@yamaha throw some parts at these boys like a ecu, loom, etc. They are doing more to get me excited about yamaha then anything I've seen including wsbk, motoamerica, motogp. Well done guys.
It's because the fucking algorithm just doesn't serve up 44t to people. They should have millions of subs at this point and a massive budget, but as it is it's a really small team.
@@bosco_bosco You think they are a small channel without money? They have 303K subs. MCN has 334K subs. Official WorldSBK channel has 639K! Yeah... They keep it small, but compared to other channels, I'd say they have more subs per team member, than any other channel. And keeping it small is as you say smart. Less people to pay, less bureaucracy, less office space to pay, etc.
You're 100% right, they deserve million of subs and views. The positive side is that the 300k they do have are ACTUAL fans of these guys not just people who sub and don't check in.
A million subs will be tough for this channel, They have a solid platform to go far but they would have to target a wider audience, The best viewed videos are Superbike battles, People want to see some real action like old style Top gear which they do capture a big in the budget bike battle vids but they need better production
Love this series guys the team at crescent Yamaha seem like top professionals. Looking forward to seeing Al’ Statham on track on the r1! Happy new year from New Zealand 🇳🇿👍🏻
But it put out an acclaimed 197 prior to mods and map, we saw a 201rwhp on screen, so it makes sense that the final figure at the wheel after a full map would reach 206 no matter how accurate the dyno is. 🤷♂️
Why do people that do track days say this? Trying hard enough for what exactly?? It's all about having a fun day out and getting the bike home in one piece. There are no prizes for returning to the pits with a crashed bike lmao. Unless you are competing for money then you should just ride to your limits. I see guys getting hard ons with track times and for what lol
@@donp9898 no, you're either pushing the envelope or you're not, on the edge or taking up too much space. Riding within your perceived comfort zone is wobbling, you know the only way to find where the limit actually is? It's to exceed it and then dial it back, otherwise you're only guessing where the limit is.
Hey guys, great video again, just thought I would mention about options with regards to the Kit Loom, here in NZ on our superstock race bikes, we run the YEC Loom, with the Standard ECU (use Woolich software). I find the YEC software for the kit ECU pretty limiting. There is a bit of "sorting out" to allow the ECU to run correctly with the YEC loom, but that is more to do with having the dash operate correctly with no MIL lights or any errors, so that you can still make changes to TC etc etc on the fly. So maybe look at doing this option, which would save a bit of coin, but help eliminate unwanted wiring from the standard loom.
206 is impressive only if we know what other bikes do on that same dyno. 206 is great if the S1000RR would pull 205-210 but no so much if the BMW would show 215
Great blokes, great bike, great video! You are legends! And I totally agree...the CP4 is the best sounding engine. Keep smoking V4s! Much appreciated! 🤙🏼😉
Yay more disingenuous dyno results Interesting choice to double down when you probably could have just left the subject alone. Guess Integrity ultimately just gets in the way of true progress...
How is it possible to make more rear wheel HP than crank HP than what the bike specs call for? With no actual engine modifications? COUGH(bull shit)COUGH
Crescent are very good at what they do, ive had a few bikes done there, but their dyno numbers have always been a work of fiction purely for pub bragging rights.
Bo\\ocks!! Crescent is no doubt, super professional and the guys won WSBK with Toprak, i mean - you can't question them - they can build an 250+ hp at the wheel engine. BUT, this video is MARKETING! We have the same Dynojet 250i model in our workshop and more than 20 R1 2015+ engines run and tuned - both mechanically and ECU wise - during these past years and NEVER ever this configuration to be able to output anyway near 200 at the rear wheel. So, any Yamaha R1 2015+ Stock engine (stock compression, stock camshafts, stock gears for the camshafts, stock pistons, stock rods, etc) + air filter + stock headers + deCat + Best End Can = cannot do more than 186 and the most optimistic 188 hp at the rear wheel no matter what correction factor is used, no matter how cold the air is, no matter how much oxygen molecules are in the 'inhaled' air in the airbox, no matter how much forced inducted air you go in the ram air - especially with the stock ram air which is SHIT and fucks up the Venturi Effect in the intake and the air pressure happens a lot before than the airbox and not in the airbox where it should. - complicated discussion but i brought it up just to show you i know what i am speaking in here. We had an World Endurance Yamaha R1 on our dyno few days ago - guys, EWC bike, FIA homologated engine and all - and was so far away from that 200 HP ar the rear wheel figure. So, 44 teeth guys are super great lads- i am their fan since ever and still am, guys doing a super good work, but they also need to pay bills, so, marketing is one way to go. K.U.D.O.S and no hard feelings 🤜🤛
I love 44 teeth but I agree with you.. that number is the highest I've ever seen by quite alot too. I don't blame 44teeth I think it's crescent fudging the numbers
@@youtubed9695 that dyno is close to impossible to make it lie, that's why is the world's benchmark in Dynos, together with BaPro. But yes, i honestly that graph for sure is not from that stock engine with a muffler. I dont blame either parts, is marketing. But we had here our hands deep into many R1 and we are racing these since 2017. I would have loved my R1 to be able to spin 200hp when i am battling the BMWs, but, reality kicks in really fast at the race track :)))
Even though I agree with you re the 'optimistic' dyno the blab about ram air is bs as you can't replicate it properly on a dyno. Especially on that one where they only have a fan at the front of the bike. Also, there are other intakes you can buy for the R1 to sort that out. Cost a lot more than its worth IMO tho
Sorry but this is some BS. These bikes simply don't make that kind of power. With a stock exhaust, they make about 180 untuned and 190 TOPS after a tune. With a full exhaust they can scrape out 200 if the stars align. The fact it was done at a Yamaha dealership is very suspicious OR the dyno needs calibrating. Also noone uses DIN correction factor. Take it to an independent tuner. Unless it has a full exhaust AND it's on race fuel?
i'm sorry to say this but there is no way that R1 makes 206rwhp unless you're using race gas. To get the R1 to over 200hp you need cams,stacks,race fuel,ecu flash. IMHO there is something wrong with their dyno calibration or setup.
they've got ram air too by the looks of the guys jumper but on a second thought that makes the scenario more realistic. so who knows, id like to see it on the JHS dyno, just for science if anything lol
I've seen a hell lot of dyno video's but never once came across a yamaha R1 or even an R1m that makes more than 190@the wheel,Chris Moore I watch alot of his videos he is a hell of a tuner,well known drag racer, couldn't get his yamaha R1m to 200,this dyno is way off, I don't believe it's anywhere near 180-182 @max,with a 3/4 system and a bmc that is impossible to believe!!
Why is everyone so touchy about 206bhp? 😂😂 Pretty sure Crescent run a high pressure wind turbine in their Dyno, which mimics real world air speed / pressures that aid in acheiving higher figures. Not just cooling fans like most tuners. Plus its 44Teeth, their bike would of been supplied by Yamaha UK solely for the purpose of promoting the product at its best given their platform. The bike could be bluprinted or fitted with a shed load of internal performance parts that they may never even know about. You haters need to relax 🤣
that is a happy dyno boys, sorry to be sceptical but 20hp gain over the 2019 r1 without changing the camshafts or headwork is BS. I have some mwr velocity stacks that you can buy if you think it will help. probably gives a slight increase in the top end (3hp) with a slight dip between 10-11k (dip of about 8hp) that needs to be tuned out, but i guess that they will sit in a box in my garage until the day i die. Velocity stacks on the r1 are overrated and not worth the high prices that manufacturers are asking.
Top Shelf right there with the teeth tingling quality , Even the Exhaust gas Cone is having a Party on the shifts :) . man that opening B roll is Quality bike stuff no fan fair just Quality Matters , sick bike ! Great stuff Gents
It's amazing how much more adjustable & workable bikes are now with RBW throttles, full ECU programming etc. I had a 2016 R1M and spent about a year messing with mapping - it's all well & good sorting fuelling and trying to make max power but the ride ability of the R1 is always it's problem, I found working with the ignition timing mapping made the most difference from standard - these bikes can be so smooth they are awesome
So what's with all this "miles per hour" jazz? I was under the impression the USA was the only hold out of the primitive imperial system? Are the road signs in the UK not in KMs??
Great video as usual. Love the r1 even though I sold mine. That 206bhp sounds a bit optomistic to me. Id like to see it back to back with another make of bike for real world comparrison. The best sounding bike for sure
@@desertfresh3740 whats wrong with the sound, ive never actually met a person who doesnt like the sound of a crossplane, i even prefer the sound over my rsv4 1100 factory, although its a close second 😄
I'm guessing the correction factor on that dyno is a bit optimistic. Not drastically but somewhat. Most R1 are mid to upper 190's with all the usual tuning goodies. Unless of course you run MR12 or equivalent fuel.
When the motorcycle more than 190hp is enough for any mortal in the world . More than 190hp only usable with a team of engineers and professionally trainers riders to using it to the optimum performance otherwise just spare unusable power .
Nice, if running stock filter then proformance there's the 1% extra from the filter. That's about the norm for cars/bikes. He's correct about fish having scales but the shit for weighing with,lol.
A GYTR R-1 crash at Mugello! How did I miss that episode? I'm looking at past videos and don't see it?? Help a brutha out here fellas. Where is the video of that track day?
I live in the states and never seen an R1 come close to this hp, even with the most competent ecu "flashing" and a full decat/exhaust system. Just goes to show you that there are drastic differences in dyno's.
Making some awesome power there, I've taken the beast (cbr929) to cresent yamaha for a power run 144rwhp iam running a dynojet autotune, but definitely will be getting these guys to do a tune on it in the very near future. Keep up the great content, guys.
206 wheel with bolt ons? Naa thats race fuel territory. I seen 190 odd with stacks and worldsbk headers so how u find that without kit ecu or cams is beyond me.
Actually i did also used original harness and ecu from yart austria. I know guys there and i have diagrams to connect it properly so you can have all lights, and standard cables ans can even be run on streets. The only downside under 3k is no map present.
