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Outdoor Wood Burning Garage Heater Upgrade 

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Finally had some time to repair/upgrade the garage heater; this things is working much better now! Last year when I designed this outdoor wood burning system I was hoping it would provide enough heat to warm up the garage fairly quickly throughout the winter. It worked great in the fall and spring but could not keep up in the dead of winter. I have made some improvements to the system and it seems to be working a whole lot better than it ever did last year.
I started with a small upgrade to the copper tubing at the wood stove which I detailed in another video earlier this fall. Now I have a totally of 40 feet of copper, 20 on the inside and 20 on the outside of the barrel. This will allow the antifreeze to circulate twice as long in contact with the heat and should improve the efficiency quite a bit.
The next improvement was the hardest part. I had to dig up the pex tubing running from the barrel stove to the garage and cover it with some 1/2" foam tubing insulation. I should have done this last year! Of course, during the dig I nicked the pex tubing and had to run to the store for a repair coupling. Once the tubing was repaired and all wrapped in a cozy winter blanky I buried it back underground about 12" deep.
The car radiator is mounted underneath my upper shelf on my workbench and although it does look intriguing I decided to give it a bit of polish and create a neat little frame around it. This covers up the edges and makes it look a bit more refined ( can a car radiator on your workbench look refined?) I used a few scrap deck boards and a few deck screws to get the job done.
All that was left was to fill the system with the recovered antifreeze from last year and get a fire started. I let the system cycle for about ten minutes and made a few last minute checks for leaks, none found! Next I started a healthy but smaller fire in the barrel stove and then hooked up the thermometer measure the inside heat coming out of the radiator. Temps started at about 100 and just kept climbing, higher, higher, and finally it was approaching 160 degrees and I was starting to get nervous. Some of the PVC fittings are only rated to 175 and I wasn't sure if they would hold up to sustained temps that high. I ran out and closed the air vents on the wood stove to kill off the fire a bit. This thing is working great now! The insulation made all the difference, last year's hottest temps were about 95-100 I believe.
The real test will be in the dead of winter when the temps get down below 20. I am going to work on insulating the garage door later this year also which should help a bit. I am excited to use this system throughout the winter this year and will keep you updated on how well it is working.
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@davisphillips7792
@davisphillips7792 4 года назад
I love the way you have the radiator setup to heat your garage I used to paint a lot in my garage and didn't want to put the wood burner inside so I had a small radiant wood burner that I build an enclosure around and blew the hot air from that into my garage and it worked great
@JosefKKafka
@JosefKKafka 2 года назад
Exactly my thoughts, tho' in my case the fan would be in the garage sucking the hot air in. That shelters the fan from the outside rain and snow.
@kentscoffey
@kentscoffey 5 лет назад
In the electrical trade, the small fans and pumps are referred to as "fractional horsepower motors" and aren't even included when calculating the load of a house. Kudos to your home built heater! It's a simple and clever idea that works for your project.
@mikeschumacher644
@mikeschumacher644 7 лет назад
thank you for your time & help. i've been looking for a way way to heat my wood working shop hear in aberdeen, s.d.may God bless you for your help.
@dominocus1
@dominocus1 8 лет назад
Thank you for the fine video.
@iamlordlinux2003
@iamlordlinux2003 8 лет назад
Keep up the good work; we really enjoy your videos. I'm also frugal, and your projects mirror many of mine.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+MT Cool, any ideas or input you have are always welcome here! Thanks for watching!
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Год назад
Thank You for information and advice. Never know when you’ll need it so I’m building one
@williamalston4660
@williamalston4660 8 лет назад
thanks for this update and others on your wood heating project... this is great... thanks again william
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+william alston No problem! Glad you found it interesting!
@TravisInCanada1
@TravisInCanada1 7 лет назад
Great video, good information. I am in the same boat with regards to not wanting to put a wood burning stove in my garage. My brick fire pit is about 25ft from the garage in the back yard I would like to make a vented enclosure for it to use in the winter as make shift stove that could work as something like what you are doing. Thanks for posting this.
@Sheila6325
@Sheila6325 8 лет назад
Woo Hoo!! Great system!
@MarshBryan
@MarshBryan 7 лет назад
We live in France and our primary heat source is a log burner in the main living room, and only supplies heat to that one room! in the other rooms we have a couple of oil filled rads and a paraffin/kerosene heater I am so tempted to try this....
@42lookc
@42lookc 7 лет назад
That looks really good! The deck wood picture frame border really cleaned up the installation. I use a 200 gallon furnace oil tank for an outdoor incinerator. It stands upright outside my shop with an expanded steel mesh loading door on one end, and a smokestack out the top of the other. I bought a great big, heavy gauge, oval cross section tractor muffler with a 4" inlet and outlet for a heat exchanger. The baffles in the muffler, plus the 3 foot muffler body itself should allow lots of opportunity to pick up heat. I also bought a large, heavy gauge 4" elbow for it off of eBay. I want to hang the muffler lengthways in the top of the incinerator, with one end protruding through the end under the smokestack. The other end will have the elbow attached, and come out the side of the incinerator body. That'll be the inlet. There will be that one elbow joint inside the incinerator, but I will use lots of muffler cement, and clamp it tight, so it shouldn't allow any CO2 entry. Insulated duct pipe to and from the building and a 4" axial fan with a thermostat will complete the installation for what should be a pretty powerful air to air outdoor heater. I could even supplement it with coils around the muffler and a radiator inside for a liquid to air exchanger to get the maximum out of the build. What do you think?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 7 лет назад
wow, that sounds like it will work great, I would be interested to see how much heat exchange you get using just air and also, the only thing I would worry about would be CO2, make sure you seal up that joint or try to keep the joints outside of the tank somehow.
@shade98765
@shade98765 8 лет назад
Great video man.....Great Idea!
@jeremynorton3832
@jeremynorton3832 8 лет назад
Great Job!
@hmax1591
@hmax1591 8 лет назад
Good video. Thanks for sharing.
@stirlingman1
@stirlingman1 8 лет назад
Great job Family dad! I have a similar situation with insurance. I would like to burn the wood that I would not burn in the house such as pine and other soft wood. Soft wood is something that I have plenty of because I disassemble skids and pallets to heat my home and the runners are all heavy oak leaving me with pine as cross members. I'm anxious to try this, because it will give me a way to use it instead of wastefully burning it in my fire pit. Thumbs up!
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
That was more or less the reason I started thinking of this. There are so many free sources of wood that people can use but not always something you would want to burn inside. Great point man, thanks for sharing
@CrowdSurfingGeezer
@CrowdSurfingGeezer 8 лет назад
Very resourceful! Not a fraction of the cost of using an elec heater!
@joycemastaw910
@joycemastaw910 8 лет назад
I think this is such a great idea. I've shared it with several people. Recently, son in law Greg and Son in law Mike. I'm anxious to find out if they decide to try it.
@bundiesel8472
@bundiesel8472 7 лет назад
you could build a box for your blue and black tubes next to your heater and bury it at ground level so you don't have to dig it up but still have a concealable access
@vasokcolumbus4833
@vasokcolumbus4833 8 лет назад
Good job man)
@PainterD54
@PainterD54 6 месяцев назад
You should build a small housing around that stove (or a small tin building) to protect it and contain more of the heat. I know how hot they can burn but you'd be able to save alot of wood if you enclosed it and contain more of the heat.
@earthishome1866
@earthishome1866 2 года назад
Very nice.
@richarddowner4292
@richarddowner4292 7 лет назад
just a FYI, what else works Great for pipe insulation is pool noodles...... I use them at the end of the year (after pool season is over) and I make a slice down the middle of them and wrap my pipes with them.. ya my pipes in the basement looks like a clown throw up all over the piping, but the pipes are well insulated... + there thicker and also cheap...
@richarddowner4292
@richarddowner4292 7 лет назад
topherh33 hey They work Great!!! :-)
@efilnikufecin2004
@efilnikufecin2004 8 лет назад
You should bury the pipe deeper in the ground so that the dirt will insulate it. In my area 3 feet is enough to get below the frost line in the ground to prevent underground pipes from freezing, and I figure it would be a more appropriate depth for your heating pipes too.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
That would be optimal but I am not a huge fan of digging a trench 3 feet deep:)
@JebGardener
@JebGardener 8 лет назад
How long did it take you to excavate the line? I need to dig up some old sprinklers around my garden. Curious how long it might take.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+Jeb Gardener The trench I have is about 25 ft. IT took me about an hour to dig it all up and if I hadn't broken the pex tubing it would have been less than 90 minutes total to insulate and re bury it.
@carlito3094
@carlito3094 3 года назад
Try to mount the fan with solar panels... and battery I think it would work! Awesome video
@lalo01231
@lalo01231 7 лет назад
Have you considered using a check valve instead of a sump pump (or recirculating pump), and having the bucket above the radiator causing it to recirculate by using gravity? Very similar to how a coffee maker works. This method will eliminate the need and noise of a pump and will also add humidity to the room at your discretion (open the bucket lid) since the water coming in will be boiling hot.
@citrusfarmer
@citrusfarmer 8 лет назад
nice video
@wittythings
@wittythings 8 лет назад
Great video as always! I will check out the paper briquettes video...
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I will be making a new paper briquettes making station this fall too which will make it easier to make a bunch at once
@terrylutke
@terrylutke 7 лет назад
Nice! Tubing wrap near the stove bottom is kind of a waste of copper. I have a barrel stove and find the bottom 1/3 of the stove's exterior does not get very hot compared to the top 2/3 of the barrel. I'm not sure of a better way without a ton of fittings and labor, I do like the idea of the copper on the outside of the wood stove.
@terry2346
@terry2346 8 лет назад
I really like the idea of this and would like to know how it went in the dead of winter as I would love to be able to work in my garage - but high temps of less than 10 below is just too cold to heat it during our Minnesota winters using electricity!!
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I have tested it a few times this year in the very cold weather. The issue I am having right now is that it overheats and shuts off the pump so I am going to try a bigger fan to get more of the heat into the room quicker. I will do a video update soon
@dropshot1967
@dropshot1967 8 лет назад
If you run into problems with extreme low temperatures after the insulation of your lines, you could consider to put your lines deeper underground. I saw you bury them relatively shallow. This could lead to the ground around the lines being frozen during al longer cold spell. If you put them at a depth of 2 feet or even slightly more, than you as good as eliminate that problem.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+Jelle Baris I totally agree, deeper is better but I am always short on time with these projects it seems:) the insulation is working awesome, in fact it is too hot now and I need a bigger fan
@roberthansberger7300
@roberthansberger7300 8 лет назад
Looks like you need to insulate the pool lines now. I was going to suggest as you find free stuff look for old bricks and box it in heater. The heat will be held with in the walls and maybe a even smaller fire will heat your garage like seeing the double duty of the heater. :)
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+Robert Hansberger That same though crossed my mind a few times. I thought about using cinder blocks to build a small wall around it and fill it in with sand or something. Great idea!
@terrylutke
@terrylutke 7 лет назад
Don't invest too much time into 55gallon drum stove projects..the barrels are good for about 3 seasons b4 rust through. The door/leg and stack flanges can be moved to replacement barrels of course. Stainless 55G drums are available, I'm tempted to try one next time mine needs replacing.
@juts_chevys342
@juts_chevys342 3 года назад
I just bought a kerosene heater for my garage. Each fill lasts about 8 hrs takes about 2 hrs to be comfortable. 1 5 gal jug lasts about 4 fills.
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy 6 лет назад
PEX in & out through pool-noodles, wrapped together with layers of newspapers, (bubble wrap if you have) then aluminum foil & finally plastic tubing. HDPE film is best for under ground films. I'm running 110ft away from boiler. less than a 5 degree drop is good for a less than 1$ a foot run. Peace Out!
@techRoom429
@techRoom429 8 лет назад
Very cool idea, love it! If you don't mind me asking, what is the sq ft that this setup is heating? Thanks for sharing. I was thinking about something similar, but the radiator was the missing link.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
It is a standard 2 car garage but with taller ceilings (15ft) all drywalled and insulated
@fredparker5801
@fredparker5801 6 лет назад
I like the wood barrel for outdoor use. I am trying to get the wood heater out of the house and placing it about fifty feet away. I plan to use 50 feet of 1/2 copper tubing wrapping the 55 gal barrel and doing the water to hot air heat exchange to help heat a 1200 sq ft house. Any comments on if this will work?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 6 лет назад
+fred parker make sure to insulate those lines to and from the house and also use a 55 gallon drum inside somewhere to add thermal mass to the system. Get a good circulation pump!
@smitty_1
@smitty_1 7 лет назад
rap most insulated PEX lines with insulation and put them in a 6 inch pipe and bury that. You will have very minimal heat loss into the ground. we done this in at 75 feet there was a 22 degree heat loss when it is 14 degrees outside
@mjsmason
@mjsmason 7 лет назад
How did it work this winter? Im thinking of doing something similar with a rocket stove
@hippie784
@hippie784 7 лет назад
wow that looks like a great little system you have there if I could only make one suggestion to you that I could see is with the temperatures of the antifreeze you're dealing with I might recommend using a metal bucket would hate to see you come into your garage one morning and have antifreeze everywhere
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 7 лет назад
it gets pretty hot but not hot enough to melt that plastic, if it got that hot it would melt all the tubing also !
@markhuisinga1698
@markhuisinga1698 7 лет назад
Also have to think about the temperature drop after the radiator does its job. The coolant will be significantly cooler than the incoming coolant from the stove.
@tommyevans8449
@tommyevans8449 8 лет назад
An initial backfill of sand will make a digging back up easier.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
Great point!
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 8 лет назад
i wonder if that insulation stuff will soak up moisture if it is the insulation prolly whont work verry whell once it starts raining you could build the furnace closer to the building and make it a recycle air heat exchanger by putting several pipes in the furnace and recycle air from inside through it indoors , a bathroom fan will prolly work best in a ducted airsystem if you can make it push the air intoo the tube (think the way the steamlocomotive boilers did that to heat water but instead of water / steam theres fire and instead of fire theres air going through ) if the piping system leak in the furnace there is a bigger chance of monoxide poisoning though
@johnnewman8737
@johnnewman8737 8 лет назад
Another way to transfer more heat to the garage and prevent the pump from overheating would be to add a length of Pex tubing between the radiator and the pump. If you lay 50 or 100 ft of tubing directly on the concrete slab (I would just coil it around the perimeter walls), you can transfer the residual heat via conduction to the slab and cool the working fluid down more before it heads to the pump. Commercial solutions for radiant floor heat use the same principle, but with extra aluminum fins, probably not necessary. It will increase your pressure head a little, but probably not a significant amount if the entire coil is at the same elevation. In my mind, this is a cheap and easy-implementation solution.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+John Newman Great idea, I was thinking about adding a coil of pex and just have it coiled on the floor to absorb more heat and may do that or just add another radiator. Thanks for the idea!
@ryanouski
@ryanouski 8 лет назад
I would suggest adding a relief valve. If it doesn't already. If your pump quits you'll be super heating your liquid and if it gets hot enough boom!! Even add a valve inside to slow water down when it's cold so it goes thru coil on wood stove slower = hotter water.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
Great points. Many have mentioned the relief valve but this is an open loop system that uses the bucket as a sump. Any pressure that starts to build just pushes fluid up Into the bucket. Also using coolant prevents it from boiling even if the pump stops (this happened twice this week because the water is getting too hot coming into the garage and kicking off my pump.
@tysoncurtis1455
@tysoncurtis1455 8 лет назад
cool idea. that 1 glove is sending my OCD into overdrive.
@hollyprokop6823
@hollyprokop6823 8 лет назад
How insulated is your garage one, and second what is the ambient temp you can keep it at during let say teens to twenties in the spring? Also I really enjoy your videos. I am setting up an aquaponics setup this winter.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+Chad Prokop Good luck on the aquaponics setup! As far as the garage goes, it is fully insulated and dry walled, also has bonus room above it. Only thing that is not insulated is the garage door. I may get that taken care of this winter. I will do a follow up video with the improvements when it gets cold enough for me to test but last year I when it was 30+ outside I could keep the garage at 70.
@kurtpippus
@kurtpippus 4 года назад
So do you need to keep the fire going all winter to keep the pipes from freezing ?
@g.r.4853
@g.r.4853 5 лет назад
In the few years this was posted, I wonder if you finally decided the "expensive brass fittings" were worth the money considering all the work involved in switching it from pool to garage and back twice a year. Spending seconds instead of an hour or more plus parts when you goof?
@tprovo6951
@tprovo6951 3 года назад
Question, to heat my hot tub I want to put a coil in a Turkey fryer pot full of hot water, so boil water to make hot water, what do you think of that idea?
@garyhalverson5607
@garyhalverson5607 7 лет назад
curious, what state do you live in? I am in Minnesota, -16 right now. Wondering how this would work in my shed. Are you using 3/4 lines? is the antifreeze in a closed system or is it circulating in the 5 gallon buck I see in your video?
@MrPlemke50
@MrPlemke50 6 лет назад
Wouldn't using a 55 gallon barrel work as a heat sink? It would keep your water temps down, but there would be more water, and more stored heat.
@roberthansberger7300
@roberthansberger7300 8 лет назад
Don't know why, but I was thinking about you issue with the pump shut down because of the high heat and had some ideas. Here we go. 1 buy a pump that is rated for the heat. 2 expand you heat transfer area add another radiator before the pump get more heat removed from the fluid, but will take up more room not compact. 3 went off the deep end here rig up an old automotive water pump somehow. 4 This is from when I was Stationed in Korea, they heat the floor two ways. First was the old way to vent the heat from a fire in the kitchen under the floor of the main living area, Dangerous co2 poison. Second is running water pipes under the floor.The new systems are high TEC. with pumps. But when I was there in the early 80's they coiled the pipe around the heat source and in under the floor, then they would start the flow with the heat from a charcoal stove hot water pipe running out the top,cool water pipe return low with a water expansion tube running up the wall and open at the top. you could tell how your system was doing by the level of the fluid. here is the rub it took a while to warm up, and it was the primary heat source using a charcoal brick lasted about 8 hours. and all of this was approx same height. It might work with you radiator and I think with a Brass swing check valve to keep the water moving in one direction. so you don't have to run a pump. oh well that is the end of my ideas. I did loose sleep thinking about this and it's not my problem go figure.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
Lol you really did lose sleep thinking about this:) the first two options you gave were the two I have been considering. Circulation pumps are the best option or like you said I could also put another radiator and fan which would also help spread the heat around a bit. Thanks for the ideas!!
@nathandean1687
@nathandean1687 7 лет назад
use some divertor valves in there as well.
@nathandean1687
@nathandean1687 7 лет назад
use food grade anti freeze as your heating fliud. that wawy your pipes wont bust as well.
@sys1aeg
@sys1aeg 4 года назад
If you stick the pipe in a corrugated 4 inch pipe and foam fill it will be less heat loss
@b3motorsports796
@b3motorsports796 7 лет назад
I have one question. you might of said it and I missed it. but how many square feet is your garage?? I'm trying to see if this is a good option for my garage.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 7 лет назад
+b3 motorsports standard two car garage. Maybe 400 or 500 square feet.
@davidjeanis3820
@davidjeanis3820 7 лет назад
is the pump really needed? would not the antifreeze circulate with the heat?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 7 лет назад
without the pump the water temp would be so high it would start melting the solder and the tubing
@nathandean1687
@nathandean1687 7 лет назад
you need to use some thermal eltrictic generator on that wood stove. to generator power.
@josephladegast3000
@josephladegast3000 8 лет назад
find some old cement blocks and build barrier wall to keep heat going where you want
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I have thought of that. Might try it this summer and also back fill with some sand. Thanks
@shartne
@shartne 8 лет назад
Good idea. I would like to do that so I could keep the ashes out of the house and have more room for living space instead of having the stove inside.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+shartne It is not as efficient as having it right inside but no smoke, heat danger for kids, insurance is cheaper, and you can keep the wood and ashes all outside.
@shartne
@shartne 8 лет назад
+SSLFamilyDad I really think you should spring for the ball check valves not that expensive and it would be worth it.
@brandonkehoe565
@brandonkehoe565 8 лет назад
+shartne You may want to look at an outdoor wood furnace. I have had mine little over a year and love it.
@shartne
@shartne 8 лет назад
+Brandon Kehoe Make a video I d like to see what it looks like and how it works.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
Agreed! Now that I have ironed out some of the testing and I see that it works well enough to keep using I will probably improve it in the spring
@joe5938
@joe5938 8 лет назад
I think you might get a better R value on your buried PEX by just running it through a two inch piece of PVC so there is no direct contact with the soil or the moisture in the soil
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I thought about that actually and then maybe squirting in some expanding foam as well. Maybe if this doesn't work out well this winter I will dig it back up and do that
@joe5938
@joe5938 8 лет назад
I thought about possibly filling it with great stuff. You could drill several hold along the length so that you can get it distributed evenly. Thanks for the video, I do woodworking and I'm looking for ways to heat my shop with the sawdust.
@mkckf4l
@mkckf4l 8 лет назад
wonder why you didn't do all that first? they make 1'' pex with insulation
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+mkckf4l Well, where were you when I did this project the first time?:) I was just cutting corners and trying to keep cost down. Experimenting doesn't always get budget priority at our homestead:)
@NewsThatMatterUsa
@NewsThatMatterUsa Год назад
You should put your lines deeper into the earth . I guess idk what climate you are in exactly but if your getting freezing temps and snow I suggest going deeper
@nickdannunzio7683
@nickdannunzio7683 7 лет назад
Your heater needs an internal afterburner... Instead of insulating the heater, enclose it (maybe as part of the garage) with a door where the 2 structures meet (open in winter closed in summer)... Put PVC ball valves (in a hand-hole box) where you are digging up ever change in season... (fill the hole with a trash bag filled with packing peanuts for insulation)... In stead of enclosing the radiator to should be encouraging air circulation around it (maybe even some firebrick for mass) The fluid will cycle through your system without a pump (maybe a check valve if your system need a directional flow... Godspeed...
@cgregornik
@cgregornik 7 лет назад
What growing zone (6,7) are you in that you only have to bury the pex 12" ?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 7 лет назад
+Missouri Zone 5 oh it could have been buried much deeper if I wanted to go below the frost line. Frost line here is 36-42" michigan
@cgregornik
@cgregornik 7 лет назад
Thanks for answering quickly! I love this idea. Great job.
@motivatedbydesigns
@motivatedbydesigns 8 лет назад
Thxs for the info on insulating the lines I will follow suit. :)
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+David Bman Cool man, can't wait to see it in final configuration.
@billwdw04
@billwdw04 5 лет назад
You mentioned a plenum for the fan, then, you didn't do it. A plenum would result in more air through the radiator (less air loss ) and also it would use more of the radiator surface, therefore, more heat with the same fan.
@PIGLETTWTERRETS
@PIGLETTWTERRETS 8 лет назад
Ok but wont you be getting antifreeze in your pool now?I mean sure you can drain it out and refill it with clean water but antifreeze is oily so what are your thoughts on that.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I just flush it out really good and run some chlorinated water through it before I hook it back up to circulate the pool water
@PIGLETTWTERRETS
@PIGLETTWTERRETS 8 лет назад
Very good thanks for the reply
@jmn1234
@jmn1234 Год назад
I take it that the codes in your area do not allow for a wood stove in the garage?
@KmanJeeper
@KmanJeeper 8 лет назад
Although it would cost a little bit, if you built a little insulated shed(dog house size) around the barrel stove that might help retain some heat on those really cold days. Maybe source some used/reclaimed materials from Craigslist.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+KmanJeeper I have thought about that. Maybe using cinder blocks could be cheap
@volvo09
@volvo09 7 лет назад
KmanJeeper that seems like a good idea... make a cinder block or even a rock wall around the drum for thermal mass and fill it with sand and small stones. this is an awesome project... I heat with wood but i can't put a wood stove in my current garage so this would be great. thanks for the video!
@everettleonard2782
@everettleonard2782 7 лет назад
I understand the reason you don't put wood heater in garage. but it would be way more efficient. as for pool heater my idea is going to be diy solar collector. build insulated box painted black inside with coils of 3/4 pex. also get solar electric panel to power 12v pump. initial cost my be a little high but it would be absolutely free afterwards. good vid tho man
@Mattnh
@Mattnh 4 года назад
Vogelzang! :D Yes, I am Dutch. :)
@cobra646
@cobra646 8 лет назад
Do you just leave the stove sitting out exposed like that? I bet you could drastically decrease your fuel burn if you shelter it from the wind even with a bit of metal siding or something simple.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+cobra646 I have thought about making a cinder block wall around it to keep the heat in. You are right about the heat loss for sure.
@sheldonwagner3005
@sheldonwagner3005 8 лет назад
the water should go in bottom of rad that way rad will be full all the time and there's vid on here with a 12 volt car water pump that mite work.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
That is a good idea and something others have suggested also. Might have to switch that around when I get a chance
@glxbt1987
@glxbt1987 8 лет назад
you should consider dropping the lines below your frost line
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
Great point! Only issue I have with that is the frost line here is 42-46 inches:) didn't want to dig that much! You are right though, it would work much better
@glxbt1987
@glxbt1987 8 лет назад
+SSLFamilyDad oh wow. Frost Line here's only about 18 inches.
@thatruth10111111
@thatruth10111111 5 лет назад
Two tees and 4 Valves maybe $20 that solves digging up and switching it every year that's craziness. And you need to make real connections with the pex get the tool and the rings not spring clamps especially if you are running glycol u don't want leaks then again it should be all copper don't want to overheat the pex
@smitty_1
@smitty_1 7 лет назад
sorry for the spell check. Wrap your insulated PEX with house insulation and put it in a 6 inch pipe
@tanksanatra
@tanksanatra 7 лет назад
Smitty plus bury the led deeper below the frostline
@mtngoat58
@mtngoat58 8 лет назад
build you a small tin shed around that stove and insulate it you will burn a lot less wood
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I thought about just using cinder blocks to build a small wall around it and then back fill with sand or dirt.
@mtngoat58
@mtngoat58 8 лет назад
that would work too----metal studs and some cheap metal sheet roofing be easier and some insulation dont have to be very tall and either way wouldnt take much material
@mikepruett1745
@mikepruett1745 2 года назад
maybe a thermostat like a car in the water line might control the temp
@pizann350
@pizann350 8 лет назад
That foam you are using is R-1 , not very much r value, you could use that foam and then rap with reflec Tex , will also keep any ground water out, thanks for sharing
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+steve fabiano Yeah I thought about going up to the better rubber insulation but did I say I was cheap somewhere in this video?:) I think that the combination of the insulation and it being buried seems to have worked but I might look into that reflec Tex, haven't used that.
@pizann350
@pizann350 8 лет назад
+SSLFamilyDad it's like a bubble rap, with tin foil on both sides, it has a good reflective R value, Home Depot or lowes sells it.
@ericmartin9299
@ericmartin9299 8 лет назад
+SSLFamilyDad - The earth around the pipes has a higher r-Value than the insulation, about 1 R per 4 inches of dirt. From the looks of the ditch it's at least 6" deep so 1 for the wrap and 1.5 for the dirt gives about 2.5 which is actually pretty good.
@theguywhorarelylies5454
@theguywhorarelylies5454 6 лет назад
I would've put a removable steel box around the body of the barrel...problem solved.
@wkw4095
@wkw4095 7 лет назад
Better off making a wood stove.....I heat a 2400 sq. foot house with one. Using this system for your pool water is very awesome!
@GENECARP
@GENECARP 6 лет назад
O brother
@markhuisinga1698
@markhuisinga1698 7 лет назад
I know you're on a budget and it seems like everyone else wants to chime in without watching the whole video. I have watched a couple of your videos but not all. I did however notice in your first scene that your garage door looks uninsulated. This would help A LOT it is easy to do. My garage is uninsulated with bare studs and rafters OLD wood siding boards not plywood. I have an insulated door and the door seals around the door to seal the wind out. And it keeps the garage warm enough to melt all the snow off the car with NO HEATER.
@roberthansberger7300
@roberthansberger7300 8 лет назад
oh yea just thought of something else fans pull air better than push.Are you going to finish boxing in the radiator and pull off the floor to heat the coolest air in the room as it is now you will pull from the sides leaving a layer of cold air on the floor. bet you can direct the air down toward the floor with some cardboard. side note I had to change a water pump on my truck in the middle of the winter and when I put in the fresh water and anti freeze could not start the engine as the water pump was froze had to take off the belt start the engine get it warm and the replace the belt. I wish I had you heater back then. it was close to 0 degrees that day. burrrrrrrr.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+Robert Hansberger Well I am considering changing the air flow since this is so much hotter than it was last year I am now starting to run into the issue f getting too hot and tripping the overload on the submersible pump. One it hits about 160 for a bit the pump shuts off so it looks like I do need a bigger fan after all now to get the heat into the room quicker.
@dustyeid89
@dustyeid89 8 лет назад
what kind of pump is that ?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+dustyeid89 link should be in the description. I will check when I am at the computer later
@sweetlovetiger
@sweetlovetiger 8 лет назад
hey bud tell me how it go's over the winter on that so I know how well it works I live in Michigan to. My niece uses my you tube also and she into gymnastics I didn't have it on privet and got weird people asking weird stuff loll. she tried those kale chips and burn them she almost cried till I said I think burn sacrifice stopped long ago she laughed and wondered how you make them she watches your kids on here she 8 and I am glad she getting into good food and good habits she my little angel that god gave me
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I will do an update on it in a month or two. Glad your little girl likes the sslkids! Tell her hi from us and god bless you man.
@richprich
@richprich 8 лет назад
I have heard that tree service will deliver wood to you for free if you ask
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I have thought of calling some of them for wood chips. Never thought about asking for wood, good idea!
@foxrider6218
@foxrider6218 4 года назад
Feel like ur time digging that up every year to switch it would be worth the valves ur time cost cant get it back lol
@plnthrd
@plnthrd 2 года назад
try using RV antifreeze it's much cheaper
@jamesduffy8153
@jamesduffy8153 2 года назад
Sleeve your lines with pvc.
@kakytoo69
@kakytoo69 7 лет назад
..... You could've just put the wood burner in your garage.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 7 лет назад
+kakytoo69 I explain that in the first video, but thanks:)
@petewhite347
@petewhite347 7 лет назад
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@MrPlemke50
@MrPlemke50 6 лет назад
kakytoo69 Insurance would go up.
@davidcorbett6121
@davidcorbett6121 8 лет назад
I think someone kind of alluded to this, but the black pipe insulation, My concern would be in the insulating value (especially above the frost line, during a hard freeze), being designed for dry, air insulation, not ground contact. I fear that once good and wet, if the ground freezes, so will the insulation, rendering it almost moot. I did like the comment about the "2nd radiator" to cool the fluid before the pump. but. .instead of a 2nd radiator. .what about just moving the pump to after the radiator you have?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
+David Corbett great point on the insulation, I guess I will be able to tell you once it gets colder outside how well it actually works. If this were a main source of heat for our home I would definitely get them under the frost line and use some better insulation but just can't justify it for this project yet, maybe next year:) the pump is actually already after the radiator but it is just not cooling the fluid down enough before it gets to the pump. I need a ore powerful fan or a second radiator, I was thinking about running some pex into the basement and making a second heater there but we will see how well it works when it is good and cold outside first.
@mnshp7548
@mnshp7548 8 лет назад
use a solar panel 20w, 12v battery and a simple computer fan and water pump off ebay wont cost you more than 70$ but then free energy
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I have thought about putting this little setup on solar, might happen next year
@dexterquincy1
@dexterquincy1 8 лет назад
Why not just put the wood burner in the garage?
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
Insurance won't allow without paying a higher amount
@woodstock2918
@woodstock2918 6 лет назад
Your voice? I know it don't u have a gaming channel?
@violetmasterson9305
@violetmasterson9305 8 лет назад
what you have is the most god awful example of an outdoor boiler I have ever seen. if you want it to work well you need volume. there needs to be at least 100 gallons of water surrounding the firebox. If you are determined to not use a water jacket design then you need to take you copper coil and wrap the entire barrel from one end to the other at least twice then put a thermal mass (weather it be cob or just pour concrete) around it to absorb the heat and allow it to go into the coil over a period of time.from there insulate the crap out of it and enclose it. then you might have something.
@SSLFamilyDad
@SSLFamilyDad 8 лет назад
I agree. If you have some spare time and money could you stop by and get all that done for me?
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