. It tracks well. The stylus is well protected from mishandling. And, overall, on most music I've listened to, it delivers a similar tone as heard playing a CD of same material. That's to say for the most part the vinyl and CD versions of music can not be distinguished as sounding different. I like the 2M Red so much that I now have one mounted to the tonearm of my Technics SL-1210GR and although I know it is not getting all there is out of the groove it still satisfies, delivering music which is very pleasant to listen to.
Eyes closed, easy to hear when it opened up, meaning it was easy to hear when it switched from the AT to the Ortofon. I had that AT95E in my previous turntable. It has to be one of the best bargains out there. I loved it. I have a more expensive TT now and won't be going back to the AT95E, but I can say that anyone who gets one as an upgrade over a super cheap cartridge will be able to listen for hours without becoming fatigued. Such a good cartridge for the money. I think the Ortofon Red is good as well, but if I was upgrading from the AT95E, I would take a couple of steps up rather than just one and go for the Blue or the AT VM95ML, both of which which blow the Ortofon Red away.
I have this Audio-Technica LP120-USB turntable. How did you record this off the USB? I have it connected to my phono RCA jacks on my stereo receiver and I get a hum. Do you get a hum?
So if I buy the cartridge, will it fit on the headshell that comes with the ATLP120? I still don't really understand the whole tonearm, cartridge, and headshell compatablity thing
It's kinda hard to tell, the actual quality of the record is amazing. But the 2M sounds a bit louder and spacious then the AT95, The 2M Red seems like the perfect fit for every TT if you're not a huge audiophile.
Really? I would bet that even at 73 you'd hear the difference using some proper equipment. Unless you are on Apple's AirPod Pro's which are .. well... bit more than okayish, their other earplugs really are FAR, FAR from being HiFi/audiophile stuff. No wonder you couldn't tell a difference.
@@traxonwax Yes. Absolutely. The tambourine sounds real on the AT but sounds like hash on the Ortofon. Also: The Ortofon sounds nasal to me if that makes sense.
Agree. Most of people will on the surface get the idea of “better” mid range with Ortofon. the AT has better stereo field and well balanced (for its price range) from my perspective. The only reason is that Ortofon has higher output voltage than AT which obviously an instant winner for most listeners
I find the 2M more open than the AT but ever so slightly harsh, a better phono stage with adjustable loading would allow the 2M to shine. The 2M blue sounds much better than the red being more detailed and smoother... but again, I think you’d appreciate the differences more on a better deck and with a better phono stage. In all honesty, I’d rather have the AT95 mounted on a Rega P3 and playing through something like a Schiiit mani phono stage than either the 2M red or blue on an LP120 with its built in phono stage. You can hear some tonal differences and the difference in stereo separation in this video but the deck and phono stage doesn’t allow any of these cartridges to perform to their potential.
@@elboricuamayor2312 Exactly. I have to manually drop the stylus on mine. There's a fix for it but you have to take a few things apart and add a specific kind of gel-like fluid. There's a RU-vid somewhere on how to do that.
I can't tell much difference, except the Ortofon seems louder to me--almost to the point that it would probably be fatiguing after a while. At the end of the day, it all comes down to your personal taste.
Hola fio una pregunta, para la prueba de sonido del Ortofon 2m red con la AT 95E en la tornamesa Audio Technica LP120 utilisaste el pre amplificador interno de la tornamesa o utilizaste la entrada Phono de la tornamesa?
The Ortofon is decidedly bright. Good test record, I remember this from Dire Straits. They have a lot on the high end - true ‘80s synth. The AT’s sound is darker. Ortofon hit it big in the ‘80s when they partnered with Dual. Their sound still reflects this heritage. Audio-Technica seek a broader sound. They got it.
Ortofon blue, for me has been the way to go when it is red vs blue. With AT's - its the green vs the yellow- orange. The best for the money? The AT VM 59 ML - which is the yellow/ orange cart -stylus. I have the ortofon Blue 2M and the AT VM 59 ML for serious listening - clean records. For worn or older records The AT 3600L or ATN 91 red. - these also sound great on any records and are very budget friendly. They also sound great on many turntables. But for the money - and higher fidelity - nude stylus- The AT VM 59 ML. If you set it up right, it sounds really great on a decent turntable. For 150 - they come pre mounted for L shaped arm turntables. They are 119 for the cart.
Listen to this video with your eyes closed, when the carts change, the picture in your head will change size, if it doesnt happen with the first time, try 2 or more. With me, i would not realize that this track was played with 2 different carts if i did not know, they both sound nice but i prefer the ortofon because i think it sounds more lively. Ortofons have less tolerance with scratches and static charged records, they shine when records are in good shape, i cannot have opinion about AT cause i never had one, truth is that for this money these are excellent carts to enjoy the vinyl sound. I have the 2m red and i am very satisfied.
Первое впечатление от ортофон имеет вау, но при каждодневном прослушивании начинает утомлять. У AT95 более сбалансированный звук, который не приедается. Ну и конечно звук будет очень разный от вашей вертушки и фонокоректора. Спасибо что помогаете сравнивать головки.
Через ютюб мало вероятно услышать как оно есть. И от системы, и от вкусов слушателя зависит, что для него лучше подойдет. С моего компа АТ мутновата на сч.И вроде этот альбом в циыое сделан был, по такому звучанию проверять вертушки некорректно.
При прослушивании на телефоне даже слышно, что ортофон звучит жёстче и не приятно для уха, АТ мягче и приятнее. А что будет, если послушать сравнение на хорошей аппаратуре, я думаю, что это всё увеличится в разы.
The Ortofon is a bit mid-scooped compared to the AT, but it has clearer highs and a wider, more spacious stereo sound stage. Mark's vocals sounded more realistic, too.
The definitely sound different from each other. The 95 sounds ever so slightly "duller". I was surprised I noticed. I have good headphones, but I'm a hearing aid wearer, and I don't wear them while wearing headphones. I'm not deaf. I only wear the hearing aids in large meetings at work. But the red does sound better. BTW, I own the green. 'course, I also own an ADC ZLM, an at15sa and at155. But at the end of the day a tone control seems to be the solution to this thing. I don't know if the red is "clearer" or if it just has a different frequency response.
It all comes to personal taste and age of the listener. I'm 56, and at this age, I know that I do not hear the high frequencies in the same way as I did when I was 17. To me, the Red sounds better.
ortofon ela e oferece graves e medios graves mais encorpados, quanto áudio technica oferece médio grave e agudos sendo uma escala decimal sonora menor perceptíveis a audições absolutas ou audição treinada,mas em uma escala de escolha com certeza a eu fico com a ortofon
