overanalyzing that one moment in Daria 

For what it's worth, over the years, I've seen many characters who don't look white, whether biracial or not be portrayed as the most unlikable in the shows. Like Iris West from the flash, Ginny from Ginny and Georgia and Amber from Invincible. On the surface, companies will talk about how diversity is important, yet progressive people will often write minority characters to be unlikable, what are your thoughts on that?

​@@RandomSkyeRosesGood point!

Anyone watched 3 Body Problem on Netflix? The entire series had 2 black women on screen, and they were both older women. Despite the fact they had a black male Fboy character who was sleeping with multiple attractive women, none of them were black.

Yep. And it's intentional. It's part of the demoralization of society, which was admitted by those who program the public via TV in the 70s

right! nowadays it feels more like people are pandering and being performative where as back then it was actual inclusion

Yes. It does feel performative now. Maybe because people are hyperaware of the issue now.

It was by and far the exception though, and not the rule. I think this is just far too small a sample to draw such a conclusion from

I wasn't basing just of Daria. There were a lot more black sitcoms and films in the 90s. you barely see them now @@SirArthurTheGreat

I cried too! & Wow. I can relate. in high school this girl looked me dead in my face and said - “there’s no way Beyoncé can be black, she’s BEAUTIFUL” … and I just recently found out one of my favorite kpop idols referred to Alicia Keys as “pretty for a black” SMDH

@@kythekunoichi ouch , not the emphasis on beautiful . we emanate so much power they try to tear us down and train us in self hatred alllll the way from our childhoods .

im sorry that happened to you

Nicki doesn't have face surgery just bottom body however it is still annoying and sad that it's always a mixed or popular and deemed pretty enough black girl (to their likes, from the only ones they know) to get compared to.

​@@Boohurghhoo nah she had facial surgery too

♥♥♥ thank you

So true. In the nineties especially the black girl representation was nearly always bi racial/light skinned black girls with Europeans features. Very damaging!

People assume it, because even within the black community black people who say all bi-racial people aren’t necessarily black tend to mostly be villainized for saying it, by the “POC” demographic that believe and push the narrative that all groups and cultures that are not Caucasian are black and thus some racial monolith.

That’s a good point!!

Tiffany reminds me of London Tipton in that regard

Oh, that's a really good example :0

I agree although besides not watching Daria or remember watching it (it's good to not have stereotypes and just regular calm rep for evb), I think they've only shown two extremes. Like thinking back between now and then I've always seen the Asian that was spoiled w/ rich parents but always shallow no real nuance depth and ofc stupid asf, like they had their actual usage of braincell moments but they were always shallow and stupid while I was watching. Or those few times, stuck up and smarter than the normal kid studious but also still not that smart or good enough. And then I started to see like here and there (even w/ going back to watch other movies) the Asian wizkid. So basically to me it just was two very stiff stereotypical extremes, even if some of them were my fav characters. Bc why aren't the characters actually more balanced esp w/ getting actual rep? Not too smart, not too dumb it's not that hard or at least it shouldn't be, regular ppl. Anyways, it's good that evb can have rep and at least find something good with those character reps. (I don't necessarily hate the characters but again, when I did see asian rep it was those two basically black n white two opposite extremes that to me overtime was just like eh..this is not balance just cuz..just make a normal person not overtly shallow dumb gfn and not smart and meek or smart and stuck up etc.)

but dumb ditzy asians is another stereotype tho😭

Socialization starts young. Kids are hyper aware and it's important the media they consume is reflective of their phenotype. The doll test wasn't a sham most people INCLUDING Black folks prefer light, bright damn near white. While thankfully I wasn't aware of colorism growing up I'm afraid that I'll be part of the problem if I choose to have a kid. The men that date me are non black, what if I have a kid will I be contributing to the degradation of dark skinned little Black girls? If I have a dark skinned daughter will I instill enough self esteem in her to where she doesn't need to bend it ova for male attention? It may seem like a non-issue but as someone that's hyper aware I know that the world prefers light skin, curly hair and green eyes. And unfortunately we've been burdened with every single choice we make being political 🥹

she actually even apologized when we were talking, in case it "sounded racist." MY HEART. 😢

...and yeah, it was a private parochial school. They were exempt from laws that would keep them from handpicking each student.

yo that entire scene and what followed was hilarious! 🤣

Is this if they are all in their 40s at a high school reunion ? I think Aubrey Plaza could be Daria. Jodie seemed modeled after Brandi when I watched the show back in high school.

❤❤❤ every time a little black girl says she’s ugly an angel loses its wings 🪽

Right - who are these writers??? They’re amazing

Yes totally agree I really hope a revival happens

Hard to believe it spawned from Beavis and Butthead

@@Man-Corgi yeah it is daria is truly one of the best spinoff shows ever never was a fan of that beavis show

​@@Man-Corgi so did King of the Hill, lol, another one of my favorites!

Even I paused after I heard myself say it 🤣

It got me too 😂

​@kythekunoichi nah I'm stealing that. I'm going to start saying I was born in twenty oh three

Yeah I'm not black but i do like do draw black women with all the braids, and i remember just kinda finding it weird as a kid to not see any black characters with them because most of the black people i know have braids It's also fun to just come up with fun styles or just copy ones of people i know/have seen

I remember hearing it on the radio

Right!!!!!!!

I gasped when I saw the two pics together! It'd be great!

I don’t know much about monster high but I know exactly what casting you’re talking about. I’m going to have to research that. Sounds …interesting Thank you!! ❤

And what was also annoying was the response from the fan base who justified the whitewashing and acted like their was zero difference between the actress they chose, and Clawdeen's actual skin color. It's a common thing in animation when darks skinned and Black characters are whitewashed, that people just act like the characters were never dark to begin with. Like Katara and Sokka in the live action Netflix series, Sokka is majority White, and Katara's actress has lighter skin. And when this is acknowledged, people act like Katara and Sokka were never brown and dark skin in the original animated show.

The director of that movie is the same one who made this INCREDIBLY racist movie in his early career, negatively and stereotypically depicting the magical "Redskin" Native as a solution to the white casts problems. The minute I saw that, I knew the MH movie would be a shitshow

It’s a really weird contrast between the G3 show and the live-action movies, in the show she’s a dark-skinned Afro-Latina closer in tone to the original Clawdeen, in the movies she’s light skinned and played by a light skinned biracial girl, it reeks of colourism.

I didn't have much hope for anything monster high related after seeing the voice actress wasnt black. They'd rather hire someone to imitate the voice than get an actual black woman.

Yeah me too daria deserves a revival because I'm si curious to see what happened to the characters

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omg YESSS

thank you for watching! it IS sooo important

Bro Zuri was an awful character. Skai Jackson is beautiful but her role was bratty and definitely annoyed me then and it does even now. I think we need to respect Black introverts and Black people who are chill and aren't yelling all the time. Give them support. Give them kindness. All this murder gunshot stuff and raging about absolutely nothing is draining.

YES! I agree - along with the girl in Percy Jackson. I’m taking notes!

I hope it gets picked back up. I bet the pandemic and strike messed it all up.

Wow. I thought it was gonna be a series tho.

YES SO CRAZY I saw the article an hour before my video premiered!!!

@@maximusprime3459 it was going to be an animated series. They’ve been working on it since 2018 and MTV just let them go this weekk

@@kythekunoichi Thats a shame. Of all the revivals coming out, that one would've been good.

thank you for watching, thank you for you honestly!! (& thank you for this comment!)

@@kythekunoichi Can you explain to me why it seems like my parents are the only black American parents to move to an upper middle class white neighborhood! But has their children spend most of their our time in black neighborhoods during the weekends, holidays and summers? We went to church in black neighborhoods, we spent holidays in black neighborhoods. We went to prom and homecoming at our cousins schools in black neighborhoods, and joined majority black upward bound programs! All these comments and stories on your channel p, even the show Daria suggest that a lot of black girls parents move to upper middle class white suburbs and just isolate then away from black neighborhoods and towns!!!

Yes she is ❤❤❤

I got the same in the 90s as black skater goth and punk rocker. Things were rough for us back then too. 42 now and nobody can tell me who I am, and what I can or can't like or how to be.

I think you should complain about that while changing therapists, he invalidated your experience while taking up for your bullies (which they always do, yt ppl always cover for their own)

Why did you choose to get a white male therapist?? I’m confused at that choice?

@@professorxaviour3649 I didn't choose. He was assigned to me bc that's what the free facility I went to offered me lol

@@jordanguillory7180 so why didn’t you immediately switch or say no to free therapy?.? It’s a white man! There is no reason why you should have sat down with him!!

Yes!! More of us need to be in the writers rooms, in the casting director's chair, and behind the cameras to counter the mess that black girls representation is today. I wish you the best in your career!!

Me too ❤ no one looks out for them and it bothers me so much.

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Yesss!! Exactly. Same 🖤🖤🖤🖤 & thank you!!!

It came up n mines 2.

Not dark enough for you😂??

There are also darkskinned biracials. What is the comment. ​@@chrrycola2717

allison is white in the comics

This happens in tons of comic book adaptations, but wasn't Allison white in the comics?

allison isnt black in the comics, but the writer did introduce a new character in hotel oblivion who seems like shes gonna be taking a bigger part in the next run (qhenever that happens) whose a black woman! that might be who youre thinking of

Definitely intentional, a one off is an accident, this is a PATTERN, and a disturbing one at that.

Reminds me of ppl speaking on the purposeful always biracial in an add even with two black parents out of nowhere she's biracial like it's the new black (I mean they made it so atp but like ew we have enough problems just cast brownskin and darkskins unambiguously).

❤️❤️❤️❤️ thank you! im honestly so sensitive to this stuff. I struggled to finish Queen Charlotte because of this. there’s so much sneak dissing that goes on right in our faces.

Idk but after bridgerton I'm starting to feel like Shonda Rhimes actually secretly hates us. Why does she constantly do us like this??? (I'm including scandal and other projects by her where black women get the short end of the stick because Olivia's and Analises's portrayal and treatment is honestly problematic too)

@@kimberleywilliams7802 I think this every time i witness one of her projects. is it self hate? or is she just tryna get a check?

What’s crazy is one hour before my video premiered I found an article from earlier this week announcing the official cancellation of the spin off. So nah, I don’t think it’s happening right now either

I hate invincible for how they treated that poor girl. That and I side eye Steven Yeun ever since that drama with his the Beef costar and his support of that awful man.

This is also true, but it's not like they consult the communities they use to paint over an old character's identity, yet the backlash is faced by the group who didnt ask for a lazy hand-me-down character. Oftentimes, the angry audience, upset over the character change, has more vitriol for the people from the racial group the company decided to paint over the character with than the ACTUAL company itself. Case in point, the horribly racist Little Mermaid memes that specifically attacked Black girls, and not...Disney itself!

@@tonyt1680you're so right!

thank you!! i appreciate it tons

Thank you so much! Im so happy my videos are finally reaching who they’re meant for and people who also appreciate the conversation. I try not to let the algorithm get me down because I love this hobby regardless - but I’m so happy this video in particular was seen! & Omg I was going to reference the Woman King 😂🙄 I totally agree - One thing I wish I spoke more on was how feminine Jodie’s image is created to be and why that’s such a big deal.

Yes!! For us, feminine representation has become 'revolutionary', sadly😅 I really need to see a timeline of Blk female representation, I'm personally a 90's girl, so I literally saw the shift in black women representation in mainstream media go from the token black gal pal trope (fairly typical in appearance, feminine like all the other girl characters, but sidekick to a white female lead with no real life of her own), and morph into this strange masculine strong sjw warrior type of image over the years; this coinciding with black women finally getting roles that place us center stage. And of course the ever present 'mammy', 'sapphire' and 'jezebel' stereotypes were and are in many ways still prevalent too. But I digress. Thank you for making this channel and thoughtful video! Thank you for putting into words what a lot of us are feeling right now in such a poignant, intellectual way. And simultaneously breaking down one of my fav animated shows to boot! Imma make sure to share this video with my friends. Whatever direction you take this channel, I don't care. I'll be happy to watch gaming, video essays, show reviews (I saw that you like anime too??🥰) or you just shooting the breeze. I hope you keep doing what you're doing. I'm ecstatic to have found you and can't wait to see what you do next!❤✨

I was just abt to ask what's wrong w/ the African warrior but looking at it that way nvm got it😅 just give us someone good n regular gosh no bs😭😭💚

OMG when i saw ENCANTO I was PISSED they put Tiana’s hair in that raggedy bun when clearly she could’ve had a twist out!!

I loved Tiana! But they did us so dirty making her a damn frog for the majority of the film, and don't get me started on all the rest. But despite the mess, Tiana is still one of my favorite Disney girls, up there with Mulan, Esmeralda, and Megara❤

​@@tonyt1680I feel like she's the one that should actually get "shut up meg" treatment too bc not herr (that is hercules, yes?). And besides the frog thing bc it had my mind doing backflips when I was younger (she was human again and I wanted her to turn into an animal again bc it was so weird atp seeing her human), I wanted a better color palette for her (that type of green n yellow for blk women I have beef w/, or the ashy pink in campaigns always only on darkskins never no other color), and I hate how they didn't want to lean in on "cultural racial history" yet did but didnt..mims, in 1920s Nola no less.

thank you! if thats what you guys want I definitely will!

❤❤❤ thank you! Yeah I was nervous posting because I didn’t want to be misinterpreted or have my message misconstrued. But I think it’s important to have these conversations, especially because it’s not coming from a malicious place. Just very honest.

@@kythekunoichi Right! I'm sorry you felt nervous - I felt nervous commenting too! But you're right that it's important. For me it's very interesting culturally, because my heritage is specifically Caribbean British, which seems to be pretty different to the African American experience from what I've observed! Not super related to the video, but if you're curious - where I live, I've found that Black girls here are more likely claim and include me in the community whilst simultaneously understanding that our lives and experiences are different in ways. This country has had an ugly history of segregation, but the US has been immeasurably more severe about it, and I wonder if that's a factor that means African American women and girls have to more strongly distinguish themselves from us 🤔When I was younger I didn't really understand why I seemed to be accepted by my family's community in person but rejected online, but as I get older I find the cultural differences really interesting. Knowing that it's fraught and complicated, I really appreciate hearing perspectives like yours, so I can know best how to be respectful and not overstep. I hope one day the similarities between the experiences of monoracial and multiracial black women will make us stronger together, but that can't happen - especially in your country - while the media continues to pit us against each other and drive us apart. And yes, us mixed girlies are really lacking here - we NEED to not accept roles in media that don't belong to us! Thanks for having this discussion with me 🌸

yaaaayyy!! thank youj for watching!

Where do you watch it from?

Same, it's just the mood these days XD They have it on Hulu and Pluto TV, I think

I watch it on prime with my cousin's Paramount+ subscription, but its free with Pluto and like 2 bucks on a whole lot of other sites! @@ceciliecerise

It's such a chill watch. So many shows just stress me out, but Daria is so enjoyable for me to watch.@@TheYoungKilljoy

awwwwwww!!! i feel the same way when I cosplay! i have a youtube short of black girl cosplayers from Momocon last year and i love it! such great representation!

😂😂😂😂😂 thank you for watching!!

thank you!! lol dont worry, i know what you mean

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thank you! and you're right !!!

It got cancelled today 😔

I found out it was canceled an hour before my video premiered 💔

Bruh 😢

Wait? Why are people hating on Tiana??

Or we make a crowd funded project and get it out first

thank you!!!!

I knoooooow I teared up every time I had to rewatch it while editing. Her little sad face right before she cried broke my heart - this is why I personally give my niece wheelbarrels of reassurance and encouragement

good point!!