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Imagine being that guy that Korra keeps calling "dad". Like, you have no idea what she's talking about, but if the Avatar thinks you're her dad, you're far more likely to survive the encounter. Might as well not correct her.
@@willtheprodigy3819 I haven't heard anyone say that, but why I (used to) enjoy this show is just because it's entertaining on a surface level. I never expected it to hold a candle to ATLA, but I also kind of expect it now to at least be competently written, and a lot of times that's thrown into question. If anyone genuinely does like Korra over ATLA then it's just because they like surface-level entertainment over a show as deep and nuanced as the original. Which isn't bad in and of itself, people are allowed to have their opinions, it's just a shallow opinion imo.
I feel like I need to take a shower after hearing that, ugh. Even if you do like Korra, she is far from a "sweetie," if this were a normal situation I could easily see her getting really pissed at that petname. Like I never call my partner anything like that at all, it just sounds wrong.
@@RacingSnails64 I think if Mako called Korra "babe" then it would be fully justified for Korra to enter the avatar state and annihilate the entire zip code.
Bumi grew up as a kid who was probably told multiple times about his immediate family who had the craziest adventure in history. He always had the sense for adventure but had no bending to do it with. Instead he joined the military. And from the sound of it, he got to scratch the itch. I always liked the theory that whenever Aang was on a vacation with Tenzin that Bumi hung with Sokka. I guess I empathize with the perfectly normal guy in a world full of magic finding his way and spreading the joy for life he has
I always wished we got an adventure with Tenzin, Bumi, Kya and Lin to pay homage to the original 4, maybe throw in Izumi just to have the Zuko character, but it would have been neat to see how their experience with their respective mentor played out when they're trained by masters their whole lives VS the original Team Avatar who had to be basically self taught and became Masters themselves
@JackedUpEntertainment You know, I just realized this is the episode I always needed but never knew I want. That would give so much character to all of them!
"Are you animated in a third way?" Yeah, she was. I knew someone on this season's production and even with the studio shifts, they also sub-contracted out without many people knowing.
My biggest gripe with this season is that Korra just accepts the “there is only one water tribe” bs when they are, and always have been, two separate tribes. Like how are they one tribe when during the 100 years war, they provided no aid to the south and let them lose all of their benders?
When the Hell was a "united Water Tribes" even a thing? They live as far away as physically possible and the portals where sealed shut before humans could even live there
Sokka and Katara, and the South as a whole, were called members of the "sister tribe" a few times in ATLA while they were in the North, so there appears to have been some level of deeper connection at some point, but the customs have always been distinct, from what we can gather from other episodes.
@maskofthedragon I would say it's more so just a political idea to create one singular water bending nation. Both tribes have always been separate from each other geographically, politically, and culturally. But since they are both water benders with somewhat similar cultures, some would believe that the two Water Tribes should merge.
Kataras and aangs sweetie is cringe but they are younger and it took them ages to confess their feelings to each other so i can forgive it to them but not to this love triangle bs in korra
one of the most frustrating things in this season was the amount of shit Tonraq gets from his own daughter. It feels so forced and unexplained why she hates him so much, then she realizes Unaloq is evil and suddenly her dad is the best person on the planet again. They don't feel like a father and daughter at all, Tonraq just feels like a side character that Korra is beefing with. At least their relationship is great in season 3, they actually feel like family that love each other deeply, ESPECIALLY in the later episodes.
It’s honestly not forced. Parents aren’t entitled to love. There’s a big difference between Hakoda and Ozai and it’s that Hakoda takes time to understand his children.
@@pn2294 WTF are you talking about? You know children don't just naturally hate or love their parents right? You know that those types of relationships are formed over years, and because of that, allows for more nuance and substance. Korra being mad at her dad is fine *_if_* they give a very good, non debatable reason Korra's dad was a bad parent, or made a bad decision. They didn't really show us a good reason Korra was so mad at her dad at all times.
14:03 "You're still trying to prove you can do everything a bender can, well you can't. Deal with it." I never liked how they made Bumi a joke character. How cool it would have been if he was allowed to just dive into the pool, and show that he too was still Aang's son to these two master benders. It would make his antics less annoying if they just stopped always playing him for laughs.
They later show that his insane stories are the result of blind luck and coincidence. Imagine how cool it would have been for genuine guile and cunning to come out instead.
The comic relief characters imo are the weakest and most disappointing aspect of Korra. ATLA had so much great humor, and humorous characters to deliver it who weren't just the buttmonkeys of whatever lame joke the writers came up with. Sokka was so much more than just the comic relief, he was the brains and the brawn (and the stomach) of the gaang. He's a difficult and nuanced character, and you only laugh at him because he does a lot more than just tell lame jokes and talk about food. Bolin is nothing but dumb jokes. Everything he does is a punchline, to the point where his character is nothing but a joke. Bumi is the same way, you don't get the feeling he's learned anything from his adventures (or even if he's making it all up, that he's some compulsively lying charlatan figure, or even that he's desperate for attention). There's no depth to the characters beyond the one-handful of jokes each one is allowed to tell. I can deal with Korra herself being a wishy-washy immature child (sometimes anyway), I can deal with the show really throwing into question a lot of the established lore in Avatar Wan's story (which I actually liked just at a surface level), and I can even deal with the show of basically permanently killing off all the other Avatars in the past cycles after the previous message of Season 1 establishing Korra has support and guidance (but I guess haha fuck you Aang's fucking gone now). What I can't deal with as easily is just how lame and uninteresting the supporting cast has been, and I really wish these characters got some serious editing passes.
4:45 Hamma is such a better developed situation for creepyness. cause we also get to see the characters notice the weirdness as time goes on. They dont get to make any dumb decisions that we wouldnt make.
I saw some ppl say katara was slow for not realizing Hama was the one capturing ppl during the full moons sooner but rlly she figured it out as soon as logically possible. (once she explained bloodbending, and how she wanted katara to use it) Yeah the audience almost certainly figured out when Hama said “I have a special technique that can only be done during the full moon” that she was responsible, but before that point, the characters rlly had no way of knowing
0:18 Ski instructor here, no. There is not enough water. Context: snow has a *ton* of air in it, even when it is compacted. It's nothing like ice in terms of density. You'd need like, 5-10x the snowpack for a given chunk of ice.
maybe in real life that would be true, but in a show where people can magically manipulate the elements, they could have just as easily added the moisture from the air as weve seen in ATLA. also its fucking magic, who tf cares honestly.
What if the ice blocks were hollow, though? Then only a fraction of the water would be needed to create them. Of course, the walls would still have to be somewhat thick in order to push people around, but there's no way you'd need to fill the entire internal space of the blocks to accomplish that.
@@patrickmonahan5272 If I made a two inch thick layer of ice, I could probably push you over with it. Especially if I'm able to push on the entire surface at once in a perfectly equal manner, as a water bender can. I could probably make do with one inch.
to be completely fair in the kidnapping fight, they were all waterbenders so most of the normal restraining options weren't really an option. At best she could have earthbent them restraints but from every indication I got, the entire building was made of ice so that also wasn't really an option. Given that she mostly used air and what was lying around, I actually think that was pretty good attention to detail all things considered.
4:24 Gotta love how Korra's only training in "Unalaq Spirit Fighting™" is completely off screen Y'know so they don't have to explain it in anyway or have her bond with Unalaq that isn't just him stroking her ego
Right? I think it would have been good to see Unalaq train Korra, perhaps see his training method, maybe Korra gets the hang of it straight away and have fun with it, reinforcing her "Man, Unalaq is so much better than Tenzin" thoughts. This also means it would have made more sense for Korra to trust Unalaq so much.
I mean, we never saw the training for healing either. Nor did we see training for lightning or blood really. To me it seems that some bending types are easier to learn than others and that's not a plothole
@@lemon1797actually we saw the training for all three of those in atla, specifically Lightning in bitter work who explained and trained zuko(which he later succeed in redirecting it), bloodbending in the puppet master by hama and healing was well explained in the first few seasons of on the north pole. Granted these things weren't to in detail but that's because there simple concepts that can make sense in universe, the rules and ways are well established previously that the viewer can draw the conclusion for example why can a water bender blood bend? Simple there are liquid properties within blood, healing? Water has soothing properties. Lightening bending is the most far fetched but it is also the one most well explained nearly a whole episode dedicated to it. The thing with Korras training is two things 1 people want to see the relationship between korra and the guy 2 This type of spirt bending thingy is SO new and SO far fetched that it HAS to be explained, it more magic then bending and a lack of explanation leads the viewer feeling out of place, left out and honestly clueless. Leaving out such an important part of the season and not explaining it is a plot hole. Plus no rules are established for Spirit fighting bending (magic ? )™ previously.
@@lemon1797 Healing had the punchline of being so easy it was taught to little girls In Bitter Work we see Iroh go in detail about how Lightning works and Zuko never being able to it shows how hard it is We are shown how over months/years Hama was able to homebrew Bloodbending to escape a cell How about you watch Avatar: The Last Airbender, before leaving a comment, it's pretty good
@@maskofthedragon bro you're proving my point. Some bending forms are harder and some are easier. Maybe learn to read before you respond, it's pretty fun
I think the thing that really blows my mind about how stupid korra is with the whole civil war thing is how she's standing their, talking to the aggressor of the war, who is telling her to stay neutral, and she doesn't even call him out. Like, you're trying to be impartial, while taking advice from the least impartial person on the subject. Maybe rub a braincell or two and figure something out for yourself for once.
You can't even excuse it with them being family, since Korra has been seething about her dad in these last few episodes Is the audience supposed to believe she is closer to this uncle she barely knows or that treating her homeland like trash is less of a betrayal than making sure she was safe?
"Hey, uncle. The South thinks you're an occupying army and wants you to leave them alone." "Wha-buh-I'm not! I'm totally not an occupying army." "Right. Well, that's not really your call to make. They think you are. It's their land, their civilization, and their freedom. Piss off if you don't want war."
“I don’t know anyone whose like I love bumi” hey I’m here. I absolutely love bumi so much. He’s just a silly guy trying to find his path and purpose in his family and his goofiness is part of that, he feels like he’s trying to lighten the tone even tough he probably shouldn’t.
Glad to hear from ya! I think he has good moments, and also perhaps the funniest line of the entire show in Book 3. Someone says something along the lines of getting kidnapped in a sack, and he just chimes in with "that's how they got me to join the United Forces!"
I like Bumi too! And yeah, he may have embellished a little, he may have added in an extra typhoon or two for dramatic effect, but I believe most if not all of his crazy stories are true to a point after he took down that camp at the south pole with his trusty flute.
Me, too! He's my favorite, but I totally get why others find him annoying. I figure that a lot of his wackiness is him playing the dual roles of aggravating big brother and fun uncle.
And it's clear that his need to exaggerate and lie about his own exploits doubles as a way to measure up to the demi-godlike beings he spent so much time around
It's odd to me that Kya's upset that Tenzin and Bumi didn't put their lives on hold after their dad died like she did, when she has the least amount of responsibility out of the three of them. Bumi was an admiral for the united forces so of course he couldn't just step away and Tenzin was left in charge of running the air accolades in Republic City so he couldn't walk away from that either. What was she doing? We don't know.
Pretty sure she was a hippy or something like that. It was explained in the comics a bit. Granted I don't remember much about her in the Korra comics aside from her telling Korra Aang was super supportive of her being gay.
Yea wasn't she just going on adventures and stuff? I feel like its kinda deserved to go back to her mom and help her with stuff with how Bassically carefree she was.
Especially Tenzin, it seems overlooked by everyone just how much pressure Tenzin is under considering he's been brought up from birth with the responsibility of restoring an entire nation, one that he has born alone for the past 16 or so years as the only living airbending master. It shouldn't be a mystery to anyone why he acts the way he does.
This episode is a good example of my feelings towards Korra as a whole. There are so many singular elements that hit with just the right power, get that real flavor, show the creative spark that made AtlA great, but they are caught up in a show that just can't handle it. If all you want is for it to have good stuff then it's a fine show, but it lacks that complex whole that made AtlA great.
@@joshuajones4097A lot of retcons. Retcons that the dragons are the orginal firebenders, the ocean and the moon are the original water benders, moles, sky bisons etc. It retcons spirits and their behaviours, the evil spirit mumbo jumbo is just awful. It retcons the Avatar cycle with Raava and Vaatu bullshit. It retcons Oma and Shu being the first earthbenders and a bunch of other stuff. Granted these are all season 2 stuff and it's by far the weakest and the worst season of Korra. I personally enjoy season 3 of Korra as much as I enjoyed ATLA. But season 2 sure changes a lot of things for the worse for the Avatar Universe. I think they should just admit their defeat and make season 2 of korra non cannon.
Here's where I stand on the Aang Bad Dad debate: Does this add to the complexity and multifacet part of his character? Absolutely, I think it's a great way of showing the unique challenges of a character up to adulthood and ESPECIALLY the challenges with having kids. My issues with it are twofold: 1. We don't actually get to see Aang's relationship with his kids. Like, we don't get a flashback seeing Aang spending time with each of them. So any talk and rationalization on both ends is nothing more than fan speculation. It's Shrodinger's Bad Dad. Aang could've been a no good deadbeat dad, or he could've been a wonderful father in ingrates as kids. The problem is that we don't know one way or the other, and for your main character that's a serious issue. 2. This is a case where you really see the invisible hand of the writer becomes visible. It's important to remember that "realism" isn't a factor in anything that happens in fiction. Everything is a choice made by the writers, and in this instance you need to ask: Why did they make these 50+ year old adults have issues with their dad? To establish conflict and line up with the themes of a broken house. The problem is, this creative choice leads to SO many issues where the audience now has nothing but questions regarding the characters and how they're portrayed from here on out. This singular choice made Aang be perceived as a terrible father, and now he's stuck with that legacy a majority of the fandom. On the whole, I think Aang not being a perfect dad is fine, but the show didn't give us enough to really see things from any other point of view than his jaded middle aged children. Which really sucks from a character standpoint on Aang.
All of you ignore one crucial fact: Aang was the last of his nation. He had to teach Tenzin a whole culture and if he couldnt do it, his nation would had go extinct forever. You guys ignore that.
@@athanasioskosmas3915 And you seemingly ignored everything I just posted, but tl;dr: The writers *chose* to add this. they didn't have to but they did. They didn't bother explaining the hows and whys, so now everyone is left ot just guess like what you're doing. So it's a bad writing choice.
@@blackfox4138 they didnt explain the hows and whys because here is obvious. A bit of common sense is enough to understand why Aang did this. Its not that hard
About the incapacitation of "dad" and his goons. It makes total sense that she uses tapestry and rope, there are only two elements good at locking down and that is Earth and Water, and those guys are water benders, and assuming water nation architecture is mainly ice and carpets, there would be a severe lack of earth in them. So with the two good crowd control option out, the third option is the best one left.
I think I have a good idea of why Bumi is the way he is. In the video, you established that Tenzin got focused in on by Aang because he was the only Airbender and Aang was also too busy for the other two. I'd bet a similar thing might have happened with Kya, to a lesser extent. Katara likely preferred Kya since she was a Waterbender, and a lot of their time would probably be spent practicing bending. That leaves Bumi, focused on by neither parent and unable to bend, so he starts to become extravagant and boisterous to get attention, and this attention grabbing personality carried on into his adult life, which is why he's the way he is as a grown man. It could almost be argued Bumi's plight is similar to Tai Li(I don't actually know how to spell her name) in ATLA, though slightly different. Tai Li had to stand out because she looked the same as her siblings, whereas Bumi has to stand out because he's different than his siblings. Also you said you've never met a Bumi fan, but you have now(if you read this). I am a Bumi fan, mostly before he gets Airbending but I like him afterwards too, to a lesser extent.
It may not be perfect, but I do like the civil war concept and the execution often hits quite well. Would be a shame if the show suddenly did a 180 and made it about the literal incantation of evil with a kaiju fight as it's climax
Korra is so reactive, she doesn't like, *do* anything of her own volition. She sees something happening and then responds to it and that's how the entire season goes. She talks about wanting to be the Avatar but never does avatar stuff until its already too late almost and its really frustrating imo
It really feels like writers couldn’t write women well, and could only write her as reactive to the men around her. Like, basically every influence on her decisions is an external man
@@JS-tl7jp I don't understand why though. Just write her like a man but add she/her pronouns instead if you have to, there aren't THAT many differences between men and women to where you just can't write one
@@JS-tl7jp I'm inclined to disagree because everyone's characterization in this show is weak and poorly planned. I don't doubt that sexism could be a factor, but really the only people who seem to have agency are the antagonists a majority of the time. It's just kind of frustrating how much missed potential everyone has in this show.
@@BetaDude40 Also, Katara and Toph in the previous show were written pretty well. Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee also all had decent take charge depictions (can you imagine anyone but Ozai trying to command Mai or Azula? Yeah it never went well). Korra always had issues with writing the characters on a personal level sadly, it had tons of potential sadly too.
@@channellastname3527Oh yeah, the trouble is not that it's *hard* to write women, but I've seen very often that men often struggle to empathize with women as they would with men. Y'know this, 'women have their own special language' nonsense, or the 'men are from mars, women are from venus' shit that paints it as some deep significant divide between different species. it's hard to explain exactly but there seems to be an issue of men seeing women only from the perspective of a man, of an outside viewer, and so failing to grasp that women have the same interiority and complexity as men. When that perspective informs writing even unknowingly, men are actors in the story, they have agency to make decisions for complex reasons, while women are objects in the story who are acted upon and can only react, they don't have the same interior lives and drives.
Honestly I like the idea that boomy tries to prove he’s just as strong as a bender is interesting since as the avatars only child without bending powers he probably got teased for it as a kid and even as an adult by his siblings
16:42 "PotatoScream who has to duel a shadow version of himself on their birthday every year, winner gets to be the person for the year" This is so unhinged, but also perfectly encapsulates the dark vs light avatar thing at the season 2 finale 😂
If I'm being honest I think the idea of Aang being a "bad father" is blown wayyy out of proportion... To me the way they talked about it made them seem petty. It gave me strong "I never got my turn on the Switch" vibes. I would not be surprised if they exaggerated Aang's neglect a lot more to fit their point of view, like how my little sister will throw a fit whenever my dad has to do work instead of playing with her. Not to mention the fact that Aang was an _Air Nomad._ They didn't really _have_ traditional families, since all the males and females were split across the different temples. The closest Aang had to a father was Monk Gyatso.
There's also the issue that Tenzin's years younger than his siblings--Kya's at least four or five years older and Bumi's got to have a decade on him. Tenzin would still have been a young child when his siblings were grown.
I don't want to invalidate Kya and Bumi's feelings, but I do think the whole conflict was about perspective. I do think they're remembering the negative experiences over the positive ones. I mean they literally find a family photo of them all together at once. I always took that as a sign that Aang was around more often than they think.
@@RacingSnails64 Given they're older, it's entirely possible that Aang was actually settling down a bit by the time Tenzin was growing up, but by then the older two were already grown.
@@RacingSnails64 yeah idk how people fail to factor in biases and distortion of memories for the debate on how aang was as a father, Kya and Bumi are clearly kinda petty but they dont hate Aang to death, they just feel a little left out which is a normal mistake parents do, specially with how unique Aang's case is i find it completely normal
7:30 - I don't mind Aang prioritizing Tenzin, but not taking all of his kids on field trips is OOC at all ages. The first thing Aang wanted to do with Sokka and Katara, people he just met, was go on fun field trips together. But then as an adult he doesn't give a shit about bringing his own children? Why? Even if they can't airbend, there is an entire group of people who can't but still found value in Air Nomad culture. Aang would absolutely want to share it with them. What did they do before Tenzin was born/old enough? The whole tone of the conversation is also just weird. Biologically Aang died very young, in his 40s. His kids are now in their 50s, still crying about how Tenzin was the favorite. And how the hell does Tenzin remember the trips but not that his siblings weren't there? Is he fabricating false memories or some shit? Did they go on SOME trips that he's conflating?
It was mentioned by Kya that Aang DID try to show them air bender culture, and Bumi at least really didn’t like it. Kya also was probably needing to learn waterbending, and the whole air nomad rebuilding thing was more like a work trip than a vacation. Idk it feels kinda realistic tbh
See, I think it kind of makes perfect sense that Aang wouldn't bring them EVERYWHERE he needed to take Tenzin. At the end of the day, Tenzin had a very specific responsibility that no one else in the world could fulfil, not even his siblings. I very much doubt Aang even wanted to force that much on Tenzin let alone his other kids as well. If he saw it as a duty, a responsibility to his culture, I doubt he would have treated it as a simple field trip. I'm sure he shared a lot with his kids, especially since they seemed familiar enough with the temples and lifestyle. That said, they aren't airbenders. Bringing them along while teaching Tenzin everything he needed to learn before Aang died not only seems a bit cruel since he definitely wouldn't have been able to pay them any attention, but also just a time consuming ordeal. Plus, there are just some places they probably wouldn't have been able to reach. Just like Boomie going down the waterfall. He could have been in actual danger in some of those places. TL;DR, I don't think it was as simple as saying they didn't get to go on cool trips.
I think it was feasibly exaggerated a bit maybe since they were kids at the time, it's still odd Tenzin didn't remember, I think that Tenzin got the most attention is reasonable, Aang needed to teach him airbending and that takes years to master, he's the Avatar too so I think it makes sense that rather than halt Tenzin's training he brought him with him
I know Unalaq is clearly presented as a villain and it can be jarring how Korra doesn't see that but I will say I do like the small details during the scene where Korra is talking to him in what I'm assuming is the throne room. Korra's standing in front of light coming from outside the room which is partially shining on Unalaq who is still mostly shrouded in darkness. It's kind of like a visual metaphor for how Korra sees him as a mentor when he's obviously just manipulating her and the Avatar (the light that protects the world) is faced with someone who will become the embodiment of darkness. Yeah, I know the writing is still messy but hey years of watching Overanalyzing Avatar helps me to appreciate small touches like this in animated shows.
@@willtheprodigy3819 Yup, the first Overanalyzing Avatar video was posted three years ago at the time of writing this. Also yeah, it's crazy to think about because it only feels like this channel's been around for one year or so.
I think artist touches like that are only worth noting when the writing is already compelling enough to warrant a visual representation of its themes. Without the good writing, these emphasized visuals just feel pretentious. “Korra is light so she is good and Tarloc is dark so he is bad.” Yes Korra. You really are more dark and mature than ATLA. Now let’s get you back in bed
I don't know why so many people's take away from the Tenzin/Siblings stuff in this episode is that "Aang was a terrible father." My first viewing of it, the impression I got was that ALL of the siblings had slightly warped perceptions of their dad. Tenzin didn't remember Aang being neglectful of the others, and Kya & Bumi exaggerated his neglectfulness in their minds. It's obvious Tenzin's memories aren't exactly accurate, so why does everyone assume Kya & Bumi's are 100% accurate? Aside from that, it's also clear that Kya & Bumi didn't think Aang was a horrible father, just that he didn't spend as much time with them as they wanted. I swear it's like any kind of nuance just goes over way too many peoples' heads.
I’ve just realized that your rant starting at about 11:45 would have legitimately fixed Korra’s arc here. It could have been delivered a little more softly by her mom, or by Mako in frustration, or idk by Asami if we feel like making her part of the story. We just needed a character to talk tough to Korra, to give a voice to what we were feeling at the moment. Even if she stayed stubborn and huffy (at least at first), and it took her a while to realize she was wrong, this exact bit of writing, word for word, could have been said to her face and I think a lot of season 2 would have benefitted from it.
Wasn't really going to mention this, but since you're threatening me, I guess I'll rant about something that bugs me. People that review or discuss Korra talk about the 10 000 years thing like it's an exact, specified amount of time. What a lot of people don't know is that 10 000 is used in east asian cultures to signify infinity, or at the very least a very large amount of something. When Wan Shi Tong calls himself 'He Who Knows Ten Thousand Things', it means that he has a vast amount of knowledge. The 10 000 years basically just means a very long time, so it could be far longer in canon
if we take 10000 years as exact then there is like 120 avatars but having it be 100000 years is so much time, too much imo. 10000 does feel a little short considering that szeto's time is like 600 years before Korra and that includes 7 avatars. But, thinking about society 10000 years ago vs 100000 years ago. Does change thing in my mind a little. It was the dawn of civilisation 10000 years ago. 100000 humans were still hunter gathers and multiple hominids still roamed the earth. It werid to think how much time has actually passed since homo sapiens evolved and how much was before writing.
Heck, before the comics, I actually thought that Hakoda was the Chief of the entirety of the Southern Water Tribe, since we were led to believe in the pilot that what we saw was literally all that was left.
Kaya says "We were never on those trips" so we can assume that Kaya and Bumi were consistently left out. Aang may not have been a terrible father, but he also shoulda known that 3 kids are WAY too much for an Avatar to deal with
My take on Aangs parenting and not taking his kids on field trips was that, he would naturally want to take Tenzin to the air temples, right? Teach him the culture, show him "the ways". Well, Aang being Aang, he almost certainly got sidetracked when he saw Kyoshi island or something and had that "monkey brain-neuron activation" moment and would be like, "well, since we're here"
it could also just be Tenzin having a bias on his memories cause he had a good time, Aang could have taken him to a serious training trip but Tenzin just had a good time and doesnt remember it as serious as it was
I think it would have been much better for koras character to recognize what unalok was doing and had an Guerilla fight against him but be alone as not to provoke a civil war instead of being dumb and taking orders from the aggressor
Hakoda feels like "The greater among equals" A chief who acts as the face and midiator of multiple other chiefs, and when needed make decisions on their behaf due to the impracticallity of a multi leader system especially when Time is limited, or a consensus cant be properly achieved.
You're right. This is exactly the kind of direct conflict Korra would love to fight. All her other conflicts keep somone else hostage. Amon was a symbol of the unrest between half the city. Zaheer challenges the survival of the air nationand by the time korra gets to Kuvira she has to heal and save her self and kuvira to grow. Just Knock Unolock of the throne he stole, put him back on the ship and tell him if he needs soemthing from the south, he has to negotiate in peace or he will be forced to leave.
I have a friend whose favorite character in all of Korra is boomi. To the point that all of his online screen names include a variant of that name. This has backfired in recent years as people just call him a boomer.
one thing i realized when talking to my little brother these days: aang not being a good father maybe is related to him not "familiarly" having the notion of family as "parent-parent-children", he was raised by monks. his experience of family is not exactly the same as the one considered _normal_, alongside being emotionally invested in training and passing on important aspects of being an air nomad to tenzin
Bro I'm so happy you continued this I've been loving the over analyzing series and I just finished she last one on the playlist then bam this cam out your timing is clutch bro
Idk, I always found Kya more annoying than Bumi, half of her lines in a show are said with this 'mocking' tone of voice whenever she argues with brothers over the smallest things. Idk, that was especially annoying when they were searching for Jinora and she instantly was like "Face it, you are not going to be helpful" and then proceeded to be even less helpful. I just wish she actually participated more, and wasn't there for just two fights with Zaheer. I can't honestly remember if she even was in Season 4
Ok. Personally I like Boomy. I find that he and Varric both crush the comic relief side of this show. Without them, it would be missing the goofy side of Avatar. I just wish Bo Lin had a better written character.
I think the reason Korra isn't keen to helping resolve the political conflict that thee water tribes are going through is because she was told and trained to be a fighter before any type of diplomatic figure. The line "I start fights, not dissolve them" juxtaposes her mindset for the first two seasons, whether for good or bad. It would then make sense for her to lean on her uncle to take care of those responsibilities for her, and she pays the price for it at the end of the episode with her parents being detained and arrested. I kind of see it as a parallel to Aang's mindset, where he wanted to be somewhat of a diplomatic peacekeeper rather than an outright brawler, as seen with his creation of republic city and taking out of yakkone, and even Ozai. To be fair, Aang's mindset is set up and resolved in a much more detailed manner than Korra's in her first two seasons, but at least in my opinion season 3 and 4 Korra learns this lesson and tries to act accordingly, which I really appreciate. It does make her earlier episodes a little annoying to watch, but her mindset of a spoiled child with an inflamed ego makes sense from her upbringing, and it's nice to see her perspective get flipped upside down by the red lotus and kuveria in the later seasons.
I think Korra is acting that way precisely because butt kicking has always been her default. She's trying to be a better avatar, trying to solve problems peacefully whenever possible, but it's easier to go from one extreme to another than it is to use moderation because to her, every problem still looks like it needs to be solved with butt kicking, so she cant tell that Unalaq actually does need his butt to get kicked.
Discovered this channel two weeks ago and I’m pretty sure I’ve watched every single video on this channel-can’t wait for new videos on live action and season 3 Korra!!
I don't think I can ever say this enough, but even if the episodes themselves weren't straight fire (which they are), I'd still always watch because of how funny the credits to the patrons are. Keep up the great content and the hard work man, another day another absolute heater.
A lot of things about korras story can be frustrating, but they are also realistic. For most of her life she was hidden from the world and trained to do something she had no control over. This explains why she never learns how to airbend as she never felt free enough to do it, now that she is free, she rebels against the things she thinks tie her down. The personal story was well done, but the actual world escalation story wasnt so good. However the kaiju battle was still entertaining
Aang is definitely not a bad father. Like you said he made mistakes. They had consequences. He just struggled to express love equally with all three kids, and on some level it makes a weird sort of sense because one of them was literally hope to bring back his people
We have to recognize the circumstances as well. You guys forget that he was the last airbender and he had to rebuilt the air nation. Thats enough to understand his actions.
I think the issues his kids have with him work with the fact that: 1. Aang never had an actual father. He had the monks, but not a father figure. Like said before, Gyatso was a great friend of his. He doesn't actually know firsthand how a close father-child relationship works, and all the nuances that it comes with. And 2. due to the previous point and due to the fact that, most of his life is spent traveling around the world solving issues and fighting bad guys. He doesn't have that kind of "lets go throw the baseball, Son" kind of tether to the world (probably doesn't help being an air nomad either lol). aaaand 3. From the lore-drops we've had (combined with theories I've seen on reddit lol) it's been suggested that Aang and Katara had children relatively young, so its very likely that their brains hadn't even finished developing yet. tldr, aang was a young inexperienced father, and also the literal avatar, not being the perfect father really works for his character, and i personally think it only adds to it.
Honestly, after Aang was gone Tenzin would have to teach the next avatar wind bending. He would have been the only airbender left. Aang was thinking of duty.. and that didn’t spell spending time with his children equally.
“I don’t know anyone who loves Bumi.” I love Bumi! He’s funny and useful and we get to see through his relationship with his family that at his center he has a big heart. He’s very much like Sokka in that he’s funny but a welcome presence in a fight because of his spirit. Something I really missed in the first season of Korra. That’s all I love Bumi.
13:28 Behold! A glaive! Actually, it could be a War Scythe if the cutting edge is on the inside of the curve, but cool nonetheless! (Yes, Glaives and War Scythes were a Medieval European thing, but odds are there were Asian equivalents.)
Yep. CHAN LIEN or ZHANLIAN is a scythe and KOU LIEN TAO or GOU LIAN DAO is a glaive. There's also Indian ones. But inuit and other tribes didn't really have them for obvious reasons
0:42 I like the idea that the Northern Water Tribe was so sexist and misogynist that all the feminists just up and left to get away from their socially conservative bullshit and didn’t stop until they reached the other end of the world. It’d be a hilarious backstory
for the aang’s a bad father debate I’d also like to add aang literally did not grow up with parents. the air nomads don’t have a mom and a dad. they’re a collective community where everyone helps everyone out instead of living with two parents. aang has no experience with what it’s like to have a direct parent so it’s not surprising that he wouldn’t know exactly how to be a direct parent himself. characters can have flaws it doesn’t make them terrible people it makes them realistic.
1:49 I'm not sure if Korra's Dad is actually the chief until the end of the season Especially since Unalaq is (supposed?) to be the chief of both tribes (for some reason)
I don't know, man. I've heard a number of explanations as to the Southern Tribe's government. We at least vaguely know that the North has some odd system of monarchy, but with the South, I've heard of it being a Stratocracy, (basically a government that is run by the military and possibly veterans, but traditionally or constitutionally instead of a junta,) an egalitarian Confederation, or even an Elective Monarchy. As for the whole Unalaq being the chief of both tribes thing, it was pretty clearly established in ATLA that the North and South had separate chiefs, though I'm not ruling out the possibility that such a thing could happen. What confuses me is the fact that the South, if TLOK is to be believed, has multiple chiefs. The only way that I can reconcile that is by assuming that there are multiple smaller communities within the Southern Tribe, each of whom has a chief to represent them, and they elect a 'High Chief', if you will, from among them. That, or there is no central executive leader, in which case, don't expect the newly independent tribe to last long...
I think the confusion comes from the difference between a chief and a cheiftain. The chief is basically the President, and there's only one of them (until there's two of them), but chieftains are like governors and there's a lot of them.
@@drivingbritt9617 What Unalaq did is the equivalent of Kim Jung Un claiming to be the ruler of all of Korea, despite the entire south disagreeing with such a claim.
I might be wrong, here is my understanding: both tribes were untied under northern leadership some time after atla. Being one of the heirs, Tonraq assumed leadership and partitioned southern tribe upon the exile.
@@athanasioskosmas3915 Maybe, but there was no point for Korra being there, if he was smart he should’ve had himself and Korra immediately go to the North Pole for “training” and open the other portal while she was ignorant of the occupation.
@@brandonlyon730 Then how would he open the southern portal? That would make sense if him and Korra went to the north pole and then he would lanched the invasion. What youre saying is the same thing but this time Korra isnt on the heart of the events which on this ocassion Unaloq's plan has no effect, unless if he wanted to sent his brother in prison for good. But that would be an overkill
@@athanasioskosmas3915 The southern portal is already open at that point, he probably should've told his men to wait until his own ship left port to do his invasion and Korra would be none the wiser.
Love all the callbacks to Overanalyzing Avatar in this series. The faint song that plays in the background while Korra is Naruto Running is easy to miss but it got me good 😂
First overanalyzing video I'm early to! First seen channel about 4 days ago, watched every OA video as of about 10:30 AM today (6:50 PM now). Hell yeah
So I have my own thoughts on Aang being a "bad" father. While you bring up a lot of good points already - how Aang was a busy man and how he kind of had to focus more on Tenzin for air bending - we also find out in season 3 that Kya finds air nomad history to be very boring. So, just imagine that Aang is taking Tenzin on field trips to the air temples and surely any other places that might hold important air nomad cultural or history lessons for Tenzin to learn. Imagine he offers Kya and Bumi to come along for these lessons, they may not be air benders, but I'm sure he would still want his own children well versed in the culture. However, they (or Kya at the very least) refuse these offers because the trips would be way too boring. So, Aang and Tenzin go alone. Now, Aang still being Aang and all, just can't help himself and MUST make pit stops along the way for fun. Pit stops for fun that Kya and Bumi aren't there for because they didn't want to go. Yeah, it's a shame he didn't make extra trips with the whole family for nothing but the fun adventures, but again he was a very busy man and it may not have even occurred to him how much Kya and Bumi felt left out of it. I wonder if they ever brought it up with him. Anyway, just some head canon there. It is also entirely possible Kya had to stay behind to work on her water bending with her mother, which really means Bumi was probably the most "neglected" of the three cuz, ya know, no bending and all. He probably had an amazing relationship with his Uncle Sokka though. And in the end, despite their squabbles and such, they all do care about each other deeply and can agree that they did have happy times as a family as well.
I do have to say, that I personally like that Korra is not handeling the political side of being the avatar very well. While I do think its done to much and her progress is to slow, I do like that she has issues with it. The first scene is her screaming "IM THE AVATAR" and bending 3 of 4 elements. She wants to be the avatar because of the strength, the power, to fight. She is not someone that like the political side of things, she simply does not have the temper to do so. Its sad that it isn't portraited in a satisfying and good way, but I do think it fits her. Aang for example seemed to prefer the political side of being the avatar. He liked to talk things out and choose violence when it was nesseccary. But I think that Aang was better executed in showing this then Korra.
13:10 I mean, what does she have? A bajillion benders can bend back any water she throws, earth is too far, the floor is raise above the ground. She doesn't want to burn the shit out of her people, and like air? She uses some basic wind puffs, because that's all she really needs.
