thank you for sharing David I found it very Interesting. As a Veteran and a gun collector my self (I have an original 1865-1875 Sharps Rifle in 40-90Bn ) too see some of the fantastic firearms you own and shoot is very humbling. I hope you get all you want for this pistol and then some.
Hi Aaron ; Thanks for the reply. I also have a original Sharps. It's a 1865 carbine that was a factory metallic cartridge conversion to 50-70 in 1867. I've carried deer hunting a few times but so far haven't harvested anything with it. I've had better luck with my Springfield 1873 rifle in 45-70 thou. Ain't nothing better than shooting a 100 plus year old gun. David
I had the pleasure in speaking to David for a few hours this evening, and found out many details were left out of the Lost episode on the History Channel. If anyone out there has the money to purchase such a pistol, it would be worth your while to contact him.
This is very well put together and very good research I would like to know if there has been any additional information that you have found out about this gun
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
This is unbelievable to me, you have Jesse James gun? That is so cool. I love learning about all types of history but the American West era is so intriguing to me.
Yeah and he “shoots the hell out of it” because why not add his stupid ass to its history. “Shot by Jesse James, but mostly shot by some fat cowboy action shooting self-important fool that takes his play time too seriously.” Honestly it’s morons like this that ruin much of history. I’ll just grab some of my antiques and add to their history by f’ing them up. Why not? I mean I own them now, no matter how they got to me. Brilliant shit
I got a letter from Smith & Wesson and they said they are considering making the Schofield again. I wrote them a letter they should make Singel Action revolvers to compete againts Ruger and Colt in Cowboy Action Shooting. They wrote back it could happen in further.
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I watched you on that episode truly amazing .when I saw this vidio I remembered the show .it's amazing your a Lucky guy and glad u shoot some .I wouldn't shoot that one but glad u do the others
That is just so cool. I'm surprised the original auction place where the gun was acquired didn't take the grips off and see the blood.(I always take grips off, etc., any used revolver or pistol I buy just to check it out, ya know? Curiosity of my new acquisition.) Also, I'm wondering why there are so many signatures on the inside of the grips? Even without the historical prominence that is one nice revolver for the age...better than any ol' Uberti!!! Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your find. Has this gun ever been featured in American Rifleman, by chance? Jeff T., Pittsburgh, PA USA
As if, everyone else get’s to see this video before we do! It’s our history! I will now forever remember this when I watch the history channel! I now have a whole different outlook on these programs! And will now know possible most of the rest of the world has seen the program before I was watching it! Thanks for the final analysis, and I think you might possibly be correct with your final analysis! Thanks for the video!
I am pretty sure I have the last pistol Jessie carried. My great grandfather bought it from Frank James before he passed. It was an 1860 Colt and still shoots great.
Thankyou, Mr. Dave Baumann, for showing Jesse James's, Smith and Wesson scofield, on You Tube. I also want to thankyou, for the interesting narrative, and your opinion what really occurred, when James was shot by Bob Ford, I believe it were in a rented house outside of St.Joseph, Mo. Anyway I wish you well !!! , and may you get final confirmation on the blood DNA on the scofield revolver of Jesse's. Kevin Phoenix
Mate if you contact Forgotten gun's and get into there ear about that gun they just might be able to help you out . They have modern equipment buddy . Great story you got there and lots of beautiful and really cool gun's. I reckon it's JJ's gun mate . Great stuff
Thanks; I found it after you posted this. The History Channel finally released it to the public for free viewing. They were charging $2.99 per episode unless you had cable tv and knew your password.
As a blood relative of the James family, congratulations! I watched the show on TV but just stumbled upon this video. Thanks! Really historical. Now Please find Custer's Falling block rifle and if anybody can that's you. Happy shooting! Again, thanks, David.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I just saw your reply while cleaning my computer. No jealousy, it's the biggest mystery out there in the gun collecting world, my friend! Let's be honest Hugh, wouldn't you like to find that rifle? It's gotta be out there. You may be the one to come across it, if you did, I would be the first to congratulate you...Happy Hunting!
@@robertscheinost179 My reply was directed at some idiot named Jo Wilkish, who has since deleted his comment, which if I remember was quite derogatory towards you.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Thanks for the info, Hugh. I remember that comment. His ancestor was supposedly killed by my ancestor, like we choose our ancestors! He told me to go to Hell and I responded by telling him to F himself. Thanks for the clarification!
I watched the video on History Channel and at the beginning you mentioned you had thoroughly inspected the piece to learn if it was safe to fire, and it was not mentioned if you did or did not ever fire the piece. 1 ) Did you ever fire this Schofield ? 2 ) Does this Schofield chamber a .45 caliber cartridge ?
I've shot the pistol around 500 times. But only 100 times since the signature on the grips proved to be Jesse's I've let several of my friends shoot it. I reload my own shells for it in 45 caliber Schofield with smokeless powder.
Just saw the show that was on 'Found' Why Hopefully, near future DNA advancements will be able to verify that this was indeed Jesse's blood and this was definitely the gun he had one hit when he was killed like you suspected. Thanks for posting such a fascinating story and best of luck. Any updates, please post them !
You are welcome. The purpose of this video is to try to make contact with the person that owns the original signed Jesse James picture or a different DNA expert that believes he can get DNA out of these 135 year old blood stains.
@@davidbaumann8683 No question in my mind this is James' gun. Nobody that works for a living has time to engrave their name 5 times on the inside grip of their gun. A lazy person hanging around between crimes has plenty of time to do this.
appreciating is one thing. shooting them in competition is another . These guns have served their time and belong in a museum or collection . I just can't get behind the knowing destruction of rare antiques . I mean he is shooting the Jesse James pistol and with every shot he is actively making the gun worth less and putting wear and tear on historic items for no good reason . I wish shooting these old guns was not doing that but it is and what in the heck is he doing shooting the gun Jesse James signed in the first place?
jesusoftheapes as far as I’m concerned ther his he bought them and he is a cowboy shooter I would shoot them to ther his I’m sure the black powder he loads into these is not that string to wreck them like I say he paid for them might as well use them as look at them
David have you had any updates on the gun as any other info or DNA Testing on the grips. A really great story as I grew up in Kansas city MO. have been to just about every Jesse James museum. from Missouri to Kansas.. please let us know either in another video or a response. would love to hear... thanks for a great story which I find to be very true based on evidence you have produce...
Sir you are a rare breed, I'm extremely happy this gun landed in your hands. People are always going to be jealous and say mean things. You did a great job in this video and I am a fan. Have a blessed day brother.
I’m not jealous or drunk but why the hell would you shoot the hell out of that gun? You’re not adding to its history, you are taking away from it since you are not a legend like Jesse James. We don’t buy famous antique swords and practice cuts with them. Using these old guns is destructive, as you damn well know, and if you are shooting the hell out of it, that’s a damn shame, sir. I hope I misunderstood something because I have no problem shooting old guns but not ones with provenance. I could see shooting a few times but to treat is as you would any tool is ignorant and callous.
@@jimjohn9041 What an asshole! You have a problem with shooting a gun with provenance but you don't OWN this gun so why are YOU giving the OWNER a hard way to go? Maybe you're not drunk or jealous so what is your beef with someone does legally with his possessions? Head case, perhaps??? Mr. Baumann does not need your advice on what he should or should not do.
@@jimjohn9041 it doesn't belong to you He can melt it and make a horse shoe with it if he wanted to, but no, he is sharing it with us. You sir are a Tool lol
Your collection is pricless alone in my opinion. Jessies gun is awesome and I would put it on display for the world to see. I think it could make millions of dollars just to get to see it in real life. Thank you for the video her and yes I watched the tv show when it came out and TV is bad about half truthes.
I contacted the auction house and since I wasn't the original purchaser and the sale happened before they went to storing every thing on a computer. They couldn't help me or remember the sale so they were no help. Copies was exactly what I was after. This is the purpose of this video. To find the person who owned this prior to the year 2000. Or the person that owns the picture I showed in the video or any one else that is a real expert , not an alcohol induced expert, like I've had to put up with . Thank you for your response. David
Fascinating!!! I’ve probably watch all of Jesse James movies. He’s the luckiest man on earth. I wouldn’t sell that gun for nothing. One thing I never knew was the caliber.
David, a remarkable journey and a well told story of your journey. You hold a key piece of the history of the American West. Enjoyed this engaging video. Maureen
Man, it was in Western OK? My father's side of the family is from there, specifically Colony and Corn Oklahoma. Damn. Schofields are cool for sure, especially when owned by J.James and worn when he died. However, those Merwin and Hulberts are the BEST of the era in my opinion.
@@briggie27 That's stupid because they said they can use DNA from a dinosaur flesh to try and clone another. They just don't want to do the DNA test on the grips because they are lazy and don't want to search up old cowboys
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
New sub thank you for sharing what a dream pistol not for how much you can get for it just to know the man who the world is talking about.I have never ever herd of found.I will be looking thanks.I hope when you sell it you give some to his grandson WOW I had no idea she died penniless my Lord and had to sell his dog WOW how awful the world isn't kind at all I am sure you will straighten out history so when his grandson tells his story he has you to pass the real kindness of how we have evolved as people.
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
Happy to see all of Jesse James family in the comments. What number is still available? I didn’t see 12th cousin. I’ll take that. I’m Jesse James 12th cousin!
There's some interesting and compelling things about this pistol...based on what I see in this video. I would love to see the questioned settled definitively. I hope it is proven to be Jesse's, but whatever the truth may be, let it be revealed. While, if it were his and present at his death, it's possible that his wife grabbed it with bloody hands, that is just a theory at this point...and that's using a theory to support an unproven conclusion. I would focus (first priority) on getting the blood tested by someone equipped to do so on older blood, THEN we can figure out how his blood got there...if it's his. As for the video, overall, I enjoyed it, although I am one of those who can only afford reproductions of the guns of the day. The sport of Cowboy Action shooting isn't unlike my old hobby of reenacting mounted Confederate Cavalry. In reenacting, there exists subsets and cliques, rife with snobbery and disdain for those they deem less authentically equipped and less historically correct.....though those snobs ride to these events in gasoline automobiles, benefit from and/or carry on their persons modern medical marvels that are certainly inauthentic. The point is, we don't live in the 19th Century. We aren't 19th Century people. Your 120 year old guns don't look like they did 120 years ago when So & So used them in the day. Now they look like antiques. The ones they used looked more like today's new reproductions in their day, so from a point of appearances, using well worn originals looks inauthentic. There's nothing wrong with preferring originals, but there's also nothing wrong with reproductions. There are a LOT of good folks who love the history and the guns who can only afford to get their little piece of it with reproductions. Those are my people...God bless them. Best of luck to you, sir, in the quest for authentication of that pistol.
plowboysghost his blood got there by his wife.. She ran and grabbed his pistol and Ford was already out the door before she could shoot him...Then went to Jesse and got the blood on her hands and then on the pistol grips
David, I am researching Jesse James for my Year 12 Research Project. So far I am struggling to find sources and get interviews as it is part of the requirements. I can’t seem to find any of Jesse’s descendants and I was hoping I could get in contact with you and discuss anything you know. It would be much appreciated. Thanks, Aaron
Do you know the story about Cole Younger's pistol. If it is the same pistol, he got shot during a bank robbery with Jesse and he dropped the gun in the street. After the shooting died down, the local druggist ran out there and got it.
I'm jessie James's 4th cousin. At least I wouldve been. We have his birth certificate and several pictures and documents of him. My great grandfather was his great grandson. We had one of his revolvers. But a fire destroyed our house and everything with it. All we have now is a few documents and pictures of him as a child and one of the original wanted sheets with his picture. I'm proud to see u have one of his guns. If only my great grandfather told us the location of his treasure. I'd be happy to give it away.
I would like to see your proof of these claims. If youre his great grand sons great grandson: a. That would not make you his fourth cousin but a direct decendant. B. That is too many generations that dont exist
Yeah right my man Jesse ain’t have to girl with the name Chesser, I myself rode with billy after his fled to New Mexico from Arizona and the regulators after awhile
If your great grandfather was his great grandson rhat would make him your great great great great grandfather or more. That doss not add up with when jesse james was born. Sorry. Your family lied to you or you have it wrong.
On my mothers side her grandfather which is my great grandfather his mother was directly related to him. Btw frank and him both were part of the golden ccircle. We have the patch and pendent from his belongings.
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct..... I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
The house in st joe is the house he was killed at the house he was raised in is in Kearney Missouri along with grave next to his mother Zelda and cousin Archie his brother frank is buried in independence Missouri inna tiny cemetery
My Dad had a Merwin and Hubert 3rd model Frontier in 44-40 back In the 60's. I like it because of how it was manufactured it is a very cool revolver but all that machining is probably what put um out of business. Could the blood have come from one of the wounded gang members after the Northfield Minnesota raid.
As to the Merwin & Hulberts. Since I own 3 and shoot all of them. They probably went out of business for poor sales. You have to understand that all cartridges back then were loaded with black powder. Black powder is a very dirty burning powder. These Merwins $Hulberts were built like a fine tuned watch. Very little tolerance when clean. I shoot my own reloads using much cleaner smokeless powder and in as many as 30 shots fired these guns start having problems rotating the cylinder because they are dirty and need to be cleaned. I can not imagine how fast using black powder will gum them up and case the not to function correctly. We haven't even gotten into blowing dirt that the frontier had plenty of. And as to the statement about the blood coming from the North Field raid I'm going to say no. This raid happened in 1876 and the Schofield was invented in 1875 with almost all of them going to the US Army. I don't think Jesse or his gang could have gotten their hands on any of them until 1878 when the Army sold them off as surplus.
Thats great. I'm shur he had many guns in the coarse of his short lifetime. He made his living with them. And you have to understand this. In 1882 the Smith and Wesson Schofield was the Glock of today.
Hi; Would you happen to have his contact info. Or know him well enough to pass on my phone number to him. This is the reason I posted this video. I 'm trying to gather information from people like you or the actual owners of Jesse James weapons . I'd like to compare notes and stories. Thanks for you reply. David 405 816-1340
@@davidbaumann8683 Mr Ford has passed away. I got involved with researching a Colt SAA ivory gripped nickel plated gun owned by a Mr. William Mitchell. Mr. Mitchell was a close friend of Mr. Ford and business associate. In Mr. Mitchell's collection he owned Jesse James' “Muscle Shoals“ gun. Also a SSA Colt nickel plated ivory gripped. This gun was authenticated by R. L. Wilson and Greg Martin as the gun that was taken by the James brothers when they robbed a government paymaster down in Alabama. During my research I found another Muscle Shoals gun on display in a museum in Kentucky? Mr. Wilson published the photo of the gun display that Jesse James Jr had loaned to the Worlds Fair of his dad's guns in one of his books with info on Mr. Mitchell's gun. Each gun in the display had a card that identified the gun. Info was illegible on image. I got the original image from Library of Congress. I now could see clear information on each weapon, boots, holster rig, and bridle. Mr Mitchell's gun was tag as belonging to Cole Younger taken from him in Medlia Minn after the Northfield raid. Anyway I received from Mr. Mitchell copies of communications and history of what happened to the James guns once they were returned to the widow James. The guns were loaned to a Dr. Lowery in Missouri that was the James family doctor by Jesse Jr. in lieu of payment for some medical service to Mr. James. Dr. Lowery sold them to Senator Hawes of Missouri to resolve a debt he owed for unpaid rent. The James family tried to recover the guns from Senator Hawes with no response. Stella James Jesse Jr's daughter approached Henry Ford for assistance to recover the guns.Henry Ford was interested in purchasing the guns for his museum collection only. The guns passed on to a Senator Boykin and Mr. Mitchell got his Colt from Boykin's son. Finally the James Family Foundation claim they have the original guns.
