I tried it out, I think it's best for single instrument loops. It spit out some pretty dope Neo-soul piano loops for me. The last beat I uploaded to my shorts was made using it.
Its dope, but you have to be creative. Its def not gonna give you stuff thats already a completed work, which is good IMO. You have to "flip" them just like you would a traditional sample. Some of the demos arent great but the sounds in the packs once you download it can be flipped if you are creative. But for just raw material to help make beats with, some ideas, and some textures, its definitely a nice lil tool.
Until i watched this video of yours i didnt realize how old school you are lol all the joints you generated were not bad. Plus you know theres a difference between trap and hip hop trap
It’s pretty dope I’ve been using it for the past 3 months before they ever announced it, got some nice packs already but this beta version is better than the first beta one. You have to be really descriptive but simple if that make any sense when giving it prompts.
I just went to try this out and I will say this 1. I put in “70s soul sample, no drums, Somber” and put in what key I wanted it in..it gave some good results 2. I believe musicians prerecorded stuff and tagged it so we find what we find 3. The cool thing is when you download the “pack” it gives you a stemmed out version…a mix version, and also gives you a “sample pack” of a bunch of instrument loops/one shots .. which is cool… so you can isolate instruments or use the whole thing as it is… Long story short.. would i use this? I will probably make a few beats with this today… then after that, once in a while I may pop in and see what it generates, if I get in beat block.. which I don’t get that much.. but I think to breed inspiration, it’s a good tool
If a creator is using this to make samples to flip or chop then it makes sense to me. When the human brain has to figure out and learn we naturally, evolve, and become better at what it is we're trying to achieve. personally, I have no desire to want to use this. There's joy and motivation when you naturally become better due to adversity. Just my opinion, make your own packs from the soul, there's nothing better. But if you must use this be creative, don't just enter a prompt, get the results, and package it. That is so lazy.
I had the same results as you, I was trying to get some slow blues jazz with drums and got some 1980's easy listening elevator music. I think you're right about having a pool of pre-set samples they pick from. When you download the pack, there's a folder of samples and another of stems. The samples are much longer versions of each instrument that's used to play the demo. I was able to get a few decent results with it, but a lot of the results sounded very similar. It's a really neat idea though. I would be really curious to hear the results if you could use that algorithm on your own custom sample library.
My prompts have created some crazy dope stuff that can be used for some different type of beats. Prompting is where it’s at with a 1000 character limit. I just wonder what the price will eventually be
That 4th pack you clicked on was kind of nice. All of those afrobeat packs sound more like the authentic kind that they listen to mostly in Africa instead of the mainstream kind that's so popular worldwide.
It’s probably all similar because this is trained on a relatively small set of (probably commercial?) soundpacks. It might even be an open set of sounds. Generative AI quality is all about how much data and how good the data they are trained on. Which is how OpenAI took over (among other things)
I had to keep it very simple like "funky fretless bass" or otherwise the results were just horrible. Atm it's not capable of producing interesting full samples IMO. But you might get lucky if you keep it to stems or specific instrument parts.
This type of system needs a Spotify type of training algorithm that learns YOUR sound. That would revolution music production. The good thing about that is it would be so expensive that it won’t be locked away for only a few big producers or labels it’d have to be a major corporation with big funding with a wide set of customers so we’ll hear about it unlike say Autotune which they tried to hide for a couple yrs
I made my last beat using co producer, then chopped the melody a lil bit and rearranged it. Then put in a counter melody. I think it's dope but i gotta make my own melodys too or it feels wrong lol
B-O-L-O, What's GOOD.....I curious about the STEMS in action I STILL use My MPC 2500 but I'm Looking to Grab a MPC ONE or LIVE......😎😎😎.....GREAT VID, SUBBED !!!!!!
I queried the input to generate packs with beats that sounded like Kraftwerk's "Numbers". It sounded worse than "cheap" 80s hiphop. So it confirmed to me for sure my suspicions I had already about AI: that it is NOT going to replace humans any time soon. So much skepticism by the user is always in order. Therefore, I'm going to continue to perfect my craft as a composer. Thanks so much for rendering this highly relevant content!
We live in a crazy world of AI driving the scean for so many... it really is a case of, if I can do myself or with somebody else i will.. What file types does it spit out?
I actually tried that and I used Chat GPT for prompts so I copied and pasted my prompts but the Ai wouldn’t give me the sound I was looking for 🤦♂️ I even tried getting similar 50 Cent sounds came out with nothing sounded pretty messed up 😂
The only thing that I heard that was half way decent was the piano parts. I use a lot of orchestration in my tracks so with a deep baseline and stings the piano parts might sound good
I think all this does is randomize the kits that are already in Arcade. Plus you have to input the BPM and key in your prompts to get the best results or you’ll just get loops thrown together that don’t have the same BPM and key. The prompts work just like the search filters in Arcade. Seems to me that Output is attempting to assist producers who struggle with Arcade as from what I see, most don’t use the filters when they’re cooking. That takes more time to find sample loops that could fit your project. And definitely nobody I see on RU-vid ever attempts to edit the loops in Arcade either. People just want to throw together loops real quick and easy and when that’s not working, they abandon Arcade pretty quick. So, I think this is Output’s attempt to recoup some of those that abandoned Arcade previously. I could be wrong about all of this though, but one thing I do know is I still think using the search filters on Arcade is better than using Co-Producer.
Generation Alpha, will be the generation that does away with traditional production as we know it. Prompt Production and AI chord/drum generators will be the new way beats will be made.
non of my prompts gave me good results to be honest. it's still much better to use splice, all it does is improve search engine and combine different samples, but it's nowhere near real AI making shit up on the go like the one google is testing now. I think stem separation is still by far the best AI tool for music that you can use for real
In case no one can tell, this is NOT A.I. at all. Thus is nothing more than a bloated search engine that takes you to a catalog of pre-made AudioJungle type tracks. That's it. You may download the stems and convert them to midi for your own instruments and stuff buy definitely NOT an AI under the hood thinking and choosing anything.
Yooooo I thought the same thing, I just didn't know for sure lol I also couldn't find anything explaining the engine or type of AI model and what it was trained on lol
Yo bolo,maybe they should call it a melody generator,because it dose not know what afro beat sounds like 😂im gonna use as a melody generator by sound of this video😂im going to just type in some random shit and what it comes up with😂peace bro
My (completely uneducated) guess is that without the words "hip hop" in the prompt, the AI took "trap drums" to mean a trap drum KIT... in the rock/acoustic sense.
@@el-bov8034 The (acoustic) drum kit that you're probably familiar with (with a kick drum and a hi-hat connected to foot pedals) is technically (and originally) called a Trap Drum Kit or Trap Drums. (Where 'trap' is short for "conTRAPtion".) Previous to trap drums, a 'kick drum' was played by LITERALLY +kicking+ the drum with your foot.
@@BoloDaProducer i actually got some of the same pack sounds as @bolodaproducer and @busyworkbeats using different prompts. I tried the prompts on the Output YT video and did not get anything clear sounding like their examples. Its a hit or miss based on keywords you trying to guess at. The piano loops are cool, but its giving us all the same loops right now in beta.
The idea is great but I got unusable results about 95% of the time. I tried 90s R&B and it spit out a country sounding beat. I tried other genres too and not one thing was useable in my opinion. I appreciate your review being honest and not just hyping up the new thing for likes or views.
I used it and it most definitely did NOT provide what I was asking for at all. It did however give me some stuff that I can work with that inspired me to produce. Not drums though. It's horrible at that lol!!!!!!😂😂😂😂
Wouldn't use this ever... prompts and all... you guys are all going to be using the same shyte everyone else is going to get result wise. Just terrible... this program should be call brain drain or creativity killer. Creates complete garbage packs in seconds
It's crap and it has a long way to go before it's any usable. If it was any good Output would be charging the shit out of it. It's got that same metallic-sounding quality of Riffusion which is still in development. Splice's new AI feature does a way better job than this.
I found your dwelling on the time boring and repetitive. You are deliberate and negative. The time it takes to generate packs depend on the amount of people prompting. You should make that obvious and clear to viewers and also stop dismissing the good stuff generated. You did a poor negative unfair review. You are just learning not a pro user. Maybe it’s not for you. If you are going to do reviews of this type in the future I will unsubscribe.
