it's insane that top gun did not get a cinematography nomination. The fact that it got visual effects nomination and not cinematography tells me that by and large academy voters were not aware of how this movie was made. I'm starting to realize that the academy is basically a set of low-information voters with insider bias and highly susceptible to targeted marketing
I thought that certain awards for cinematography, editing and other technical awards had their nominations come directly from the particular guilds? If that is still the case then the guild had a major fail this year, and if that’s no longer the case then the academy nomination process needs to be changed.
Only cinematographers voted in the category and there's no chance that they didn't know how Top Gun was made. I think they simply just assumed that most people will vote for it, so a lot of them went with their 2nd or 3rd picks that they wanted see nominated.
I originally was going to reply maybe they voted by reputation, but Miranda, the DP on TGM was a prior Oscar winner. I'm guessing the voters credited the technical camera aspects versus the artistic composition choices in how they filmed the movie. I do agree with Dan and the community though - the look of the film gave it a very unique juxtaposition of modern and nostalgia, human warmth and mechanical coolness, plus that movie magic combo of awe and wonder.
The nominations are decided by a guild of people that are actually part of that profession. So a bunch of cinematographers basically decided it wasnt worthy of the nomination.
Decision to leave was a victim of its distributor. If neon or a24 had picked it up they would’ve gotten something. With being Mubi’s first notable release it was without a distributor with a proven record of campaigning.
True, But honestly I thought Korea would have chosen Broker or even Emergency Declaration as their Oscar entry as they both won countless awards at Cannes and the Venice Film Festival among others which typically gives an indication of what movies have a better chance at getting a Oscar nomination when it comes to the international films.
@@gavinhenderson7250It is in North America (I know they’ve handled other notable films in other markets, but this is the first time they’ve handled something of this scale in North America).
@@G10-n7f "Emergency Declaration" didn't win any festival awards, and its major festival play was at Cannes 2021 out of competition a year before it was released theatrically. Compared to some other notable Korean movies in 2022, "Emergency Declaration" didn't fare that well as expected. Even if "Broker" was submitted, I doubt it would have rose up to a high level. Certainly didn't get as many award nominations as "Decision to Leave" in general. Other critics groups and major award ceremonies (including ones that don't limit one film per country) could have considered "Broker," but that has been rare. There have been like 5 critics/journalists groups in the US that have done so, according to iMDb.
@@thebortthe All quiet is among the leaders in nomination. Along with triangle of sadness that wasn't even put in for international film, but still got picture screenplay and director. They are very much appreciative of foreign films now but decision to leave was an unfortunate sub, though them nominating EO over it was a cool pick tho
@@JasmineLi_TheHappySloths I agree. I also didn’t believe the detective falling for her. The entire setup of him watching her, felt like something from an 80’s or 90’s movie, in which a detective falls for a suspect. I enjoyed it, but I saw the plot beats coming. I knew the old woman was how she did it, and I saw the ending coming, though I thought she was going to just swim out and disappear. I think there were things lost in the translation, as I’ve heard others comment on things that were funny, which just didn’t hit for me. The plot with her second husband was also so convoluted, and relied on so much she couldn’t control to happen, that it just felt out of place.
Seeing An Cailín Ciúin (A quiet girl )an Irish Language film being nominated is amazing, the first time an Irish language film has been nominated. In all a really good day for the Irish film industry.
RRR not receiving anything besides "Song" was a surprise - but yeah, the Top Gun / cinematography snub was the biggest disappointment for me. Three of my top four of the year were nominated for Best Picture, which is the first time that's happened in the 13 years I've been reviewing films - so that's something!
Re the woman king's lack of noms is down to the fact that Viola Davis tore into the studio execs who stood in her way for years while struggled to get the movie made. and she came across as aggressive in her defense of the lack of mixed race female actors saying "I didnt make the movie for them". and strongly implying that they could shove their opinions, historian were not kind to her movie.
Being from Ireland im so happy for all the nominations we got from Banshees to Quiet Girl to all the actors and a live short too..im surprised Jesse Buckley for Women Talking was not nominated since she was nominated for so many other awards..
@@moviemaniac14 where I live, most of these movies don’t come out in theaters. And what if you live where i do in rural Missouri and don’t have money for streaming? Then you’re just shit outta luck.
@@weirdosofsociety2237 I legit wonder if that’s the case too. 🤷♂️ Dan was right though, it’s a crapshoot sometimes trying to figure out who’s gonna get noms and who isn’t.
After watching your predictions video, the fact that the actress from To Leslie actually achieved a nomination on pure word of mouth fills me with joy. Can't wait to watch the movie when I can.
I strangely saw some backlash to her nomination in a different comment section: can anyone elaborate as to why they felt it was unearned? I think something about a late-stage campaign to be nominated wasn't the same as a traditional campaign, but it's still within the rules, yeah?
What a year for the Irish 🇮🇪🇮🇪. Having started a career in Irish language tv and film just over a year ago, I have never felt more hopeful for the future!
Oh my. This video. I love your channel for so many reasons but it keeps invigorating my love for cinema in a way no other channel can. I feel that even if you speak on something that’s not on my radar or not to my taste, your enthusiasm at least ensures it won’t be a waste of my time. I thank you. Stay safe as well
I definitely got mixed feelings on Riseborough’s nomination. One one hand, it’s great to see a grassroots support on a performance that can go all the way without an expensive campaign but on the other hand, it doesn’t sit well with me that an actor with friends in very high places can tip the scale in their favor to where they don’t have to put in the work in campaigning and promoting their movie. I honestly don’t know how I should feel about the situation to be honest.
And if they can throw their weight behind her, it makes it even more disturbing that marginalized actors are repeatedly overlooked but everyone acts like there’s nothing to be done. This proves that if these performative activists actually cared, they could change things.
Seriously. I mean, what the f@#$? It is a great visual and auditory ride but it is a carbon copy of the previous movie with the SW trench run. It is tropes and popcorn-movie predictability. The screenplay is by far the weakest aspect of the movie. ChatGPT could have written it.
Decision to Leave getting snubbed is wild since some people were talking about Park Chan Wook possibly picking up a Director nom. But other than that, this is a really solid year, wish Cameron had been recognized for his direction on Avatar over Spielberg. And this is just me, but it's just plain funny watching people rage over the Batman not getting nominated for cinematography. Also, props on your calls about Paul Mescal and Andrea Riseborough, you were the only one I knew that called those two.
I love that 5 years later, we're all still collectively upset about Toni Collette didn't get nominated for best actress. I'll take that grudge with me to my graaaaave XD
Top Gun missing Cinematography was the biggest surprise. With best Actress - while it had surprises - None of the front runners (Blanchett and Yeoh) missed out. But I was certain Claudio Miranda was a lock to win also, making it that much more of a shock.
The cinematographers lineup definitely looked more "artsy", so the voters probably thought top gun "just put cameras into a plane" which sucks. Even without the amazing aerial sequences, the rest of the movie was shot pretty great.
To me, most of the impressive part about TGM's cinematography was the stunt work, especially including aircraft. I can see why voters didn't vote for it. I was more surprised by The Batman's snub. Greg Fraser did phenomenal work as he did in Dune. But, I think just because he won it last year, voters may have opted to not vote for him this year, and also for a CBM movie, but it definitely deserved.
@@marcochen9117 That’s completely true. It’s snubs like this on me that makes me ask if the voting bloc actually did their homework studying how these movies achieved their shots. Or they just went with the “artsy” options like you said.
Thank you for mentioning Decision to Leave being completely snubbed. I agree it's a shame that because it wasn't nominated, less people will ultimately discover it at this time. One hell of a film.
I would have loved to see the Menu with a best original screenplay nod. It was such a fun and surprising movie. I do feel like that category is Everything, Everywhere, All at Once's award to lose though.
I think the Preferential Ballot is EEAO enemy. In a straight vote down the line it would win but I worry thr movie may be too out there for the boomers (aka over 60) crowd at the Academy and they go with Banshees/Fabelmans
The issue is that it has some great aspects that didn't come together for a whole package (for many of us) and the great aspects aren't greater than the other movies for the very few slots available.
I'm pissed that Till didn't even get a Best Actress nomination! Her performance was incredible! I'm also shocked that Decision to Leave wasn't nominated and that Top Gun: Maverick wasn't nominated for cinematography.
I definitely understand that, but Andrea is a phenomenal actress (I've been a fan of her work for decades but it has largely been smaller films), and this is one of the best performances of the year (and definitely not a really expensive shady Harvey Weinstein campaign situation). I do feel she deserves the nomination based on her performance and artistry despite the campaign piece. Michelle Williams should be in best supporting and Ana de Armas, while much better than Blonde, should not be in there at all. Danielle was absolutely snubbed for Till and one of those two spots should have gone to her. That was the snub that bothered me the most.
@@goldengrill769 I've watched plethora of movies dating back to 50s, and being grimdark has never been a problem for a movie to get nomination in major category. It being a comicbook movie worked against it. Remove all the comicbook elements from it, release it during award season, and I think it racks up more noms.
LOL Delusional. The Batman's cinematography was spotty at best. Several scenes underlit badly. Also, why would the score be nominated when the only things about the music that stuck out was Ave Maria and Something in the Way? The Batman got the nominations it deserved and did not deserve any more. If there was a snub for cinematography it was Top Gun. Not Batman.
@@luckyspurs No, in my opinion. It was a 4 out of 10 to me. But for a lot of people it was one of the best, so that´s it haha. I can understand why it wasn´t nominated since i disliked the movie, but for those who loved it, they might be pissed right now.
@@luckyspurs it’s a pretty good film, it’s not the kind of film that usually gets nominated for these award shows, but it’s become very popular in the West so much so that it opened people up to a new kind of cinema, Indian cinema. I’d describe RRR to someone from the west, as a marvel film with heart. It’s rooted in Indian culture, history and mythology but it appeals to an audience beyond Indians due to the directors sheer creativity and ability to mount incredible action set pieces, the music and much more. I was more so hoping RRR gets a nomination, so that the world starts to explore Indian cinema more and realise the incredibly diverse and rooted films that are made every year. And not just dismiss Indian films as “song and dance”
I thought the same, too. The exclusion of TGM in the Best Cinematography was the most shocking and most baffling! It was the odds-on favorite to WIN, not just to get nominated.
I don't think I'll get over "nope" not getting nominated for anything. One of my favorite films period! I know it didn't get that much attention/praise but still what a masterpiece to overlook
I'm so happy about Everything Everywhere All At Once getting so many nominations. But I very much understand your frustration about Maverick getting nothing for cinematography. That is just wrong.
The Oscars are so strange. Sometimes you think they actually did their homework like Bryan Tyree Henry for Casual, which felt like something no one watched (he's great!). But then they don't get one nomination for Decision to Leave, which I would say is the census best international feature or Dolly De Leon as you mentioned being the best part of Triangle of Sadness, which was successful otherwise. I don't know if it's a consequence of opening up the voting to more people or not, but it's hard to quantify exactly why things are.
thank you for mentioning Decision to Leave. it hurts not seeing it get nominated for anything. not because igaf about what the academy thinks but because now it will get less attention and views. it deserves to be seen.
What a ride this was. Also, I don't know why but I pictured you going full Academy rant on your therapist! 😅 But seriously, therapy is such a great investment. Literally saved my life on multiple occasions. Appreciate you & what you do!
Yep! Some of us are still talking about the 1999 Best Picture thing. Shakespeare in Love beating out Saving Private Ryan and The Thin Red Line. Almost 25 years later, and I have NEVER heard a single person say, ''So, I was rewatching Shakespeare in Love the other night...'' 1999, the year I officially stopped watching the Academy Awards ...
Honestly surprised that Empire of Light was thrown a bone with Cinematography. Granted, it was exceptional cinematography. Would also be nice for Roger Deakins to improve the old Nom to Win ratio
Was hoping that Nope and The Menu would get at least one nom, but by far the most ridiculous omissions are Decision to Leave for best foreign film and TG Maverick for cinematography. Also think The Batman deserved a nom for best cinematography as well.
Defiantly dissapointed that rrr did not have such a large presence so few movies internationally break out and become a huge success but maybe that was because it got a lot of its success from streaming over actual cinema showings internationally. But i 100% agree if they do not have a version of that song set up as a rountine they have lost there minds it was one of the most entertaining musical numbers i have seen in so long.
(Forgive me if you've already done this) But would love to see a video breakdown from you on The Academy: how the members are selected, what the voting process is like, why YOU'RE not a member of it! The Oscar's is pretty much the only award show that still holds my interest so would love to know more about it from your perspective! As always loved the video!
I can tell you why I'm not a member: I've yet to do anything I'd consider remotely worthy of being invited. Leonard Maltin just got in LAST YEAR!! But I like the idea of peeking behind the curtain, I'll put it on the list.
Pretty sure you have to be nominated by at least two other members of the Academy to join, unless you're nominated for an award, then you get in automatically.
Critics are rarely Academy members. There are different organizations that include critics like Critics' Choice. Academy members are generally accomplished members of one of the guilds of the industry like actors, directors, producers, editors, etc. The problem with these professional bodies is that many members are too busy to watch all the projects from potential nominees and they rely on what friends tell them were good projects. Critics tend to watch more projects because that's literally their job
You won't be able to convince me the academy didn't watch your video and scramble to change the nominations before Oscar announcements-every name listed I just kept shaking my head "Dan you son of a gun, you called it" (most of the names 🙄)
I don’t understand what top gun Maverick is doing in adapted screenplay when the whale had one of the best screenplays of the year. I also don’t understand how top gun and the Batman weren’t in cinematography. I haven’t seen decision to leave but from everything I’ve heard I am shocked there were no nominations.
Felix Kämmerer or Tang Weis ommission shows that while the Academy opens for non-english films more and more, its very hard for a non-english-actor or actress to be nominated (especially on leading).
In terms of who did manage to get noms, there still have been quite some of them over recent years, like Cotillard 2015, Huppert 2017, Aparicio 2019, Banderas 2020 and Cruz 2022, who were all nominated for lead. Interestingly enough, more leads than supporting as of late, with the only recent Supporting from international films is de Tavira 2019. The closest example of a winner being Supporting Actress winner Youn 2021 in a Korean-language role from a US film.
Loved that. Not loving that there seems to be momentum for other people in their categories so they could conceivably walk away with few to no awards here (they have a mountain of them already though). Though they should have also gotten a nomination for special effects and not just (mostly) the monster budget CGI fests. I chalk a lot of it up to recency bias. Oscars seem to be made up almost exclusively of movies released in the last two months.
I would’ve loved to see Margot Robbie nominated in either Best Leading Actress or Best Supporting Actress for Babylon. I know that movie was divisive, but she was a freaking powerhouse!
The more I think about it, the more I realise the Maverick screenplay may be worthy of an Oscar nom. How hard would it have been to merge the nostalgic / call back references with the modern whilst keeping it so powerful and punchy - funny when levity was needed and provide conflict when required? It reminds me of the Rocky screenplay- not a single unnecessary word or phrase - everything had a purpose. I like you Dan, nitially thought that nom was folly, but the more I think about it, the more I feel the Maverick screenplay may be referenced in film making circles for decades to come.
I don't think people should be outraged over top guns adapted screenplay nom. I think that maverick was able to improve so much on the first one, that it does garner recognition for elevating an extremely bare bones story into an emotional story. Missing cinematography definitely sucks too
Sad to see the snub I expected came to happen: Inu-Oh did not get any nomination for best animated feature. That particularly bugged me, that was easily one of the best animated features of last year. It's a friggin Opera set in old Japan, how could that possibly have been overlooked? Pesky limited release windows....
Been used to Japanese animated movies being ignored at the Oscars all the time, despite Japan having most interesting and best looking animated pieces out there...while mediocre American animated movies get nominated. It's American awards afterall.
To me, most of the impressive part about TGM's cinematography was the stunt work, especially including aircraft. I can see why voters didn't vote for it . I was more surprised by The Batman's cinematography snub. Greg Fraser did phenomenal work as he did in Dune. But, I think just because he won it last year, voters may have opted to not vote for him this year, and also for a CBM movie, but it definitely deserved.
The one I was slightly confused about was Marcel the Shell for best animated feature. I'm glad it got a nomination for something but it wasn't all animation. If that got nominated then The Lego Movie had no reason to be snubbed in 2015.
I’m not saying that Andrea Riseborough’s performance was bad at all, but it rubs me the wrong way that someone with powerful friends and connections was able to network her way to an Oscar nomination whilst two women of color, one who is an absolute powerhouse and one of the best actresses of this generation and another who portrayed the mother of a victim of one of the most heinous sins of this country, get left out.
I really am surprised by the lack of love for the score of Bones and All. The Academy Awards aren’t the only ones to snub it. I thought it was honestly the most moving score and the most memorable. Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross have been nominated many times and have won twice. I was just surprised how little love this score got. I guess the fact that the movie didn’t do well didn’t help. I loved the movie as well. I was also surprised The Menu got zero nominations. I think it should have got a screenplay nomination at least.
Dude wtf?? No Maverick for Cinematography? That's like the BIGGEST reason why I loved that movie... That was why I recommended that movie everyone I talked too.... I'm just flabbergasted!!
There's definitely more support for Fraser than the movie, which could possibly end up hurting his chances of winning. But you never know. And this is coming from someone rooting for Austin Butler
I had a fun time watching these nominations. My local theater held an event where they served breakfast and watched the announcements. It was a great time cheering on my favorites with 30 other movie lovers. I am taking partial credit for mescal's nom because a friend and I were interviewed for our local morning show and I said I was trying to manifest a nomination for him. Needless to say my reaction to his name being read was probably the most entertaining part of a lot of people's mornings.
Thanks Dan! Definitely going to be checking out Decision to Leave as a fan of Park Chan-wook. Had no idea that this movie came out. Now it's firmly on the radar.
I thought Triangle of Sadness was just fine and it and it didn't seem super likely so i was surprised by it making then, especially over things like Decision to Leave. Top Gun missing out on cinematography is wild , i wasn't even as in love with it as others but it's still great in those tech fields including that one.
I think they went for both - the movie was a spectacle in addition to being a good story. The flying sequences in IMAX 100% brought people in, and back, to theaters. I'd say a healthy amount of people DID go to Top Gun: Maverick for the cinematography.
Really glad to see A House Made of Splinters on there. I actually wasn’t sure when watching it if it was a documentary or a drama, it was so well made!
