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Our Thoughts on the 2024 Election (In Less than 30 Minutes) 

Conversations with John & Lisa Bevere
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@crystaljanzen6800
@crystaljanzen6800 2 дня назад
Wow this really convicted me. As a Canadian I have been so disheartened by the Prime Minister we have had and the damage he has caused to our country. He is not an easy man to like let alone pray for. He has caused so many so much pain and suffering. Learning to pray for him is a tough pill to swallow for me. But I do understand the importance as a Christian to do so. Thank you for this.
@joflynn242
@joflynn242 2 дня назад
Thank you for the correction. I've repented for not praying FOR our leaders. This opened my eyes.
@stasiadarling8159
@stasiadarling8159 День назад
John and Lisa, While I agree with your admonition to honor the leaders and respect all, I have a few observations and questions to stimulate deeper biblical thinking. I believe that the issue of character is much more important than it is presented in any go-vote message these days. When we dismiss unrepentant sexual sin, a torrent of slanderous, hateful, divisive rhetoric, lies, and dictatorial aspirations of our nation’s leader, we lose our high moral ground to criticize the moral decline of this nation. How can we judge sexual immorality of the liberal left if we excuse our leader’s adulterous behavior? Don’t we compromise the integrity of the gospel and our witness by disregarding the moral character of our representative? Pagan world is watching us and making their judgment about our faith based on our choices. Secondly, I believe that spreading hateful slanderous rhetoric and promoting animosity is as egregious as murder in God’s eyes. Is it merely a rhetorical device when Jesus says that “anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment” and anyone who says to his brother, “Raca”, is answerable to the Sanhedrin”? Is apostle John exaggerating when he says that “anyone who hates his brother is a murderer”? I find it extremely harmful that a candidate who claims to represent Christian values, uses slanderous, hateful rhetoric like no other politician. In fact, he brought our standards & expectations down so low that most of his followers think that his rhetoric is the norm in politics. MAGA has been discipling the church for so long that we don’t even mind that they use God’s name to prop up Trump’s political campaign. Thirdly. For me the holiness of God’s name is weightier than any political issue. It’s a tier one issue, if you will. Is the third commandment less important than the sixth? Am I idealistic? Yes. But so is Jesus. He did not side with the Jewish “moral” elite in the culture war of his days. He chose the way of preaching the gospel, humble service and sacrifice over the way of political power. And lastly, do you really believe in God’s sovereignty? I do and I absolutely trust that God can put the right kind of evil in the government to fulfill His purposes for this country and for the world. He is absolutely able to do it without me compromising the holiness of His name, my integrity and my witness.
@saramartinez103
@saramartinez103 День назад
Your perspective is rooted in the fashionable hate of Trump. We are not electing him to be our pastor, nor a leader in our church. We are voting for him because of his policies being closer to our principles and Christian values. You are using the verses that are supposed to be directed to our brothers and sisters in Christ. The rulers, kings and Presidents are a different subject and John and Lisa addressed that on the video. I am assuming you won't vote because for you the moral character of the person is more important.Maybe you will vote for the other candidate God bless you
@Geenster0128
@Geenster0128 День назад
100% the sad truth is that there just isn’t any godly candidate this time around. Both candidates struggle with basic moral truths. Sitting this election out & letting America reap the fruit of her wickedness is probably what’s best for us Christians to do. Should we continue to fight for our values? Yes. But the Republican candidate is simply not worthy of Christian votes. He can be bought. He has turned his back on the unborn. We have a chance four years from now. But we have to let this man go.
@stasiadarling8159
@stasiadarling8159 17 часов назад
@@saramartinez103 On the contrary, I feel like a lone voice in the dessert crying out against my fellow believers defending Trump as the champion for Christian values. I have not drawn my conclusions about his moral character from the media. I listen to his own words and read his “truths” and tweets. “For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks”. Listen to his words about immigrants, his opponents, his former staff members/advisors who have disagreed with him on his election claims, about Putin, Xi Jinping, & other dictators, about how a celebrity can treat women like objects and get away with it, read his Christmas and Easter posts, think about how he has changed his platform from decidedly pro-life to pro-reproductive rights, how he does not shy away from messianic comparisons. Think about how his rhetoric has influenced the church and what it has done to our gospel witness. For the first time in the history of the conservative movement, its leaders have come up with the “policy over personality“ propaganda point to distract us from one of the most important principles in electing a leader. You should think and pray about it and if you still believe he is a lesser evil and worth compromising your integrity for, definitely go and vote out of that conviction. But please don’t make it out to be a fight between good and evil, don’t coerce other believers to vote for policies if they have other convictions, and be prepared to repent and oppose Trump if he turns on us after he gets elected.
@saramartinez103
@saramartinez103 16 часов назад
@@stasiadarling8159 can you please give us an analysis on Kamala, in the same way you do Trump's and tell us what Christians should do then. Because if we follow your points we must abstain from voting and let the wicked triumph
@stasiadarling8159
@stasiadarling8159 15 часов назад
@@saramartinez103 Please, know that I am not advocating for the democratic ticket. This audience rightly understands that their abortion and LGBTQ position are clearly unbiblical and harmful. Bringing this up is preaching to the choir. What I am pushing against is the assumption that this is a fight between good and evil. If you really think through the points I brought up in my comments, you will see past partisan blind spots. Praying for humility for us all.
@kimparker3910
@kimparker3910 День назад
Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV) 16) There are six things the Lord hates seven that are detestable to him: 17) haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 ) a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19) a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
@lgnlynays7977
@lgnlynays7977 День назад
Policies don’t mean a thing to me. They can change it the minute they are in the White House, or get constantly blocked for whatever reason. Character in leadership means more to me than policies. Everyone can talk a good game, but hardly anyone have the skills.
@teacherspetism
@teacherspetism 10 часов назад
Agree…and it’s sad that people are labeling it as “emotion”
@NeurodiversitySupportServices
@NeurodiversitySupportServices 3 часа назад
Love this and am so blessed by this conversation! Thank you!!!
@LessonsfromanRN
@LessonsfromanRN День назад
We can find good and fault on both sides scripturally … I have peace with how I have already cast my ballot…praying for all leaders 🙏🏾
@veronicafields4494
@veronicafields4494 3 часа назад
This is a great convo. Eye opener. Great advice. Thank you both! 🙏🏼💕🔥✝️
@diadnyarko1312
@diadnyarko1312 2 дня назад
I am a follower of Jesus Christ and it saddens me that every time I hear pastors talk about the election and say “vote the Bible” they then proceed to only speak about abortion and lgbtq+. There are so many other issues facing us and the liberties of certain Americans at stake that, unfortunately do not look like you all. And yet somehow, these two issues are your whole focus (oh I dare not forget to mention all the dangerous illegal aliens coming in to harm us). I don’t hear any pastor who constantly harp on these two main issues bringing up gun safety when countless children have been taken due to this epidemic, and not by the hands of “illegal aliens”. As followers of Jesus Christ we, of course, follow God’s leading in all we do. And God also gives us common sense. It’s clear who you’re saying not to vote for and who to vote for. Regardless of who makes it in office I can agree with you on one thing, as followers of Jesus we must pray! Pray for our nation, our leaders, those who fight for our country, our children’s safety, our environment, our families… we must pray. And we must not allow the spirit of division to infiltrate our hearts. God bless.
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 дня назад
Exactly. It’s wildly obtuse, but I expect nothing less considering Americans are so politically and biblically illiterate.
@Demetra321
@Demetra321 2 дня назад
Good post.... "voting the bible" is not possible. Neither party is Christ-centered and I don't need them to be. We all have things we are concerned about, so pray and vote accordingly.
@CaptMoo
@CaptMoo 2 дня назад
PREEEAAAAACH PREACH PREACH!!!!! UUhh Goodness!!! SAY IT LOUD FOR THE CHRISTIANS IN THE BACK! Its like abortion and lgbtq+ are the "CAPITAL SINS OF THE UNIVERSE"... anything else, its "aaaah thats not that bad, just pray for him. We are all not perfect" WHAT???
@debbiebramwell
@debbiebramwell 2 дня назад
Amen! How a Christian can support Trump is crazy to me! There are lots of Republicans voting for Kamala. Maga party is not the normal Republican party. Trump is anything but decent. I pray for his salvation and his family. They are all walking with the enemy!
@Debs-pk5ye
@Debs-pk5ye 2 дня назад
I am Canadian, living in Niagara Falls and go to an American University, so I feel the heaviness that this vote brings. I hate to admit that "what could happen" is worrying me way more than it should. But I completely agree that abortion and LGBTQ+ are not the only issues that should sway a Christian's vote. I just don't understand how Christians are expected (by so many other Christians) to vote for a leader who is a criminal, womanizer and someone who shows blatant disrespect to most other humans. I am so glad that I don't have to vote. I am praying for you, America! xo
@HolyandPerfect
@HolyandPerfect 2 дня назад
The way God appoints the next leader is by placing on each individual's heart who to vote for. Some believers are basing their decision on being "pro-life" and anti-lgbtq and other believers are basing their decision on helping the poor & less fortunate and anti-racism, anti-theft, anti-murder, anti-greed, etc. so then the bottom line is that both parties have dual satanic/biblical platforms. God's instruction to me is to vote how He tells me to; not based on what any other believer is saying. For some, God is directing them to vote Harris and for others, He's directing them to vote Trump.
@Klkc7
@Klkc7 2 дня назад
Hey John and Lisa, I honor you both and I’ve always believed that your teachings are anointed. I know that sometimes , there’s a gray area on the scripture you quoted about God putting people in place of authority and approving them, not necessarily appointing them. I totally agree with what Lisa said.I know that God is never surprised of any leader that’s being placed in power. We also know that God will not interfere with the choices of men just like when Israel needed a king , they ended up with a Saul. Although we know that Saul did not start out to be evil, but he eventually did . We can all agree that it is also the People’s choice of who they vote for. unfortunately not too many seek the Holy Spirit and ask who to vote for. He knows all things and he is the best person to ask who the rightful person is. He is the spirit of truth and and when he gives us the truth, it will set us free. That’s what happened to me in 2016. I had a specific person in mind to vote for but on my way to the voting polls, The Holy Spirit specifically told me that the person I had in mind was not God’s choice and he told me who I needed to vote for so I did and he won .
@dionneR
@dionneR День назад
As a believer who is also a leader I want to offer another perspective. We have 2 choices in this election. Typically policies matter as the primary criteria for voting however this election has forced a different prioritization based on the 2 candidates in this race. Character and leadership skills to lead are typically not the issue because you normally have 2 candidates who possess both and the primary difference is policy. It is clear you are Trump supporters based on your comments and that is your right. I don’t have any issue with that. The challenge I have with evangelicals is that they completely dismiss and ignore character and leadership, which is a critical requirement to be President, when it comes to Donald Trump. We have a former President who literally speaks hate out of his mouth and on his social platforms, spent 4 years as President on Twitter complaining about anything and everything, calls immigrants aliens, incited a mob to riot and attack the US Capitol, this week spoke of a golfers private parts as a badge of honor, proudly stated he grabs women by the “p***, struggled to lead us through the Covid crisis, his wife has not been with him on the campaign trail this year and the list goes on. These are not 2nd hand accounts, all you have to do is listen to him speak and follow him on social media. But yet many evangelicals say, vote your values and choose someone who is most closely aligned with the Bible but “disregard”what the Bible says about Godly character??
@Geenster0128
@Geenster0128 День назад
Agreed. You said rightly.
@dopeysister
@dopeysister 10 часов назад
Finally! Yes! All this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@Gabriellamariaaa
@Gabriellamariaaa 2 дня назад
hello, i’m sorry , this is going to be long. please pray for me. i feel under attack and im scared. i feel far from God. and i’m struggling with believing the lies of the enemy, about myself, about God and His word. i sometimes open up the word and have so much shame and fear of God and punishment that i end up hearing His word as if everything was aimed at me. i understand that His word convicts and i need conviction.. (well i know i have a ton to work on, i feel like a mess). but it leaves me feeling helpless and condemned. this happens when i listen to some sermons and podcasts too. it’s gotten better but fluctuated. i believe it scrupulosity & religious Ocd. thankfully i have one or two people in the church i can reach out to (they’re not close friends but lovely people) because this feels so isolating. and honestly frightening and overwhelming. i’m struggling to discern what is truly guidance from the Holy Spirit because i’ve been hearing a lot of different things (having so many thoughts). many that accuse. many that make me feel abandoned and without help. many that make me feel incredibly bad about myself. im struggling. and this is hard. please keep me in your prayers. this is affecting the way i see God and i don’t want it to. not because of the way it makes me feel but because i start to believe that maybe those thoughts are from Him… simply because i know how imperfect i am, i know i need His grace. truly, i do.i start thinking that maybe im just trying to deceive myself if i don’t believe those thoughts. i want to love Him and love His word. but i need help and support. thank you so much. 🤍😭🙏
@AHulin
@AHulin День назад
Praying for you🙏.
@smithavos898
@smithavos898 2 дня назад
I believe in a country like ours where we have a democratic process, policy alone should not be the driving force in choosing a candidate. Paul and the early Christians did not have that luxury. Integrity of a candidate matters. Sadly, the moral decline has been so drastic that we now have to overlook integrity for policy.
@daniellemarie0452
@daniellemarie0452 2 дня назад
We should feel comfortable allowing our kids to hear our president speak without cringing. If they are spreading hate, lies, and admission to not being a Christian, then we shouldn't vote for them. I will pray for them all, everyday.
@daniellemarie0452
@daniellemarie0452 2 дня назад
I'm in the Bible everyday. I go to church every week. I truly cannot understand voting for Trump. I've tried. Jesus would not. I know he wouldn't. Trump has no principle. He was a party liberal most his life until Republicans bought him.. I can't stand behind that.
@debbiebramwell
@debbiebramwell 2 дня назад
Yes, Trump is no leader. He has no integrity, morals , values, character. I can't believe Christians support him. Its crazy
@kimmy525
@kimmy525 2 дня назад
The Bible clearly condemns us for speaking out against people we don’t like for the same faults and or conditions of the heart that we overlook in those we do like. The Word of God explicitly tells those who are called Christ-ians in 2 Chronicle 7:14, “ "If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and I will heal their land.” Our country is at a precipice of imploding because Christians are not following God’s lead and giving others the right of free will. Instead of us allowing others to make their own choices, we exert our will on others just like the enemy of our souls does. There are blessings that come with freely obeying God. Let’s stop talking about it and be about it. Pray that God’s will be done. Amen!
@ravondalewis-sanon3920
@ravondalewis-sanon3920 16 часов назад
With murder, it’s not just about the pro-life/pro-choice, it’s also to what behavior the candidate ignites in his/her people. Are we inciting violence against others which will lead to murder/violence? It’s all the same blood is still on your hands. 🙏🏾
@andreasracha8185
@andreasracha8185 День назад
What if Christians prayed about whether to vote or not and the Holy Spirit discouraged it. Then they would be violating their conscience if they vote not so?
@spruill28
@spruill28 2 дня назад
African Americans have to look at so much more in addition to this.
@SonOfPsalms23
@SonOfPsalms23 2 дня назад
💯
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 дня назад
Black people in this country know how to vote, whether non-black people agree or understand. Stop assuming that how you think is beyond our consideration.
@LoneLast-m6k
@LoneLast-m6k День назад
What i hear you say, that where ever we are in the world, who ever rules as a government, first and foremost i have to grow in the healthy fear of the Lord and love and care about people in my local community. Even if political correctness is ungodly i don't have to be.
@patricialobos1263
@patricialobos1263 2 дня назад
Please do a video on Halloween. I believe I should have never celebrated this when my children who are grown Adults now. The Holy Spirit has convicted me that this is a Demonic holiday.
@kevinspano7315
@kevinspano7315 2 дня назад
Vladimir Savchuk has posted some videos about Halloween lately from a Christian perspective. Also John Ramirez.
@KneeBenderservant
@KneeBenderservant 2 дня назад
You said he convicted you. What if he didn’t convict someone else of it. Does God make some things off limits for some, but not for others?
@JoanneArc-or9sr
@JoanneArc-or9sr 5 дней назад
Pls do a video on how we should approach the war
@yllatusmuna
@yllatusmuna 2 дня назад
What war do you mean?
@linakalangi7942
@linakalangi7942 День назад
Which candidate do you believe has the heart to hear the voice of Holy Spirit is the crucial question, right?!
@diannaharrison5931
@diannaharrison5931 2 дня назад
I have grown to really love Donald, Melania and Barron as I pray daily for them. I have difficulty praying for Biden and Kamala but do, I will try to be more faithful.
@debbiebramwell
@debbiebramwell 2 дня назад
How? He lies about everything. Caused an insurrection. Cut taxes for the wealthy. Doesn't pay people. He has horrible character. What news are you watching? ( serious question)
@debbiebramwell
@debbiebramwell 2 дня назад
Pray for Trumps salvation, his family and for them to walk in the light not darkness.
@shawnmcquillan3874
@shawnmcquillan3874 2 дня назад
I agree
@brendahasley9765
@brendahasley9765 12 часов назад
I’m so confused now on your standings now.
@iindahammermueller9865
@iindahammermueller9865 2 дня назад
Lisa.. I love your hair .. you're beautiful
@ksnow4105
@ksnow4105 2 дня назад
Sooooo good ❤ thank you
@angelaiamwinning6570
@angelaiamwinning6570 День назад
Thank you John and Lisa you guys are a blessing to the Christian community. You helped me with this election because I was one that wasn't going to vote because I didn't agree with either one of them.
@desireepheister2633
@desireepheister2633 2 дня назад
Thank you for sharing this. My ballot is here beside me and I have been uncertain what to do. This really helped.
@tmack9079
@tmack9079 День назад
Yes!! SO GOOD Y’ALL!!!! 👏🏻
@brendahasley9765
@brendahasley9765 12 часов назад
I’m so not understanding why this is being said. You made a big point about abortion but what about the races comments and the division of our nation don’t you think when people do abortions it’s on them.
@christoprighteous8199
@christoprighteous8199 2 дня назад
Trump 2024
@trishanoren2437
@trishanoren2437 2 дня назад
Oh my goodness…😍 don’t tell me we’ll Still Be Here!!!!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣 There should be no question, Trump is more aligned With FatherGod and His Righteousness!!!!!!!!! He put Trump in office the first time, He can do it again!!!!!!!!!!!⚓️
@heidi6544
@heidi6544 2 дня назад
Trump Vance 2024!!!! Christ is King!
@CaptMoo
@CaptMoo 2 дня назад
I already voted for the one that didn't grab womens parts. www.youtube.com/@evangelicalsforharris
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 дня назад
Amen!
@debbiebramwell
@debbiebramwell 2 дня назад
💙💙💙💙💙💙
@marielundstrom7694
@marielundstrom7694 14 часов назад
This is not hard. This election should be easy for Amerikans. Harris Walz.
@AmMahmoud-p5t
@AmMahmoud-p5t 6 дней назад
All welcome and greetings to you, my dear brothers Allah Almighty said: (And they ask you about orphans. Say, "Improvement for them is best. But if you mix with them [your brothers]"). Your sister from Gaza, the wife of a martyr in the war of the flood of Al-Aqsa __y😞 Whoever complains of hardness in his heart, and wants his heart to be benevolent, he should have mercy on the orphan, stroke his head, and feed him from his food, so his heart will soften. 🤲🏻🤲🏻🤲🏻🤲🏻 I have a little girl, and we have no one to support us after my husband.) Our house was destroyed by the occupation forces. I need someone to help my daughter, even if it is something simple, and he will have a good deed with Allah that he will be rewarded for. "I and the sponsor of an orphan will be in heaven"
@JoanneArc-or9sr
@JoanneArc-or9sr 5 дней назад
JESUS IS LORD. MAHUMMAD IS A LIAR.
@joelthoreson8398
@joelthoreson8398 День назад
Though a have little else to offer, I pray for you, for your family, and for all the suffering people of Palestine. May God grant you peace, food to eat, a house to live in, and health for you and your dear child. Jesus said, "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. " May you find comfort. God promises, throughout the Bible, to bring justice when the powerful oppress those in need. I pray (and vote) for leaders who will not oppress and kill the Palestinian people in my country, in Israel, as well as in Palestine. May the Lord bless you and keep you. May the Lord's countenance shine upon you. May the Lord turn his face toward you and grant you peace. Assalaam'alaikum
@adorableone1980
@adorableone1980 2 дня назад
Voted Kamala Harris! Thank you for the encouragement to do so.
@Psalm144verse1
@Psalm144verse1 22 часа назад
Trump 2024
@ManiShepard
@ManiShepard 2 дня назад
Unless God tells me to vote I'm absolutely not doing it.
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